Post: #1

Game vs corporate system

In general in all activities there is a big system governing them and their consequences.For example in a company environment you are just another unit or wheel in the system.

Now with pick up the system is a social one and has certain goals.What are these goals?Probably marriage etc.So we gamers come and cheat the system.Our role is productive,useful or not?This determines more or less other peoples attitude.Are we the speculators,the brokers the pioneer enterpreneurs or are we some kind of thieves,low lives exploiting vacuums in society?

In what way do we improve sth as a whole?Or our role is just entertaining and sucking energy out?

Game in my opinion is the revolution where the small picture and speed takes over the big picture and stalemate.

Post: #2

I think that guys like us (not the regular PUA guys) are helping to change the dating system a lil bit in favor of men.

Each time you give a bitch "The Roosh Forum treatment" and don't accept their bitchy attitude and crazy demandings you are probably helping the next man that will deal with her.

however, because there are so few of us that are really compromised with this lifestyle , the big picture will remain in favor of women (thanks to white knights and beta orbiters) for a long time.

Post: #3

Greek kamaki, I think everybody can be usefull. At least as a bad example.

The problem is when you will be seen as a not usefull part of the system.

Anyway many good things can be said about players. They are practical psychologist who generate new knowledge about human psychology.

Post: #4

(02-22-2012 06:06 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  What are these goals? Probably marriage etc.

Depends on the person, but I think a real common goal is to
- fuck lots and lots of lizards and then settle with a dime

or

- fuck a new bitch every night

or

- build up a soft harem/rotation, and be able to easily replace the chicks that fall out of the harem.

Everyonce in a while, you meet a dude in the game who wants to understand human dynamics and relationships and parlay that knowledge of what makes people tick into money and power, where girls are no longer the end goal, but just a nice feature of a life well lived.

(02-22-2012 06:06 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  So we gamers come and cheat the system.Our role is productive,useful or not?

In America?

We are the 300 at Thermopylae, the last set of men trying to hold back the hordes from destroying our civilization. Although we will most certainly fail, perhaps our sons and countrymen will realize what's going on.

We are productive. It's not as if pussy/sex is a depleting resource, it's ever abundant. If we can spread our knowledge throughout the realm, 70 year old dudes can have 3 somes with 40 year olds, with all parties being happy about it.

(02-22-2012 06:06 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  This determines more or less other peoples attitude.Are we the speculators,the brokers the pioneer enterpreneurs or are we some kind of thieves,low lives exploiting vacuums in society?

All the best business men are those who take calculated risks that are heavily in their favor. They bet big on rigged games. There's nothing left to chance. There's no luck involved.

That's what we do. We know the lay of the land, the defenses of women, and the right set of tools to break through their shields.

If learning how to twirl a girl in public and then fuck her in the ass 4 hours later is wrong...I don't wanna be right. I've yet to meet a chick that didn't enjoy getting pounded out, taking a facial, or swallowing some loads. It's in their nature. Within every chick is a raging porn star, and not no Jenna Haze or Amy Reid, but a disgusting Ava Devine or Annette Schwarz.

(02-22-2012 06:06 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  In what way do we improve sth as a whole?Or our role is just entertaining and sucking energy out?

I think we bring joy to those who are joyless, the women we fuck and the men we attract to our cause.

WIA.

Post: #5

Nicely put WestIndianArchie

Preach on ..........

Post: #6

Let's imagine pick up as a corporate ladder.In this way we should have one guy who opens the girl and gets most of the shit and the rejections then one who comes as trailer and executes the smooth talking the maneuvers answers the shit tests then one who does the isolation and escalates and at the end one who comes as a fucker.In this way everyone would be maximum specialized for his job however most would be jealous of the fucker since he would rip the most benefits.(the first one would just rip some congratulations for his success).

So in this way since in pick up all work scut work and specialized one is done by the same person it has an antisocial character in my opinion.Actually when many persons in group perform pick up a hierarchy is formed where some guys serve as openers,some as sponsors,some provide house,some provide car and some do the most fucking actually the ones who can control the others.This way makes pick up more socially acceptable.It is like you fuck a girl without having the social consent to do so.For example one would say why does Greek kamaki this shitty person fuck so many girls and Jo nice noone?This is not fair.Really if there was regulation and laws I should do some work for Jo nice to fuck as well.(or merely offering my ass).Anyway these are some thoughts but really behind the disdain of most people against pick up etc is this logic that is why in long term it can be disastrous.

Post: #7

(02-22-2012 08:15 AM)Mr.GM Wrote:  I think that guys like us (not the regular PUA guys) are helping to change the dating system a lil bit in favor of men.

Each time you give a bitch "The Roosh Forum treatment" and don't accept their bitchy attitude and crazy demandings you are probably helping the next man that will deal with her.

however, because there are so few of us that are really compromised with this lifestyle , the big picture will remain in favor of women (thanks to white knights and beta orbiters) for a long time.

I don't really think of it as men vs women so much as there are wolves and there are sheep. There are people who get what they want, and people who don't, both men and women.

Post: #8

Game is kind of like the corporate system.

In normal dating, everything is orderly, structured, and fairly senseless. Excessive formalities and lots of flowery language. We're like the guys who just pulled a massive short on Enron, or shorted housing in '07. Game is sexually profiting off of the collapse of proper male-female relations.