Hey I just joined this forum and I think it's off the chain! I so wish I had stumbled upon this forum way before. I was looking for stuff like this for a long time and I'm so glad I finally found it. Great thanks to Roosh for the input and all the rest too. I'm traveling to South America this summer but I can't decide where exactly would be the best. I was hoping you guys could give me some insight about the best places to get laid and have fun. I love traveling and am totally into beautiful Spanish women but first let me tell ya all a little about myself. I'm from Florida and currently working a 9-5 and manage going to college full-time. And you know what? My life sucks right now. I so wish I'd be traveling somewhere abroad banging beautiful girls, chilling with the locals, and just enjoying life to the fullest. I know that what I'm doing right now is the right thing, but the thing is, it's just not making be happy right now. And it's all supposed to be about being happy right? Well it's not. I was just out in a club this weekend to destress and get some action but I didn't get anything and I got pissed and I told myself that's it. I'm quiting my job this summer and taking a semester or more off and traveling to South America. I want to go to a place where girls will wanna get in bed with me for the simple reason that I'm a gringo from a rich country and that's it. I'm tired of American women. They're soooo feministic, stuck up and money-oriented. The "what do you do" game is so true. If you're not driving a good car or living in a cool place forget about it. Latin girls on the other hand are at least more warm and affectionate. I've been dating some Spanish women and they're more what I like. But I hear the real gems are waiting are down south. That's why I was hoping for some advice.

What are the most affordable places to rent a budget apartment? I'm not rich at all and since I am willing to stay there for a longer period of time, I am looking to sacrifice my quality of life and stay in cheaper places like rented rooms or affordable apartments. I am thinking of staying in a place say a month and then maybe moving on. What's my best bet?

I know that girls from certain countries are attracted more to guys of certain races. Like a country with more dark skinned girls would favor white guys and viceversa. Well I'm caucasian, green eyes, blonde hair, looking to learn fluent Spanish or Portuguese by this summer. I'm originally from Eastern Europe and lived there most of my life. I have dual citizenship (EU and American) and was just wondering, since I can speak with a pure American accent as well as a thick Eastern European one (pretty much like Russian), and also an Irish one after living there for a bit, I'm thinking what's my best bet? Is the whole anti-American thing big in South America? I read somewhere that Spanish chicks are more into European guys since there's way more American guys over there. Is it gone be better for me to act European and speaking with my Eastern Europe accent or American one? Just curious you know.


That would be it for right now. I hear that Brazil, Argentina and Colombia seem pretty hot. I am willing to learn either Spanish or Portuguese so I can increase my chances of getting laid. Basically that's all I want just rent a room or an apartment for a longer perion in a city and look for some action. So the big question. What would be the top 3 countries in Central and South America to live in considering my circumstances? Affordable, easiness of getting laid, and beautiful girls. Any insight will be greatly appreciated.

Welcome to the gig.

"I want to go to a place where girls will wanna get in bed with me for the simple reason that I'm a gringo from a rich country and that's it."

You have the right idea, but this place doesn't exist. Roosh has written on this and I think there are a few threads on this subject as well.

Latina girls can be much more difficult than american girls. But the rewards are greater. That is why I think most people on here like rolling to Latin countries. It's not the ease factor.

As far as your question. Bust Buenos Aires.

I think Medellin, Colombia is your best bet. It's affordable, the girls are very pretty, and they like blonde guys. Argentina is a good choice but the girls are more challenging and you mentioned wanting to bang a lot.

(01-25-2010 01:32 AM)chrisss Wrote:  I want to go to a place where girls will wanna get in bed with me for the simple reason that I'm a gringo from a rich country and that's it.

So you are looking to repeat the number one single most common mistake that guys make when travelling and trying to get laid?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

3 most common and biggest mistakes BTW are

1. Thinking women are going to throw themselves at your feet because you have blessed their poor country with your presence (aint gonna happen)
2. Not learning the lingo.
3. Not adjusting your game for the culture of the country you are in.

If you want to get laid.

1. Learn Spanish.
2. Learn game.
2. Get to know and appreciate the culture of the country you are in and re-calibrate your game accordingly.

The only women that are going to be interested in you because of your passport are .... well, hookers. I mean ask yourself. If she in interested in hooking up with you on the promise of a way out of there and gaining a foreign nationality then that just another form of payment isn't it?

And a payment far more expensive than the $12 it would cost you to just pay for a hooker.

"I want to go to a place where girls will wanna get in bed with me for the simple reason that I'm a gringo..."



Try Copacabana beach.

I agree with lumiere 10000000% - well said! And very accurate! Follow his cookbook instructions, and unless you are Daddy Yankee or some sort of famous Salsa singer like Marc Anthony - women will NOT throw themselves at you by you standing against the wall ata club, or just walking down teh street or sitting at a cafe - not happening!

Regular women of course - hookers will throw themselves at anyone with americna passport - incluidng another latino like me!

PS the two countries that require the greatest amount of game re-calibration in south america are colombia and argentina

argentinian girls are not as difficult as some on here would lead you to believe but it can appear that way if you dont know how to re-adjust your game

Lumiere,

Good comment above.

Also, "PS the two countries that require the greatest amount of game re-calibration in south america are colombia and argentina"

What would you say are the least?

What's so funny about what I wrote? I think being a white caucasian from a more richer country is quite an asset when hooking up in South America. So you're saying we don't have a good advantage against local guys over there? I never said anything about expecting girls to throw at me just because of the fact. Cmon now bro this is a player's forum it's quite obvious you have to put your share of effort in. Having that said now, isn't it way easier with that over there? Like I said about how certain exotic people are more attracted in certain places. In my case it's different skin color and having more $ than the local guys. I've never been there, but my from my logic it would appear as so. I mean I've been going out with native Brazilian girls here in Florida. I'm talking about one night stands and long-term dating and they've all been exceptionally easy to get laid with in comparison to other girls. I don't believe you saying that it's harder to get laid there. I'm not interested in hookers. Not the same fun. Talking about re-calibrating my game, say a little more about that? You mean pursuing girls there in the gringo style, not as aggressive as the native locals?

Thanks for the replies I'm gone read up on Medellin and Buenos Aires. Just a little worried about the crime statistics in the prior and about the peculiar girls in the latter.

I was thinking about the nationality issue. When you think about it, that might be a huge factor, no? Am I better off with the European origin? Don't they like hate America over there? Especially in Venezuela or Argentina? I don't want to be stereotyped and risk any anti-American hatred issues so I guess I'm gone go with the Irish accent. Would seem more of a rarity I guess.

"What's so funny about what I wrote?"

Nothing. There are no lame questions on this forum. (Well, almost none).

"Having that said now, isn't it way easier with that over there?"

No. America is the easiest. For many reasons.

"Like I said about how certain exotic people are more attracted in certain places. In my case it's different skin color and having more $ than the local guys."

You are not going to be the first white guy they have ever seen. Playboys have been going to south america for the last 100 years. Especially in the big cities.

As far as the money issue, I have no idea how much scratch you have, but generally speaking, no it wont help that much. Possibly with very poor girls. Upper class girls? No.

For instance, if you are competing with the son of a mining conglomerate, or son of a latin american general, nouveau riche americans hardly impress.

An american "superiority complex" will get you into trouble. In more ways than one.

"Am I better off with the European origin? Don't they like hate America over there?"

People hate "dumb americans". People do not hate cool individuals from america.

There are numerous places that would fit your criteria, but they are all going to have a little more crime than you may be used to (Colombia, Costa Rica, Peru, Panama all from my personal experience).

Also, Im pretty sure you would have a much better time in what ever country you choose if you re-evaluate your reasons for going.

If one is going down there expecting women to go CRAZY for them just because he looked at her...he will be sorely heart broken. Women are attracted to the same things everywhere, with some small adjustments for culture. Will your "Americaness" give you some status? Yes, possibly, but that really depends on the way you carry yourself.

Being from the U.S. usually accentuates Latinos perceptions of a person when they hit Latin America. If a guy is kind of cool in the States, he is often considered very cool in Latin America.

If an American guy is considered kind of a slob or kind of dorky in the States, he often will be considered a complete loser in Latin America.

Of course money is a whole other issue altogether, but using it to attract women will attract the wrong ones, for the wrong reasons.

So basicly...when you come down there...come correct.

Agree. Well Put G! I have swooped girls away from gringos, local Latino men, and even men with obvious more $$$ than I was wiing to show.

Your game, dance skills and personality will get you pussy. Now, if you look like Brad Pitt or George Clooney, or Collin Farrell - and have similar fame and status, yeah, you will have to beat Latin women off you with a bat! Otherwise, don't sleep on anyone. You snooze, you lose and BIG!

(01-25-2010 07:29 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Lumiere,

Good comment above.

Also, "PS the two countries that require the greatest amount of game re-calibration in south america are colombia and argentina"

What would you say are the least?

Probably peru and chile and, if you speak good portuguese, brazil

More on the money thing I alluded to here:

"For instance, if you are competing with the son of a mining conglomerate, or son of a latin american general, nouveau riche americans hardly impress."

In many foreign cultures, money is not as important as class and status.

For instance, if you are a internet Multi-millionaire, but you dress and act the fool, don't expect to impress someone from a French family that has had money for 600 years and three castles. Even if you have way more money than them.

And don't think you are going to impress a daughter from a latin political family just because you have a 5 bedroom on the wessyde of LA and a maybach.

I know a cat from a hugely wealthy family in usa that got completely schooled in Monte Carlo because he was being a classless american. And I mean schooled. Like your worst nightmares type schooled.

Don't walk into foreign cultures thinking you "own it". Because bottom line, you don't.

Always show respect.

It will be better for you, and better for the rest of us.

Kinda fortuitous to find this thread, I was about to ask the same question as the original poster. However, I do know Spanish and don't expect paradise whereby woman are jumping into bed with me--I plan to put in the work. With that said, one of my main goals is to get as many notices as possible (isn't always?). For that reason and with much hesitation I crossed of Cordoba and am left with Rio and Medellin. I feel with Medellin I can really use my Spanish and make my dollar stretch and maybe spend some extra time and have better quality arrangements. With Rio, I hear the girls are easier, maybe hotter depending on taste and well it's Rio. So what do you guys think?

The calibration issue is also interesting to me. Does Medellin require more re-calibration than Rio to have better game in said city. And if so is there any benefit coming back to the States? I know Roosh has said that the Colombian chicks are notorious flakes, so my question is well that help my game in the long run?

p.s. I'm planning on at least a month with a roll of 5-10k.

Quote: I think being a white caucasian from a more richer country is quite an asset when hooking up in South America

I'd say it's a minor advantage.

Thanks for all your comments. Appreciated. I thought I'd give you guys some update on my situation. I'm leaving my job and taking a break from school this August and heading out to South America with a one-way ticket intending to live in and visit a few countries for say maybe half a year or even a year tops. As of the moment, Colombia appears as my number one destination, followed by Venezuela and Ecuador. Spirit Airlines has a 170$ deal with all taxes to Bogota for beginning of August, sweet ain't it? I read a lot good stuff about Colombian girls and I think I'd dig them. If I'd knew the language I'd definitely go for Brazil, but since learning Spanish is more beneficial for my future here in Florida, I'm skipping Brazil and I'm going with serious Spanish learning. Just bought a book and got through a few lessons. It's coming there, keeping it patient but I'm seeing some progress. Turns out Spanish has very similar grammar with my native language which is making the whole process even easier. Yeah and I figured I'm gone play my Eastern European card since there ain't too many of us out there. I was thinking of renting an apartment or a room in a medium-sized city by the Carribean as I love water activities but not too touristy like Cartagena though. Any advice on Baranquilla or Santa Marta? Any college girls out there? Yeah speaking of college don't they have like a summer break from school in August? I guess I have a lot of homework to do. I was thinking about Ecuador as well but turns out there's a lot of Mestizo girls down there and I'm not really into them. I heard there's good Spanish classes deals in Ecuador starting from like 5$ an hour. I'd definitely use a lot of those. How's Venezuela? I'll be trying to avoid looking as a gringo looking for sex. Any tips on that? Would it be better saying that I'm there for college or some kind of a volunteer work?

Another thing I was wondering about. Safety issues. Particularly reactions from local guys. Coming from an unfortunately not too open-minded Eastern European country in regard to foreign guys trying to hook up with local girls, I've seen a lot of bad shit when foreign guys did not know how to play it cool in front of the local guys. They acted too cocky and were trying to show off their gaming skills in front of the local guys. In countries like Eastern Europe where there's a mafia-wannabe attitude from a lotta guys, you gotta play it cool and be aware of your surroundings. Watch out for steroid skinheads or drunk dudes who will try to fight you just because you're different and you're hitting on a girl one of them might be interested in. One of the reasons they like to fight a lot is because law is very docile with battery so they feel fearless. So having all that said, how do you go about playing it cool and hitting on Latin chicks in their country? Should you mind the guys in the clubs? Watch out for any specific reactions?

(01-25-2010 08:45 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  I know a cat from a hugely wealthy family in usa that got completely schooled in Monte Carlo because he was being a classless american. And I mean schooled. Like your worst nightmares type schooled.

I would love to hear more of this story... It sounds super entertaining...

Do tell, G...

On safety.

I think the basics of safety are pretty obvious.

First. Don't go anywhere that you really don't belong. If a neighborhood is bad for a local, you have no business being there. Research and find out where the safe places are. And party with the middle and upper class. You'll find they are less eager to get into fights and that the places that are very popular, they all go to them anyways. Comparatively speaking, drinks are cheap so going to a classy venue with security that might be good. Also hot girls that can afford it or have friends that help them a bit, they go to the nice places anyways. If you want to go to a meth-head hangout to pick up some putas, well, you're asking for it.

Second. I found that I had a lot of success when I ignored the girls and talked to the guys. And let me tell you this, mi espanol es muy terrible. I suck at Spanish. I took it only at the Jr. High level and ignored it in favor of Japanese. But while waiting in line at a club and going solo, I talked to a dude there and we worked with his terrible English and my terrible Spanish and were even able to joke about a few things. I told him my friend was supposed to arrive at a certain time and I was alone until he got there-- but that I didn't have a phone and that the guy could be unreliable. I bought him a Corona ($2.50) and we chatted for awhile, his girl and guy friends arrived. He introduced me and I chatted up the dudes more than the girls, they were pretty amused. After awhile they went to dance and motioned for me to follow, I joined and didn't make any moves on the girls and just talked to the guys and enjoyed the scene. They then bought a bottle of Aguardiente and offered me drinks, wouldn't let me put in any money, and we got closer, were high fiving, usually signs of friendship. By this point they revealed that they knew more English than they had let on and that I was a cool guy. We talked and at this point the girls were like, who the hell is this suave bastard that our overprotective male friends are totally cool with. My non verbal game was fantastic and we didn't even really need to talk.

The women were very intrigued. But more importantly, later that night, when I was dancing with a girl, this Colombian local, who looks way better than me, tried to swoop on the girl, and was hostile when I made some light jokes. Immediately, my new dudes circle the wagons and basically tell the dude to fuck off. I spent the rest of the night with those guys and their girls. I kiss closed one who was really cute. Not hot as balls, but really cute. And I got her number. But not just her number, I got all of the dudes emails.

Long story short: don't come into the bar like some sort of slinky thief that's come to play prince charming and be a gringo. Come in as a man who connects with the community, who cares about more than stealing local girls, and who genuinely wants to have fun without being some sort of fuck count builder. The next night I went out with one of them to a new club with new guys and new girls. All were suspicious at the beginning, but I ran a repeat. First thing I do, I shake hands, introduce, and then joke around. If I see one of them eying a girl I try to set them up, if they're dancing a bit far apart, I jokingly bring them closer, then leave.

I found a girl I liked. Balls hot. Funny. A bit overconfident and a bit standoffish. Bitch shield, yeah, she had it up full force. Three hours later, in a thick Colombian accent, in English, one of my new friends says to me "She, she is crazy about joo."

We kissed and felt each other up in the car ride to a taco stand. I get all their contact info. I hit up the girls for information on music, and go to an outing the next day with the guys-- that outing is to a sports bar to watch the Superbowl. That outing was today, and I won a 10,000 peso bet on the Saints and we all had buffalo wings together.

When I come back my safety will not be an issue, one of the eight dudes I met will have my back. One of the many girls I met will help me do something. Safety is something a country mostly provides to actual members of its society and safety is increased when the number of people that want to protect you is high and the number of people that despise you is low. Work on this number and don't go into areas where you can't change it. Find out where you're safe or where you can make friends.

Caveat, I am 24. This does mean they are less likely to perceive me as out of my element. If you want to try bar and club gaming, it may be much harder. Granted the group I was with, the girls were mid 20s, the guys early 30s. Beyond 40, I'd adjust the game.

Third, money. Be smart with it, minimize the amount on you at all times to what you need. Watch the bar staff-- try to pay in near exact change. They'll scam you. Bring a pocket calculator, have them put the number out where you can see it. Numbers need no translations. I carry a dummy wallet, it's my old fake Prada wallet I got in Hong Kong. I keep enough money for a cab in my sock. I don't let cab drivers scam me. They use the meter and they give me change, once I get full change or close enough, they get their tip. On my way back from the Superbowl today, the cab driver said that he did not have change. Bullshit. He was trying to get double the cab fare by claiming he didn't have change. The difference was $2.50 out of $5.00 but I was not about to let him scam me. I told him that it's his job to have change and to take me to a nearby hotel ( a block away), free, and that I would get change for him. Did it and the guy left. Don't let your fear of being somewhere new interfere with your basic self-assertion on slimeballs that really pose no threat.

But be able to tell the difference between a racist scumbag cabbie and a potentially violent unconnected random. Don't even be alone with the second let alone get in any transactions with them.

Fourth, awareness. Don't get fucking wasted. Don't be hustled. Watch your drinks. Read peoples expressions. If things start to take a turn towards hostility, try to see it before it happens. I knew that the guy at that first club was pretty pissed, he must have wanted her earlier, it had escalation potential and the guy was built as fuck-- same time, this club has security. But we all know that getting into a pointless bar fight can really kill game and paint you as the aggressor rather than the victim. And the management doesn't like it. So be aware and avoid getting yourself into trouble.

Among all of these, I'd say the most important thing is Research followed by Awareness, which allows you to read if you can Befriend others, and is aided by smart Money management.

I feel 100% safe because I know that I am partying in really nice neighborhoods. The girls of la Zona Rosa and Poblado, they come here to party because it is nice. If this is not your country, research it like fuck.

My answer would be: Go to Colombia first. I love this place and these people, because I have successfully avoided the bad people that are most certainly somewhere in this town.

If someone asks you, why are you in Colombia: "Aventura".
If someone asks you, what you want: "El mundo".
If you need to elaborate, you're there for business. In fact, I would encourage people to build up a business relationship with the places you go to, because then when you say it, you can prove it, you'll network through business, and you can turn a profit if you're smart about buying. I'm a kid with not nearly enough cash for that. But I did well. If I had more time here, I'd get both of these girls to cook me dinner and I would take them out to nice places and enjoy the finer things. For now, I'm happy with creating the environment for future success here, enjoying my wonderful time in this gorgeous country, making lasting friendships, and kissing hot girls who are classier than diving into the arms of some first world savior. I'm also happy that my day2 with one went very well.

If I had strong command of Spanish, I would most certainly have been laid by both those girls.

But only one in 5 days isn't bad for a gringo.

Coming from someone who has also been there (Panama City, San Jose, Lima and Cartagena) and done that (hung out with cool guys and sexed hot chicks):

Mirrored is telling it straight about the proper way to get down in Latin America.

Good advice.