Post: #51

I will never live permanently outside of Europe, for me nothing on this planet compares to Eastern European women. And Europe has the highest standard of living in the world

Post: #52

(09-26-2012 05:07 PM)EPMD Wrote:  I will never live permanently outside of Europe, for me nothing on this planet compares to Eastern European women. And Europe has the highest standard of living in the world

I agree my friend they are probably the best. But wait until you are 45 or 50. Then you might look at SE Asia and South America as a better alternative.

Post: #53

(09-26-2012 05:27 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(09-26-2012 05:07 PM)EPMD Wrote:  I will never live permanently outside of Europe, for me nothing on this planet compares to Eastern European women. And Europe has the highest standard of living in the world

I agree my friend they are probably the best. But wait until you are 45 or 50. Then you might look at SE Asia and South America as a better alternative.

Have you been to Ukraine/Russia?

Older guys are clearing up in Ukraine, i've seen so many older guys with beautiful young girls. I sometimes have to stop in the street and stare, I cannot believe it sometimes.

Post: #54

(09-26-2012 05:07 PM)EPMD Wrote:  I will never live permanently outside of Europe, for me nothing on this planet compares to Eastern European women. And Europe has the highest standard of living in the world

What part of Europe has the highest standard in the world?

Post: #55

Quote:Older guys are clearing up in Ukraine, i've seen so many older guys with beautiful young girls.

Do you know why? Do you know what they have to give in return for "cleaning up"?

Post: #56

(09-26-2012 09:23 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:Older guys are clearing up in Ukraine, i've seen so many older guys with beautiful young girls.

Do you know why? Do you know what they have to give in return for "cleaning up"?

No what do they give up? Money to buy her nice clothes, meals, things she can't afford on her own? Or is there more to it?

Post: #57

Yeah, they're sponsors. She's not going out with him for his game, that's for sure. Kamaki does a short-term version of this for one sex act, while the old guys provide continuous "gifts".

Post: #58

You have no idea what the older guys spend in Ukraine.Many of them spend over 500 euro per day(banging whores and visiting strip clubs as well).An amount of them can easily spend 4000 euro for a week in Kiev.

Post: #59

I'm an older guy, and I definitely did NOT "clean up" in Ukraine post 50 YO. But at least I have a CHANCE there without big wealth because of my willingness and ability to LOVE.

Also I am extraordinarily talented. I had hot chicks working on my creative projects for free. They actually squealed when they saw finished works. Blase Americans would NEVER debase themselves thus for.. a REALLY OLD guy-- unless he was FAMOUS. Like on TV.

It has to be like on TV.

Post: #60

(09-26-2012 09:23 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:Older guys are clearing up in Ukraine, i've seen so many older guys with beautiful young girls.

Do you know why? Do you know what they have to give in return for "cleaning up"?

Not as much as you might think, depending on the city. There's no place on earth that fat old guys can screw young pretty girls with just their sense of humor and charisma.

When you get a wife you're paying for her so what's the diff?.

Post: #61

(09-27-2012 01:46 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  I'm an older guy, and I definitely did NOT "clean up" in Ukraine post 50 YO. But at least I have a CHANCE there without big wealth because of my willingness and ability to LOVE.

Also I am extraordinarily talented. I had hot chicks working on my creative projects for free. They actually squealed when they saw finished works. Blase Americans would NEVER debase themselves thus for.. a REALLY OLD guy-- unless he was FAMOUS. Like on TV.

It has to be like on TV.

You will need money for these young girls (under 25)

I don't advocate spending money on chicks for them to fuck you, but this is the way it is. If you're lucky then you will find a nice girl who is just happy with a nice apartment, 200 euros a week spending money, etc.

No twenty year old girl will sleep with a 50+ guy without sponsorship. Accept that's the way it is or find a woman 35+

Post: #62

(09-27-2012 02:37 AM)EPMD Wrote:  

(09-27-2012 01:46 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  I'm an older guy, and I definitely did NOT "clean up" in Ukraine post 50 YO. But at least I have a CHANCE there without big wealth because of my willingness and ability to LOVE.

Also I am extraordinarily talented. I had hot chicks working on my creative projects for free. They actually squealed when they saw finished works. Blase Americans would NEVER debase themselves thus for.. a REALLY OLD guy-- unless he was FAMOUS. Like on TV.

It has to be like on TV.

You will need money for these young girls (under 25)

I don't advocate spending money on chicks for them to fuck you, but this is the way it is. If you're lucky then you will find a nice girl who is just happy with a nice apartment, 200 euros a week spending money, etc.

No twenty year old girl will sleep with a 50+ guy without sponsorship. Accept that's the way it is or find a woman 35+

May well be true in 99% of cases.
And you know this because.. you're from Ukraine?.. you spent <how much> time there..?

And you are <how old>?

Post: #63

(09-27-2012 02:37 AM)EPMD Wrote:  

(09-27-2012 01:46 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  I'm an older guy, and I definitely did NOT "clean up" in Ukraine post 50 YO. But at least I have a CHANCE there without big wealth because of my willingness and ability to LOVE.

Also I am extraordinarily talented. I had hot chicks working on my creative projects for free. They actually squealed when they saw finished works. Blase Americans would NEVER debase themselves thus for.. a REALLY OLD guy-- unless he was FAMOUS. Like on TV.

It has to be like on TV.

You will need money for these young girls (under 25)

I don't advocate spending money on chicks for them to fuck you, but this is the way it is. If you're lucky then you will find a nice girl who is just happy with a nice apartment, 200 euros a week spending money, etc.

No twenty year old girl will sleep with a 50+ guy without sponsorship. Accept that's the way it is or find a woman 35+

May well be true in 99% of cases.
And you know this because.. you're from Ukraine?.. you spent <how much> time there..?

And you are <how old>?

Post: #64

(09-27-2012 02:59 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(09-27-2012 02:37 AM)EPMD Wrote:  

(09-27-2012 01:46 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  I'm an older guy, and I definitely did NOT "clean up" in Ukraine post 50 YO. But at least I have a CHANCE there without big wealth because of my willingness and ability to LOVE.

Also I am extraordinarily talented. I had hot chicks working on my creative projects for free. They actually squealed when they saw finished works. Blase Americans would NEVER debase themselves thus for.. a REALLY OLD guy-- unless he was FAMOUS. Like on TV.

It has to be like on TV.

You will need money for these young girls (under 25)

I don't advocate spending money on chicks for them to fuck you, but this is the way it is. If you're lucky then you will find a nice girl who is just happy with a nice apartment, 200 euros a week spending money, etc.

No twenty year old girl will sleep with a 50+ guy without sponsorship. Accept that's the way it is or find a woman 35+

May well be true in 99% of cases.
And you know this because.. you're from Ukraine?.. you spent <how much> time there..?

And you are <how old>?

I'm 34, been coming to Ukraine since 2006 for business, spent most of my time in Kiev bit have also been to many of the other major cities. Tend to spend a week here at a time, I spend a lot of money on girls, I'm a decent looking guy, many of these girls are attracted to me also, which is good.

But if I had less cash to burn, then they would probably go with a rich Ukrainian 6.

Post: #65

some parts of europe are a pussy paradise but the inevitable Brits come through in their stag do's beating down the place with their betaness and doing their best to destroy it for the rest.

"COME ON LADS"

fucking knobs

Post: #66

very useful mate!

I hear increasingly that Europe is the pussy paradise of te world..I must feel fortunate

which advice and tips would you give to a 21 years old boy who wants to have a similar lifestyle that seem to yours?

I mean...find a good flat in the center of a third,second tier or main city and etablish a "headquarter"

¿in which ways I could earn and mantain a good stream of cash ?

Post: #67

(09-25-2012 05:55 AM)temujin Wrote:  

(09-25-2012 02:16 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

(09-25-2012 01:09 AM)temujin Wrote:  And I said 3x the average is what you should be earning to be in the running because that's the level I started at when I first moved to this region. When it started steadily increasing and I entered the 10x exponential, it was literally like "magic." I was hitting top-shelf 9s semi-consistently that were inaccessible to me previously...not because I was buying them, but because the lifestyle I could afford for myself was just that much better.

Why? Please break down how increasing your income meant you started hitting 9's all of a sudden that before were inaccessible. I presume your game did not magically improve when your wages did,or your looks. What I presume you mean is that you went to better clubs right? But then how did you deal with the more pretentious attitudes and higher bitch shields in them or the competition from locals with more $ then you? Were you fluent in the target markets language?

Break it down so that we can analyze if it was your wealth that was the essence of your magical improvement or some other factor. A very good friend of mine owns one of Russia's luxury brand companies. He has the penthouse in downtown Moscow,flies private,villa in Nice overlooking Cap Ferrat. Yet he was not banging 9's consistently in Russia. Look at the Wall Street bankers thread Roosh posted. I'm not saying you're wrong to state your theory but let's examine it in depth.

Break it down. Why did you magically start banging 9's that you never could before?

First of all, I've never been to Moscow. Everything I do, I do to maximize the big fish in a small pond effect, without resorting to unpleasant, industrial shit holes.

Looking back upon what changed from when I was relatively "poor" to relatively "well-off", here are what come to mind.

I went from living with 2 roommates to living alone in a place similar to below.



At the same time, I went from living in an okay part of town on the outskirts to the very prestigious center, within 1-5 minutes walking distance of bars, clubs, galleries, and restaurants. Extra expense per month? Around $1500 USD.

I went from dressing in jeans and a lame shirt to dressing in variances of this:



Extra total expense? Around $3000-4000 USD total, with some upkeep required.


I got a car, nothing fancy, just some wheels to pick someone up in and take for a quick spin on weekends and evenings. Extra expense? Around $2000 USD to ship my old car from the states to Europe. Around $200 USD per month in fuel cost (I don't drive often).


When I traveled to places like Switzerland, and a girl was accompanying me, I could afford to rent places with a view like this:



Extra expense per night? Around $150 USD per night with some haggling.


When I had a party in my flat, instead of serving pizza and beer, I had champaigne and nice bottles of wine spread out like this:



Extra expense per party? Around $150 USD per party.

During the middle of the week, I could afford to go out in the day or in the evening, meet a girl, pull her back to my place, bang her all night long, then SLEEP IN THE NEXT DAY. In other words, I was my own boss, not a 9-5 employee. When the girl asks what I do for a living, I'd say something like: "I have my own company...etc" She assumes I live a charmed life (maybe I do?)

I can go on into more detail, and there are probably a dozen more things I could list, but I have to run for now. Can add more later if it's helpful.

This is a great post.

Can you elaborate a little more?

Post: #68

I have to say, I'd like to figure out the FREE from 9-5 Charmed Life - Work/ Business Model