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punchboy · 10-17-2012 08:15 PM

Far from being in the position to give suggestions, from what you write here it seems you are too eager. That's the main problem that your writing conveys.

Additionally, don't expect a girl to reply to you if you say something that is false. How do you think a girl is letting you go inside her if she thinks you are dishonest after few minutes you met her?

About calling her... Don't do it. You texted her already, she didn't reply (read roosh text game). That's gone. Many girls give out numbers because they feel uncomfortable saying no. And even if she was interested, by calling her you are just making sure you'll have zero chances in the future. Maybe you'll meet her again in two months. Leave it for now. Trust me.

My suggestion is: try to chill. What girls like is guys who are smooth and interesting. Stop approaching girls as a machine. It's better to approach one girl the right way than approaching 100 hundred in the wrong way. For now, I would suggest that you focus on how to improve yourself (here many gave you already some suggestions).

What I have learned from reading this forum and Roosh's and Roissy's blogs is that "game" is not about getting women, is about becoming a better man. It's about self-improvement. By counting how many girls reply to you you are using the wrong measure. Girls will come, sure, but first you have to improve. If you don't do that, you are missing the big picture.

How many cool male friends do you have? Do cool guys want to hang out with you? Maybe the answer is yes; if it's no, ask yourself why this is the case. And try to make sure that if you meet a guy at the gym he'll aks you to hung out to pick up girls at bars together.

How many books do you read? How often do you go to the gym? How reliable are you to your friends? How many languages do you speak? What's great about your life that a girl would like to hear about? This post by Roosh summarizes the main point: http://www.rooshv.com/everything-i-know-about-women

AlbertoDelMuerto · 10-17-2012 08:23 PM

(10-17-2012 08:15 PM)punchboy Wrote: Far from being in the position to give suggestions, from what you write here it seems you are too eager. That's the main problem that your writing conveys.

Additionally, don't expect a girl to reply to you if you say something that is false. How do you think a girl is letting you go inside her if she thinks you are dishonest after few minutes you met her?

About calling her... Don't do it. You texted her already, she didn't reply (read roosh text game). That's gone. Many girls give out numbers because they feel uncomfortable saying no. And even if she was interested, by calling her you are just making sure you'll have zero chances in the future. Maybe you'll meet her again in two months. Leave it for now. Trust me.

My suggestion is: try to chill. What girls like is guys who are smooth and interesting. Stop approaching girls as a machine. It's better to approach one girl the right way than approaching 100 hundred in the wrong way. For now, I would suggest that you focus on how to improve yourself (here many gave you already some suggestions).

What I have learned from reading this forum and Roosh's and Roissy's blogs is that "game" is not about getting women, is about becoming a better man. It's about self-improvement. By counting how many girls reply to you you are using the wrong measure. Girls will come, sure, but first you have to improve. If you don't do that, you are missing the big picture.

How many cool male friends do you have? Do cool guys want to hang out with you? Maybe the answer is yes; if it's no, ask yourself why this is the case. And try to make sure that if you meet a guy at the gym he'll aks you to hung out to pick up girls at bars together.

How many books do you read? How often do you go to the gym? How reliable are you to your friends? How many languages do you speak? What's great about your life that a girl would like to hear about? This post by Roosh summarizes the main point: http://www.rooshv.com/everything-i-know-about-women

To be honest dude, I have only 1 friend in UK, and he is my wingman. I'm new in UK, people are not friendly, and I am not really looking to be friends with beta ass dudes who think it's wrong to approach women, or typical British football dudes that just wanna fight if you say something they don't like. Call me unsocial or whatever, I don't give a crap! I don't like following other people around, hence why I hate social circles.

chochemonger1 · 10-17-2012 08:33 PM

(10-17-2012 08:23 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:
(10-17-2012 08:15 PM)punchboy Wrote: Far from being in the position to give suggestions, from what you write here it seems you are too eager. That's the main problem that your writing conveys.

Additionally, don't expect a girl to reply to you if you say something that is false. How do you think a girl is letting you go inside her if she thinks you are dishonest after few minutes you met her?

About calling her... Don't do it. You texted her already, she didn't reply (read roosh text game). That's gone. Many girls give out numbers because they feel uncomfortable saying no. And even if she was interested, by calling her you are just making sure you'll have zero chances in the future. Maybe you'll meet her again in two months. Leave it for now. Trust me.

My suggestion is: try to chill. What girls like is guys who are smooth and interesting. Stop approaching girls as a machine. It's better to approach one girl the right way than approaching 100 hundred in the wrong way. For now, I would suggest that you focus on how to improve yourself (here many gave you already some suggestions).

What I have learned from reading this forum and Roosh's and Roissy's blogs is that "game" is not about getting women, is about becoming a better man. It's about self-improvement. By counting how many girls reply to you you are using the wrong measure. Girls will come, sure, but first you have to improve. If you don't do that, you are missing the big picture.

How many cool male friends do you have? Do cool guys want to hang out with you? Maybe the answer is yes; if it's no, ask yourself why this is the case. And try to make sure that if you meet a guy at the gym he'll aks you to hung out to pick up girls at bars together.

How many books do you read? How often do you go to the gym? How reliable are you to your friends? How many languages do you speak? What's great about your life that a girl would like to hear about? This post by Roosh summarizes the main point: http://www.rooshv.com/everything-i-know-about-women

To be honest dude, I have only 1 friend in UK, and he is my wingman. I'm new in UK, people are not friendly, and I am not really looking to be friends with beta ass dudes who think it's wrong to approach women, or typical British football dudes that just wanna fight if you say something they don't like. Call me unsocial or whatever, I don't give a crap! I don't like following other people around, hence why I hate social circles.

i understand where you are coming from my friend. Most of us are lone wolves and that is why the DC meeting was such a success....such few of us that we need, sometimes to have some time together. But in the end hunting alone is where it is at

punchboy · 10-17-2012 08:39 PM

You don't have to hung out with beta ass dudes.

What it seems to me is that you are looking for a magic formula, few words to plug into your approach that will get you a number, possibly a make-out and then sex. I am just saying that it will not work. It might work once. But don't expect much more than that.

You might hate social circles, but girls are the most social creatures on earth. Look at them: after work they pick the phone and call their friends. They go to have their nails done together, they then go to a bar, than to a restaurant, then they go to the restroom together.

What do they do the whole time? They talk, talk, talk.

You need to be able to talk with them. You can do it only if you are social, if you have something substantive to tell them (travels, languages, cooking classes, whatever you want). If the only conversations you have are with girls you approach on the street and with one guy, you are not going to project what girls want. Sorry to be direct, but this is the point.

I am saying this because I learned it the hard way. But I did learn it.

Few years ago I would rather hit clubs on my own than spend it with friends.

You can put all your effort in trying to learn "game" like schoolchildren do the night before an exam, or you can just try to improve the "package". This is what I am saying.

AlbertoDelMuerto · 10-17-2012 08:49 PM

(10-17-2012 08:39 PM)punchboy Wrote: You don't have to hung out with beta ass dudes.

What it seems to me is that you are looking for a magic formula, few words to plug into your approach that will get you a number, possibly a make-out and then sex. I am just saying that it will not work. It might work once. But don't expect much more than that.

You might hate social circles, but girls are the most social creatures on earth. Look at them: after work they pick the phone and call their friends. They go to have their nails done together, they then go to a bar, than to a restaurant, then they go to the restroom together.

What do they do the whole time? They talk, talk, talk.

You need to be able to talk with them. You can do it only if you are social, if you have something substantive to tell them (travels, languages, cooking classes, whatever you want). If the only conversations you have are with girls you approach on the street and with one guy, you are not going to project what girls want. Sorry to be direct, but this is the point.

I am saying this because I learned it the hard way. But I did learn it.

Few years ago I would rather hit clubs on my own than spend it with friends.

You can put all your effort in trying to learn "game" like schoolchildren do the night before an exam, or you can just try to improve the "package". This is what I am saying.

Do you think Roosh or Paul Janka got where they're at because of social circles? They got there because they approached so many and got so confident that picking up women are like saying the reverse alphabets to them. Look, I know a few PUAs claim to be social and all, but at the end of the day I don't wanna be dependent on anything. I don't need no damn cooking classes, I eat what I cook, and I am happy with it. The only classes that I'm gonna take are Salsa classes, but that is after I have saved up a couple hundred quids. If you're trying to say why I can't have women as just friends, it's because if their ugly or not good looking enough I don't wanna talk to them unless I have to, or if they're good looking I wanna just pick them up. As you know, men and women are different, and can't be friends, because of two apparent reasons, 1. Men are attracted to hot women 2.Men and women have different interests, men like to talk about sports and politics, and women like to gossip.

houston · 10-17-2012 09:02 PM

It kind of seems like youre hostile and have a bad attitude. Mix that with your currebt look and its gonna be hard to pull girls. This is all a GAME. You should be smiling and having fun.

rudebwoy · 10-17-2012 09:07 PM

(10-17-2012 08:15 PM)punchboy Wrote: Far from being in the position to give suggestions, from what you write here it seems you are too eager. That's the main problem that your writing conveys.

Additionally, don't expect a girl to reply to you if you say something that is false. How do you think a girl is letting you go inside her if she thinks you are dishonest after few minutes you met her?

About calling her... Don't do it. You texted her already, she didn't reply (read roosh text game). That's gone. Many girls give out numbers because they feel uncomfortable saying no. And even if she was interested, by calling her you are just making sure you'll have zero chances in the future. Maybe you'll meet her again in two months. Leave it for now. Trust me.

My suggestion is: try to chill. What girls like is guys who are smooth and interesting. Stop approaching girls as a machine. It's better to approach one girl the right way than approaching 100 hundred in the wrong way. For now, I would suggest that you focus on how to improve yourself (here many gave you already some suggestions).

What I have learned from reading this forum and Roosh's and Roissy's blogs is that "game" is not about getting women, is about becoming a better man. It's about self-improvement. By counting how many girls reply to you you are using the wrong measure. Girls will come, sure, but first you have to improve. If you don't do that, you are missing the big picture.

How many cool male friends do you have? Do cool guys want to hang out with you? Maybe the answer is yes; if it's no, ask yourself why this is the case. And try to make sure that if you meet a guy at the gym he'll aks you to hung out to pick up girls at bars together.

How many books do you read? How often do you go to the gym? How reliable are you to your friends? How many languages do you speak? What's great about your life that a girl would like to hear about? This post by Roosh summarizes the main point: http://www.rooshv.com/everything-i-know-about-women

You sound like a novice and alot of what you are saying is garbage.
How do you get better with girls if you don't approach?
Like anything else you need to practice, not every girl is the same.
How many cool friends do you have/ Do cool guys want to hang with you/ - are you in high school? WTF
Guys that do well aren't always the most interesting, they know how to relate to women, they listen and the most important thing - they NEVER take rejection personally.
Alberto told a lie and got caught out, no big deal. Trust me WE all lie when it comes to women.

punchboy · 10-17-2012 09:28 PM

(10-17-2012 09:07 PM)rudebwoy Wrote: You sound like a novice and alot of what you are saying is garbage.
How do you get better with girls if you don't approach?
Like anything else you need to practice, not every girl is the same.
How many cool friends do you have/ Do cool guys want to hang with you/ - are you in high school? WTF
Guys that do well aren't always the most interesting, they know how to relate to women, they listen and the most important thing - they NEVER take rejection personally.
Alberto told a lie and got caught out, no big deal. Trust me WE all lie when it comes to women.

Well, that garbage worked for me, so just trying to share my experience.

Point being: I'm rather skeptical that by ONLY focusing on learning how to micromanage every approach, one can go anywhere with women.

TXH · 10-17-2012 10:39 PM

AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:Do you think Roosh or Paul Janka got where they're at because of social circles? They got there because they approached so many and got so confident that picking up women are like saying the reverse alphabets to them.

This is like saying "Do you think Michael Jordan got where he was because he lifted weights? He got there because he could jump easily. So screw the weight room, I'm gonna do plyometrics all day." It's ALL connected, and the masters are always acquiring lots of little skills, even if they don't market them to you. Finding cool friends is hard, but to quit looking on principal is a step in the wrong direction.

AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:she didn't reply! I worked out the possible reasons why

Working out a few possible reasons for a single flake is a fool's errand, especially as a beginner. If you're already weak at getting numbers, the weakness will spill forward into the next steps of your method. Expect to get a high flake rate until you adjust your early game and get numbers. Even then, it takes tons of data points to even hope to trace the cause of flaking back to your behavior.

Giovonny · 10-18-2012 02:08 AM

(10-17-2012 07:53 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote: Did a little bit of daygame yesterday, and got a number. I texted the chick today "Hey Natalia, it was nice meeting you yesterday", and she didn't reply! I worked out the possible reasons why:

Alberto,

Don't waste your time trying to figure out why she didn't text you back. It's really not worth the brain power. You will never know exactly why she didn't respond? Focus on yourself what you could have done better. Tomorrow, do it better.

(10-17-2012 07:53 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote: 1. She was seated, and I was standing

You are over-analyzing.

(10-17-2012 07:53 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote: 2. I lied to her about being a Imperial College undergrad businesss student, and she said there are no undergrad business subjects, I reassured her there are, but later on I googled and found out she was right.

Oh shit! She caught you lying?!? This is the most likely reason why she didn't respond.

(10-17-2012 07:53 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote: 3. Didn't kino escalate.

More kino might have helped but I think getting caught lying is what screwed you.

(10-17-2012 07:53 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote: However, she still gave me some IOIs, she asked me my name, and of course when I asked for the number she gladly gave it. I am thinking of calling her tomorrow or the day after!

I would wait. You just texted her yesterday and she didn't respond. Wait a few days before you try again. About 6-8 days

qazwsx · 10-18-2012 04:43 AM

Take a look at this:

http://www.rooshv.com/the-roosh-program

http://www.rooshv.com/how-to-shorten-you...ning-curve

http://wonkawilly.wordpress.com/favorite-game-posts/

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-15359.html

Vorkuta · 10-18-2012 05:11 AM

(10-17-2012 08:49 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote: If you're trying to say why I can't have women as just friends, it's because if their ugly or not good looking enough I don't wanna talk to them unless I have to, or if they're good looking I wanna just pick them up. As you know, men and women are different, and can't be friends, because of two apparent reasons, 1. Men are attracted to hot women 2.Men and women have different interests, men like to talk about sports and politics, and women like to gossip.

You have it so wrong dude,so wrong.You are coming across as desperate.

You open everyone,young,old,ugly,hot,disabled,everyone. Why? Why talk to people you don't want to fcuk?

1) Because you are using them to get primed,to be in the zone,to get in state. Then you see the hot one you like and you go in feeling perfectly confident as though it's the most natural thing in the world. Which with your primed talkative frame it is.

2) Secondly because you are a normal human being who likes meeting people. The best day gamers understand this. Going out to 'day game and only toapproach hot women' is a fools errand for newbies. You go out to have fun and enjoy meeting people,to have a laugh. You might number close a hottie,you might not. It don't matter because you've had a great day out busting on women and people. Have that mind frame and you shed any hint of desperation. People will get drawn to YOU. Trust me.

What comes across from your posts is a total lack of joy or happiness or excitement. You sound bitter,you're bitter that you don't find Brits friendly,you're bitter that you can't get dates...Put yourself in a woman's place. Why would any woman want to go out with you? Someone who clearly doesn't find women interesting because men and women 'can't be friends'?! Get that shit out of your head.

Like others have said,go out and have male friends,not all Brits are into football and fighting mate,like you said earlier. You obviously don't seem to know where to make cool friends or how to.

I feel you're just another 'Spartan'.

slubu · 10-18-2012 05:21 AM

Sitting in an airport and just read this entire thread. You come off as too harsh and angry and you need to change that. Whether it's friends or coworkers or girls, nobody wants to be around negativity. People want to be around positive and fun people. Ever notice there is always that guy who everyone gets excited to see? Strive for that. And it doesn't have to be a certain thing either. One of my friends is always laughing at everything and makes the mood better, so we love it when he comes out. He is married but it still makes it better. Another makes great conversation so he is always welcome. Then have another friend that gets angry and accusatory all the time and is too sensitive. We always hesitate to bring him anywhere.

Also I don't understand the hesitation of making guy friends. There are no cool people in London? Hard to believe. Meet some people off here. I have and actually get along very well with a few. Some I don't. Who cares.

We all fail don't take it personally. Last night I watched multiple guys leave with girls and then went home alone and made eggs and then slept. Yes I was upset, but shit like that happens. Another night I went out and ended up having a threesome by just saying hi to one girl at closing time. Who knows who cares just have fun.

Experiment with your look. I changed hairstyles and all of a sudden I was much more successful. I put on a blazer for the first time and had guys and girls complimenting me. I tried the tshirt look didn't work at all. Everyone has their own style aesthetically and by way of personality. I've met some guys off here and gone out with them and the shit they say I cannot fathom working but it does because it suits their style.

Experiment. Laugh. Relax. Have fun.

TXH · 10-19-2012 01:10 AM

AlbertoDelMuerto, it's Friday morning in London, almost the weekend. You've had several days to consider what to change for your next 100 day game approaches. Do you have a plan yet? Keep it simple, and take action.

XXL · 10-19-2012 09:16 AM

DAYGAME IN A NUTSHELL

funky step #1: express your interest
while breaking the ice be chill and friendly, not like a creep who just got out of his dark lair for the first time in a month. if she's moving you have to decide quick either to stop her and talk OR to walk with her and talk. important: don't mix it up, it will not work, this half hearted shit is what makes guys creepy. so when you decide to
- stop her on her tracks do it decisively with 100% conviction, think of how like you would stop your friend passing by who didn't notice you, so assertively but not too aggresively or half hearted.
- on the other hand if you decide to walk with her being charming & talkative then do that without dominating her, and then as you're walking with her when you see her eyes light up then you stop her, she's attracted, eyes never lie.

really pay attention to the girl, her body language gives you cues. when you're about to open and you see her sad/pissed/abstracted/absent/etc you probably won't pull off stoping her on her tracks dominantly, it's better to walk with and talk until she snaps. on the other hand, when you see a girl is good mood/happy eyes then stopping her on her tracks will probably be good because of positive emotions already circling within her body (what she's thinking is associated to what she's feeling). in worst case scenario if she's not stopping for you then you can step back and walk with her and talk.

as for verbal content expressing interest doesn't necessarily always mean obvious compliment [although it can be no problem], but it can be "hey excuse me/wait, we don't even know each other, it can't be like that! [playful smile], what's your name/who are you?" or "[point finger at her] hey! i choose you, ha ha hi what's your name?". she will get it.

ok she knows what's up, congrats you just saved fuckload of your precious time you would waste otherwise shifting gears from her pen to her pants. if she stays she's interested too or at least curious. from there it's more about not fucking it up rather than selling yourself hard. if she says she got BF right away, tease her a bit, if she's for real... next. time management for the win.

funky step #2: act normal & natural
never ever over game, force the situation or push and rush things. it's bad bad vibe it totally fucks up your sets without you even knowing it. she could walk away but she's staying with you. so step back, stay relaxed, loosen up, smile, breathe. assume it's on and enjoy the game. give off chill and easy going vibe. keep things playful, joke around, chat about whatever you find interesting and worth talking about, just like with your friends when you shoot the shit and have fun conversations, tell a story from your life, ramble about something interesting that happened to you. just talk shit but avoid saying stupid shit. it's about not saying retarded shit than saying amazing stuff.

act as NORMAL as you possibly can. it's so so so key. believe me that's all these bitches want, someone normal who they can just talk to and have some fun. when you approach a cute/hot girl all she's thinking is "please be normal, pleeeeeeease god make him normal..". and when you indeed seem normal and innocent she can breathe a sigh of relief, be comfortable and really focus on you. a good test to find out whether you give off bad/weird vibe is asking yourself "if i approached a GROUP of girls the same way i approached a girl by herself, would it be weird and uncomfortable situation"? if the answer is yes then it's quite clear what's wrong, usually it has something to do with being too aggresive/pushy/clingy/fucking idiot or too aloof/uptight/meek/withdrawn.

funky step #3. seed & lead
plan A: ask her what she's doing right. if she's free, go for date right away and take it as far as you can. in summer vacations it's possible to have sex after daytime instant date so be open minded.
plan B: she's busy. seed day2, mention something fun and specific, ask her when she's free this week and set it up on the spot. if you skip it and just take her number it will be harder to set up a day2 over the phone. so give it a try.
plan C: nothing works. take her number and do your best over the phone.

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related... reputation and other disasters of daygame

AlbertoDelMuerto · 10-19-2012 11:56 PM

(10-19-2012 01:10 AM)TXH Wrote: AlbertoDelMuerto, it's Friday morning in London, almost the weekend. You've had several days to consider what to change for your next 100 day game approaches. Do you have a plan yet? Keep it simple, and take action.

Yea doing daygame tomorrow! I am gonna be direct and will try to keep it short, and hug them goodbye instead of shaking hands.

Vorkuta · 10-20-2012 01:59 AM

Yeah don't shake a woman's hand in day game, better off doing nothing then that. When you go for the hug say "ok,I'm gonna go meet a friend,let's hug it out" with a smile and at tbe same time moving to hug her as though it's normal to hug strangers on the street. Remember you're not asking her if she'd like a hug,you're telling her that's what you're both going to do. It's a good test: if she is uncomfortable hugging you or pushes away then you won't SNL. Don't hug girls you've not number closed after a poor interaction.

There are loads of kino ways to end an encounter:

"shall we say goodbye with a kiss?" If it's on go for makeout.
Fist pump
High five
Hug
Salsa move
Overexagerated air kisses on both cheeks "mwah darling,Ciao"
Comical palm read "you have a very short life line,we best meet before the weekend"
Primp her collar and adjust her hair and say "that's better"

Practice with different ones Alberto until you find one that consistently goes down well.
Good luck.

XXL · 10-20-2012 02:55 AM

(10-20-2012 01:59 AM)Vorkuta Wrote: Yeah don't shake a woman's hand in day game, better off doing nothing then that.

why not?

Vorkuta · 10-20-2012 03:33 AM

(10-20-2012 02:55 AM)XXL Wrote:
(10-20-2012 01:59 AM)Vorkuta Wrote: Yeah don't shake a woman's hand in day game, better off doing nothing then that.
why not?

Because it's so formal and contradictory to the fun playful frame I run with my approaches. And because there are better options.

You shake hands at the end XXL?

XXL · 10-20-2012 04:27 AM

oops i missed the post you related to in your answer, yeah shakehand at the end it's super weird, it's actually rejection.. "it was nice to meet you" + handshake [but good diss to use in the middle of interaction.. "what, you smoke? it was nice to meet you" + handshake]

Giovonny · 10-20-2012 11:36 AM

(10-19-2012 11:56 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote: Yea doing daygame tomorrow! I am gonna be direct and will try to keep it short, and hug them goodbye instead of shaking hands.

This should be interesting!!

Let us know how it goes..

j r · 10-20-2012 12:23 PM

(10-19-2012 11:56 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote: Yea doing daygame tomorrow! I am gonna be direct and will try to keep it short, and hug them goodbye instead of shaking hands.

I don't understand your aversion to going indirect. Direct game works well for two types of guys: guys who are very good looking and guys who have incredible personal charisma. You're not a bad-looking guy, but you don't fit into the first category. I'm assuming that you don't fit into the second either; otherwise, you wouldn't have had to post this thread.

I also don't understand the concern about being friendzoned. You can't really get friendzoned on the initial meet. You're concern should be not getting blown out and creating enough interest that she wants to see you again. Even if it's just to hang out and she thinks to herself that she has no desire to be romantically involved in you, so what? When you hang out, that's when you build attraction. Getting friendzoned is something that happens after hanging out once or twice and not getting any.

AlbertoDelMuerto · 10-21-2012 01:53 AM

Breakdown of street game from 5:00 PM to 7:00 PM

Solo Sets: 2
Group Sets approached :4
Numbers : 0
Type: Direct game " Hey I just saw you and thought you were cute....what's your name"
Number of times they brought up boyfriends: 2
Why no more sets: rained like crazy...

As for changing my appearance, I got a military style haircut, but it ain't looking good on me, I look thinner! I am also clean-shaven now, and I look younger (not a good thing).

On a side-note, Friday night a Turkish PUA dude started talking to a failed set after my conversation with them died out. I didn't leave the venue because I wanted to see how he does, surprisingly he did get the number and chicks seemed very happy talking to him, he wasn't all that aggressive and opened saying "Can I just tell you something before you go upstairs? (Chick Replies) I think you're gorgeous.. What's your name?" I didn't listen in on the conversation anymore, but observed the whole pickup from 20 foot away, and as soon as he got the digits, I approached him saying "Well done dude", and he said "Sorry mate, I din't mean to cockblock but when I saw your conversation died out I had to come in". So I ask him how long he's been doing this, and he tells me almost 6 years now. He also told me that he used to go sarging with Sasha Daygame and some other popular London PUAs, but his ultimate guru is RSD Tyler! Then he asked me if I wanted to walk with him for a bit and approach a few sets so that he can critique my approach, I thought why not!
So I approached 3 chicks (Sets of two) with "Hey how are ya?You look like you're having a lot of fun. Do you come here often?" and every single one of them were low-energy, had a bored kind of body language, and didn't ask me a single question, so I walked away. Turkish PUA said, "As long as they don't reject you keep asking questions and making statements, also don't forget to smile, and never walk off without saying see ya later, not unless they're rude". Later on, Turkish PUA and I, we waited outside another bar for chicks, where he went into a mixed set of 2 dudes and a chick, and number closed the chick without engaging the dudes at all! After getting the two numbers, Turkish PUA said he'll call it a day, and he told me to never go indirect as it never worked for anyone he knew.

XXL · 10-21-2012 03:31 AM

good thing is you found partner in crime. go out with him to game. 6 years of rsd stuff is potent. you will see some cool things. you will have competent wingman. and you will get OBJECTIVE feedback that guys rolling solo don't get (therefore you will develop faster than them). no matter your actual skills as long as you keep enthusiasm and eagerness to game game game he will be happy to game chicks with you.

houston · 10-21-2012 09:30 AM

You should want to look thin and young. I wouldnt trade that for nothing.

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