okay i was in school the other day and i tried this new method on a few different girls and i could tell they were thinking bout me for the rest of the lesson because of its playfulness, i just wanted to get other gamers opinions on it. so i would walk up right next to them, i would gently push them and when they look around and can tell it was me i would smile and them and say "alright now who pushed this girl" every single time i did it i got a laugh ouot of the girls i tried it on if it were not pe i would of made an attempt for their number??

Forget their number. Arrange a meeting there and then.
I dunno about the pushing, you can't do that in all situations, but I will remember it, thanks.

Try this:
"Hi, I like the way you look so I thought I'd come over and introduce myself. My name is (_____). What's yours?"

Then learn how to say it in lots of different languages

That's good, man. Alls I have to say is if you can muster up enough balls to do this kind of opener, then you shouldn't really worry about the rest because only cool guys have the courage to do this sort of thing anyway, and from what I can tell, you are a coooool dude.

dasword: I find it a cool opener! I'll try it or something similar during day game at a mall.

Sir Bangalot: yours is pretty lame actually, because is the normal "opener" of chumps in c movies, you get no sympathy from girls that way, because is not creative and not funny nor casual. 2 thumbs down!

(03-15-2010 02:33 AM)lilactag Wrote:  Sir Bangalot: yours is pretty lame actually, because is the normal "opener" of chumps in c movies, you get no sympathy from girls that way, because is not creative and not funny nor casual. 2 thumbs down!

Fair enough. But I'm on this forum to learn and grow, so I will adapt as I carry on reading and experimenting.

I tried the pushing thing in line for the train but ended up laughing before the girl, LOL!

eh i dont like it, if you got laughs out of pushing them then acting like that then it shows that you could probably do something more direct and to the point and get the same if not better results. and who cares if youre in pe get that number dawg

Openers don't really matter that much. As long as it opens, you're good.

Pickup is less about lines and more about maintaining a dominant frame. That is, putting out a good vibe, controlling the flow of the conversation/action, moving her around physically, and keeping her focused on you. It is also about logistics. How will you get her physically from point A to point B while maneuvering around/plowing through the obstacles to laying her?

Sir Bangalot's line is ok. So is dasword's. Girls don't really factor in the opener when deciding whether or not they're going to lay you. For me, the opener sets the tone of the pickup and gets me in a certain mindset, but that doesn't mean I can't change gears a couple minutes in. For example, using dasword's opener, the vibe would be very playful, but going too far down that line doesn't create enough tension to create gina tingles. Using Sir Bangalot's line would create more of an "I'm into you and I could see my penis inside of you" vibe, depending on how you say it.

Sir Bangalot's is creating a "pulling" vibe and dasword's is creating far more of a "pushing" vibe. Implementing both of these is crucial to a successful pickup and creating sexual tension.

Opening is at most the first 30 seconds of the interaction. I think a lot of guys put a lot of weight and importance on it because for a lot of guys, the most difficult step is the first one. That is, opening and getting over approach anxiety is difficult, but once they get that first foot through the door, they can talk their asses off.

(03-16-2010 09:59 PM)jdsizzle Wrote:  who cares if youre in pe get that number dawg

From what I read, most schools are canceling pe classes because of budget cuts.

Mess around with the girls in English or History class. You have pens right there to get their numbers.

Be happy you're not one of the American kids the government is secretly trying to fatten up.

I know there's girls jumping around there and it's tough, but try to learn something.

Stay healthy and it will pay off girl-wise in the long term.

Aloha!

Ugslayer

I've put a lot of thought into your reply. I think I copied it from the style of black men. When a black guy is interested, generally the girl is under no illusion about it and knows what to expect and reciprocates the game according to her style and personality. It cuts out the deterioation (I know I haven't spelled that correctly) into friendship as she knows if she sends too many 'go away' messages then I will just go approach someone else pretty much straightaway.

I tried lots of pushing stuff and failed miserably, so I'm more comfortable with pulling. Pushing reminds me of when I was 14 and spent the whole day just thinking about making a snazzy, colourful approach but not actually making any approach at all out of fear of repercussion. 26 years on, I just go up and blurt out any old shit just to start a convo.

When I go out with 3-4 male friends, it's always me that they send to make initial contact with a herd of girls. After that, I introduce my friends and they seem confident enough AFTER being introduced. The downside to this game-show host thing is that as the night wears on, I feel obligated to talk to the head girl (not necessarily the one I approached). Problem here is that the head girl invariably isn't my type as I'm not interested in banging a head bitch who feels like it's her genetic and moral duty to look after her brood.

:-(

Oh well, back to the pulling tutorial for me.

(03-17-2010 07:12 AM)Sir Bangalot Wrote:  Ugslayer

I've put a lot of thought into your reply. I think I copied it from the style of black men. When a black guy is interested, generally the girl is under no illusion about it and knows what to expect and reciprocates the game according to her style and personality. It cuts out the deterioation (I know I haven't spelled that correctly) into friendship as she knows if she sends too many 'go away' messages then I will just go approach someone else pretty much straightaway.

I tried lots of pushing stuff and failed miserably, so I'm more comfortable with pulling. Pushing reminds me of when I was 14 and spent the whole day just thinking about making a snazzy, colourful approach but not actually making any approach at all out of fear of repercussion. 26 years on, I just go up and blurt out any old shit just to start a convo.

When I go out with 3-4 male friends, it's always me that they send to make initial contact with a herd of girls. After that, I introduce my friends and they seem confident enough AFTER being introduced. The downside to this game-show host thing is that as the night wears on, I feel obligated to talk to the head girl (not necessarily the one I approached). Problem here is that the head girl invariably isn't my type as I'm not interested in banging a head bitch who feels like it's her genetic and moral duty to look after her brood.

:-(

Oh well, back to the pulling tutorial for me.

TBH with using lines like your first one it aint goin to get u anywhere, I GOT 8 RANDOM GIRLS NUMBERS IN 3 DAYS USING THIS METHOD. XD try it but just have a cheecky little grin on your face,. girls cant resist that, also dont just pretend to be playful BE PLAYFUL and enjoy yourself

OK, I'm up for a challenge.

Will do it your style and put up results in ten days.

(03-20-2010 08:26 PM)Sir Bangalot Wrote:  OK, I'm up for a challenge.

Will do it your style and put up results in ten days.

alright buddy have fun and good luck

Dasword, I appreaciate your enthusiasm, but I don't really like that approach. It's a little intrusive for my taste, I get its playfullness and all, but just not my thing I guess.

Not sure about the "game of black men" thing either.

As already mentioned, the important thing about opening is doing it. With some basic skills you can number close many girls with a simple "what is the time?"

I just opened a chick about 5 min ago in the smoking lounge of Beijing Airport with a "do you know how the hell these lighters work?" I got the number, but since shes from LA, and only doing a brief visit, and my flight is in 2 hours or so, nothing with come from it, but its nice to keep the practice up.

It is important tho, never go directly for the number, set the meet if logisitics allow. You meet a chick randomly, there is no reason you shouldnt try for a same day date somewhere, or set plans. Numbers are easy. I have not been refused a number in the last 6 months. Most of those never convert tho. Get plans so a number is just natural, and then follow up on them.