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(04-08-2013 07:07 PM)kbell Wrote:  Are you getting a ton of traffic from that article too? Portland sounds like Toronto but weirder.

I don't have access to RoK's stats, but I imagine they're off the charts. My own blog has seen its traffic triple, in part thanks to white knights giving me free publicity with "best-of" lists like this.

(04-08-2013 04:06 PM)Roosh Wrote:  The insults against appearance would come even if you were thin, by the way. They go after me for my beard and hairiness.

I know man. Half the comments aren't even about my weight, they're about my forehead (?) and my goatee (which half the men in Portland have).

(04-08-2013 06:00 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 05:25 PM)bodmon Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 04:01 PM)Matt Forney Wrote:  Remember that, gentlemen: saying that women in a particular city are fat and unattractive is the equivalent of reciting the n-word in Harlem.

and leveling the same criticism at you apparently results in an IP ban across all of ROK ("You do not have permission to post on this thread"). is this real life? whatever pangs of remorse felt above are fading.

Hmm that was probably me that banned you. I do that when the hate is gratuitous.

Yeah, the only guy I had a problem with was Harpo/Blastoise; he's a notorious tranny troll I used to tangle with on my own blog. I dropped "his" dox one day and he vanished, only to reappear on RoK when I post something.

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What would they have said if you weren't white since Portland is full of hipsters and "loving" people? Popcorn 2
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Quote:I don't have access to RoK's stats, but I imagine they're off the charts.

Today ROK went double viral. My Croatian articles were on the news there today.

It seems the Portland traffic peaked a few hours ago.

This one is funny:

http://www.portlandpulp.com/stories/matt...24661.html

Quote:Return of Kings, where this is being promoted, is an uncomfortable portal into mucky white guy libertarianism, where homosexuals and socialist welfare culture are crushing America and its last great hope are semi-autos you can smoke weed out of. But the real gems they save for the ladies. A sample of headlines: '3 Signs She’s Making A False Rape Accusation,' 'Girls Are About To Get Even Sluttier,' 'Modern Woman In Wanting To Be For Herself, Has Destroyed Herself' and '5 Ways To Emasculate A Man.' These were all from the first page. Though they do mitigate the damage by linking to a "Live Video Demonstration of How to Simulate the G Spot!"

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(04-08-2013 07:26 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
Quote:Return of Kings, where this is being promoted, is an uncomfortable portal into mucky white guy libertarianism, where homosexuals and socialist welfare culture are crushing America and its last great hope are semi-autos you can smoke weed out of. But the real gems they save for the ladies. A sample of headlines: '3 Signs She’s Making A False Rape Accusation,' 'Girls Are About To Get Even Sluttier,' 'Modern Woman In Wanting To Be For Herself, Has Destroyed Herself' and '5 Ways To Emasculate A Man.' These were all from the first page. Though they do mitigate the damage by linking to a "Live Video Demonstration of How to Simulate the G Spot!"

I'm disappointed they didn't take offense to my headline.

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Maybe it means they know it's true.

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(04-08-2013 07:19 PM)houston Wrote:  What would they have said if you weren't white since Portland is full of hipsters and "loving" people? Popcorn 2

Given that Torontonians went out of their way to attack Roosh for being Middle Eastern (while simultaneously calling him a "racist"... the irony, it burns), the Portlanders would have found a way to beat me over the head with it as well.

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I'm getting tired of your lousy spelling. As I noted on Return of Kings, it's "Porklanders." Please correct this grave error if you want to be taken seriously.

"Porkland -- home of the other white meat" -- Tom Leykis.

(04-08-2013 03:57 AM)Matt Forney Wrote:  Just posted to Reddit. (My article: here.)

As expected, the feminasties and white knights are out in full force:

Quote:My recommendation: don't even click on the article. It's just a bitter asshole spewing insipid flamebait, it's not worth ticking his visit counter to check out just how bad it is.

Quote:Damn. I don't think there is a day that goes by that I'm not thankful I'm married. There are so many beautiful/interesting women in Portland, I don't want to have to deal with that kind of thing again. Too many, too hard to pick. I think this whole thing is code for, they are smarter than me and don't buy my bullshit, so I'm going to knock them all.
You want boring and uninspired. Go to So Cal. Oh look, another skinny blonde with boobs. Great. Yawn.

Quote:I think its kind of sad. These men are hide behind their ideas about what it means to be a man because they have serious personal issues.
On a side note, Oregon women are beautiful and much more fit than women in the midwest. I love it.

Quote:Man thats dumb. I've seen more attractive women in Portland than I've seen in the rest of the west coast, Chicago, and New York. Lots of pretty people in this city.

There's way more lulz where that came from, including the gaggle of simps lining up for an online Singles Mixer. They're going full Toronto now and I expect this article will have blown up by morning. Laugh Laugh Laugh

Popcorn 2

As expected, none of them are trying to factually refute anything I wrote, just commenting on how I'm "ugly" and "misogynistic." As "proof," they're posting a picture of an attractive Polish chick grabbing onto me at Mount Rushmore. In Portland, she'd be in the top 5% of beauty. I shit you not, gentlemen.

Don't go to Portland unless you like indie rock and microbrews.

(EDIT: Just realized I posted in the wrong forum, my bad.)
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'After I pick up some free-range couscous and non-gluten pancakes from Whole Foods, finish up with my LGBT-Transgender Homeless Literacy awareness group and torrent the new Owl City album, I'm gonna kick Matt Forney's ass!'
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(04-08-2013 12:17 PM)bodmon Wrote:  i had made a comment early on criticizing your appearance and i'm very uncomfortable with the number of upvotes it has now garnered.

let it be known that in no way was i seeking to defend portland or taking issue with the substance of your article. i don't doubt the accuracy and astuteness of your observations and that portland is a shithole for men.

i was merely calling you out, on an INTER-manosphere basis, on your lack of baseline presentability through your neglect in the areas of body composition and fashion, which are well within a man's control, and how that would make you a peculiar candidate for commentator on socio-sexual realities.

outside of that and against butthurt portlanders, i am on your side. portland: not even once.

however... what i've just written i can't seem to post in the comments section. if it's a glitch, then ok; if i've been IP banned then that's a real shame.


Agreed !

I like Matt Forney, his style of writing and his insights on a several issues. I even have his blog bookmarked & visit it weekly.

But when i first saw a video of him i was slightly disappointed.

I dont want to sound like a dick , but complaining about the lack of attractiveness of Portland/ American women while being pleasantly plump himself , with little regard for style is very hypocritical to say the least.

I really hope some of my favorite posters here like Basil, Samseau, Westcoast ... etc are not like that.
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Every time I hear about Portland, I only think about one thing...

Portlandia:



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(04-08-2013 07:26 PM)Roosh Wrote:  It seems the Portland traffic peaked a few hours ago.

This one is funny:

http://www.portlandpulp.com/stories/matt...24661.html

Quote:Return of Kings, where this is being promoted, is an uncomfortable portal into mucky white guy libertarianism, where homosexuals and socialist welfare culture are crushing America and its last great hope are semi-autos you can smoke weed out of.

What happens when they begin to realize that many of ROK's contributors a) aren't white men and b) in many cases aren't politically libertarian in the least?
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Posted a comment on the portlandpulp article - http://fyre.it/fS9jzv.4 - we'll see how long it lasts. It's funny that he couldn't even do ad hominems without blatantly lying.

I fully expect it to be deleted, just like I would a tweet if I tweeted the guy, or if it was a youtube video comments and ratings would be disabled. Can't reason, can't rationalize, can't logically argue with these people... might as well try anyways. Or at least call them out on their bullshit.

Also love how the guy has 1 positive comment to date, from this... thing. Just too perfect.
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(04-08-2013 08:54 PM)LibertarianBootyHunter Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 12:17 PM)bodmon Wrote:  i had made a comment early on criticizing your appearance and i'm very uncomfortable with the number of upvotes it has now garnered.

let it be known that in no way was i seeking to defend portland or taking issue with the substance of your article. i don't doubt the accuracy and astuteness of your observations and that portland is a shithole for men.

i was merely calling you out, on an INTER-manosphere basis, on your lack of baseline presentability through your neglect in the areas of body composition and fashion, which are well within a man's control, and how that would make you a peculiar candidate for commentator on socio-sexual realities.

outside of that and against butthurt portlanders, i am on your side. portland: not even once.

however... what i've just written i can't seem to post in the comments section. if it's a glitch, then ok; if i've been IP banned then that's a real shame.


Agreed !

I like Matt Forney, his style of writing and his insights on a several issues. I even have his blog bookmarked & visit it weekly.

But when i first saw a video of him i was slightly disappointed.

I dont want to sound like a dick , but complaining about the lack of attractiveness of Portland/ American women while being pleasantly plump himself , with little regard for style is very hypocritical to say the least.

I really hope some of my favorite posters here like Basil, Samseau, Westcoast ... etc are not like that.

I don't get offended when people insult my looks because I'm actively working to improve them. I lift three times a week, I eat Paleo, and I go for a walk daily. I don't sit around on my ass shoveling down ice cream whining about how people need to accept me for "who I am," which is precisely what the feminists in Portland do.

Additionally, that picture of me was taken while I was on my hitchhiking trip. If I had brought nice clothes on that trip, they would have just been ruined by that point, seeing as I was walking 10-20 miles a day while carrying a 80-pound backpack, as well as climbing barbed wire fences, crossing creeks and railroad tracks, and generally pushing myself to the limit. Hell, that pic was taken a week after I left Williston, North Dakota, where I'd been employed digging ditches, flagging and other blue-collar jobs where you get more exercise in a day than most Portlanders get in a month.

Also, as I wrote to bodman originally on my article, I wrote it not for myself but taking in consideration the needs/wants of RoK/RVF readers/members. Part of being a good writer is knowing what your audience wants, and I know you guys don't want to date fat, pierced feminists. I don't need to be an Adonis to point out what's both readily observable with my own eyes and corroborated by Bronan and everyone else who's ever lived here.

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(04-08-2013 10:46 PM)Matt Forney Wrote:  I don't need to be an Adonis to point out what's both readily observable with my own eyes and corroborated by Bronan and everyone else who's ever lived here.

Don't sweat the comments, MF. Someone found one unflattering picture of you and used it to try to derail you from the point. Even if you do look like that all the time, it's a further testament to your game. Nothing screams zero-credibility than a 6'4" male-model stand-in talking about game. It's like, "Shut the fuck up. You're cruising on your looks."

Next time someone comes at you like this, be like, "Even if I did look like a troll, that doesn't change the fact that [Portland] is filled with monsters ten times uglier than I looked at my worst, which is that picture. Everyone knows Portland is a shithole for heterosexual men."

Then move on. Stop explaining that you're improving your looks. Keep hitting the gym, take a picture where you look like a hot ticket (oiled down with a smug look on your face), and post it front and center on your blog with all kinds of SEO keywords.

Problem solved.

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I don't know, man. I've noticed a trend happening lately with writers where they begin operating under the assumption that shock sells...and I don't mean that in the way Ellis or Chuck do it. I mean writing something so completely off-base and tactless that it's comparable to reciting N-bomb poetry in Harlem. It's your basic "I'm gonna talk shit" piece for the sake of attention...and that's basically in the end game: attention. Attention = website hits. So the guy has done his job, but at what cost? His reputation is basically ruined now. Oh, and good luck getting laid after this.

Mistaking truth for shock or shit-talking is one of the most elementary forms of denial.
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Props for hitting the road like a motherfucker, Matt. I don't much mind when people criticize those things I can control, either, because I'm usually 10x more critical of myself then they ever are.

Hell, for all the "misogyny" floating around this forum, the most detailed and debated items are almost solely in the self-improvement categories. As Roosh pointed at some time ago, a lot of people think we are oppressing women by not paying attention to their lies and making ourselves more attractive to them.


But yeah, those clothes are too loose on you, even though I'm guessing you lost a bit of weight doing the blue collar thing.

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Nerd rage just doesn't translate to real life. When I meet the sources of these voluminous postings in person, they have poor interpersonal skills and odd, uncomfortable body language. They think they're fulfilling the manic pixie trope, but instead they're just twitchy, shifty eyed, unable to make eye contact and with a flabby, weak handshake.

But the other thing is they literally can't shut up the fuck up for five minutes. They suffer non-stop, constant verbal diarrhea. They're the kind of asshole that you can never take hunting or fishing because not scaring the game away takes being silent for a few hours, maybe even all day. If you ask one of these nerds to hold his lips together that long, his brain would literally explode because he absolutely has to talk out loud about some episode of Dr. Who. It's important to have the social skills to chat a bird up to establish comfort while also reading her responses to establish rapport, as Roosh outlines in Bang; nerd run-on of the mouth is a whole different level of having an unfocused, constantly distracted mind that just blurts forth media tropes and supposedly clever snarky dialog memorized from television and comic strips over and over again, coupled with an aspergers level inability to read people's boredom with their shit. You know that guy who can repeat every Monty Python episode and talks along with it when its on the TV? Yeah, that guy.

Unfortunately rather than putting the effort into self improvement and growing past these personality flaws, they spend all their time addicted to communication mediums where these limitations are masked. Like ASCII text posts on the internet.

On-line they will pile on with their shallow virtual friends in two minutes of hate attempts at group shame. But let's also be clear: This personality type sock puppets constantly to make it appear there are people that agree with them. On the internet, no body knows that that group of 50 people is actually just one guy with 50 accounts and waaaaaay too much time on his hands. Particularly on newspaper comment sections that don't track IP addresses. If a bunch of accounts sound alike and say the same thing, it's generally because there's just one guy posting across multiple accounts, pretending to be a group.

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Anyone else having trouble accessing RoK? This Reddit convo makes it seem like it's an intentional DDoS attack. I've screencapped it in case the comment is deleted.

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Of note: "pdx-throwaway-2013" only joined Reddit three hours ago and has made only that one post. Screencapping his profile page; click here in case that link stops working.

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(04-09-2013 02:42 AM)Matt Forney Wrote:  Anyone else having trouble accessing RoK?

A denial of service attack at 1am Portland time is going to deny what, 5 night owl readers? How lame.

Typically this is a backup monkey in a computer lab that's using the datacenter downtime during the nightly tape backup to misuse all the computers at his disposal during the backup window to stage his attack. It's a pretty simple script to write, and you just copy it to a couple dozen servers and run it over and over again.

It should only last a few hours and then promptly stop when their servers come up for work again. It'd be very informative to look at the IP log and then let that company know what their datacenter night staff is doing with their internet trunk line after everyone else goes home.

Especially if you also bill them for the lost revenue resulting from their rogue staff's denial of service attack.

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(04-09-2013 02:58 AM)Blackhawk Wrote:  
(04-09-2013 02:42 AM)Matt Forney Wrote:  Anyone else having trouble accessing RoK?

A denial of service attack at 1am Portland time is going to deny what, 5 night owl readers? How lame.

Typically this is a backup monkey in a computer lab that's using the datacenter downtime during the nightly tape backup to misuse all the computers at his disposal during the backup window to stage his attack. It's a pretty simple script to write, and you just copy it to a couple dozen servers and run it over and over again.

If it only lasts a few hours and then promptly stops at 6am, it'd be very informative to look at the IP log and then let that company know what their datacenter night staff is doing with their internet trunk line after everyone else goes home.

Especially if you also bill them for the lost revenue resulting from their rogue staff's denial of service attack.



Can't access RoK either...
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(04-09-2013 02:58 AM)Blackhawk Wrote:  
(04-09-2013 02:42 AM)Matt Forney Wrote:  Anyone else having trouble accessing RoK?

A denial of service attack at 1am Portland time is going to deny what, 5 night owl readers? How lame.

Typically this is a backup monkey in a computer lab that's using the datacenter downtime during the nightly tape backup to misuse all the computers at his disposal during the backup window to stage his attack. It's a pretty simple script to write, and you just copy it to a couple dozen servers and run it over and over again.

It should only last a few hours and then promptly stop when their servers come up for work again. It'd be very informative to look at the IP log and then let that company know what their datacenter night staff is doing with their internet trunk line after everyone else goes home.

Especially if you also bill them for the lost revenue resulting from their rogue staff's denial of service attack.

Makes sense. I was afraid this was an organized Anonymous-style attack, but my own website is fine; Anonymous would have gone after me as well. They would have also Tweeted at me to let me know they were fucking with me.

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Wow, the white knights on the article's comment section were hilariously infuriating.

Particularly Mark Russell, who looks like this:

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I think you were arguing with him on twitter Matt, but I can't seem to find him by his given name to diss him.

On a further note, I particularly enjoyed this exchange, with another WK:

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@MattBors Yeah, in a world where people are starving to death, calling a 300-pound woman with a ring in her nose "ugly" is so horrible.

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RE: Portlanders are hopping mad at my Return of Kings article
haha there was some fat woman who tweeted Matt and said he must have a small dick, I replied saying that she confirmed everything written in Matt's article as she was fat.

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04-09-2013 07:34 AM
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RE: Portlanders are hopping mad at my Return of Kings article
Some of the weirdest people I've met came out of Oregon and Wisconsin. Complete social rejects. Must be the weather. The women I meet from Oregon are granola crunching dirt worshippers. It's safe to say you'll never see a trip report from me on the NW.

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04-09-2013 07:41 AM
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RE: Portlanders are hopping mad at my Return of Kings article
(04-08-2013 08:18 PM)Nonpareil Wrote:  'After I pick up some free-range couscous and non-gluten pancakes from Whole Foods, finish up with my LGBT-Transgender Homeless Literacy awareness group and torrent the new Owl City album, I'm gonna kick Matt Forney's ass!'
Lol. It's funny because all these people getting so mad and talking shit online wouldn't do a damn thing to Mark if he was reading his list in person. They wouldn't have the balls to get in his face and say he's fat. They wouldn't even have enough courage to get into an argument with him. Same with those Toronto idiots and Roosh. Blackhawk is completely right. I guess a hipster might get drunk, try to throw PBR on you and take off on his vintage bike or something.
04-09-2013 07:54 AM
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RE: Portlanders are hopping mad at my Return of Kings article
(04-09-2013 07:34 AM)bojangles Wrote:  haha there was some fat woman who tweeted Matt and said he must have a small dick, I replied saying that she confirmed everything written in Matt's article as she was fat.

What's your username? Or did you use the 3 Bromigos one?

Go be fat on someone else's time.
04-09-2013 08:50 AM
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