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Lima (Miraflores) Data Sheet
Lima is the capital of Peru with a population of about 9 million. It is the major business center of Peru and it is growing rapidly as people from the rest of Peru are moving to Lima for economic opportunity, so you can meet girls from all over the country without leaving Lima.

Weather: Lima is situated on the Pacific Ocean with the Humboldt current just off the coast, so the weather is generally between 12-25C, with mostly cool overcast conditions near the water and much warmer and sunnier as you move inland. It almost never rains in Lima, leading to some parts of the city looking dirty.

Currency: Nuevo Sol - current exchange rate US$1 = 2.80 soles

Dress: In Miraflores and the beach areas it is common to see young men wearing shorts, t shirts, and flip flops, but the general dress for men is pants or jeans, button down or t shirt, and closed toed shoes.

Language: Spanish. In Miraflores and San Isidro you are likely to find English spoken (or at least understood), but still not much.

Where to go:

Most visitors go straight to Miraflores, one of the nicest parts of town catering to upscale Peruvians and tourists. If you are coming for a visit this where you will find nice hotels, good restaurants, a wide selection of nightclubs, and many girls hoping to meet foreign guys. There are as many police as people here, so you can walk around safely pretty much any hour of the day. For day game you can concentrate on Av. Diagonal from the beach up Av. Arequipa through San Isidro and Lince and on to the Parque de la Reserva in Lima. This is the main street from Miraflores to downtown Lima, with many restaurants, shops, and English instruction schools full of young women wanting to practice English with a native speaker.

Where to stay:

There are nice hotels in Miraflores, but if you are planning on having women visit a much better plan is to rent a short term apartment. There is a lot of prostitution in Lima so many hotels will not allow women to visit your room, or if they do they charge as much as a $20 fee for visitors. Also, a lot of women will not go to your hotel room because they are concerned about their reputation and don't want to be thought of as a prostitute. You can find a wide selection of short term apartment rentals on Craigslist or by doing a search on Google.

Where to eat:

If you like seafood you will love Lima. The most popular dish is cebiche, a raw fish dish (plus octopus in the mixto version) "cooked" in lime juice with onions, corn, pepper, and topped with yuyo seaweed. It might not sound good, but it is incredible and when in Lima I visit as many cebicherias as I can to enjoy the variations. It is fresh caught in the morning and best eaten before 1pm, and never eat it in the afternoon. There are also great restaurants all over Miraflores for regional cuisine, from the gourmet Astrid y Gaston to local hole in the wall restaurants. The best way to find them is to ask locals for recommendations or look for busy restaurants as you walk around the city. Believe it or not, for the girls who don't have a lot of money a meal at KFC or McDonalds can be a big deal. Best to ask where she wants to go, you might be surprised.

Cell Phones

If you are going to be in town to meet girls you will need a cell phone. You can get a cheap Claro phone for under $30 or bring an unlocked GSM phone and buy a chip for about $6. Every girl here has a phone but they never have credit, so it is normal for a girl to call you and then hang up before you answer. She is expecting you to call back and pay for the call. Women here will look through your phone for evidence of other girls, so any time you don't have the phone in your pocket and a girl is around make sure it is locked so she can't snoop.

Transportation

There are a million buses and minibuses that will take you anywhere you want to go between .60 cents and $2, but they are kind of difficult to figure out if you don't know the street names where you are going. These buses are great for seeing pretty girls though, and in the non-peak travel times you can find a seat next to a cutie and say 'hi'.There are also a million taxis, and anywhere you want to go should be less than $2.50 in Miraflores up to $3 or $4 to go somewhere outside of Miraflores like Barranco or downtown Lima.

The Women

Peruanas are awesome. They are generally very sweet and rarely have bitch shields or anything so you never have to game them hardcore. Peruvian girls are not engaged in some war of the sexes. They want a man just like you want a woman. It's not about conquering her, it's about packaging yourself nicely so she will take you.

American television shows are popular here so people from the US are particularly well-thought of, but any foreigner is going to get a warm reception. A lot of the girls working in the restaurants and shops are from poor neighborhoods outside of Miraflores and are open to meeting a nice foreign guy. They don't have any money so just taking her out to eat or to a movie or dancing will be a nice treat for her. It is like another world here where nice guys win.

The looks range from the heavy indigenous look from the Southeast to the mixed mestizo look to the tall green eyed beauties that you (rarely) see in some of the richer neighborhoods. The girls are generally short with long black hair and dark eyes, and just like everywhere, the average ones aren't that hot. However, a little time walking around should put you in contact with some really pretty girls, and occasionally even some stunners.

Where to Find Women

Daytime/Late Afternoon
  • Parque Kennedy, the main park in Miraflores
  • The tourist malls on Petit Thouars and shops around Miraflores for chatting up the sales clerks
  • Around the language schools on Av. Arequipa from Miraflores up through Lince
  • The beach at the end of Av. Diagonal in the summer (Jan-March)
  • The Malecon from Barranco all the way to San Isidro has parks with girls hanging out, rollerblading, riding bicycles, etc.
  • The park at Larco Mar and the Parque del Amor have a lot of people hanging out in the afternoons and on the weekends
  • The hostels scattered throughout Miraflores and Barranco. Some have bars and pool tables and such and you can meet local girls who hang out hoping to meet tourists, or you can meet other tourists to go out and party, or to pick up tourist girls for yourself.
  • Calle de las Pizzas - there are bars with beer specials after 4pm or so and girls will stop by with friends after work or come looking to make new friends

Nightclubs

I don't go out much to the clubs so I can't give any details, but on Calle de las Pizzas (Pizza Street) in Miraflores there are a bunch of discos and bars that are packed on Friday and Saturday night until 4am or so. There is everything from standard dance music to Cuban Salsa to Brazilian whatever. Peruvian girls love to dance, so if you can dance just go into a club and if you see a girl you like sitting at a table go up and ask her to dance, she probably will.

There is a really upscale disco in Larco Mar at the end of Larco by the ocean where rich girls from Lima and not-so-rich girls hoping to meet rich foreigners go, so if you are looking for white looking Peruanas who speak some English that should be a great spot to find them. Also there are a lot of private clubs run out of old mansions and in warehouses in Miraflores and Barranco. I went to a couple of parties at these places but I was brought by friends and don't have any idea how to get in to them.

And also there is Barranco, about 15 minutes from Miraflores in a taxi, with a really good nightclub district all in one street. Barranco is popular with younger people and backpackers and such so you should have no trouble finding hot younger women. Beer is pretty cheap and the girls love to drink so it is a great party spot for sure. A couple of blocks away past the center of Barranco there is a mansion with high stone walls and on weekend nights there are big parties on the lawn with DJs and videos projected on the building. The people tend to hang out in big groups of friends but it is easy to mingle. I can't remember the address but you can ask around in Barranco and somebody should know how to get there.

Paid Options

It makes it way easier to relax when you are trying to pick up knowing that no matter what if you want to get laid that night you are going to get laid. So in case you strike out with girls in the street and in the discos, Lima has a bunch of options to pay for sex. The options run from baños turcos, where you can hang out in a spa then get a massage and a tugjob, to escorts, brothels, streetwalkers, and even strip clubs with hot strippers you can either enjoy for a while in a room on the premises or you can take back to your place for the night. Prices range from $15 up to $300 or more, depending on where you go.
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Nice data sheet. The Larco Mar place sounds interesting. I was in Lima years ago but it sounds like it hasn't changed. As a tall white dude with light hair color, Lima was one of easiest places in the world for me to pick up. In Lima, you can pick girls up at night in discotecas or bars. You can pick girls up in the day time at the park, mall, or beach.
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(04-07-2011 03:46 PM)The Duke Wrote:  Nice data sheet. The Larco Mar place sounds interesting. I was in Lima years ago but it sounds like it hasn't changed. As a tall white dude with light hair color, Lima was one of easiest places in the world for me to pick up. In Lima, you can pick girls up at night in discotecas or bars. You can pick girls up in the day time at the park, mall, or beach.

Thats precisely why Peru is next on my list after i get back from Colombia!
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Nice one Selva!

Could you also comment on the difference between girls in Lima vs Cuzco, in terms of looks, how easy/difficult they are etc.

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In Cusco it's pretty easy to get a girl, at the weekends the bars and clubs round Plaza De Arms (main square) are full of gringo hunting girls.
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Thanks for this data sheet. I'm planning on possibly hitting up Peru this summer.
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Im thinking of hitting Peru this june too. Anyone is going from here let me know.
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Thanks for writing the info! It will give me a good start.

I´m in Lima and i will stay a while. Anybody who searches for contacts, feel free to contact me!
I have a deep understanding of the game and i´m charismatic.
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^^^I am interested in heading there this summer. Great board, btw,
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Selva -

"Where to stay:

There are nice hotels in Miraflores, but if you are planning on having women visit a much better plan is to rent a short term apartment. There is a lot of prostitution in Lima so many hotels will not allow women to visit your room, or if they do they charge as much as a $20 fee for visitors. Also, a lot of women will not go to your hotel room because they are concerned about their reputation and don't want to be thought of as a prostitute. You can find a wide selection of short term apartment rentals on Craigslist or by doing a search on Google."

Which is the best neighborhood to stay in?

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I think most people stay in Moraflores, it's a safe neighbourhood.
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Here is a great map of Lima: http://guiacalles.com/calles/index.htm

For this data sheet I concentrated mostly on one street, Av. Arequipa, which runs from the center of downtown Lima south to Miraflores between Av. Diagonal and Av. Larco to the ocean.

In Miraflores you will find the best options. A huge selection of nice apartments in good buildings, well lit streets, lots of police, the beach, shopping, the parks, a wide variety of restaurants, and a nightclub district. It is also centrally located so any trips outside of Miraflores are easy.

Yesterday I saw the apartment building at Larcomar on the cliffs overlooking the ocean has a half dozen apartments for rent right now. Also, I have a friend here who has a penthouse for rent with a jacuzzi overlooking the ocean, so that would be an awesome place to hang out while in Lima. But really, just about anywhere you set up in Miraflores is going to rock.
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Guys' personal experiences can greatly influence their impression of a country. I generally found Peruanas easier to game than girls in most other Latin American countries I've visited and as such had a fucking ball there.

It's ridiculously easy to pull in Cusco, but many of the "gringo-hunters" are mediocre to ugly. If you want easy sex, head to any of the gringo-oriented clubs on the main square, but don't go expecting stunners to chat you up. To get better quality girls head to one of the less touristy places outside the city centre.

Girls in Cusco are far more indiginous looking than in Lima and while beauty is relative and all that, the indiginous look isnt for me. Most people in Lima are mestizo with minorities of indiginous folk, Afro-Peruvians and whiter people of mostly Spanish descent. Overall there are less hotties than in Brazil for example, but a lot of the middle class girls in Lima are hot as fuck. They're also good fun, sweet natured and - at least in my experience - a little less mental than some other Latinas.
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(04-28-2011 07:25 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Selva -

"Where to stay:

There are nice hotels in Miraflores, but if you are planning on having women visit a much better plan is to rent a short term apartment. There is a lot of prostitution in Lima so many hotels will not allow women to visit your room, or if they do they charge as much as a $20 fee for visitors. Also, a lot of women will not go to your hotel room because they are concerned about their reputation and don't want to be thought of as a prostitute. You can find a wide selection of short term apartment rentals on Craigslist or by doing a search on Google."

Which is the best neighborhood to stay in?

I stayed in both Miraflores and Barranco (one weekend each), and much preferred Barranco. It is older (it was originally an affluent suburb of Lima developed around the end of the 19th century, I believe) and the neighborhood has more worn character and charm (it reminded me a bit of the fading beauty of buenos aires). It is still close to Miraflores and the nightlife there. There is a street with a bunch of bars, although they were young (under 21) and middle class, with the exception of a great place at the end of the street, a giant multi-floor wooden structure that is primarily a concert venue. Barranco is more bohemian; Miraflores is "new money" with a bit of a Miami Beach vibe (minus the talent). Miraflores also has a higher gringo concentration, which hits toxic levels around the main nightlife plaza.
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I need exact nightclubrecommendations for sunday, monday, tues, wednesday and thursay.

Anybody can help me out?
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Just to put things in perspective there is much more to Lima than just Miraflores, just like there is more to New York than midtown Manhattan. Same is true for nightlife and girls.

To put things in perspective there are around 50 districts in Lima, a lot of these have their own nightlife areas (often called "boulevard"), Miraflores and Barranco are the tip of the iceberg.

In the other areas, girls are often more indigenous looking and sometimes they also have more african blood ("morenas", often pretty hot). The more working class the area, the less girls are used to seeing gringos so this is something you should consider. Although there are less slutty gringo hunters ('bricheras') in these areas as well, it's your call. Some can be too dangerous though, I don't advice you go to the clubs in the Callao area (unless you know some locals from there.... but even then) or the San juan de Miraflores boulevard...

But you can go and check the Los Olivos boulevard it is pretty cool, I was in Lima in 2008-2009, and back then it was much cheaper than Miraflores or Barranco. Other places you can check are for example the salsa discos in Lince, lots of hot girls there, the discos in the La Marina avenue, next to the Plaza San Miguel (a bit sleazy), the Lima Center bars and disco (if you like rock and alternative stuff).


If you have a good spanish, a reasonable dancing level and don't look like you beg to be robbed , you can hit those places, especially if you are with locals. This is where I met most girls. Also when you ask a peruvian about where to go out, always try to understand his social class first. Some upper class limenos are scarred shitless to go and step a foot in some cool and relatively safe nightlife areas just because they are a bit more popular.

Also something that can be interesting is cumbia or salsa concerts, even better than nightclubs. Beware though, the ones that are outside and free are worthless, too family oriented, except if you have a good day game.
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Pulling in Peru is a f'ing cake walk. It's been awhile since I was there but here is the run down.

Cusco- Really easy to meet people bc the streets around the Plaza de Armas are filled with 20-25 year olds handing out flyers for restaurants and clubs. So it's easy to make friends with guys or girls while they are working. After their shifts they hit the bars in the Plaza de Armas.

Everyone asks what do Cusco girls look like. It don't matter. Most the skanks in Mama Africa or whatever place they hang now are not local. The are poor girls from other cities who come to Cusco to work as a waitress or hand out fliers. These skanks are all one night stand material some ok looking some pretty f'in hot. They all stay at the same cheap ass hostel on the top the stairs where peeps sell weed and coke. If you banged lots of girls DO NOT go in this hostel, I did and it was a huge mistake, everyone ONS I had the previous 2 weeks was using the free internet while I was with my newest notch. I was stoned out of my mind and had numerous extremely uncomfortable conversations. These birds are total skanks, they will tell you that they are in town for a few days, they're not, usually they come for months. So they are pulling down a lot of white weiner.
Local birds in Cusco hate these skanks and don't put out as quickly (obviously there are exception) and they go to different clubs/bars.

Arequipa will probably have a similar set up as Cusco.

Lima- hotter chicks, lighter skin, girls from all over the country as well.

Girls in Peru will eye ball f@ck you like the were trained by professional strippers. Man I miss that place.
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Yep Mama Africa and the other clubs in that square are the prime spots for picking up gringo hunters, I advise getting in a bit before midnight, the girls will be there but the hordes of other tourists from the nearbye hostels won't have turned up yet and you get first choice of the girls, around 1am when they are all in it's slim pickings as everyones already hooked up for the night.
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Excellent resource, thank you kindly sir
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Wonderful report Mr. Selva, Peru is now a top priority for my trip ........

Thank you oh thank you .....
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Sorry to rain on your parade Selva, but Lima is not paradise to ANY foreigner as you put it, only to WHITE foreigners who ate not black or Latino foreigners. Which is why it's so easy fir white men to get laid; any girl seen with a white foreigner goes up In status socially especially her peers. This is the total opposite of Colombia girls who are 7+ in looks; being seen with a white foreigner is social suicide among top models.

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(06-24-2011 02:22 PM)MiXX Wrote:  Sorry to rain on your parade Selva, but Lima is not paradise to ANY foreigner as you put it, only to WHITE foreigners who ate not black or Latino foreigners. Which is why it's so easy fir white men to get laid; any girl seen with a white foreigner goes up In status socially especially her peers. This is the total opposite of Colombia girls who are 7+ in looks; being seen with a white foreigner is social suicide among top models.

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I totally believe this. Every Peruvian woman I've met in the US is with a white man. I met this one Peruvian woman once that married this American white guy in a very short time. He was this total introverted nerd type. She said she married him because she wanted a baby with blue eyes. There's a LOT of self-hate issues in Peru in particular. So anyplace that's full of racial self-hate is easy for white dudes to tear it up. These women are trying to ethnically cleanse themselves. Funny how that shit works? Pizarro conquered the in Incas and set up this caste system where Indians were on the bottom and whites on top. So 500 years after his death, white PUAs have Pizarro to thank for all the pussy they're getting in Peru!
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(06-24-2011 02:22 PM)MiXX Wrote:  Sorry to rain on your parade Selva, but Lima is not paradise to ANY foreigner as you put it, only to WHITE foreigners who ate not black or Latino foreigners. Which is why it's so easy fir white men to get laid; any girl seen with a white foreigner goes up In status socially especially her peers. This is the total opposite of Colombia girls who are 7+ in looks; being seen with a white foreigner is social suicide among top models.

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Ha.

See this is what sometimes sucks for me.

I am not white enough for the Peruanas and not Latin enough for the Colombianas!

Looks like I have to stick to Miami Beach!

On a serious note, Mixx, which do you think is the best Latin Country for white Latin look?

(I know, I am now taking the whole race thing on here to ridiculous levels, but I figured Mixx is the man to ask).

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(05-09-2011 05:38 PM)Gringo Wrote:  Yep Mama Africa and the other clubs in that square are the prime spots for picking up gringo hunters, I advise getting in a bit before midnight, the girls will be there but the hordes of other tourists from the nearbye hostels won't have turned up yet and you get first choice of the girls, around 1am when they are all in it's slim pickings as everyones already hooked up for the night.

Wow. I didn't expect that many gringo's to be in Lima. Flashman mentioned it getting to "toxic" levels in this area, which apparently I'll avoid. Also, how much English is used down there by the locals?

Checkout the masculine gear thread. Always be prepared.
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Mixx,
I find quite interesting your comment about it being a suicide for models in Colombia to be with white guys. Could you elaborate and explain why that might be? I'm very curious about Colombia and would appreciate your feedback on it as you seem to know Colombia quite well.

Gracias compadre.
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