Post: #1

Hello,

I recently took a two week trip to Bogota, Colombia. I scored with two women while I was there. I wanted to share my experience with you guys, hopefully it might be helpful for some of you:

Strategy:

I had read Mixx's warning that tier 1 cities can be difficult for gringos, so I knew I had to be ready to for a fight going in. I decided to use colombiacupid to pipeline as many girls as I could before arriving. I took a template message and started spamming girls from the website, altering slightly for each girl. Leading up to the trip, I sent about 10 messages each day. When a girl replied, I chatted with her on skype and used a webcam to build rapport before meeting her. With enough work, I set up 4 dates in Colombia before I arrived.

Once in the country, I followed Arobin's advice and called each girl to confirm beforehand, so as to prevent getting stood up. I would then bounce a girl around between a few different places, and then if possible, take her back to my apartment. .

Girls:

I really liked the girls that I met in Bogota. They were really quite different from other girls that I had met in the 3rd world. I found them to be educated, intelligent, and they had their own professional careers and interests. But, they also were very feminine in their nature; they were willing to cook for me and acted more like girls than American women do. I think that the Bogota women were the best of both worlds- like American women, they are intelligent and educated with their own goals for life, but unlike American women, they are feminine and pleasant to be around. I even had one Bogota girl buy me dinner a couple times- I had never had that happen anywhere in the third world before. I never had the problem of being hit up for taxi money or any of the other BS like that. They were also very passionate in every good way possible.

Bogota is a great city to go to if you like White girls. They were mostly very light skinned, and they had pretty faces with deep brown eyes. And they had a lot of ass too.

Overall, I was really impressed with the quality of women in Bogota, both in terms of physically and in terms of spending time with them- I found most of them much more pleasant to be around than most American women.

Accommodations

I got an apartment in the Zona Rosa while I was in Bogotá. I remembered Mixx's warning that Colombian women will judge you by the quality of the neighborhood you are staying in, so I made sure to stay in a better quality neighborhood. The apartment was a great deal, it cost less than $100/night in a neighborhood where hotels went for over $200/night. Having an apartment also allowed for women to come over over and cook for me in my kitchen. I think the Zona Rosa worked out quite well, there were a lot of good place to take girls on dates nearby, and it was very safe.

The downside to staying in Zona Rosa was that the nightlife sucked for meeting people. I went out to some of the bars, but they were pretty much all tables with mixed groups sitting. I felt like taking girls on dates was a better use of my time. I was told it was easier to meet people in Candelaria, but that it was also more dangerous there.

I'm not sure how true it is that the Candelaria is dangerous, but most Colombians told me so, and sometimes perception is reality. I think there is more prestige associated with staying in the North.

VERY IMPORTANT- when looking for a place to stay, check what their policy is on having guests stay with you. A lot of the places that I found either did not allow unregistered guests or charged a huge fine for bringing an unregistered guest. You may feel awkward getting hotels and apartments to clarify their policy, but it's better that you find out in advance than find out when you are bringing someone back.

Language

I spoke conversational Spanish, and all of my dates were exclusively in Spanish. Very few people in Bogota speak English. I think you need to be able to hold a conversation in Spanish to consider going to Bogota.

Girl Maintenance

I would recommend anyone visiting Bogota to read Roosh's post, Girlfriend Cheating Guide: http://www.rooshv.com/girlfriend-cheating-tips

Even though the women there aren't your girlfriend, you still don't want to advertise the fact that you are seeing other women.

You should also generously tip the doormen to make sure they are on your side.

Communications

I bought an unlocked cell phone before going to Colombia, but when I arrived it broke, I couldn't recharge my cell. To deal with this I used Skype to talk with girls and set up dates. When I was a at the venue, I used my US cell phone to confirm she was coming and to help her find the place if need be.

Sightseeing

If you have been to Europe or Asia, Bogotá doesn't really stack up in terms of sightseeing attractions. The museums aren't as good as what you find in other countries. Monseratte was pretty cool with good views, and the hills East of Bogota made for a nice hike. I took a girl I met hiking with me in Chicaque National Park, which was pretty cool.


All in all, it was a very good trip. I read a lot of the information from you guys before I went- I think there really is a lot of good information on this site and if you use it you can be successful.

Post: #2

Good stuff Celtic-

Gotta love Mixx as your digital wingman. Using some tried and true advice from this forum, you made the best of a nice to trip to Bogota. Warms the cockles of my heart.

Gotta say about Candelaria though: while you definitely made the right decision staying in the T, Candelaria is really not that dangerous, and it is true that the nightlife is better there for meeting girls. Zona T is a bit standoffish, and people mix a hell of a lot more in Candelaria and Chapinero. Colombians are pretty paranoid about safety, much more than they need to be but considering the country's history I don't blame them.

Otherwise good all around advice. I think you pretty much nailed why I like Bogota and its ladies so much. Props.

Post: #3

Great report-

Did you find that the girls were receptive to the gringo? How does this place differ from Medellin as far as the chicas go?

Post: #4

Celtic

What about the club venues? Did you not go to any?

*EDIT*

NM i see where u mentioned u went to some bars. Should have went to some reggeatton clubs. None of that tables and closed off sets. Grls would have been younger and more approachable imo.

Post: #5

Did you have any luck with day or night game, or did you exclusively rely on internet?

It sounds like your internet pipeline paid off and you didn't need to approach much while there.

Post: #6

(08-25-2011 12:36 AM)Celtic Wrote:  I really liked the girls that I met in Bogota. They were really quite different from other girls that I had met in the 3rd world. I found them to be educated, intelligent, and they had their own professional careers and interests. But, they also were very feminine in their nature; they were willing to cook for me and acted more like girls than American women do. I think that the Bogota women were the best of both worlds- like American women, they are intelligent and educated with their own goals for life, but unlike American women, they are feminine and pleasant to be around. I even had one Bogota girl buy me dinner a couple times- I had never had that happen anywhere in the third world before. I never had the problem of being hit up for taxi money or any of the other BS like that. They were also very passionate in every good way possible.

Celtic, I know what you mean. Maybe times are changing in Colombia (of course change is inevitable), but I met three different women during my recent trip to Colombia who had brains and didn't have their hands out.

I met one in Bogota who was very educated and has her own money. And she treated me out a couple of times for lunch, coffee, etc.

I met one in Bucaramanga who is broke. She has a very low paying job, but she is going to school for accounting and she never asked me for a dime or anything else. She even scraped up some change to surprise me with a small bottle of rum and other small gifts.

And I met another cutie in Bucaramanga who has a good job and she's in school to obtain more degrees.

I have to watch out for the one in Bogota. I'm just starting my overseas travels and I ain't trying to fall in love before I slay a bunch of latinas throughout central & south america.

In the U.S. she would get hit on all the time. By Colombian standards, I give her maybe a 7 in looks but man she is fuckin intelligent, funny, has money and has a bunch of goals.

Post: #7

Hey!!!! Anybody who falls in love should BANNED from this forum! I don't need that shit spreading like Anthrax around here!

I hope nobody ever blames me for falling in love with a latina as a result of information I gave them or I'll hunt you down!



Same should go for anyone coming here looking for advice on how to find a wife, or "intellectual" women to have as GF's - BARF!!

No maa'm on love and all that other beta shit I'm against!

Grrrrrrrr

Mixx

Post: #8

Ha haaaa that's funny. I got my force field up man, I can' t let love creep in here. I'm on a mission. I just got out of a long relationship and recently earned my freedom from the day job.

It's party time!!!!!!!!!!

Post: #9

Hey Mixx!! Have you ever tried a matchmaking service in Colombia? They promise honest, caring, non-flaky, women looking for love and marriage. I think this is the best way to travel to Colombia. Saves all that hassle and tassle of cold approaching, pipe-lining, or getting wrapped up with girls of questionable character looking for a passport. It's time you man up Mixx and get a wife that'll make an honest man outta ya! Jajajajaja.

Post: #10

Great report! I agreed that in general Bogota women or "rolas" as they are known are in general more educated and most have a job (Bogota is not a cheap city so they have something going for themselves). Tipping the doormen is great advice ;-)

Jarocho

Post: #11

(08-25-2011 12:12 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  Hey Mixx!! Have you ever tried a matchmaking service in Colombia? They promise honest, caring, non-flaky, women looking for love and marriage.

I'm a silent partner for 3 of these agencies in Colombia. No joke! (no, I'm not disclosing them)

Don't worry; for the money gringos pay to marry one of these girls, they have to pass rigorous Quality Assurance and Stress Testing "protocols".

I assure you all my girls are freaks in bed, if not, I re-train her for you until she is the freak in bed you dreamed of.


Mixx

Post: #12

(08-25-2011 12:36 AM)Celtic Wrote:  Girls:

I really liked the girls that I met in Bogota. They were really quite different from other girls that I had met in the 3rd world. I found them to be educated, intelligent, and they had their own professional careers and interests. But, they also were very feminine in their nature; they were willing to cook for me and acted more like girls than American women do. I think that the Bogota women were the best of both worlds- like American women, they are intelligent and educated with their own goals for life, but unlike American women, they are feminine and pleasant to be around. I even had one Bogota girl buy me dinner a couple times- I had never had that happen anywhere in the third world before. I never had the problem of being hit up for taxi money or any of the other BS like that. They were also very passionate in every good way possible.

Seconded. I had a really, really good time getting to know the Bogotana that I met. Probably spent 20-22 hours over the course of two days running around the city, eating, drinking, dancing, and eventually banging before I had to leave for Santa Marta (she left my hostel 2 hours before my flight!). This particular girl was very attractive, intelligent, had a great sense of humor, and was incredibly sweet. What a shock to the system it was to return to the States and resume dating here. I keep in touch with her in the hopes we'll be able to rendezvous in the future.

Anyways, great write-up. I agree with nearly everything you wrote. Next time I'm there I'll be getting a private apartment in La Zona Rosa as opposed to staying in a gringo hostel.

Post: #13

(08-25-2011 01:58 PM)punjistick Wrote:  Next time I'm there I'll be getting a private apartment in La Zona Rosa as opposed to staying in a gringo hostel.

Do you have a connection for the apartment? I'm going back to Colombia next month and I'm thinking Bogota or Cali (haven't ruled out Baq or Cartagena) to stay for awhile. I need to stay stationary to take some spanish lessons and learn salsa.

Post: #14

(08-25-2011 02:09 PM)Tbone Wrote:  

(08-25-2011 01:58 PM)punjistick Wrote:  Next time I'm there I'll be getting a private apartment in La Zona Rosa as opposed to staying in a gringo hostel.

Do you have a connection for the apartment? I'm going back to Colombia next month and I'm thinking Bogota or Cali (haven't ruled out Baq or Cartagena) to stay for awhile. I need to stay stationary to take some spanish lessons and learn salsa.

I haven't used this site yet, but plan on doing so in the future: airbnb.com

224 listings in Bogota alone.

Post: #15

Dash:

Quote:NM i see where u mentioned u went to some bars. Should have went to some reggeatton clubs. None of that tables and closed off sets. Grls would have been younger and more approachable imo.

Thanks for the tip- did you have any success pulling from them?

Roosh:

Quote:Did you have any luck with day or night game, or did you exclusively rely on internet?

It sounds like your internet pipeline paid off and you didn't need to approach much while there.

I did a little approaching at the bars in Zona Rosa, but both of my lays were from internet game. I felt like the nightlife there wasn't very good for approaching and that the best use of my time at night was with dates.

Tbone/pjunjistick:

It's cool you had the same impression of Bogota girls that I did, that the were educated, classy and had good general personalities. It's definitely city I think I'll go back to- I think Bogota women rank at the top of any city I have ever been to in terms of desirable personalities/character.

Post: #16

Celtic what site were you on for online game?