(05-20-2009 03:07 PM)jmb Wrote:  Also, I am thinking of traveling in Bolivia for about a month or so in July. I was there about 5 years ago on a high school summer program so I didn't get to see much and have always wanted to go back. I know you may be a bit bias because of your stomach problems and the ugly women, but do you think its worth going if what I want to do is check out the huge markets, salt flats, mine tour, biking the death road, etc.? Are activities worth it or underwhelming?

I was in Bolivia a couple months ago. I was only there for several days to take the 4x4 trek from Chile to the salt flats in Uyuni and back. I think as far as natural wonders, Bolivia is incredible and totally worth it. I had a tough time there because of altitude sickness, but if I'd had time to acclimate I'm sure I would've really enjoyed it. I wouldn't mind going back to see more of Bolivia, it's a really interesting place and so different from other S. American countries.

jmb: The salt flat and mine tour are very worth it.. IF YOU DON'T GET SICK. If you get sick then no it's not worth it.

Unfortunately, getting sick in Bolivia is a virtual certainty. If not food doesn't get you, the altitude will. Only way around that maybe is to just go to stores and buy your own food that you make yourself. Can goods like canned tuna and vegetables should always be a safe bet. That's probably what I will do if I'm back there again.

I ended up traveling in Bolivia for around 3 weeks and have some mixed feelings about the country. No, I did not get sick at all save for the first few days with minor altitude sickness. The country obviously has a ton to offer with some of the most spectacular activities like the salt flats, jungle, mine, la paz itself, etc. I really thought that traveling in Bolivia was worth it for things like that alone.

On the other hand, the country and its people are just horrible to deal with. I would describe the country as "businessly challenged". Honestly, its no wonder Bolivia is so poor. Service is beyond horrible and most things are so disorganized. For example, I waited at a cafe for two hours before being shown a menu (i didnt mind b/c i was only there for the view), my flight out of the jungle was delayed 3-4 days (not b/c of the weather) and had to run around La Paz to many different places before getting my refund, they canceled the Daddy Yankee concert in every city but La Paz and then the hour of the concert they canceled it too, etc. I could go on and on. Worst of all, I was sexually harassed by some middle aged Bolivian man on the bus to the border to get out of Bolivia (he was literally groping me while I was nearly asleep).

One last thing. Its sooooooo cold there!

"I waited at a cafe for two hours before being shown a menu"

Wow.

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Come on, Roosh, you've been in Colombia for what, about 4 months now? We need a verdict. Honestly, I'd like to see a REALLY well done detailed report on the 'girl situation' in Colombia. How hot are they? How sensual/sexy are they? How good in bed are they? How EASY are they (big one there)? Also very important: how does it compare to Brazil? I've been teaching myself Spanish for over 2 years now and you've got me wondering if I should switch to Brazilian Portuguese (very similar to Spanish, so it should be really easy for me to pick up--I've had a Brazilian tell me that they can understand Spanish if it's not spoken too fast, and vice-versa from a Spanish-speaker about Brazilian Portuguese, that's how similar they are).

Brazilians can understand Spanish--to a certain degree--if it's spoken slowly, but good luck understanding Brazilian Portuguese EVEN if you're fluent in Spanish. Its pronunciation is very different.

My advice: learn Spanish and Portuguese. That way all your bases are covered.

(08-02-2009 07:28 PM)jmb Wrote:  I ended up traveling in Bolivia for around 3 weeks and have some mixed feelings about the country. No, I did not get sick at all save for the first few days with minor altitude sickness. The country obviously has a ton to offer with some of the most spectacular activities like the salt flats, jungle, mine, la paz itself, etc. I really thought that traveling in Bolivia was worth it for things like that alone.

On the other hand, the country and its people are just horrible to deal with. I would describe the country as "businessly challenged". Honestly, its no wonder Bolivia is so poor. Service is beyond horrible and most things are so disorganized. For example, I waited at a cafe for two hours before being shown a menu (i didnt mind b/c i was only there for the view), my flight out of the jungle was delayed 3-4 days (not b/c of the weather) and had to run around La Paz to many different places before getting my refund, they canceled the Daddy Yankee concert in every city but La Paz and then the hour of the concert they canceled it too, etc. I could go on and on. Worst of all, I was sexually harassed by some middle aged Bolivian man on the bus to the border to get out of Bolivia (he was literally groping me while I was nearly asleep).

One last thing. Its sooooooo cold there!

Interesting report!

Bolivia was cool. I was only there for 10 days, but the people were real cool and the girls are pretty cool and hot as well. The altitude was a little rough, but drink some Coca tea / or chew the leaves and take a "Sirachi Pill" and you will be ok.

If you go to the more country areas of Bolivia yes, it is a little backwards I'll admit.

JMB...you should have fucked that dude up bro!

(08-18-2009 07:22 PM)Shaman Wrote:  Come on, Roosh, you've been in Colombia for what, about 4 months now? We need a verdict. Honestly, I'd like to see a REALLY well done detailed report on the 'girl situation' in Colombia. How hot are they? How sensual/sexy are they? How good in bed are they? How EASY are they (big one there)? Also very important: how does it compare to Brazil? I've been teaching myself Spanish for over 2 years now and you've got me wondering if I should switch to Brazilian Portuguese (very similar to Spanish, so it should be really easy for me to pick up--I've had a Brazilian tell me that they can understand Spanish if it's not spoken too fast, and vice-versa from a Spanish-speaker about Brazilian Portuguese, that's how similar they are).

I've been in Colombia for ten years now...verdict: Go. However, if you want easy girls, Colombia may not be for you. You must prove social status, and everything I've already mentioned in previous posts.

TIP: If you want easy lays - that's what you have the United States for man! No girls are easier than a college white girl laying her tight ass on the beaches of Miami and Fort Lauderdale on "laycation". Or walking the malls of New York City, or waiting for her train at a station sucking on a lollipop (LL cool J reference).

Heck, I'm banging a 20 yo all-american blond girl tonight from Alabama I met on the beach just yesterday - using my Frisbee routine with my Doberman Pincher (4 months old) =)


In Colombia, you have to game girls - period, and in their local slang too. Unless you are an incredibly good looking guy with Vin Diesel looks - you will have to pound the streets hard and pay your dues until you build a nice harem of Latinas to bang on a regular basis - ESPECIALLY in the metro Cities of Medellin, Bogota, and Cali where peer approval of you are so important!!!

BTW - I am the biggest advocate of Colombia you will ever meet - still, easy lays are in the good ole USA, not South America (with Honduras, Panama and Costa Rica being the exception - these countries are a major fuck-fest).

I speak both Spanish and Portuguese Fluently - how do they compare? that's a matter of taste compadre...I for one, bang more brazilian girls in Miami, than I do in Brazil! Yet, bang more Colombianas in Colombia than I do in Miami....go figure.

mixxmaster, how do colombians respond to professionals say doctors or lawyers. Would that be enough social proof to be respected or does it still take alot of time to break into their social groups.

(04-24-2010 05:03 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  mixxmaster, how do colombians respond to professionals say doctors or lawyers. Would that be enough social proof to be respected or does it still take alot of time to break into their social groups.

middle, middle-high and high class girls won't find too much of social proof if you are a doctor or lawyer, because those professions are all too common and not necessarily meaning you do make money.

In South America if you are one of those professionals does not carry the same amount of respect as in the US.

Money can be important, but much more important as social proof in spanish speaking America is Who you know, who are your friends and with whom and where you usually hang out. Much more than money or which profession you have.

(04-25-2010 12:09 AM)lilactag Wrote:  

(04-24-2010 05:03 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  mixxmaster, how do colombians respond to professionals say doctors or lawyers. Would that be enough social proof to be respected or does it still take alot of time to break into their social groups.

middle, middle-high and high class girls won't find too much of social proof if you are a doctor or lawyer, because those professions are all too common and not necessarily meaning you do make money.

In South America if you are one of those professionals does not carry the same amount of respect as in the US.

Money can be important, but much more important as social proof in spanish speaking America is Who you know, who are your friends and with whom and where you usually hang out. Much more than money or which profession you have.

Exactly! I personally know a heart surgeon, who comes to Medellin and struggles to meet women higher than a 7. Being a doctor, lawyer gives you status with the lower class barrio girls for sure.

But, if you are a photographer of a local modeling studio, or own a bar in parquet lleras, or a good friends with the concert promoters who bring Marc Anthony or a famous DJ from Europe to Medellin, or the best one I've seen, have connections with local TV stations to make her the next weather girl. You are in.

It's kind of stupid to see what these Colombian women value. Sadly, a medical PHD will never carry more social and bang value than a photographer for Studio F magazine.

(04-24-2010 04:05 PM)MiXXmaster27 Wrote:  In Colombia, you have to game girls - period, and in their local slang too. Unless you are an incredibly good looking guy with Vin Diesel looks - you will have to pound the streets hard and pay your dues until you build a nice harem of Latinas to bang on a regular basis - ESPECIALLY in the metro Cities of Medellin, Bogota, and Cali where peer approval of you are so important!!!

Mixx is so fucking right here I just need to give an eye witness account that what he is saying is true.

For the week Mixx was down here chillin in Cali a few weeks back, I think he was doing like 10+ approaches a day. He was getting laid a lot for it. Its all about how bad you want it.

I do approach a lot more than the average cat, and get results with hot chicks...but still I learned a few things with Mixx. He said something like "The only bad approach is the approach you didnt make". Real talk.

"The only bad approach is the approach you didnt make". Real talk.
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i like that... you either have balls or you dont

You guys are right, a little game is necessary really anywhere. BUT..its a different kind of game in South America. Since most of us on this forum are North American, we have that viewpoint where having a certain type of game is a necessity. Many American girls just put up a wall and its really all a front so you have to break that barrier to get to them. South American girls are more receptive to a little softer approach from a gringo, you push too much or act too alouf, then she might just think you are rich dbag with a bad attitude (they always assume you have money btw)

I disagree about the status thing though Mixx..I mean if you are talking about a hot Colombiana that is 18? Yes she would be interested in the dude who is a club promoter or photographer etc. Same for really anywhere, because at 18-20 they are not really thinking marriage yet usually...however a worthwhile Colombiana with very good looks and some class, probably in her mid 20's would be more interested in the MD's PHD's and Lawyers etc.

North American game vs. South American game is like night and day.

I've been in BR for over a year, and in addition to talking to B girls, I've also been exposed to Peruvians, Mexicans, etc.

It's a big difference.