Post: #11376

(07-27-2014 04:04 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 02:11 PM)Rico Suave Wrote:  I wanted to do the hangover experience with McQueen to see what he was really about. I would of laughed in his face if he tried to play me for a fool and told him his face is going to look like a shovel hit it if he refused to refund me.

Rico

You seen like a tough guy.... And a troll.

I like the name, Rico Suave, but this post and the other posts from this "member" seem to add little to NO value and merely just bait other posters. Rico may need to go back and review the forum rules in order to save himself from himself, in the event that he wants to be saved?

Post: #11377

And he got banned. That was quickly.

Post: #11378

Christian McQueen has been caught out for plagiarism (something Roosh has just called Tucker Max out for), and it seems to be backed up by evidence that he has. However it seems he's been given a pass in some respect, as it's been swept under the carpet.

I'm sure he's legit in terms of his lifestyle and so on, and I'm fairly positive he has better night game than I, or many people on here. At least in terms of the lifestyle he's proven pictorially he lives. However, it's a bit strange that Vincent Vinturi got pasted for something that turned out to be wrong, and this CMQ stuff hasn't really got a mention.

Post: #11379

(07-27-2014 06:54 PM)Teedub Wrote:  Christian McQueen has been caught out for plagiarism (something Roosh has just called Tucker Max out for), and it seems to be backed up by evidence that he has. However it seems he's been given a pass in some respect, as it's been swept under the carpet.

I'm sure he's legit in terms of his lifestyle and so on, and I'm fairly positive he has better night game than I, or many people on here. At least in terms of the lifestyle he's proven pictorially he lives. However, it's a bit strange that Vincent Vinturi got pasted for something that turned out to be wrong, and this CMQ stuff hasn't really got a mention.

Just leave it as is. It's water under the bridge.

Post: #11380

(07-27-2014 03:44 AM)RoadKill503 Wrote:  @Moma: "How long you been taking zinc for? What doses and what intervals? Tell me results"

I've been doing 250mg a day after breakfast four weeks on, one week off. =

Dude, you're taking 250mg a day of zinc?

This is f'ing crazy! You're setting yourself up for zinc poisoning, copper deficiency, and a world of trouble.

DO NOT TAKE THIS DOSAGE -- it's pure insanity! Jeez.

You don't need more than 35mg of zinc a day. Even 50mg a day is really stretching it and it's unnecessary. But 250? Damn.

And please for the love of God, use Optizinc or some other formulation that has copper in the right proportion. Really Optizinc is the way to go:

http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-Opt...blets/1361

Just take **1** of these bad boyz daily with a meal and you're set. You may pop **a few** -- as in, two or three -- on special occasions if you feel like blowing an extra special load in a particularly luscious hole. But that's got to be occasional.

DO NOT take 250mg of zinc!!

Post: #11381

I hope this post doesn't get retitled "Dagonet's Meltdown"

There are a lot of accusations and criticisms being thrown around, so I'm gonna throw in my two cents. First of all, anyone who attains success-- on this forum or elsewhere-- is going to attract haters. So for everyone shitting on McQueen now that it's "safe" to because he's not here to defend himself, carry on. There were just as many (if not more) people who criticized G Manifesto, called him a fraud, fake, etc. and he never met anyone in the Manosphere, as far as I can tell.

First of all, McQueen left by his own request. He and Roosh did have a difference of opinions in private, but he was already accepting a new job writing for a different website, and knew it would likely mean withdrawing from Return of Kings. Secondly, we have a new website we're building to host the podcast, and we might do a (very cheap) subscription model, new rollout, etc. so it doesn't seem appropriate to be promoting/selling that here on the forum anymore. When it was free, that was one thing, and we really do appreciate everyone who listened and interacted with us through that. The thread has almost 100,000 views, and we hope everyone will continue to get a lot of enjoyment and value out of the podcast in the future. I'm personally not leaving the forum, we just closed that thread.

There are a few different conversations going on at once, but I'll try to address some of the more ridiculous points. McQueen has reached out to and met many members of this forum and has shown loyalty and generosity to them. Just about all of them can (and do) vouch for him, the fact that he DOES have game, is VERY intelligent, and essentially lives the lifestyle and ideals that he represents online.

Secondly, there is a really strong anti-monetization mentality around here, which I understand. And Roosh has actually been an inspiring example in the sense that he will never sacrifice his quality and content to make a few extra bucks. However, that is also PART of his business model (ensuring continued high quality and not beating us over the head with monetization). Roosh definitely makes enough to live comfortably off of, and yet everyone considers McQueen (and I've also seen this accusation recently leveled at MikeCF) a snake-oil-selling "internet marketing" huckster, trying to take advantage of people.

No one here is making you buy McQueen's books. He was 2nd only to Roosh in rep points on this forum, if I'm not mistaken, so clearly he has contributed a lot of value for FREE. You don't get that by paying an Indian dude on Fiver to create "internet marketing" articles for you, and neither do you come out with 5 posts a week on your blog and write lyrical pieces like "Enjoy The Seduction" if Rajiv in Mumbai (or any other ghost writer, for that matter) is doing your stuff for you. I know McQueen personally, and I know for a FACT that he treats his blog and his books like a full-time job, and spends hours each week writing his posts. He's been criticized because of some overlap with other "internet marketers," but there's a difference between plagiarism (and the blatant bullshit that a lot of wannabes put out), and using a pre-existing list of IOI's in one post or a phrase like "build a winning mindset" that everyone writing about self-improvement uses. Myself and other Manosphere writers, as well as tons of McQueen's readers, can attest to the fact that he has an original voice and perspective, and he puts out tons of great original content each week. He's not "ripping it off" anymore than any of us who have studied, learned, and lived, and then put our knowledge into our own writing.

By the way, we've also given our time for FREE to record 21 episodes of our podcast, which many of you have enjoyed and maybe even benefitted from. Is that "bullshit marketing"? We don't do that shit for our health, we do it because it's an extension of our blogs and the things we enjoy discussing. Listen to our podcasts and then say that McQueen is a "fraud." I'm not even sure what that means, in this context.

It's fair game to criticize McQueen, disagree with his advice, shit on his writing, etc. But just a week ago everyone was giving him props for having the balls to become more open and start posting actual pictures of himself to reinforce the things he's talking about. As soon as they saw any "weakness" with him leaving the forum/ROK, all these haters came out of the woodwork to start belittling him, and it honestly has gotten out of hand. Give credit where credit is due.

Post: #11382

If McQueen isn't posting here anymore, it's a loss.

Whenever I get around to it, he's the dude I want to show me Vegas. Can't wait.

Post: #11383

Dagonet puts a good bookend on this topic. McQueen has moved on, I've moved on, and now it's time for the forum to move on. You can use the PM system to discuss this topic among interested parties, but this type of conversation is not suitable for the lounge thread. I don't want to give temp suspensions for those who continue to hijack it. This isn't the place.

Post: #11384

Just had my first meal since I got back to America

Chipotle steak burrito bowl with tortilla on the side

It's the little things in life

Post: #11385

Still want to hear El "she invited me to go to a b-day party with her and I told her she had to come to my house while I shower" Mechanico do a podgecast.

Post: #11386

(07-28-2014 01:55 AM)soup Wrote:  Still want to hear El "she invited me to go to a b-day party with her and I told her she had to come to my house while I shower" Mechanico do a podgecast.

Yes. I'm looking forward to that, as well.

Post: #11387

Shit just hit the fan .I have to go on a trip to india. Dads forcing me to go and i am in no real postion to get out YET. Just my luck just when the women here in stockholm are starting to pop out and i am starting to get on a roll ,i have to go to freaking india one of the most backwards country in the world.

Post: #11388

Just took my final, got 100% and got rejected by going for a girl's digits. Feels like a Seinfield episode.

Post: #11389

(07-28-2014 08:35 AM)KC4 Wrote:   Shit just hit the fan .I have to go on a trip to india. Dads forcing me to go and i am in no real postion to get out YET. Just my luck just when the women here in stockholm are starting to pop out and i am starting to get on a roll ,i have to go to freaking india one of the most backwards country in the world.

Why be so negative? Sounds like a good thing, especially if daddy is paying for it.

Post: #11390

(07-28-2014 01:31 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 08:35 AM)KC4 Wrote:   Shit just hit the fan .I have to go on a trip to india. Dads forcing me to go and i am in no real postion to get out YET. Just my luck just when the women here in stockholm are starting to pop out and i am starting to get on a roll ,i have to go to freaking india one of the most backwards country in the world.

Why be so negative? Sounds like a good thing, especially if daddy is paying for it.

You've never been to India have you? The majority of the country is an industrial or rural shithole(imagine the worst of both combined) , you can't eat out because have food is guaranteed to give you diarrhea, frequent power outages, nothing to do, rude locals(people will piss in the same urinal at the same time, shit on the floor, and all manner of disgusting things), terrible night life, and the amount of Bangable girls in certain sections of he country are close to nill. I have visited twice due to some unfortunate circumstances and never plan to go back.

Post: #11391

India is a shit hole GAME wise but if you were to see ans go to the right places it could be pretty sweet

I probably should yeah it just that I have so many bad memories from here . Ok i might do a half assed data sheet depending on which city i go to

Post: #11392

Bring a mini-relationship harem girl (make her pay her ticket of course) and learn the Kamasutra from the Indian gurus, sounds like a good move.

Post: #11393

I love getting my daily afternoon 30 min roosh update on the toilet

Post: #11394

(07-28-2014 02:42 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  I love getting my daily afternoon 30 min roosh update on the toilet

You spend 30 mins on the toilet?!

Post: #11395

I, too, get the RVF toilet update.

I can attest to the 30 min timeline.

Post: #11396

(07-28-2014 02:03 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 01:31 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 08:35 AM)KC4 Wrote:   Shit just hit the fan .I have to go on a trip to india. Dads forcing me to go and i am in no real postion to get out YET. Just my luck just when the women here in stockholm are starting to pop out and i am starting to get on a roll ,i have to go to freaking india one of the most backwards country in the world.

Why be so negative? Sounds like a good thing, especially if daddy is paying for it.

You've never been to India have you? The majority of the country is an industrial or rural shithole(imagine the worst of both combined) , you can't eat out because have food is guaranteed to give you diarrhea, frequent power outages, nothing to do, rude locals(people will piss in the same urinal at the same time, shit on the floor, and all manner of disgusting things), terrible night life, and the amount of Bangable girls in certain sections of he country are close to nill. I have visited twice due to some unfortunate circumstances and never plan to go back.

Definitely, you make good points about possible ways to look at the situation.

You are correct that I have NEVER been; however, you would be incorrect if you were to conclude that I have NOT experienced various trying circumstances in my life.

Accordingly, my point, in part was to try to figure out why a person would want to look at a circumstance so negatively - except maybe if the circumstance was a long-term expectation. Also, we were NOT presented with enough details to really understand how dire the potential would be.

I have heard from several people about having good experiences in India, so maybe the kind of experience, whether negative or positive, depends upon the context, the city, and whether a person has already been to that location.

I personally do NOT have any plans in the near future to go to India; however, if I was told that my expenses were being paid to go there.. I would certainly perk up about the possibility and attempt to consider positive aspects.. or possible ways that I could benefit.... If I am NOT being held prisoner or being tortured, then worst case scenario would be that I would have to bring a few books to read or some other kind of work to occupy my time. .. .

Post: #11397

(07-28-2014 03:13 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 02:03 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 01:31 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 08:35 AM)KC4 Wrote:   Shit just hit the fan .I have to go on a trip to india. Dads forcing me to go and i am in no real postion to get out YET. Just my luck just when the women here in stockholm are starting to pop out and i am starting to get on a roll ,i have to go to freaking india one of the most backwards country in the world.

Why be so negative? Sounds like a good thing, especially if daddy is paying for it.

You've never been to India have you? The majority of the country is an industrial or rural shithole(imagine the worst of both combined) , you can't eat out because have food is guaranteed to give you diarrhea, frequent power outages, nothing to do, rude locals(people will piss in the same urinal at the same time, shit on the floor, and all manner of disgusting things), terrible night life, and the amount of Bangable girls in certain sections of he country are close to nill. I have visited twice due to some unfortunate circumstances and never plan to go back.

Definitely, you make good points about possible ways to look at the situation.

You are correct that I have NEVER been; however, you would be incorrect if you were to conclude that I have NOT experienced various trying circumstances in my life.

Accordingly, my point, in part was to try to figure out why a person would want to look at a circumstance so negatively - except maybe if the circumstance was a long-term expectation. Also, we were NOT presented with enough details to really understand how dire the potential would be.

I have heard from several people about having good experiences in India, so maybe the kind of experience, whether negative or positive, depends upon the context, the city, and whether a person has already been to that location.

I personally do NOT have any plans in the near future to go to India; however, if I was told that my expenses were being paid to go there.. I would certainly perk up about the possibility and attempt to consider positive aspects.. or possible ways that I could benefit.... If I am NOT being held prisoner or being tortured, then worst case scenario would be that I would have to bring a few books to read or some other kind of work to occupy my time. .. .

I was born there, lived there during my childhood before moving to sweden. Best move of my life if you ask me, I would probably still be a virgin if i lived there . If i go, i will make sure to do a datasheet about how to get cockblocked by random indians it (happend last year) And how to get food poisoning.

Post: #11398

(07-28-2014 03:37 PM)KC4 Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 03:13 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 02:03 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 01:31 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 08:35 AM)KC4 Wrote:   Shit just hit the fan .I have to go on a trip to india. Dads forcing me to go and i am in no real postion to get out YET. Just my luck just when the women here in stockholm are starting to pop out and i am starting to get on a roll ,i have to go to freaking india one of the most backwards country in the world.

Why be so negative? Sounds like a good thing, especially if daddy is paying for it.

You've never been to India have you? The majority of the country is an industrial or rural shithole(imagine the worst of both combined) , you can't eat out because have food is guaranteed to give you diarrhea, frequent power outages, nothing to do, rude locals(people will piss in the same urinal at the same time, shit on the floor, and all manner of disgusting things), terrible night life, and the amount of Bangable girls in certain sections of he country are close to nill. I have visited twice due to some unfortunate circumstances and never plan to go back.

Definitely, you make good points about possible ways to look at the situation.

You are correct that I have NEVER been; however, you would be incorrect if you were to conclude that I have NOT experienced various trying circumstances in my life.

Accordingly, my point, in part was to try to figure out why a person would want to look at a circumstance so negatively - except maybe if the circumstance was a long-term expectation. Also, we were NOT presented with enough details to really understand how dire the potential would be.

I have heard from several people about having good experiences in India, so maybe the kind of experience, whether negative or positive, depends upon the context, the city, and whether a person has already been to that location.

I personally do NOT have any plans in the near future to go to India; however, if I was told that my expenses were being paid to go there.. I would certainly perk up about the possibility and attempt to consider positive aspects.. or possible ways that I could benefit.... If I am NOT being held prisoner or being tortured, then worst case scenario would be that I would have to bring a few books to read or some other kind of work to occupy my time. .. .

I was born there, lived there during my childhood before moving to sweden. Best move of my life if you ask me, I would probably still be a virgin if i lived there . If i go, i will make sure to do a datasheet about how to get cockblocked by random indians it (happend last year) And how to get food poisoning.

I appreciate you humor and your willingness to consider possible positive aspects.

I also understand that a place can be much less alluring to any one of us if we have already been there, and also if there is NO exotic value to the place.

There is a certain different set of experiences that any guys will have in any place when he is exotic to the place... ... but if you were born there, it will be much more difficult to seem exotic, except perhaps to the extent that you would be able to play your "world traveler" card in order to project DHV upon the populace.

You would likely be in a much better position than me to anticipate whether projecting DHV is possible or NOT. For example, I am from the midwest in the USA.... When I go back to my hometown, I can project some DHV b/c of my travels; however, that only works with people that get to know (b/c they would NOT be able to tell by my physical appearance). Nonetheless, like you, I still remain somewhat bored with my return to my old stomping grounds - and that is mostly b/c I do NOT find it interesting anymore...

However, for a 1-3 week trip to my home stomping grounds, I can grit my teeth and bear it and attempt to find various positive aspects or to appreciate seeing what I had NOT been able to see during my youth while growing up there.

Post: #11399

Been 3 times and never got food poisoning

Post: #11400

I had a very negative experience so I'm a bit biased. Throwing up constantly while having diarrhea for about a month bed ridden tends to make you very negative towards a place .

Side note: the terrible accent in English of upper tier Indian girls makes me tempted to go back and get my flag as it's strangely boner inducing(more so for hate fuck reasons).