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Hi guys

i'm new to this forum and i have been reading it throughly with great interest.
I'm going to several countries in central europe and the baltic like germany, sweden, czech republic, etc and i would like to know if being an exotic tall latin guy (6'4) from south america of european descent, olive skin, black/brown hair,eyes could be an advantage in those countries regarding women. Also i'm fluent in english/spanish and improving my german.
I know of course that having a tight game is more important, but still i'm wondering if i could have a little edge regarding my looks to women in those countries..
What do you think?
Thanks!
It depends if you can differentiate yourself from the hundreds of thousands of Turks and Arabs already residing in these countries.European women are definitely too used to southern looks they do not regard them as particularly exotic anymore.
Hard to advise you not knowing what you look like, confidence levels etc.But if you are a tall, good looking, confident Brazilian guy, then there aren't many places you will do badly
(04-05-2012 02:12 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote: [ -> ]It depends if you can differentiate yourself from the hundreds of thousands of Turks and Arabs already residing in these countries.European women are definitely too used to southern looks they do not regard them as particularly exotic anymore.

Turks and Arabs are commonly 6'4" tall ???
(04-05-2012 02:20 PM)Scarecr0w Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-05-2012 02:12 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote: [ -> ]It depends if you can differentiate yourself from the hundreds of thousands of Turks and Arabs already residing in these countries.European women are definitely too used to southern looks they do not regard them as particularly exotic anymore.

Turks and Arabs are commonly 6'4" tall ???

No but Latins are not commonly 6'4'' tall as well.You will likely be regarded as tall Turk or tall Italian.Tall dark skinned Mediteraneans do quite well in some cases they are considered dream guys for some Swedish or German women.
(04-05-2012 02:24 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-05-2012 02:20 PM)Scarecr0w Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-05-2012 02:12 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote: [ -> ]It depends if you can differentiate yourself from the hundreds of thousands of Turks and Arabs already residing in these countries.European women are definitely too used to southern looks they do not regard them as particularly exotic anymore.

Turks and Arabs are commonly 6'4" tall ???

No but Latins are not commonly 6'4'' tall as well.You will likely be regarded as tall Turk or tall Italian.Tall dark skinned Mediteraneans do quite well in some cases they are considered dream guys for some Swedish or German women.

Yeah latins are not commonly tall, that's the idea Smile i guess that i will try to differentiate myself from turks/arabs/italians, so i can show them that i'm true south american Smile
Quote:No but Latins are not commonly 6'4'' tall as well.

I agree with this. Spanish and Portuguese guys are short. Same for Argentina and Colombia. Brazilian guys can be tall, but there are not a lot of them in Europe. I'm 6'2 and taller than every single Latin guy I've seen in Europe.

At 6'4 he should stand out, and with a Latino vibe, should do better than average.
Yes,Spanish and Portugese are the shortest Mediteraneans.It comes probably from the Arab mix at least for the Spanish.Northern Italians can be taller but the tallest guys with Mediteranean features are the Serbs no doubt(average height 1.85 cm lots of guys over 1.90 cm).However the Serbs are too slavic to be considered true Mediteraneans and they usually are not taken as Italians but rather as Russians or Balkans in general.
I do not know what the Latino vibe is because I have never seen Brazilians or other south American guys.Italians are quite different from Spanish in mentality although there are some differences.Basically the Spanish are a bit more macho and the Italians are more sleazy.The Spanish mentality is considered compatible to western European(I never found out why).The same is true for Portugese mentality(they get accepted I have seen Portugese guys with stunning western and eastern European girls).Our Balkan mentality unfortunately is a hindrance because it is largely not regarded compatible to western European by the girls.So this cripples us in an extent.Let's say we have an advantage in looks compared to Spanish and Italians and a serious disadvantage in culture and mentality.
Italians have created a bad fame for them in many European countries due to their cheapness that is tons of horny guys landing in big groups to avoid expenses and starting hitting every girl in a row with sweet talking making compliments and telling lies for eternal love etc.All this is largely known to northern European females who have fun with Italians and their mannerisms they laugh at them.Their reputaion in Poland is destroyed as well by the extent of many Italian guys to materialize promises of marriage to polish kochanies.
The reputation of Spanish and Portugese is way higher again I am not sure why.I have not met many Spanish or Portugese in person to know what is with them that makes them attractive in the eyes of girls because physically they are rather underwhelming.They also lack the fashion sense and the style of the Italians(although the latter are quite superficial).Or the charm of the Turks.They do not buy gifts either like the Arabs.So their appeal remains a mystery to me they must have some aces under their sleeves.
(04-05-2012 03:57 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote: [ -> ]Yes,Spanish and Portugese are the shortest Mediteraneans.It comes probably from the Arab mix at least for the Spanish.Northern Italians can be taller but the tallest guys with Mediteranean features are the Serbs no doubt(average height 1.85 cm lots of guys over 1.90 cm).However the Serbs are too slavic to be considered true Mediteraneans and they usually are not taken as Italians but rather as Russians or Balkans in general.
I do not know what the Latino vibe is because I have never seen Brazilians or other south American guys.Italians are quite different from Spanish in mentality although there are some differences.Basically the Spanish are a bit more macho and the Italians are more sleazy.The Spanish mentality is considered compatible to western European(I never found out why).The same is true for Portugese mentality(they get accepted I have seen Portugese guys with stunning western and eastern European girls).Our Balkan mentality unfortunately is a hindrance because it is largely not regarded compatible to western European by the girls.So this cripples us in an extent.Let's say we have an advantage in looks compared to Spanish and Italians and a serious disadvantage in culture and mentality.
Italians have created a bad fame for them in many European countries due to their cheapness that is tons of horny guys landing in big groups to avoid expenses and starting hitting every girl in a row with sweet talking making compliments and telling lies for eternal love etc.All this is largely known to northern European females who have fun with Italians and their mannerisms they laugh at them.Their reputaion in Poland is destroyed as well by the extent of many Italian guys to materialize promises of marriage to polish kochanies.
The reputation of Spanish and Portugese is way higher again I am not sure why.I have not met many Spanish or Portugese in person to know what is with them that makes them attractive in the eyes of girls because physically they are rather underwhelming.They also lack the fashion sense and the style of the Italians(although the latter are quite superficial).Or the charm of the Turks.They do not buy gifts either like the Arabs.So their appeal remains a mystery to me they must have some aces under their sleeves.

Hey your review is excellent, you only need to address the south american latino guys!
(04-05-2012 03:57 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote: [ -> ]Yes,Spanish and Portugese are the shortest Mediteraneans.It comes probably from the Arab mix at least for the Spanish.Northern Italians can be taller but the tallest guys with Mediteranean features are the Serbs no doubt(average height 1.85 cm lots of guys over 1.90 cm).However the Serbs are too slavic to be considered true Mediteraneans and they usually are not taken as Italians but rather as Russians or Balkans in general.
I do not know what the Latino vibe is because I have never seen Brazilians or other south American guys.Italians are quite different from Spanish in mentality although there are some differences.Basically the Spanish are a bit more macho and the Italians are more sleazy.The Spanish mentality is considered compatible to western European(I never found out why).The same is true for Portugese mentality(they get accepted I have seen Portugese guys with stunning western and eastern European girls).Our Balkan mentality unfortunately is a hindrance because it is largely not regarded compatible to western European by the girls.So this cripples us in an extent.Let's say we have an advantage in looks compared to Spanish and Italians and a serious disadvantage in culture and mentality.
Italians have created a bad fame for them in many European countries due to their cheapness that is tons of horny guys landing in big groups to avoid expenses and starting hitting every girl in a row with sweet talking making compliments and telling lies for eternal love etc.All this is largely known to northern European females who have fun with Italians and their mannerisms they laugh at them.Their reputaion in Poland is destroyed as well by the extent of many Italian guys to materialize promises of marriage to polish kochanies.
The reputation of Spanish and Portugese is way higher again I am not sure why.I have not met many Spanish or Portugese in person to know what is with them that makes them attractive in the eyes of girls because physically they are rather underwhelming.They also lack the fashion sense and the style of the Italians(although the latter are quite superficial).Or the charm of the Turks.They do not buy gifts either like the Arabs.So their appeal remains a mystery to me they must have some aces under their sleeves.
Maybe it is their vibe, experience and dancing abilities?
(04-05-2012 03:57 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote: [ -> ]Yes,Spanish and Portugese are the shortest Mediteraneans.It comes probably from the Arab mix at least for the Spanish.Northern Italians can be taller but the tallest guys with Mediteranean features are the Serbs no doubt(average height 1.85 cm lots of guys over 1.90 cm).However the Serbs are too slavic to be considered true Mediteraneans and they usually are not taken as Italians but rather as Russians or Balkans in general.
I do not know what the Latino vibe is because I have never seen Brazilians or other south American guys.Italians are quite different from Spanish in mentality although there are some differences.Basically the Spanish are a bit more macho and the Italians are more sleazy.The Spanish mentality is considered compatible to western European(I never found out why).The same is true for Portugese mentality(they get accepted I have seen Portugese guys with stunning western and eastern European girls).Our Balkan mentality unfortunately is a hindrance because it is largely not regarded compatible to western European by the girls.So this cripples us in an extent.Let's say we have an advantage in looks compared to Spanish and Italians and a serious disadvantage in culture and mentality.
Italians have created a bad fame for them in many European countries due to their cheapness that is tons of horny guys landing in big groups to avoid expenses and starting hitting every girl in a row with sweet talking making compliments and telling lies for eternal love etc.All this is largely known to northern European females who have fun with Italians and their mannerisms they laugh at them.Their reputaion in Poland is destroyed as well by the extent of many Italian guys to materialize promises of marriage to polish kochanies.
The reputation of Spanish and Portugese is way higher again I am not sure why.I have not met many Spanish or Portugese in person to know what is with them that makes them attractive in the eyes of girls because physically they are rather underwhelming.They also lack the fashion sense and the style of the Italians(although the latter are quite superficial).Or the charm of the Turks.They do not buy gifts either like the Arabs.So their appeal remains a mystery to me they must have some aces under their sleeves.

A lot of serbs look quite mediterranean although there is some slavic vibe in their looks, But I would never ever (even with 2 bottles of vodka on my body) would confuse a random group of serbians with a random group of russians, the balkan looks is quite different from the eastern slavic looks, the only people from the balkan world (although they are only considered borderline balkanic) that could pass more frequently for western/and eastern slavics would be northern croatians and slovenians. One thing that sets up apart inmediately balkanian groups from eastern/western slavic groups is the relatively lack of diversity in hair color among their adult population, when I see serbian, montenegrin, bosnian men I see like 8 out 10 times the man has black or dark brown hair, with polish, russian, ukranian men I see a lot more of diversity of hair color in a random crowd, the czech are likely to be the ones with the more blondes overall (might be the strong germanic influence?). I think the big factor is that balkanic nationalities are usually perceived as rude and unwelcoming rather than being romantized (by germanic and other cental/northern european groups) as it happens with spanish, french and italian culture and its respectives languages and people. Although as you previously pointed out Italians have lost a lot of reputation over the years.
I worked with a Punjabi guy who was 6"5, he had the olive skin tone and he managed to do really well in France and Germany. If that is an indicator of anything, it must mean you are in a favorable situation.
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