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One of the tourist meccas of the Adriatic Sea, Split (pop. 200 000) is a popular vacation and an even more popular transit spot. The number of tourists visiting the city itself and staying for at least a few days has reached 210 000 in 2011., while the number of people vacationing at the surrounding coast and islands while just visiting Split has been 1.7 million.

Currency: Croatian kuna (HRK or kn, "Hrvatska kuna"). 1€ = 7.5 kn, 1$ US = 5.5 kn

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Named like that due to its residents who can't ever agree on anything (j/k, latin name is Spalato), Split is located in the middle of the province of Dalmatia and is surrounded by many other tourist hotspots like Zadar, Makarska and Dubrovnik. You can reach it by:

a) road - either the Highway A1 "Dalmatina" from Zagreb or a smaller coastal road ("Jadranska magistrala") from northwest or southeast. The highway toll is 170 kn (22 €)
b) train - two daily and one nightly train from Zagreb, which is further connected to everywhere in Europe. One-way ticket from Zagreb is 210 kn (28 €).
c) plane - the international airport "Resnik", located some 15 km away on the other side of Split's bay, is regularly served by several international lines from Frankfurt, Barcelona, Brussels, Prague, Istanbul and etc. For cheaper types, RyanAir serves the airport in Zadar, which is 2 hours' drive away from Split. The airport is connected to Split by bus and taxi services.

Another option is a ferry from Ancona, Italy. There are also daily ferries to the surrounding islands: Brač, Hvar, Vis, Korčula, Lastovo and Mljet. It takes from 1 to 5 hours to reach them. Hvar, at about 2 hours away, houses the famous "Carpe Diem" nightclub if you're into that sort of "elite & popular" thing.

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Accomodation: because I live in Split, I have never had the opportunity to try its accommodation, but it is widely available everywhere along the city coast, with many hostels, hotels and apartments. A cheap dorm bed in a hostel might cost as little as 150 kn, a private room in a hotel up to 600 kn. There are also many unofficial apartments with lower prices, whose owners advertise them in person at the main station (approaching tourists carrying "Sobe/Rooms" signs).

Food: There are plenty of fast-food joints around, where you can have a small pizza ("pizzeta") for 10 kn, or the local specialties like ćevapi for 15-20 kn (highly recommended, try "Lozo" a bit away from the center). In lower scale restaurants, a main dish is around 50 kn, while a dinner at a typical place will cost you about 100-150 kn per person. Large fish and crustaceans are the most expensive food around and go for up to 300 kn/kg because Adriatic Sea has been overfished in recent years.
My personal restaurant favorites are the tavern Pimpinella and restaurant Re Di Mare, a place with moderate prices and nice variety of food, and Fife, a popular tavern on the coast with low prices and high quality seafood (although it's really a "tavern", which you can see in its level of service).

Split doesn't have much of foreign food, just one Chinese restaurant, possibly a mexican one that I don't know about and that's it. Croatian food, particularly seafood, will make up for the lack of variety, though.

Economy: Croatia isn't poor, it's a developed western economy (although lagging behind Slovenia), so don't make the mistake of comparing it to Macedonia or Kosovo. Social inequality is high, yes, but being a provider has lost all of its appeal many years ago.

Transport: a taxi from the center to anywhere in the city will cost 30-50 kn. Buses are frequent almost everywhere, although there are no buses at nights other than Friday or Saturday. A single bus ticket costs 10 kn, 9 if you buy it at a newsstand and not in the bus. Ticket checks are fairly frequent.

Sightseeing: Split is built upon an old Roman palace built by Emperor Diocletian in AD 304, which is amazingly well preserved, with ancient stone gates and cellars. You will be confounded by the fact that people actually live in it, which is a rarity given how old and vulnerable it is. Other than the palace, there is not too much to see. There are a nice Maritime and a Biological museum, several historical museums and art galleries (I recommend "Galerija Ivana Meštrovića" too, a museum of a famous Croatian sculptor). To the west, the woody hill Marjan serves as a recreation and relaxation hub.

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Beaches: there is only one sand beach in Split, "Bačvice" just to the east of the main promenade and city port ("Riva"), and it's nice but always hideously packed. Going either further east or west, you will discover several more coves with either gravel beaches, or natural stony coast. The sea is clean and there is no danger from sharks or anything (no such species live in Adriatic Sea), although watch out that you don't step on a sea urchin.

Girls: Girls in Split are pretty and have nice bodies, much like in Roosh's "20 reasons" post. The obesity rate is low and one of the lowest in Croatia, although Croatia as a whole does have a problem with more and more overweight people. It is also a student town, although many students will be gone back to smaller towns and islands during the summer. Overall, you will see plenty of stunners just from walking on the street.

Croatian people are one of the tallest around, and average female height is 170 cm or 5'7''), with quite a lot of variety.

Girls are generally open to at least talking to foreigners and have some interest in them for exotic value, but dating a foreigner does not confer any special social status. Their overall character is rather Americanized, with quite a lot of bitchiness, princess syndrome and flaking at epidemic proportions. It's not as bad as in Australia, from my experience, but it is definitely worse than in Poland or Slovakia. Sluttiness is moderate (and more than you would expect from a nominally Catholic country). While there is no widespread ONS culture yet like in USA (although it does happen), making out and grinding in nightclubs is quite common.

Basic English is known by almost all young people, but fluency is less common.

Competition: Croatian guys don't have a lot of game yet, although many have good physiques and are tall. Their game usually boils down to Compliment & Cuddle. The few that have quality asshole game usually clean up, although again it's not as bad as it seems to be in USA and other places. But you will need solid game to get any results.

Where to go out:

There are 3 main hubs for going out. One is along the eastern coast, where you just follow the coast from the main promenade (Riva) until you reach the first cove. There are several nightclubs "Tropic", "Bačvice" and so on stacked together and blaring typical western-DJ music. It can be quite a sausage-fest and very packed, although as soon as summer goes away, the entire coast goes dead. There is usually no entry fee.

An interesting place I have never been to but with a lot better reputation is the club "Imperium" right there in the port, where salsa evenings are held frequently. Further east along the coast, there are two caffes, then in the next cove the rock club "O'Hara" (a nice, somewhat chilled out place compared to Bačvice clubs but usually has an entry fee), and then a few more caffes along the coast of Žnjan (one is called "Plaža"), then nothing.

The second is in the middle of the city, with low-key rock clubs like "Quasimodo" and turbofolk places like "Mississipi". These places don't see much traffic during summer, but Quasimodo attracts a more hip/intellectual crowd if you're into that.

Finally, by going to the northern side of the Split peninsula, near the football stadium, you will find several clubs "Vanilla", "Hemingway" and "Plava kava" (note: very small and too packed for my tastes) which play mostly domestic pop music. Their popularity varies strongly during summer, with boom and off days, while during winter they're the main hub of the city. Compared to the coast, the vibe is similar, but there is more open space and it's a bit more relaxed.

Note that many of these places (on the coast too) have a dress code and face control, and bouncers can be rather douchey. Girls will always be allowed in, of course. People generally don't start gathering until at least midnight, but then it fills up quickly.

Almost everyone likes going out and spending at least 2 nights a week clubbing and drinking. It is a part of national culture. The only difference is type of the club: the lower-educated and less urban people generally prefer "cajke" (turbofolk) music, while the others prefer rock, techno and domestic rock, but their sexual habits aren't much different.

A drink at each of those places ranges from 15 kn for a beer, coke or a vodka shot to 30-40 kn for cocktails and the like.

Conclusion: While I don't hold Croatia or Split in a high regard and am personally disturbed by how Americanized the girls have become, so I would rather spend my days in Poland or Ukraine, during the summer everyone goes to the sea anyway, and among those places available, Split isn't bad at all. I recommend visiting for a few days and checking out if you like it. It might just surprise you.
Amazing timing I'm going to be there soon for a couple days.

Great report like usual!
Haha, I was just thinking of asking you to come over and check whether the girls are really that hot/americanized like I think they are. If you happen to visit, hit me up so I can get an autograph Smile
Good report. I visited Split a few years back, it's a really nice place.
Nice trip report, hope to make it out there in a couple years, if you're still on the forum then, maybe we can do a meet up.
Someone got some more recent info ? I am going there this summer
Any summer info on nearby Šibenik would also be helpful.
There is nothing going on in Sibenik. Some of the Krka tours stop there from Split to see this the old part of town and some famous cathedral. Otherwise it is very quiet.

For Split, a place called inBOX was popping with tourists and hot women last June. It an outdoor bar next to the port, you can't miss it. The pub crawls are also very popular in Split.
I recommend going the islands of Hvar, Brac, Korcula, Pag or go south to Makarska or Dubrovnik (maybe not so much after Game of Thorns is being filmed their) . Croatia is really only happening in the summer time. Go to Split for a night or two then hit these Islands. More parties and more tourist girls and you will also get the local Croatians. I find it hard to game Croatian girls as the men their are very protective of them even if they are not a couple. A data sheet is not needed for the islands as they are small and only a few things are relevant at night. Just like in every other Croatian city more than 3 nights is excessive unless you land a dime.
Heading to Split tomorrow and staying for a week. I hear a lot about Hvar being similar to Ibiza. Is this still the case in Aug, Sep? The plan was to head to Zagreb by train then head to Belgrade but I'm pretty flexible. Are there any places I absolutely must hit up before Zagreb and Belgrade?
(08-19-2017 12:13 AM)invictusiii Wrote: [ -> ]Heading to Split tomorrow and staying for a week. I hear a lot about Hvar being similar to Ibiza. Is this still the case in Aug, Sep? The plan was to head to Zagreb by train then head to Belgrade but I'm pretty flexible. Are there any places I absolutely must hit up before Zagreb and Belgrade?

I have been to Hvar for 3 days, it was worth it only because the boat renting experience.. for d in the hole, pardon, talking to lovely women, is a waste.. quality is good, without a doubt, but Hvar is an Instagram photo session, girls are there to show they are there.
Great data sheet. Spent a week in Split for Ultra Europe a few years ago and two weeks in Croatia as a whole but Split was one of those places I look back on fondly. Croatia is a great place overall in the summer.
Daygamed a little today. Had two girls reject the number close date seed because "they don't know me" and they don't go have coffee with strangers. Not sure how to respond to that. Never had that problem anywhere else.
Anybody going to be in Split or Dubrovnik from Sept 5-8th ?

Debating if the coast will be dead after Labour Day and I should head to Zagreb instead with school back in session
Been doing direct daygame here in Split for the most part. I get way more blowouts though. In Kiev, even when I was rejected, most girls would at least let me get a few sentences in after I give an initial compliment. Here, as soon as I say anything like "T thought you were cute" the local girls straight up walk away. I've had some success with tourists though. Mostly Brits.
^^ I had just arrived to Split, do you have any interesting findings so far? what are currently the best spots for night game / day game?
Did you try Hvar? I'm thinking about checking it out, as it must have a concentration of younger population, but it's the end of season so not sure if it will be busy enough...

Also, is there any good app for online dating in Croatia? everything I know of doesn't seem to have enough active users
(08-29-2017 03:30 PM)rugged Wrote: [ -> ]^^ I had just arrived to Split, do you have any interesting findings so far? what are currently the best spots for night game / day game?
Did you try Hvar? I'm thinking about checking it out, as it must have a concentration of younger population, but it's the end of season so not sure if it will be busy enough...

Also, is there any good app for online dating in Croatia? everything I know of doesn't seem to have enough active users

Just left Split. Didn't do much night game. As for daygame, anywhere in the old town will do fine. There is talent all over the place. My final tally was 3 notches. I banged two Aussies in the same night (lucky break). One I approached that same day and was DTF after one drink. The second I ended up fucking in some random boat we snuck into on the marina at night. I also ended up banging one local girl I met outside of the ice cream shop she worked at after two dates. She was hard to read at first but ended up pulling the trigger and getting rewarded. She's actually coming to see me in Zagreb for a few days.

All in all, I would say the local girls are pretty hard to score but it can be done. I got a lot of blowouts. Indirect may work better but I just prefer going direct. Girls on holiday will be loads easier.
I do not recommend going to Split at all.

Local girls are quite cold and tough by their own admission. Quality not That high too compared to neighbors

Expensive for what it is. Bottles are at 2-300, beach chairs at 15 euros, etc...

Scenery and beaches close by aren’t really impressive.

Tourists are mostly western, brits french etc... (although I was around yacht weeks time)

Quality of tourists is low.

Venues aren’t nice.

Some clubs we went to:

Central club: right next to old town. Dance floor and bar area get packed and you can’t really circulate. VIP tables are isolated at the back and you’ll be standing alone there.

Vanilla club: touted as the classier venue but it feels dingy although it has a way better layout than central club. First night was yacht week party so full of ugly brits and aussies. Second night was mostly locals but shields are quite high. It’s outdoors.

Tropic club: too bad it’s indoors because it feels cramped a lot.

Bacvice club: right next to tropic, but trashy at times but decent option because it’s big and has a mix of indoor outdoor.

Antique bar: bar on the port good for the preclub time. Has high quality but cliquey.

Old town has a lot of hot girls walking around in the start of the night but then it empties out.
(08-27-2018 07:27 AM)Beirut Wrote: [ -> ]I do not recommend going to Split at all.

Bro aren't there topless strippers walking around the beaches tho? Banana
Hahaha. *gogo dAncers
I heard Ploče is where the action is.
(08-27-2018 07:27 AM)Beirut Wrote: [ -> ]Tourists are mostly western, brits french etc... (although I was around yacht weeks time)

Quality of tourists is low.

Venues aren’t nice.

I agree. I wonder what's a better place in Europe for the upcoming few weeks without so many annoying fat brits/aussie tourists?
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