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Got a few business trips coming up to Antwerp. I have spent loads of time in Brussels and always believe the average girl in Brussels is not hot, a bit like the UK......has anybody been in Antwerp and can improve my morale on these visits please?

Get the feeling it will be a smaller version of Brussels, ie - not much normal totty!
Antwerp is totally different than Brussels, it's another world. The hotness of girls is few degrees higher. They are much more down to earth. Antwerp is more about middle-class & clubbing. Brussels is more alternative scene (artists). In Brussels you have the really rich and the really poor. In Antwerp everybody belongs to the middle-class and you have less extremes.

Go to:
Carré (between antwerp&brussels, you'll need a car)
Cafe Local
Cafe d'anvers
Noxx
Petrol
City center 4 bars

In Brussels, girls are nonstop harassed by immigrants so they will avoid male contact on the streets and flight away from the city when possible. So there are not much girls around. Brussels is a male city. This is not the case in Antwerp. The police has much more control over the city. Girls in Antwerp are therefor more responsive and they have more courage to dress sexy.
well back from all week in Antwerp, got to say I was underwhelmed by the local ladies....very much what I always think about Belgium, ie - the women are generally not very hot, of course there are exceptions, but generally.

I know this is not a forum for this discussion, so I will respect that, but one comment...the RLD did surprise me, ie - quality of lady.
(05-31-2013 02:28 PM)sportbilly Wrote: [ -> ]well back from all week in Antwerp, got to say I was underwhelmed by the local ladies....very much what I always think about Belgium, ie - the women are generally not very hot, of course there are exceptions, but generally.

I know this is not a forum for this discussion, so I will respect that, but one comment...the RLD did surprise me, ie - quality of lady.

My favorite ex Girlfriend (whom I should have been smart and wifed back then) is from Antwerp and still lives there. Now she is not Belgian Per say. She is alsatian (mother french, father german). But Antwerp is full of great talent. She cavorted with many many hot women. Think Northern Germany. There are lots of hot women. It is just that none of them follow one central theme or all look the same, etc. Kind of like most German people. You can't throw them all into the same basket like you can the English or French, or Slavs, etc.

(Oh, and I and my family are from Northern Germany, so am a reputable source wink wink)
Antwerp is your best bet in Belgium, especially during the weekends.

On Thursdays you should hit Leuven and Gent (student cities).

Avoid Brussels. It's a shit.
(05-31-2013 02:28 PM)sportbilly Wrote: [ -> ]well back from all week in Antwerp, got to say I was underwhelmed by the local ladies....very much what I always think about Belgium, ie - the women are generally not very hot, of course there are exceptions, but generally.

I know this is not a forum for this discussion, so I will respect that, but one comment...the RLD did surprise me, ie - quality of lady.

Did you go to Brussels?
not this time, but have been to Brussels over a 100 times over last 10 years....sadly most trips have been fly in / conduct meeting / fly out!
(06-02-2013 11:46 AM)sportbilly Wrote: [ -> ]not this time, but have been to Brussels over a 100 times over last 10 years....sadly most trips have been fly in / conduct meeting / fly out!

I will go to Brussels before going to Poland. How expensive is the public transportation system there? I will stay at a crappy hostel, around 5 km from the city.
Rail is cheap as In most of Europe....avoid Taxi's like the plague...never been anywhere with more expensive ones!
I've been to Antwerp a few days ago and thought I'd add my observations here as a sort of mini-data sheet:

(Please keep in mind that my experience is super-limited, but I'd go back to spend more time there, it seemed like a good place.)

1. Why you would want to go to Antwerp?

- The Beer is fantastic. Best in the world so far for me. And I say this as someone who lived many years in Munich. Germans pride themselves on good beer, but Belgians just kill with theirs.
- French fries
- Chocolate
- Diamonds and Gold
- Laid back atmosphere
- Seem very friendly towards foreigners
- to practice your French, Dutch, German and English at the same time.

and of course

- for Belgian girls

2. Why wouldn't you want to go?

- Not that exciting when compared to other places such as Bucharest, Zagreb, Barcelona, etc.
- Not very cheap, prices comparable with Germany and France
- Not for you if you like super feminine women like in Eastern Europe I guess

3. Girls

I'm in my 30s, I'm single, I work out regularly, so don't know if that's valuable info, but all girls we talked to were very open to approaches. I think def. more so than in Germany. But this could be my subjective bias.

We've talked the longest with two early 20s Dutch students, and two teenage Belgian girls, and both were very happy to meet us. In bars the bartender girls stopped by to chat for a bit more than once.

Personally my impression is that a) the people there are open and friendly and b) the girls get NEVER approached. Which is good if you do approach, because you could really increase your notch count. But because of the brevity of our visit someone would have to confirm this..

And again, between notches you are rewarded with incredibly good beer..

4. Safety

I'm torn between "very safe place, no worries" and "passive aggressive mafia central". Hard to say. It has both a feel of laid backness and danger (due to the wealth of the city and some gangster looking groups of guys frequently seen there. For instance we were just stared at in some places by some guys that looked like career-criminals).

5. Locations to check out

Sals Cafe: Cheap cocktails, good beer selection, young (teenage) crowd mostly, in front of the place is a square which reminds me of squares in Czech Republic: Very good for street game since girls sit in couples there waiting or just hanging out.

Verwolg (at Melkmarkt): Top tip for me, it seems like a great location for night game SNL pickups. It's a bar/club for perhaps 100 people tops. Great bar area if you are into Roosh-style wait at the bar type of game. Because the bar also is the area where everyone has to pass. You'll see what I mean if you go there.

Irish Times Pub: As always, this might be good if you want to meet girls that want to meet foreigners. But I don't go to Belgium, country of the finest most diverse beer selection in the world, and then into the local Irish Pub.. Wink

(Note: The 3 above are near each other and the 3 below are about 15 walking minutes away.)

Cafe Local: This is a club that has been recommended to us by almost everyone. But we didn't go inside, instead we went to:

Cafe modeste: Sausage fest, but the girls that were there were seeking eye contact. Confirmed my impression that Antwerp could in fact be a mini pussy-paradise.. Pop music AND we saw the Belgian twin brother of Roosh.

The Hemingway / Nick's Cafe: Late 20s, early 30s crowd that evening. Super friendly bar staff. heh

La suite: Mainstream music, mixed crowd, average in every way. Wink

Special mention: De Vagant in Graaf van Egmont street: Hipster bar where I was under the impression that everyone was on psychedelic drugs. It's an interesting place. Talked to a beautiful black girl there who mentioned that Belgian guys are "horrible" and "perverted". Whatever that means. All on drugs, it seemed.

6. Summary

I think Antwerp is worth a short trip. I'd definitely recommend going on a weekend. I don't trust this place to be much alive during the week. It's also a very romantic place with tiny streets which would make it a good destination for couples. But this is the wrong forum for that sort of thing.
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