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Edit: Oops! Can someone move this to the travel section.

I've been reading through the travel forum extensively (see 1am last night).

In a few months, I will be free for a couple of months. This will be a trip between jobs. I do plan on coming back to this shitty city for an incredibly higher salary. For reasons I won't say here, I will not have a lot of free cash for this time. Only $5K. $10K max. But assuming a $5k budget, where would you guys go?

A family member has a place I can live for rent free in London, England. It's a small bachelor room (fridge, bathroom, etc) and it's about a 15 minute commute from downtown. I would have this to myself.

I was thinking of 2 options:

1) First go to London and live there for 3 weeks and then fly to another country

2) Don't go to London, save the first flight money, and just fly to another country directly. For this I am thinking of Latvia, Czech Republic (is it dangerous? Ill use the forum search function), Germany, or Poland. I am open to other countries too.

All advice is welcome. I am seriously going to do this and this forum is going to influence 99% of my decision.
Definitely check out London if you can. But be aware that it is expensive, particularly if you're planning on a few nights out. You can easily end up spending £80 on a relatively quiet night. And even using an Oyster card (Sort of like a debit card for travelling on the underground) you can quickly rack up those travel expenses. But it is a pretty damn awesome place, a real cultural hub of people. Really buzzing whatever time of day and containing the a huge breadth of experiences.

Unless you particularly want to go to western Europe (France, Spain, Germany, Switzerland etc) I'd jump straight across to Eastern Europe. I went to Croatia last year and had a great time on the cheap. Hostels were £10 a night and drinks and food were dirt cheap as well. Since I was hitting up hostels I was thrown in with fellow travellers which contributed to my enjoyment, something to consider if you're a different type of traveller. Other than the owners of the hostel who we partied with and bar staff, we socialised with very few locals but most seemed decent folk in a kind of rural, stoic kind of way.

Flights tend to be fairly cheap once you've made it across the pond, although there is a hefty tax out of the UK.

My only experience of Czech was when I was 16 and it seemed pretty safe, although I do remember having to drag one of my friends back to the main road after walking past what was obviously a drug deal between some real shady guys. So if you have any common sense you shouldn't have much trouble. Heard the Ukraine can be a little rougher, but that's only based on hearsay.
option#2 - Eastern Europe and Central Europe will give you more bang for your buck. Poland and Czech Republic are good starts and no they are not dangerous. Most flights from Canada will go direct or through Frankfurt.

I use to live in London, great city but it will eat your dollars very quickly.
Thanks guys. Going through the forum, it seems that Poland and CR (prague) seem to be the top 2 contenders.

I will keep reading through the travel section. I didn't see specifics on costs in hotels or other lodgings in city centers. It seems that Poland > CR. I'll read Roosh's book later this week/month.
London is the world's capital city. (No apologies to NYC.) The old Empire's legacy lives on there. And it's not limited by their old colonies - but the entire world.

Perhaps the cultural contrast is starker and more vivid to a Yank than a Canuck, But the lure and legacy of our shared English language, economic dynamism, and legal and political institutions is palpable whenever I visit London.

Only then you will grasp why the world and EE regard a command of English as the key to upward mobility.
You are living out our forbears legacy of winning Three World Wars - WWI and II, and the Cold War. Discover if all the many decades of sacrifice and investment in todays future world was worth it and visit London.
Orson - WTF are you rambling on about...
Yeah no idea either haha

Update:
I decided to land in London, and stay for about 2-3 weeks. And then off to Poland for 4 weeks. I'm deciding right now between Poznan and Wroclaw.
I wouldn't recommend London for that long. WAY to expensive, and why waste that much time in one city? A city like that or Rome only deserves 5 or 6 days tops. Get a Eurorail pass and train places unless it's going to be longer than say 8 hours. That's just too much time that's killed when you could be seeing things and gaming. Gaming girls on a train a positive however. Travel light and use Ryan Air, Wizz Air, and Easy Jet specifically for cheap flights. Skyscanner is the best for search engine for flights.

Eastern Europe is where it's at. Went all over there, and never had a problem..most of which was traveling alone or with one friend. If you're hell bent on staying in the U.K., then at least stay in Ireland and Scotland too. I'd even recommend stopping in Iceland as well. Here's a little more of my take on Europe:


For good beer: Belgium and Czech Republic

Nice friendly people: Netherlands and Bulgaria

Cities with the most charm: Vilnius, Riga, Tallinn, Budapest, Edinburgh, Reykjavik.

Raging nightlife: Berlin, Bucharest, Budapest, Prague, Kiev, Iceland (thur-Sat). Malta has good nightlife, but it's a really young crowd, lots of fights...etc. But it's still a kicking good time and I'd recommend their booze cruises.

Cheapest: Bulgaria and Hungary

Most Expensive: Sweden and England

Most history and/or tourist things to do per square mile: Malta, Sicily and Iceland.

Most racist and probably most unfriendly to tourist/foreigners: Stockholm, Sweden. I swear because my friend was black we weren't allowed into some places. I just simply wouldn't recommend Stockholm at all.

And of course the hottest women: Romania, Ukraine, Iceland, Sicily, Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Estonia, Hungary and specifically Eindhoven in the Netherlands.

Best and cheapest 5 star hotel I ever stayed in: Queen's Court Budapest
Other place to consider in Hungary- Heves Thermal Lake

The city I had the most success in that I would call you a fool for not going to:
Brno, Czech Republic. Just be aware that night life is a bit dead during the week, so make sure you do the weekend. This was however in March when it was cold, so perhaps more is going on in the summer. I read Naughty Nomads take on this city and totally disagree with his assessment. This place is definitely a must.

Again, do yourself a favor and don't stay that long or go to London for 3 weeks. Feel free to message me if you have a specific country you want to know about...I may have been.
Mbare has given you a great blueprint, London for a week tops and definetly do the Iceland stopover with Icelandair.

I will totally disagree with the comments about Stockholm, simply my favourite city in Europe but very expensive.

Budapest is a great city, lukewarm on the girls.
Prague is great if you have never been.
(10-22-2013 09:42 PM)rudebwoy Wrote: [ -> ]Mbare has given you a great blueprint, London for a week tops and definetly do the Iceland stopover with Icelandair.

I will totally disagree with the comments about Stockholm, simply my favourite city in Europe but very expensive.

Budapest is a great city, lukewarm on the girls.
Prague is great if you have never been.

Yeah, it's funny because someone recently asked questions about Stockholm in the winter...of course I gave it a scathing report. I'm glad some people have found the best in it. I had high hopes and assumed nothing but a fantastic city, especially given it was one of my last trips after 4 years of roaming around Europe. It was a very nice city to look at/walk around, and the Vasa was cool but that's about the only good thing I have to say. Perhaps it was because we went there in the winter...not sure. It was just our impression after 5 nights.

I had pretty good success in Budapest. For anyone reading this, check out their ruin bars. Prague was incredibly amazing and a must for Europe. A lot of people think Germany in terms of beer, but again Belgium and Czech kills it on beer variety and quality. Prague downside is all the tourist, and bitch shields from local Czech girls. And that's where Brno comes in...if you want to bang another traveler/foreigner, go to Prague. If you want to bang a Czech girl go to Brno. Not that you couldn't in Prague, but for a short trip, say 5 days or less Brno is money in terms of approaching and chances you'll bang a Czech.
(10-22-2013 09:42 PM)rudebwoy Wrote: [ -> ]Mbare has given you a great blueprint, London for a week tops and definetly do the Iceland stopover with Icelandair.

I will totally disagree with the comments about Stockholm, simply my favourite city in Europe but very expensive.

Budapest is a great city, lukewarm on the girls.
Prague is great if you have never been.

The only reason I'm saying that I can spend a lot of time in London is that I will not have to pay for lodging. There's a bachelor room 15 minutes from downtown that I can stay at for free. Mind you, it's not that big. And, would that be too far for logistics?
(10-23-2013 08:56 AM)alphaspiraton Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-22-2013 09:42 PM)rudebwoy Wrote: [ -> ]Mbare has given you a great blueprint, London for a week tops and definetly do the Iceland stopover with Icelandair.

I will totally disagree with the comments about Stockholm, simply my favourite city in Europe but very expensive.

Budapest is a great city, lukewarm on the girls.
Prague is great if you have never been.

The only reason I'm saying that I can spend a lot of time in London is that I will not have to pay for lodging. There's a bachelor room 15 minutes from downtown that I can stay at for free. Mind you, it's not that big. And, would that be too far for logistics?

How long do you plan on being away?
Having a free place to stay in London will save you money but I would only spend a week there max, your money will go fast there.
Eastern Europe is your best bet for saving money and girls.
I can show you a few cool spots in London if you're interested.
(10-23-2013 08:56 AM)alphaspiraton Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-22-2013 09:42 PM)rudebwoy Wrote: [ -> ]Mbare has given you a great blueprint, London for a week tops and definetly do the Iceland stopover with Icelandair.

I will totally disagree with the comments about Stockholm, simply my favourite city in Europe but very expensive.

Budapest is a great city, lukewarm on the girls.
Prague is great if you have never been.

The only reason I'm saying that I can spend a lot of time in London is that I will not have to pay for lodging. There's a bachelor room 15 minutes from downtown that I can stay at for free. Mind you, it's not that big. And, would that be too far for logistics?

Rudebwoy is right. You'll save the money in other areas by being in Eastern Europe. 15 min is too far for bringing a girl back from a bar/club that night. It can happen if you've built a ton of attraction prior to leaving, but you really run the risk of everything falling through with that far of a ride. If you can afford it, find out where the bar/club area of any city is, and try to be with 3 or 4 blocks of it. At the worst a 5 min cab ride. 15 min isn't bad if you're doing a follow-up date, and by date I mean simply drinks. If your pad is in a bad part of town, or around jack shit then forget about it. Your place needs to at least be around something, so you invite her there and easily transition to your pad as you bar hop. Location, location, location. You will fuck yourself if you don't follow this simple rule. Side note: Where ever you stay, have some form of alcohol and a snacks ALWAYS ready. Never give a girl an excuse to sidetrack anything, like being hungry...pizza place...runs into old friends, sobers up, gets a call...leading to your dick being in your hand. Give a girl time to think, and shit will go south.

I don't understand what your goal is really...? If it's to experience a lot of London then great...stay 3 weeks. If you're on a trip of a lifetime to see Europe and enjoy their women then don't waste your time staying there for 3 weeks, then only add Poland to your list. Given your on a budget, again budget airlines, Eurorail, Bed and breakfast, rental apartments, and at the worst a Hostel for cheap living. Pick 1 new city/country for every week your there.
London is great. Accomodation very expensive, but then it's expensive for a reason. Lot's of people want to be there.

Consider travelling by train and/or ferry to your other destinations. Will be a lot more fun than a budget airline and much cheaper than business class on a proper airline. Also, you're spectacularly more likely to meet and actually connect with other people, including hot girls, than on Easyjet. Check out man in seat 61 to figure out how to get from London to X city in Europe without flying.

http://www.seat61.com/
London is sick but mind the exchange rate and expect to ball out. I just got finished doing something similar to what you are discribing and with around the same budget. that said I think I spent more money in London in 2 days than I spent in croatia in a week. london also serves as a good jump off point to a lot of other cities in europe because of the budget airlines that fly out of there namely ryan air and easy jet. do be careful when flying these guys though because they find ways to rape you if you don't know how to use them properly. That you have a free place to stay so close to downtown should be a huge leg up.
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