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Tailor on Ten. The only other cheaper way to get value is to be able to speak Thai, go to a sweatshop and personally oversee the construction of the fabrics you bought yourself, maybe from that fabric shop by Terminal 21.

In life you get what you pay for, it rings especially true in Asia.
(08-17-2018 09:59 AM)ts58 Wrote: [ -> ]Tailor on Ten. The only other cheaper way to get value is to be able to speak Thai, go to a sweatshop and personally oversee the construction of the fabrics you bought yourself, maybe from that fabric shop by Terminal 21.

In life you get what you pay for, it rings especially true in Asia.

Thanks for the tip. I know there are a lot of places that produce shit there. Which is the reason I'm looking for somewhere reputable, even if it costs a more than average. I'll check out Tailot at Ten.
There's no difference, they don't make them in the shop, they send them to the same sweatshops.

Those indian dudes are nothing but fabric salesmen.

Hong Kong is the better choice and if you can't afford that, then bring a shirt or suit you like and ask them to copy it. I've had good results with that.
(08-17-2018 11:30 AM)nomadbrah Wrote: [ -> ]There's no difference, they don't make them in the shop, they send them to the same sweatshops.

Those indian dudes are nothing but fabric salesmen.

Hong Kong is the better choice and if you can't afford that, then bring a shirt or suit you like and ask them to copy it. I've had good results with that.

Have never had a good experience with suits at Thai tailor shops - even going with locals who could speak the language fluently. Weird shoulder pads, poor stitching, heavy canvas skeletons, fabrics were never very nice, etc. Shirts have been much better however.

A lot of these internet M2M suit brands like Indochino and Black Lapel have slightly higher pricing but QC and the ease of returns, additional tailoring and delivering to your home are worth it in my opinion. Can pick them up even cheaper during their annual Black Friday sales.
I’ll be in Thailand the third week of November (Thanksgiving Week) for 5 nights. I’ll be there during the middle of the week. I’m American, blonde, early 30’s looking and tall. I’m debating staying the entirety in Bangkok or possibly two nights in 3rd/4th tier Isan. Budget is +/- $250 per day and wouldn’t mind balling out a little as its a vacation splurge. I am also not weary of sketchy/poor areas and would adjust spending down accordingly. I am well traveled but have not done much in Asia except for a week in the Phils last May. I’m attracted to more reserved girls, which is very difficult to land on a short trip I know. Any advice on how to split my time or to go all in on Bangkok?
Nickermans in the basement of the landmark hotel is a good tailor.
I'm more than happy with the suits that they have made me in the past.
(08-17-2018 11:30 AM)nomadbrah Wrote: [ -> ]There's no difference, they don't make them in the shop, they send them to the same sweatshops.

Those indian dudes are nothing but fabric salesmen.

Hong Kong is the better choice and if you can't afford that, then bring a shirt or suit you like and ask them to copy it. I've had good results with that.

Tailor on Ten has their own in-house tailors. You can even watch them working on suits. They're in the same house with huge windows.
WashedupVet - Yeah just pipeline but 5 nights isn't very long.
I like the idea of trying to get the future bar girls at source in isaan. A Norwegian expat told me that buriram is a good place.
The only thing is that five nights is so short. I recently spent a few nights in Hua hin banging two chick's a day on average. Awesome and easy to pull but it went by so fast. ..
Bangkok is a known quantity that will deliver, parts of isaan.. Who knows? But take a look at buriram.
(08-17-2018 11:27 PM)Bienvenuto Wrote: [ -> ]WashedupVet - Yeah just pipeline but 5 nights isn't very long.
I like the idea of trying to get the future bar girls at source in isaan. A Norwegian expat told me that buriram is a good place.
The only thing is that five nights is so short. I recently spent a few nights in Hua hin banging two chick's a day on average. Awesome and easy to pull but it went by so fast. ..
Bangkok is a known quantity that will deliver, parts of isaan.. Who knows? But take a look at buriram.

Yea, 5 days is a major handicap. 2 Weeks off a year is all we get in the USofA.

I’ll look into the logistics of Buriram. I was also intrigued by Udon Thani. Minimal (or reduced if possible) Farang presence, ease of flight access, without being completely dead is the goal. Hopefully getting in and out of DMK isn’t a nightmare.
(08-17-2018 09:59 AM)ts58 Wrote: [ -> ]Tailor on Ten. The only other cheaper way to get value is to be able to speak Thai, go to a sweatshop and personally oversee the construction of the fabrics you bought yourself, maybe from that fabric shop by Terminal 21.

In life you get what you pay for, it rings especially true in Asia.

+1 for Tailor on Ten. I've had a bunch of suits, shirts and blazers made there. I believe it's owned by 2 Canadian and English guys and they have local staff. So far I've always been happy with their work.
Never used Tailor on Ten personally, but have seen it recommended many times on the Bangkok Expats FB group, so would say it's a safe bet.

(08-17-2018 10:57 PM)WashedUPVet Wrote: [ -> ]I’ll be in Thailand the third week of November (Thanksgiving Week) for 5 nights. I’ll be there during the middle of the week. I’m American, blonde, early 30’s looking and tall. I’m debating staying the entirety in Bangkok or possibly two nights in 3rd/4th tier Isan. Budget is +/- $250 per day and wouldn’t mind balling out a little as its a vacation splurge. I am also not weary of sketchy/poor areas and would adjust spending down accordingly. I am well traveled but have not done much in Asia except for a week in the Phils last May. I’m attracted to more reserved girls, which is very difficult to land on a short trip I know. Any advice on how to split my time or to go all in on Bangkok?

I wouldn't bother going to Issan. I spent a couple of weeks in Udon Thani a while back but got bored and left early. Definitely wouldn't want to be there if I was only in Thailand for 5 nights.

Just stay in Bangkok IMHO. Or if you want a bit of variety maybe go down to Koh Samet for a night or two. About a 3 hour taxi/bus from Bangkok then short boat ride.

Should be plenty of (non-Pro) Thai girls from Bangkok at Samet on the weekend
I'll vouch for Tom's Fashion on Sukhumvit Soi 8 (it's next to or a couple doors down from a New Zealand bar). Was there last year and got 2 suits, a blazer, and 4-5 shirts for around US$1100, all good quality stuff, and that included having most of it (everything except for one of the suits and IIRC 2 of the shirts--kept a few things to wear later on my trip) shipped to the US. If you go on their website and set up an appointment they'll actually send a taxi to your hotel to pick you up in order to make sure you don't go to the wrong place--there are several skeezy Indian "3 custom suits for THB5000" type places nearby as well as another unrelated place called Tom's in a different part of town. The guys who run Tom's are from Nepal, good quality suits. I also ordered some more shirts from them a few months ago, they still had my measurements on file, around $60 each and they arrived in the US in about 3 weeks.

Really though I doubt you can go wrong with either place, I've heard good things about Tailor on Ten as well, just no experience with them personally.
I'm planning a trip to SE Asia from Nov 30 - Dec 16. My plan was 10 days Thailand, 2 days Cambodia, 3 days Vietnam. Does this sound like a reasonable division of time or should I invest more time in one place. My primary goals are to enjoy myself, get some Flags, Passport Stamps, get great pictures for online presence, and to photograph Angkor Wat.

Does the schedule sound reasonable or should I spread it out more? Also, there is a concert on the 8th-9th in BKK I wanted to go to.

Also, where should I stay? I wanted to get a place in Thonglor for a week or so, anyone have ideas of who to talk to?
(08-27-2018 05:38 PM)Dasein Wrote: [ -> ]I'm planning a trip to SE Asia from Nov 30 - Dec 16. My plan was 10 days Thailand, 2 days Cambodia, 3 days Vietnam. Does this sound like a reasonable division of time or should I invest more time in one place. My primary goals are to enjoy myself, get some Flags, Passport Stamps, get great pictures for online presence, and to photograph Angkor Wat.

Does the schedule sound reasonable or should I spread it out more? Also, there is a concert on the 8th-9th in BKK I wanted to go to.

Also, where should I stay? I wanted to get a place in Thonglor for a week or so, anyone have ideas of who to talk to?

Are you just staying in BKK when in Thailand or are you going to any islands or up north?

Whatever you do make sure you're in BKK for the weekend, preferably Thursday to Monday. If I were you I would hit the weekend hard in BKK and then leave to Angor on Monday morning and either come back Tuesday night, or latest Wednesday morning. Then hit BKK again for the weekend and then travel to Vietnam from Monday to Wednesday, and then hit BKK hard one last weekend.

Of course I don't know where you're going in Vietnam so I can't say how much time you should spend there. But you only need a day or so to see Angor.

And outside of Nana, BKK is kind of dead on Mondays and Tuesdays. So the best bang for your buck is to literally try to get your flags in BKK on the weekends.

And for quick trips Thonglor is perfect. Although you could do Ekkamai as well and still have great logistics from Thonglor nightlife, not to mention Ekkamai has its own share of cool spots.
That's super helpful. I really like your idea of being in BKK for the weekends.

I do not have fixed plans at the moment, I kind of want to see Chiang Mai or Phuket-- somewhere beach-y and scenic for photography. If I get the flag easily, which sounds totally possible, I'll probably do more outdoorsy activities.

Is it better to get a hotel or an apartment? Would chicks be sketched out by a hotel? Where do you stay or what works best in that regard?
@Dasein.

I've done both Air bnb and hotels. I stayed in two hotels last time I went, and when I go back in Dec/Jan. I'll most likely stay in the same hotels. I prefer hotels because most are less than a 10 minute walk to the closest BTS stop. They are also generally close to restaurants, cafes, bars and nightclubs.

And what I love most about hotels are the cleaning staff and the concierge/front desk. Cleaning lady comes in each morning and cleans so I don't have to worry about picking up after myself. When I'm in BKK I don't like to spend time cleaning the place or doing laundry, because I want to be out exploring or doing stuff. In a hotel I can just wake up, take a shower and head out for the day and come back to a clean room with fresh towels. When I need to wash clothes, I just leave it in a bag on the bed.

English speaking conciege/front desk are great for troubleshooting issues. I had a problem with my AIS sim card last time and AIS kept sending me text messages in Thai. I asked the hotel concierge to read the text messages and he literally fixed the issue for me on the spot. They can also help with directions, calling you a taxi or moto and give local tips on food spots.

Air Bnb's on the other hand, offer more of a local experience. My issue is the couple that I stayed in were deep in the smaller Soi's and a good 15 minute+ walk to the closest BTS spot. That was my biggest issue with apartment rentals. But if you can snag an apartment off the big Soi's or on Sukhumvit then go for it.

Also, if you want to do an island or go up north, then you may want to forget going to Vietnam or give yourself an extra two or three days.

And I wouldn't decide on going up north or to an island until you get to Thailand. The last thing you want to do is book a flight/hotel to an island three months in advance only to get to Thailand and discover it's going to rain the entire time you're on the island. So decide on where to go once you arrive and pick the spot that won't be raining the entire time you're there.
spotted another FB thread today on how hard is dating in Bangkok for foreign woman -https://www.facebook.com/groups/bkexpats.kc/permalink/2380027598691148/
it's interesting how women are reacting when market dynamics works against them
(08-28-2018 05:13 PM)petburi Wrote: [ -> ]spotted another FB thread today on how hard is dating in Bangkok for foreign woman -https://www.facebook.com/groups/bkexpats.kc/permalink/2380027598691148/
it's interesting how women are reacting when market dynamics works against them

Can you copy the post quote or link if it's an article? The link you posted only gets you to the fb group page for non members. I always get fascinated by these stories myself. Not that these women do the overall goal of seeing it from a guy's shoes in the west, but it's interesting to see them try to take down the guys for going after local girls.
there is no article, just a bunch of comment, many are clueless, but some people highlighted the reasons behind this, being different market compared to western countries.

PS: I realized it's closed group later, apologize for this confusion
The worst is when women talk shit about the men that date SEA girls. It gets old if I'm being honest. They try to label them as under the radar pedophiles or perverted desperate men because they choose those girls over middle aged broads in America. SEA girls tend to get their sympathy because they're the raw version of trading sex and youth for financial stability. Granted, that happens, but I don't think American girls can accept that a more discrete version of it happens in their own country. Like girls don't go chasing guys who are doing well in life. It's just on a lower and more raw scale in SEA with western guys going where their max value is.
(08-28-2018 05:41 PM)yankeetravels Wrote: [ -> ]The worst is when women talk shit about the men that date SEA girls. It gets old if I'm being honest. They try to label them as under the radar pedophiles or perverted desperate men because they choose those girls over middle aged broads in America. SEA girls tend to get their sympathy because they're the raw version of trading sex and youth for financial stability. Granted, that happens, but I don't think American girls can accept that a more discrete version of it happens in their own country. Like girls don't go chasing guys who are doing well in life. It's just on a lower and more raw scale in SEA with western guys going where their max value is.

I might had believed it in the 1990s or the early 2000s. But in 2018 you have men who are taller than 6 feet, educated and wealthy who are struggling with the dating market in the west. It's peak female SMV and rock bottom male SMV in the west.


Even some good looking men ("Chads") have done Tinder data sheets (based of 1,000 swipes or so) and only reported a 3% - 12% match rate. Meaning 88% - 97% of women think they're too good for the best looking among us.

Also in 2018 a lot of places in the world have caught up to the United States in terms of infrastructure and amenities. Most major cities in the 2nd and 3rd world offer more than a lot of 2nd and 3rd tier places in USA.
(08-28-2018 05:41 PM)yankeetravels Wrote: [ -> ]The worst is when women talk shit about the men that date SEA girls. It gets old if I'm being honest. They try to label them as under the radar pedophiles or perverted desperate men because they choose those girls over middle aged broads in America. SEA girls tend to get their sympathy because they're the raw version of trading sex and youth for financial stability. Granted, that happens, but I don't think American girls can accept that a more discrete version of it happens in their own country. Like girls don't go chasing guys who are doing well in life. It's just on a lower and more raw scale in SEA with western guys going where their max value is.

Actually it happens in USA. Seeking Arrangement is huge in a lot of U.S. cities and even looks like there might be more active / serious women on there than Tinder.

I've read some lulzy articles about how Sugar Daddies got their babies down to $200/month compensation (or even took money from them!) which is cheaper than hiring actual escorts.

Would be tempted to try it out myself but so far Seeking Arrangement isn't really used in the places I've been to in Europe and Asia.
(08-28-2018 05:32 PM)petburi Wrote: [ -> ]there is no article, just a bunch of comment, many are clueless, but some people highlighted the reasons behind this, being different market compared to western countries.

PS: I realized it's closed group later, apologize for this confusion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XrnG2n2mqg

It's a false complaint. Most of those men in Thailand, if a white woman there approached them like the above video, would ditch their Oriental for the Occidental.

Thing is most western white 5/10s (global rating meaning just a thin western chick) only date Prince Billionaires for the most part.
I am in BKK at the moment.

If anyone wants to hang out or go for a beer send me a PM.

I'm in my early 30's from the UK.

Would be nice to meet some fellow RVFers!
(08-17-2018 10:57 PM)WashedUPVet Wrote: [ -> ]I’ll be in Thailand the third week of November (Thanksgiving Week) for 5 nights. I’ll be there during the middle of the week. I’m American, blonde, early 30’s looking and tall. I’m debating staying the entirety in Bangkok or possibly two nights in 3rd/4th tier Isan. Budget is +/- $250 per day and wouldn’t mind balling out a little as its a vacation splurge. I am also not weary of sketchy/poor areas and would adjust spending down accordingly. I am well traveled but have not done much in Asia except for a week in the Phils last May. I’m attracted to more reserved girls, which is very difficult to land on a short trip I know. Any advice on how to split my time or to go all in on Bangkok?

I wouldn't go Isaan - too far to waste time out of 5 days, and massive language barrier even if you find someone you like.

If you want to try somewhere else I also agree with Hua Hin. You can get comfortable VIP bus which takes 3-4 hours for 280 THB.

I've been in HH for about 4 months and most foreigners here are old so super easy for you. I haven't done any shopping here as I have long term (almost 3 years) Thai gf, but my mate visited us and got two girls in two nights.
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