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Thailand is cheap. Don't travel if you don't have the means to do it right. Better to maintain a healthy frugal lifestyle then travel with some decent cash than go begpacking like a loser. I'm in SEA I don't splurge but I don't hesitate to Uber everywhere and book a room at hostels and hotels right next door for having a social place with a private room next door for logistics and paying for conveniences. If you don't have some cash for that you're gonna be miserable choking in filthy buses in BKK traffic and sharing 8 or 16 man dorms with smelly liberal backpackers and counting your dirty sweaty bills for the cheapest shit from a convenience store or a grandma on the street.

No need to spend a lot on a place. I blew $1200 USD for a 5 night stay at a luxury hotel in BKK once and realized that I could have the same for half or 1/3 of the price. Your money goes farther on optimizing your taxi/uber, dinner options, and activities with a girl. It's okay to play the part of a successful foreigner as long as you're smart about it, after all she is playing the part of an easy local girl. Walking around with a dirty t shirt and cheap flip flops from hostel to hostel in your harem pants isn't going to attract the more upper middle class materialistic 7's, 8's, and even sensible 6's. I've dredged the gutters all over and trust me I'd rather pay more for convenience and accommodations no matter where I go in life. And I'm going to work and save so that I can do it right.
(09-25-2018 01:06 AM)zamfir112 Wrote: [ -> ]I find thailand too expensive these days comparing to say vietnam , the thai baht is over inflated it used to be much cheaper pre 2013 , each year its getting more expensive to visit thailand. Back in 2010 i used to eat a meal for 20 baht in southern thailand, now the same meal is 40-45 baht

Is Vietnam genuinely cheaper than Thailand nowadays?
At least in my experience from 2018 I found it way easier to get a cheap and nice Airbnb in Bangkok compared to HCMC.

I have to say when traveling through Vietnam by motorbike, I found the acommodations and food very cheap, but Thailand in the countryside away from tourists should be the same.
Even Malaysia is way cheaper than Thailand imo, i can eat decent food in KL for 5-10 ringgit and be full.

Apple juice costs me a mere 2 ringgit in KL. 70 baht in Bangkok
Just an example that Thailand is not as cheap as people think.
Yes the housing is cheap but everything else is more expensive than most other SEA countries , i paid 450 baht to watch a 3d movie in siam paragon. Thats quite expensive tbh.
Have you considered not complaining, change your mindset to "how can i afford it" and spend your energy doing something constructive.
Anyone in BKK and want to head together to the Sofitel Pool Party this Saturday? Mid 30s - from LA.
(09-25-2018 11:14 PM)King of the Bongo Wrote: [ -> ]At least in my experience from 2018 I found it way easier to get a cheap and nice Airbnb in Bangkok compared to HCMC.

lolwut? I tried looking for condos in BKK on there recently, most of them started at $700+ for a basic crappy condo near a BTS that's probably worth $300 at best if you were to rent directly from a landlord. Talk about price gouging.
Because it's short term. Most want 6 months + for the cheaper rents and charge high prices for monthly rentals. I personally would rather want someone staying for $400/6 months for the monthly cash flow than getting weekly or monthly short term rentals here and there.

Same goes for gym prices: it's like 700-1000 baht for 1 time use when I called around. They all want to lock you in long term prices and will drastically reduce the rate of 50% or more the longer you stay
(09-23-2018 07:26 PM)asiaslayer Wrote: [ -> ]Longterm BKK residents, how much do you generally run up your electricity/utilities bill each month when you leave air con and laptops on and charging all day while maybe turning it off at night?

It seems to vary greatly, and I can't really find a typical amount figure. I read if you're paying the bill to your landlord, they're going to jack up the price and fuck you over, often charging double or triple the cost, than if you were to pay directly to the electric company/government. Do you guys negotiate in your rental contract to pay directly to the govt, or simply find places that don't handle your bills?

Usually 500 - 700 TBH for me (probably slightly higher around April), but I'm usually out all day.

That kind of overcharging was declared illegal earlier this year IIRC. I get my electric bill in my mailbox and pay it at 7-11. My water bill is paid to the condo though.

(09-24-2018 07:04 PM)Dasein Wrote: [ -> ]Alright Gentlemen, I am booked for Thailand for the first two weeks of December and could not be more stoked. I plan to do my own work and research on preparing for the trip, but would appreciate any updated pointers that have not been posted in the thread already.

Plan:
Oct 30 - Begin Pipelining for trip.
Nov 25 - Set tinder location to BKK.
Nov 30, 11pm Arrive. Check in at Grande Centre Point Sukhumvit 55, Explore nightlife if I have a pulse.
Nov 30 - Dec4 - Grande Centre Point Sukhumvit 55. Meet expats and explore during day, party at night, date/bang depending on opportunity.
Dec 5, Daytrip to Angkor Wat, spend night in Siam Riep.
Dec 6-7, either stay in Siam Riep or check out Phenom Penh-- wherever my odds of legitimately capturing the flag look best. If dates went well in Thailand, return there earlier.
Dec 8-9, Return to BKK for 808 Music Festival, ASOT 850. It's at Park Rama 9-- hotel either near there or at Marriot in Thonglor.
Dec 9-10, More BKK nightlife. Followup with girls or explore more.
Dec 11-13ish, Vietnam, possibly try to get flag. Bigger focus is on finding the best Pho in the country. Not at all sure where to stay yet.
Dec 13ish-15 - Last weekend partying in Thailand, may head back earlier if Thailand looked promising.
Dec 16 - Fly back to US.
Dec 17 - Go to work and pretend to be a functional non-degenerate human being.

How does that look? Any thoughts? Would love recommendations or to meet members. I do pretty well in the US, and particularly well with Asians in America, so I am hoping that skill-set translates. Excited as fuck.

I wouldn't pipeline a whole month in advance personally. Ideally you want your leads to be fresh. A week is more than enough in my experience (two weeks max), but your mileage may vary.

Your itinerary looks a bit rushed to me. Three days each in Cambodia and Vietnam? I'd save Vietnam for a later trip if I were you and spend more time in Cambodia.

I recommend at least three days in Siem Reap in order to see all the highlights (obviously one day is fine if you just want to check it off your list). The three day Angkor pass is only slightly more expensive than the one day pass IIRC and you'll probably want to do both the big circuit and the small circuit which each take a full day. Then maybe see some of the older sites on the third day for a bit of contrast. Beng Mealea is a great day trip too if you want to see even more ruins.

Besides that, I thought Siem Reap was a nice little town. Note that you have a full week to use the three day pass and the days don't need to be consecutive. The 25 cent beers are awesome and if that's not enough plenty of other stuff is readily available. Food not as good as Thailand IMO but still pretty decent.

Flag capping would be much easier in PP though. The Tuol Sleng Genocide Museum is a must see in PP - very moving.

(09-24-2018 01:17 AM)Cam Newton Wrote: [ -> ]Does anyone know if apartment prices have lowered since Bangkok banned short term AirBNB rentals?

Not sure, but I don't think so. Potentially a bigger issue is that the amended condo act gives renters the right to break their contract at any time during their lease without penalty, provided they give at least 30 days' notice (as I understand it). I saw some speculation that this could lead to higher rents as landlords no longer have a guaranteed long term income stream.
I've been enjoying BKK the past couple of weeks checking out various venues for my own personal data sheet. 2 of my wingmen are heading back to their respective countries.

I'll be here at least another 2 weekends so if anyone wants to join me in getting a bottle/table in the club. Send me a PM.
(09-25-2018 07:07 PM)DarkTriad Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-25-2018 01:06 AM)zamfir112 Wrote: [ -> ]I find thailand too expensive these days comparing to say vietnam , the thai baht is over inflated it used to be much cheaper pre 2013 , each year its getting more expensive to visit thailand. Back in 2010 i used to eat a meal for 20 baht in southern thailand, now the same meal is 40-45 baht

Is Vietnam genuinely cheaper than Thailand nowadays?

Oh yea, and significantly. Not HCMC as mentioned, but HCMC is the shittiest part of Vietnam you can visit.

Spent there 3 months this year, 1 month last year, and major part of the past 4 years in Thailand.

My living expenses are about 50% of what it is in Thailand. Except accommodation, but that's because I usually get long term in TH but travel from north to south in VN.
^^ Best to compare apples to apples. Thailand may be more expensive for some things (alcohol), but as for food, taxis and especially accomodation, it blows Vietnam out of the water. Not only in the quality but the selection of places to stay is so much better. It's also a lot more developed than Vietnam and is much safer and convenient.
I'll be in Bangkok for a week starting the end of November, what areas would I want my hotel in? I'm not good on a motor cycle, and dislike the tuk tuk mafia, would like to be within staggering distance of the fun spots. A little older (late 40s) but I love to dance. My ideal scene would be an unpretentious dance spot where I could dance the night away, and I'm not too proud to grab a freelancer if things haven't worked out out with the civilians, as long as I get to dance with her and enjoy myself. Hey, I didn't do that at your age either, but as you get older sometime you end up making compromises. The only thing I need out of a hotel is internet, a service-able gym and a pool. Any suggestions? Doesn't have to be a specific hotel (although those suggestions are welcome), just a neighborhood I could type into the search engine so I'm not on the wrong end of town.
(10-05-2018 06:22 PM)DarkTriad Wrote: [ -> ]I'll be in Bangkok for a week starting the end of November, what areas would I want my hotel in? I'm not good on a motor cycle, and dislike the tuk tuk mafia, would like to be within staggering distance of the fun spots. A little older (late 40s) but I love to dance. My ideal scene would be an unpretentious dance spot where I could dance the night away, and I'm not too proud to grab a freelancer if things haven't worked out out with the civilians, as long as I get to dance with her and enjoy myself. The only thing I need out of a hotel is internet, a service-able gym and a pool. Any suggestions? Doesn't have to be a specific hotel (although those suggestions are welcome), just a neighborhood I could type into the search engine so I'm not on the wrong end of town.

Walking anywhere in BKK is shit, so the closer you are to public transportation the better. Uber is great but the train goes through traffic. With that said get as close as you can to the train stops, you can be drenched in sweat if you take a 5 minute walk instead of a 2 minute walk. My favorite place (while it can be a little touristy) is near Asok station because its where the BTS and MRT cross so the station goes in different directions (one undergound one above). It's also across from a giant mall with restaurants, food court, and gyms. Some time of the year it can be expensive if it's not within your budget remember the further you go east on the BTS the cheaper rent gets.
Grand Centrepoint Terminal 21 hotel, it has gym & pool, and connects by private walkway to Terminal 21 (a big mall) and the skytrain (Asok station), and the MRT, can't get any more central than that. Or Sofitel hotel, or Landmark hotel, same area.
Thanks brother!
Jspill how are those hotels when it comes to bringing women over?
Landmark is great regarding the gym. They let you train in their own Fitness First branch inside the hotel. Doesn't get any better than that for a hotel gym. It's also near most of the clubs that fit your description, but also in the middle of the redlight district. However, you can tell that the people from the hotel are making great efforts to keep the area around the hotel clean. No beggars, hookers, street vendors or trash on the street in front of the hotel.

If you don't decide to stay at the Landmark, you can still go to the Fitness First there and get a free 3 day trial
(10-06-2018 01:14 AM)JR301 Wrote: [ -> ]Jspill how are those hotels when it comes to bringing women over?

I haven't stayed at them personally but friends passing through BKK did and had no issues taking girls back. You rarely ever hear of Thailand hotels refusing that, unlike Vietnam, Laos, Burma, Cambodia. I think the few times you hear about it there was more to the story, like it was a ladyboy on meth that the guy was trying to bring back or something. It's Thailand, hotels know what single men are there for. Especially the Asok area, with the red light districts of Cowboy and Nana on the same street, Sukhumvit road.
AirBnB is pretty good in Bangkok, tons of super cheap apartments with pool, gym and great internet all along the BTS line so just pick a station (Asok is great because of the crossover of the metro/BTS as mentioned above).

I find the hotels to be pretty overpriced for the most part given the price and quality of apartments.
(10-06-2018 01:14 AM)JR301 Wrote: [ -> ]Jspill how are those hotels when it comes to bringing women over?

Take a look at The Address Asoke on AirBnB - I used to live there for a year.

Massive pool and decent gym on 8th level, another pool on lvl44, gym lvl45

Every room has bathroom with glass walls and jacuzzi bath so kind of nice when you have a visitor :-)

About 100 meters from Airport Link and MRT, one stop to Asok. Also very easy and fast to go to RCA, about 50 THB taxi. Express way close by which will take you to Khaosan Road for about 150 THB.
Thanks fellas, I’ll look into Airbnb as well.
So I've been able to properly assess and compare every major city in SEA now, having been to nearly all of them except Kuala Lumpur and Phnom Penh... but I can easily give those two cities a pass lol.

Bangkok wins for me, and crushes all other cities in SEA in nearly every category from quality of girls to cost of living and internet speeds. And if I get bored of Thai girls, there are thousands of female tourists coming in from every corner of Asia and elsewhere every day. So... I am most likely relocating there for the long run next month.

I guess I need to find a solution to the ever elusive long-term visa situation. What's the lowdown on obtaining a student language visa or muay thai school visa, and are they easy to get?
(10-07-2018 11:50 AM)asiaslayer Wrote: [ -> ]So I've been able to properly assess and compare every major city in SEA now, having been to nearly all of them except Kuala Lumpur and Phnom Penh... but I can easily give those two cities a pass lol.

Bangkok wins for me, and crushes all other cities in SEA in nearly every category from quality of girls to cost of living and internet speeds. And if I get bored of Thai girls, there are thousands of female tourists coming in from every corner of Asia and elsewhere every day. So... I am most likely relocating there for the long run next month.

I guess I need to find a solution to the ever elusive long-term visa situation. What's the lowdown on obtaining a student language visa or muay thai school visa, and are they easy to get?
Is there a thread about this? If not, you should create one. Of the SE Asian countries I've been to Thailand wins for infrastructure and medical care, Philippines for english ability, and Vietnam for intangibles I can't explain. Breaking it down by city would be awesome.
I’ll be spending winter in Thailand as well. Arriving in BKK tomorrow if anyone is interested in getting together on the weekend. I see a few RVF members in here getting their Thai on!
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