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Try some of the rooftop bars next time you are there Smile Above Eleven is in the same soi as levels club. Quite the view and a very different audience.
Taxi drivers in Bangkok can smell it if someone who isn't familiar with the city enters their taxi. Usually Tuk Tuk drivers are trying to rip you off more often. I have taken approximately 300+ taxis in Bangkok and had only one bad experience. Of course sometimes they refuse to take you. But thats due to the traffic situation and not because they want to rip you off. Unless you try to get one in the touristy areas like Soi 11 or Khaosan
Don't take taxis right outside the club or milling about in the Soi unless you like to negotiate. Walk to the main road or a couple hundred meters away and flag down a passing taxi. The taxi you flag down will almost always agree to meter.
Finding a honest cab in Bangkok is harder than finding a virgin.
In my opinion most taxi drivers are very honest. They will even give back one bath in change. They don't make big profit running the meter hence they will ask for a fixed price when they've been in line outside the nightlife areas for perhaps 30 minutes or more. The layout of Bangkok city planning makes it quite hard to go from point A to point B without a detour. Especially if one wants to go the quickest route.

There is also plenty of virgins in Thailand even in their twenties which is very rare in the west.
I mostly hung around tourist areas, and only met girls from TF. I had about 8 dates from that website, and 7 of them led to an ONS.
But the crowd in TF is probably different. Nearly all cabbies I came across refused to open the meter, the ones at the airport however all agreed to open the meters.

Anyway I don't care about the cabbies asking for a fixed price, the price they ask is dirt cheap anyway so I stopped arguing with them after some while about meters.
Regarding Bangkok, you have to understand that some trips simply are not worth doing at some times. Some roads are almost always gridlocked at certain times, so going by meter can be spending an hour stuck in traffic for very little payoff. Thai cabs rarely even get paid when the car isn't moving. That is why sometimes you get this attitude. Usually when you speak just a bit of Thai they always use the meter and just say no to taking the fare if it's a gridlocked difficult to get to destination.

The key to getting around in Bangkok is learning the BTS/MRT and using motocy drivers from the BTS stations. At night, it's usually never a problem to get a taxi with meter. If with a girl who isn't a whore, then the taxi driver won't try anything on either.
(09-13-2015 03:19 AM)Turkish Republican Wrote: [ -> ]Finding a honest cab in Bangkok is harder than finding a virgin.

that was a funny oneBlush
I never had much trouble getting cabbies to turn on the meter, I always spoke Thai and almost never had to ask.

Though if you get caught out in some tourist area in the evening though you're just going to have to pay a flat fee or take the train. No amount of Thai is going to get a cabbie outside Paragon to open the meter at 9PM because it's not worth it.

And come to think of it I don't think I've ever banged a virgin in the US but I deflowered 2 in Bangkok.
Okay, I'm seriously struggling to make a decision here so any input would be great. In the middle of planning my next Thailand trip and these are the two options I've nailed it down to:

Bangkok- 19th November-1st December
*Flight to Phuket*
Phuket- 1st December-5th December
Phi Phi Islands- 6th December-13th December


Bangkok 3rd December-21st December
*Flight and Ferry Bangkok-Koh Samui*
Koh Samui 21st December-24th December
Koh Phangan 24th December -2nd January
*Flight to Phuket for return flight*
Phuket 2nd January-4th January


Obviously the two major differences between the trips are the timing (High season vs. PEAK season) and whether I travel to the East Coast (Koh Samui/Koh Phangan) or the West Coast (Phuket/Phi Phi). The time of the year I'm going is dry season on the West Coast and the tail end of the wet season on the east coast, but I've already been to the West Coast and never the East Coast. The Full Moon party period will also be in full swing on the Koh Phangan from late December-early January which is the only reason I would want to go to that side.

What I'm most worried about going over Christmas/New Years period is crowds of thirsty men, and to a lesser extent annoying crowds of families, but I gather there will be significantly more women in Thailand partying then as well. The November-mid December option might lower the thirst and the amount of dickheads around, but there also may be less of a party atmosphere/fewer girls and that's the main thing I want.

I did a very similar trip to the first option last year and had a great time so that's the safe option, but I would also like to experience the Xmas/New Years festivities and full moon parties if hoards of idiots aren't going to kill my mood. Finding accommodation is not a factor as I have researched and can spend approximately the same on it for either option.

Experiences/suggestions?
If you're worried about hordes of idiots killing your vibe then I would highly recommend to skip the full moon party.
(09-15-2015 05:11 AM)Kdog Wrote: [ -> ]If you're worried about hordes of idiots killing your vibe then I would highly recommend to skip the full moon party.

Surely the shear amount of easy pussy at the party would outweigh that though? I have good high energy, club game and always back myself in a looks-focused environment so I'm thinking that could go one of two ways at a full moon party.

1) It works to my advantage. Business as usual.

2) I don't stand out as much if it's a sausage fest with hundreds of guys loaded up on drugs running similar game.

It worked beautifully for me on Phi Phi last year, although that was far less crowded in early December and I got lucky with ratios at the time.
I live here since 3 years and speak / write fluent Thai. Getting refusals from taxis is pretty normal, even if it can be frustrating. Fares haven't increased in several years, but cost of life did increase. They make very little money when the car isn't moving, so if they are going to be stuck for 1 hour in traffic for a 4km ride, they won't go.

Taking taxis outside the club is a bad idea, they will likely see you as a "dumb farang" and try to overcharge, no matter how fluent you are. I am fluent, and have the same problem than regular tourists. If several taxis refuse to go to your destination, it means that it probably isn't a good idea to go by car. Consider a motorcycle taxi if it isn't too far.

As for Turkish Republican's comment about finding virgins, by experience it was easy to find some. My main LTR was a virgin, and I think Thailand is great that way, as my beliefs prohibit me from marrying a non-virgin. I will eventually need to get married to get PR status here, so better get a good one.

If you're looking for a great rooftop bar, consider the Octave Sky Bar, at the top of the Mariott near Thong Lor BTS station. A bit pricey, but the vibe is excellent.
(09-15-2015 08:42 AM)Rawmeo Wrote: [ -> ]I live here since 3 years and speak / write fluent Thai. Getting refusals from taxis is pretty normal, even if it can be frustrating. Fares haven't increased in several years, but cost of life did increase. They make very little money when the car isn't moving, so if they are going to be stuck for 1 hour in traffic for a 4km ride, they won't go.

Taking taxis outside the club is a bad idea, they will likely see you as a "dumb farang" and try to overcharge, no matter how fluent you are. I am fluent, and have the same problem than regular tourists. If several taxis refuse to go to your destination, it means that it probably isn't a good idea to go by car. Consider a motorcycle taxi if it isn't too far.

As for Turkish Republican's comment about finding virgins, by experience it was easy to find some. My main LTR was a virgin, and I think Thailand is great that way, as my beliefs prohibit me from marrying a non-virgin. I will eventually need to get married to get PR status here, so better get a good one.

If you're looking for a great rooftop bar, consider the Octave Sky Bar, at the top of the Mariott near Thong Lor BTS station. A bit pricey, but the vibe is excellent.

I agree about octave sky bar. Awesome view. And they have a happy hour every day from 5-7. Very good deal and then the price is quite nice.
Never been to Octave, but been hear about it lately.

What's it like there for gaming? Is it more of a sit at your own table Thai style vibe? Or is there a bit of a party atmosphere?
(09-15-2015 08:42 AM)Rawmeo Wrote: [ -> ]I live here since 3 years and speak / write fluent Thai. Getting refusals from taxis is pretty normal, even if it can be frustrating. Fares haven't increased in several years, but cost of life did increase. They make very little money when the car isn't moving, so if they are going to be stuck for 1 hour in traffic for a 4km ride, they won't go.

Taking taxis outside the club is a bad idea, they will likely see you as a "dumb farang" and try to overcharge, no matter how fluent you are. I am fluent, and have the same problem than regular tourists. If several taxis refuse to go to your destination, it means that it probably isn't a good idea to go by car. Consider a motorcycle taxi if it isn't too far.

As for Turkish Republican's comment about finding virgins, by experience it was easy to find some. My main LTR was a virgin, and I think Thailand is great that way, as my beliefs prohibit me from marrying a non-virgin. I will eventually need to get married to get PR status here, so better get a good one.

If you're looking for a great rooftop bar, consider the Octave Sky Bar, at the top of the Mariott near Thong Lor BTS station. A bit pricey, but the vibe is excellent.

Marriot Thonglor is great. Was at the bar for a private event, but haven't been at a normal night out.
(09-15-2015 11:22 AM)RioNomad Wrote: [ -> ]Never been to Octave, but been hear about it lately.

What's it like there for gaming? Is it more of a sit at your own table Thai style vibe? Or is there a bit of a party atmosphere?

There are actually 3 levels. The top level has a round bar and about 20 seats and a few standing tables. Not too big actually, though there are some parties now and then. The level below the top is a bar with bar seats and a few seperate seating areas. Level below that is seating with food. Don't think its a gaming venue. I usually go there around 6, and drink a few cocktails during the sunset while it's happy hour.

Then move on to other venues.
(09-15-2015 08:42 AM)Rawmeo Wrote: [ -> ]I live here since 3 years and speak / write fluent Thai. Getting refusals from taxis is pretty normal, even if it can be frustrating. Fares haven't increased in several years, but cost of life did increase. They make very little money when the car isn't moving, so if they are going to be stuck for 1 hour in traffic for a 4km ride, they won't go.

Taking taxis outside the club is a bad idea, they will likely see you as a "dumb farang" and try to overcharge, no matter how fluent you are. I am fluent, and have the same problem than regular tourists. If several taxis refuse to go to your destination, it means that it probably isn't a good idea to go by car. Consider a motorcycle taxi if it isn't too far.

As for Turkish Republican's comment about finding virgins, by experience it was easy to find some. My main LTR was a virgin, and I think Thailand is great that way, as my beliefs prohibit me from marrying a non-virgin. I will eventually need to get married to get PR status here, so better get a good one.

If you're looking for a great rooftop bar, consider the Octave Sky Bar, at the top of the Mariott near Thong Lor BTS station. A bit pricey, but the vibe is excellent.

You don't need to be married to obtain PR (permanent residency) in Thailand.
You're right, but being married definitely does help your case, and if I want to have a chance of bringing my girl to spend some time in my home country, being married is a must. Young Thai girls are prohibited from entering Canada, unless they follow one of those options:

- Requesting PR status, 18 months processing time (needs to be married to a Canadian) or
- Having a lot of money and a very good lawyer to request a TRV visa, or
- Being a Muslim

As for Thailand's system to gain PR status, it is way harder. Entering as a tourist is easy, but the path to citizenship is very long and hard. And I think that's good, as they don't hand a Thai passport to any random foreigner. You need to speak and write fluent Thai, show proofs of funds with tax reports (lower requirements if married), wait around a year. If you need citizenship after, you can become a naturalized citizen after 10 years. Here's an interesting read about that:
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1213...plication/
Thai's are actually on the list for Canadian visitor visa which lasts 6 months I believe. If they're educated and have savings or a job they can get the visa proceeded pretty smoothly.
They need a temporary residence visa at the embassy first. Men can easily get the visa, but girls VERY often get rejected under the generic "not enough ties to your home country" reason, which basically means, "I just don't want to see you here". I paid $300 for the visa of my LTR and her mother, and both got denied for that reason. The embassy refused to refund us, but fortunately, I had paid with a credit card online so I just filed a chargeback with my bank.
Maybe it'll be easier if they put Burqas on Big Grin.
What benefits would you really get from being a Thai citizen?
You can't even own 100% of the land you bought if you become a citizen. The Thai commonwealth will always own at least half.

Best way would be to open a business....but that's everywhere and even then it's a long process.
Being a Thai citizen gives you the same rights than Thai people. This is perfect if you come from a country that allows dual citizenship.

The information comes from my lawyer, so I haven't personally tested it, but I assume it is true since an immigration lawyer explained the process to me.

Becoming a citizen enlists you to the same rights than Thai people. You can have a Thai passport, vote, own land, own a business, drive a tuk tuk, drive a taxi, have a Thai National ID card, do politics, no need for visas ever again. You are Thai and show yourself to the border as a Thai national when entering the country. To make it short: you become Thai, but with white skin.
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