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(04-06-2016 06:44 AM)Artiste Wrote: [ -> ]Wilberforceeggmont, I really appreciate your overall contrarian view. I think it's healthy to have a counterpoint to the idea that guys are merely presenting themselves -- notably in Thailand and the Philippines -- and are getting laid not just often but also with **quality** women.

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^ This comic is even more suitable for S.E Asia.

This guy is old school! I remember when this comic was all the rage among foreigners in Japan. Oh my, how times have changed since then.
(04-06-2016 11:09 PM)Bushido Wrote: [ -> ]3. Finally, my biggest grouch with Bangkok girls is their personality. Too flighty, too much drama and high maintenance. Not particularly domestic or caring. There are certainly some very notable exceptions (I've actually managed to find one) but overall the LTR types are in scarce supply. I could overlook the appearance stuff if it wasn't for this aspect of the girls. It's as if they learn how to date by watching retarded TV dramas.


I personally find their flightiness detracts from the drama.

They won't give you tons of shit, but they will probably go out and fuck another guy.

And I find them to be VERY domestic. I'd bring an occasional girl home often, to them pointing out that there is other girls' hair everywhere (not making drama, really) only to wake up to them the next day cleaning my apartment. They will often bring me food that they cooked.
(04-06-2016 11:18 PM)CodyB Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-06-2016 11:09 PM)Bushido Wrote: [ -> ]3. Finally, my biggest grouch with Bangkok girls is their personality. Too flighty, too much drama and high maintenance. Not particularly domestic or caring. There are certainly some very notable exceptions (I've actually managed to find one) but overall the LTR types are in scarce supply. I could overlook the appearance stuff if it wasn't for this aspect of the girls. It's as if they learn how to date by watching retarded TV dramas.


I personally find their flightiness detracts from the drama.

They won't give you tons of shit, but they will probably go out and fuck another guy.

And I find them to be VERY domestic. I'd bring an occasional girl home often, to them pointing out that there is other girls' hair everywhere (not making drama, really) only to wake up to them the next day cleaning my apartment. They will often bring me food that they cooked.

Thanks for the response. To be fair, they are more domestic than western girls. I was comparing to other Asians as a given, but forgot to mention that part. Yes, I'm a spoiled motherfucker.
(04-06-2016 01:07 AM)Armogan Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-06-2016 12:21 AM)wilberforceeggmont Wrote: [ -> ]The only thing left to say is that if you think you're a good looking Aussie who likes Asians and doesn't mind mass approaching, you're better off flying to San Fran and hitting up what you can there. For some reason as I have stated in other threads, the accent goes down a treat.

I've been to San Francisco many times, and was just there last week in fact. To say that an Australian guy should go to San Francisco over Bangkok, if he is looking solely for women, is just bad advice. The girls in Bangkok are just as attractive and more abundant, than the ones in San Francisco. The difference is that they are way easier, and the city is 100x cheaper. And she probably isn't some weird hipster, vegan chick.

Guys here are just sharing their experiences and appreciation for Bangkok. It's not for everyone. There is no sale.

If you want to party 7 days a week in warm weather with feminine asian women Bangkok is a great place. Are there other places you can do that too? Sure, but it ain't San Francisco.

I appreciate there is an anti-San Francisco (SF) sentiment when it comes to notching. The common theme seems to be that the place is full of left leaning hippie chicks or downright feminazis akin to what is apparently found in Toronto. All I can do is relay my success there with the local Asians. I didn't know there were so many there when I first landed. Not having yellow fever, I was nonplussed, but I do fancy the good looking ones. I found them easy to lay. Here's why...

My experience in Australia tells me that Chinese Australian chicks love good cooking without necessarily being good at it themselves, are status-chasers as wealth is THE thing to have in Asia, admire highly-valued employment and grew up in families where the outward showing of affection and love from the mother was stunted and replaced with generalised strictness, mollycoddling, consistent instruction on the importance of doing well at school and also marrying well whilst not doing anything to shame the family. As such, they grow up socially challenged and lack the emotional intelligence to properly connect with Caucasians raised in "normal" loving environments, unless they were exposed to us pretty early on and realised how emotionally sterile their mum was. My first post in this thread spoke about Thai princesses rant about how rich their dads are. That is an example of how bad being a social dullard from an Asian family can get. I went to school with a lot of Asian girls because it was a co-ed private institution and I saw all of this first hand. Look up "Tiger Parenting" and you'll quickly learn all about the Asian way of raising children.

This knowledge allowed me to do well in SF because I know the Chinese American, and to a lesser extent the Vietnamese American, chicks are exactly the same as the Aussie versions. In a nutshell, I recommend an overall confident beta approach. Going in too strong will remind them of how some drunk white guy approached them aggressively at a university party and they shat themselves. Most people say you should go in strong and super confident but I disagree. Get them to talk a lot because they'll end up doing it in an obnoxious way regardless, but always lead the conversation. If Asian males are hanging around understand they are at best fake-Alpha, mostly Beta and even worse - halfway to Zeta. They should be zero threat. Just be cool with them. They never really stop you from picking up in their crew unless they're collectively in "gangsta mode". Is there anything weaker than a physically unimpressive Asian male acting tough? I cycle steroids on and off so they don't even try it with me. Work in to the conversation your cooking sills, whether you can or not, soft sell your great job whether you have it or not and tell them you've just moved, i.e., living in SF for 6-12 months. I got more traction when I told them work put me up in a hotel up until such time as I found another place. American girls lack the street smarts of women from other countries. They seem to have no bullshit radar. Maybe that's why most American men I have met tend to exaggerate and overhype.

Over 13 nights and two separate trips to SF I notched one very high 6 Asian local, a flat 7 Asian local and a legitimately low 8 Asian local. I also notched what I consider to be a flat 7 white Cali native. She said she was from Bakersfield. I'm a properly strict marker.

When I asked the low 8 Asian if she fucked me because of my accent, she giggled and said "Youre all so up yourself!" and walked off in to the bathroom. Cryptic. To this day I have no idea what she was trying to say.

In conclusion, I am left with no option but to state that anyone coming on to this thread and bluntly negating my advice encouraging young Aussies who look good and are willing to approach Asians, to visit SF, just isn't good enough at picking them up in what I concede could well be a tough market for most.
Several people have agreed on some of your points, and I'd agree that Bangkok isn't really a place where a tourist can come in and have great success with 7s and up within a short space of time, but you need to be offering more as an alternative than using steroids and cooking skills to pick up Asians in the west.
^ Agreed, and out of curiosity why exactly do you use steroids?
(04-07-2016 11:14 AM)wilberforceeggmont Wrote: [ -> ]Not having yellow fever, I was nonplussed, but I do fancy the good looking ones.......Over 13 nights and two separate trips to SF
I have no issues with the debate around your points except for this:

Why the fuck would someone living in Oz fly all the way to SF unless there was a legitimate reason to do so, just to bang Asian girls? From anywhere in Oz to SF is quite literally opposite ideas of the globe. Higher quality? Sure, but don't tell us you can't get the odd stunner in Asia and you get laid more.
Going to SF instead of Asia for Asian girls is fucking retarded lol.
(04-07-2016 04:30 PM)Adrenaline Wrote: [ -> ]^ Agreed, and out of curiosity why exactly do you use steroids?

I don't mean to be flippant, but...

Some people love fishing. I hate it.
Some people love ten pin bowling. I hate it.
Some people love conspiracy theories and following the Trump circus or reading up about who exactly had how many millions in Panama. I couldn't care less.

Some people don't care about carrying well above average amounts of muscle. I love it.

One day, probably in about 100 years, my guess is neuroscience will tell us why...
(04-07-2016 05:30 PM)RioNomad Wrote: [ -> ]Going to SF instead of Asia for Asian girls is fucking retarded lol.

If someone like me can go in to parts of Asia and score - without too much hassle - legitimate high 7s and 8s, you may be right... but I doubt it. Again, the locals who Caucasian travellers usually pick up do not interest me. They're too ugly. Some have 9 bodies, but you have to put up with the 4/5/low 6 head. That's 99% of RCA. That's a waste of my time.

I don't believe posters in the Japanese and Taiwan threads who write of flying in, banging 8s+, and flying out a week later. A decent looking Eurasian friend of mine went to South Korea and failed miserably. Another mate with the blonde, surfy type look didn't rate the girls in Tokyo and Osaka he thought went with travellers because of their teeth, bowed legs, stumpiness and pasty skin. Having said that, I do intend to do Taiwan, Japan and South Korea next year- because I want to see them before I get too old. I will publish a data sheet to contribute to this forum and tell the truth about how easy it really is to score in the places which obviously have the best looking Asians, and how attractive the women I screwed really were.

On a final note, I have no doubt that there are white men who have smashed seriously good looking high 8s and 9s in a place like Japan, which I use as an example because that's the place I'm most looking forward to visiting out of the three. However, I would suspect that they speak Japanese, have extremely good jobs, live there and either got the right girl at the right time in what is essentially a conservative and highly xenophobic country or painfully courted them for months...
(04-07-2016 05:26 PM)jj90 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-07-2016 11:14 AM)wilberforceeggmont Wrote: [ -> ]Not having yellow fever, I was nonplussed, but I do fancy the good looking ones.......Over 13 nights and two separate trips to SF
I have no issues with the debate around your points except for this:

Why the fuck would someone living in Oz fly all the way to SF unless there was a legitimate reason to do so, just to bang Asian girls? From anywhere in Oz to SF is quite literally opposite ideas of the globe. Higher quality? Sure, but don't tell us you can't get the odd stunner in Asia and you get laid more.

?? SYD to LA is 13 hours. I travel at night, take a sleeping pill and am there before you know it. The flight itself is completely inconsequential !

I love SF. Happily live there for a year even if it meant only one high 7 bang a month in that period. It pisses on most other large / larger cities in that country if you ask me. Theres a lot I like about the place. Would use it as a base to fly to LV where I have had the most amount of success in America.
(04-07-2016 12:28 PM)Kieran Wrote: [ -> ]Several people have agreed on some of your points, and I'd agree that Bangkok isn't really a place where a tourist can come in and have great success with 7s and up within a short space of time, but you need to be offering more as an alternative than using steroids and cooking skills to pick up Asians in the west.

I agree. I do. You may like to re-read the post.
Talent at RCA has dropped significantly since two years back when this thread started. Better looking girls paragon on a Tuesday afternoon. So to judge Bangkok talent from route66 wouldn't be fair when the average Bangkok girl looks better than the girl who go there. Onix is another story but not many forum members who go there regularly.

But I agree, most farangs in Thailand date ugly girls but if they're happy and satisfied that's good for them.

To write a long post about girls in Tokyo without even going there isn't fair either. I was very satisfied with the girls I met during a week there and that's without speaking a word of Japanese. Now I don't rate girls on a 1-10 scale so I cannot give you a number.
(04-07-2016 11:45 PM)wilberforceeggmont Wrote: [ -> ]They're too ugly. Some have 9 bodies, but you have to put up with the 4/5/low 6 head. That's 99% of RCA. That's a waste of my time.

I think I understand where you are coming from now, and I see the problem. RCA is amateur hour. You have to go to Swing, that is where all the hi-so 8s and 9s are. It's somewhat exclusive and small. I had to run social-circle game just to find it. The best time is 9-12.
(04-07-2016 11:45 PM)wilberforceeggmont Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-07-2016 05:30 PM)RioNomad Wrote: [ -> ]Going to SF instead of Asia for Asian girls is fucking retarded lol.

If someone like me can go in to parts of Asia and score - without too much hassle - legitimate high 7s and 8s, you may be right... but I doubt it. Again, the locals who Caucasian travellers usually pick up do not interest me. They're too ugly. Some have 9 bodies, but you have to put up with the 4/5/low 6 head. That's 99% of RCA. That's a waste of my time.

I don't believe posters in the Japanese and Taiwan threads who write of flying in, banging 8s+, and flying out a week later. A decent looking Eurasian friend of mine went to South Korea and failed miserably. Another mate with the blonde, surfy type look didn't rate the girls in Tokyo and Osaka he thought went with travellers because of their teeth, bowed legs, stumpiness and pasty skin. Having said that, I do intend to do Taiwan, Japan and South Korea next year- because I want to see them before I get too old. I will publish a data sheet to contribute to this forum and tell the truth about how easy it really is to score in the places which obviously have the best looking Asians, and how attractive the women I screwed really were.

On a final note, I have no doubt that there are white men who have smashed seriously good looking high 8s and 9s in a place like Japan, which I use as an example because that's the place I'm most looking forward to visiting out of the three. However, I would suspect that they speak Japanese, have extremely good jobs, live there and either got the right girl at the right time in what is essentially a conservative and highly xenophobic country or painfully courted them for months...

I agree with a lot of what you say, though I also disagree with a lot of it.

My limited time in SF left me with the impression that the white girls there were frumpy and not worth the time, and the Asian girls were much better looking, thinner, dressed better and more feminine. But I don't think they were on the level of BKK girls that a long term resident there could pull, and there is also many more girls to choose from in BKK than SF.

Now for full disclaimer, I have only spend 4 nights in SF total, and Polk street was mostly my night game experience, so there very well may be better (I hope so) places than that.

The best looking girls I saw in SF were probably the local Korean girls at a Korean late night karaoke joint, but they were all with Korean dudes and no one seemed interested in interacting with us white folk.


You've definitely come into a hostile thread though and handled it well. If you stick around the forum you'll find that people handle criticism a lot better once you've been around for a while. We get a lot of low post/no rep newbies trolling around here so even the legit new guys sometimes get blasted until they've established themselves.
Yes I would also recommend swing for quality girls. Climax and spicy are two other good options.

I also wonder why anyone would go to Moscow to bang Russians when everyone know that the best Russians stays in Pattaya. Someone should tell those guys in the Russian thread that they're doing it wrong.
Shock39 is another gem of a place for those in the know. Beats RCA any night of the week.
Aren't the Russians in pataya all with their boyfriends from what I heared?
Guys, is there an existing group of people from the forum in Bangkok already? I've noticed that the Bangkok meet up threads are pretty outdated and haven't seen any responses after I started a new one.

Talking about meeting up for day/night/club game ... of course.
We're all still here, and we all still love Bangkok.

But from here, I'll switch from 'we' to 'I' and speak for myself.

I'm a bit jaded with the guys flying in for four days, shagging 6's from Sukhumvit, then sticking a datasheet up about how to find quality Thai girls from Mixx and Levels.

Those places are great for drunken fun and slaggy girls, and I don't knock anyone for indulging. I do so myself every now and then. It's great fun and it's good to have it there.

But that isn't Bangkok. That's just 0.1% of it. Personally, I get bored of those girls quickly. They are 'Sukhumvit girls'. There's so much more to Bangkok. Most of Bangkok is not Sukhumvit.

I had initially written a lot more here, and was going to tell of a funny story of meeting someone last year who never posts (has zero rep) and claimed a lot from his few days here, but I don't like gossip and I'll keep things to this:

I rack my brain, and after two-and-a-half years here I can only think of five times where I've seen a farang walking with a Thai girl and have felt 'outdone', 'a lesser man' or 'envious'.

I've been trying to think of more examples over the past week, but I can't.

Now, this only counts situations I've seen when walking around during the day or night, a lot happens when I'm inside the house or working. And perhaps I've just forgotten a few other times. That may push it up to ten, or twelve or maybe even fifteen if we really want to be massively conservative.

But it says something. And I thought I'd put my two cents in, seeing how this thread is going at the moment.

I lived in On Nut for over a year. Only saw a farang with a 'knockout' Thai girl once.

And let's be clear, there are many 'knockout' girls in this city! Go have a walk around Siam in the evening. Or many other places which I'm not going to post for lurkers. Just have a walk around places where girls aged 18 to 25 gather.

The number of high-heels I see here every day is insane. Couple that with the amount of long black hair and skinny bodies I see per day and you have a city booming with good-looking women.

You can't judge a whole city's women through what you see at a farang-friendly club on one night on Sukhumvit or in RCA.

Anyway, that's my unstructured two cents

(Note: if people want to attack me or attempt to call me out as a arrogant or something. More than happy to verify myself via trusted forum members I've met here)
(04-09-2016 04:25 PM)LeightonBlackstock Wrote: [ -> ]We're all still here, and we all still love Bangkok.

But from here, I'll switch from 'we' to 'I' and speak for myself.

I'm a bit jaded with the guys flying in for four days, shagging 6's from Sukhumvit, then sticking a datasheet up about how to find quality Thai girls from Mixx and Levels.

Those places are great for drunken fun and slaggy girls, and I don't knock anyone for indulging. I do so myself every now and then. It's great fun and it's good to have it there.

But that isn't Bangkok. That's just 0.1% of it. Personally, I get bored of those girls quickly. They are 'Sukhumvit girls'. There's so much more to Bangkok. Most of Bangkok is not Sukhumvit.

I had initially written a lot more here, and was going to tell of a funny story of meeting someone last year who never posts (has zero rep) and claimed a lot from his few days here, but I don't like gossip and I'll keep things to this:

I rack my brain, and after two-and-a-half years here I can only think of five times where I've seen a farang walking with a Thai girl and have felt 'outdone', 'a lesser man' or 'envious'.

I've been trying to think of more examples over the past week, but I can't.

Now, this only counts situations I've seen when walking around during the day or night, a lot happens when I'm inside the house or working. And perhaps I've just forgotten a few other times. That may push it up to ten, or twelve or maybe even fifteen if we really want to be massively conservative.

But it says something. And I thought I'd put my two cents in, seeing how this thread is going at the moment.

I lived in On Nut for over a year. Only saw a farang with a 'knockout' Thai girl once.

And let's be clear, there are many 'knockout' girls in this city! Go have a walk around Siam in the evening. Or many other places which I'm not going to post for lurkers. Just have a walk around places where girls aged 18 to 25 gather.

The number of high-heels I see here every day is insane. Couple that with the amount of long black hair and skinny bodies I see per day and you have a city booming with good-looking women.

You can't judge a whole city's women through what you see at a farang-friendly club on one night on Sukhumvit or in RCA.

Anyway, that's my unstructured two cents

(Note: if people want to attack me or attempt to call me out as a arrogant or something. More than happy to verify myself via trusted forum members I've met here)

Leighton, it would appear that it was my post which changed the direction of this thread and that you would agree with half of it. Not sure if you read it. Im the guy who basically called out all of the blokes saying they banged women who were "hot" and a "glamour" etc when all I saw in my 9 week stay was bodies with steaming turds as heads, and the odd high 6 and low 7. I never meant it as a personal affront. How could it be when I dont know who these guys are? For all I know they're Thai nationals with English skills who work for the national Tourism Authority. Any 8 I saw, if I did - was from a distance. I went everywhere, so a lot of it was outside of Sukhumvit - and I spent many nights in "Thai only" clubs, apparently. I appreciate using numbers is arbitrary and any argument emanating from it is akin to a dog chasing its tail, but the point gets made nonetheless.

It is entirely fascinating to me that you would live there for two and a half years. That in itself deserves a mention and why I am replying to your post. Don't you miss white pussy? The white stuff I saw in Cheap Charlies was pretty poor. I have heard Seduction in Phuket gets good white tourists up for a bang.

On the other points in your post, it is my understanding that all of the women in Mixx and Levels are prostitutes. Is this what you refer to as "Sukhumvit girls" or is that more of a generic term for women who chase white cock? I went to Siam Paragon to eat over twenty times because I lived within walking distance. Never saw a girl of note, except for a promo model who was in front of a Jewellery shop or something like that. She was nice, but again, did everything she could to look white.

Having long shiny hair, being skinny and wearing heels doesn't make your face attractive. Its feminine, so it helps, but I can see better looking girls in Singapore over a weekend than I ever will in Bangkok. Best Thai lookers I saw were in Pattaya gogo bars. They had dancers bodies and work done to their faces.

I have heard that the G clubs have lookers in them because the girls are young and have fake tits and fake faces but the thought of sitting there and paying for company is horrifying.

0898

"Best Thai lookers I saw were in Pattaya gogo bars. They had dancers bodies and work done to their faces."

Ok can safely ignore any opinions you have on Thai women's looks now. I have to go to Pattaya on business from time to time and the standard of women is appalling.

Interesting that you're happy to frequent gogo's but find the idea of the higher end version "horrifying"
(04-10-2016 02:51 AM)0898 Wrote: [ -> ]"Best Thai lookers I saw were in Pattaya gogo bars. They had dancers bodies and work done to their faces."

Ok can safely ignore any opinions you have on Thai women's looks now. I have to go to Pattaya on business from time to time and the standard of women is appalling.

Interesting that you're happy to frequent gogo's but find the idea of the higher end version "horrifying"

Who said I'm happy to frequent gogo's? YOU JUST MADE THAT UP!!

The truth is I have been once, for three nights, because I had no choice by way of being a groomsman on a Buck's Party. From what I saw, the taller, lighter well toned dancers with fake tits and fake faces were significantly more attractive than what you get in the general populous of Bangkok. Having spent 9 weeks in Bangkok for work and having to go back there and to Pattaya for a Buck's Party, the top 5 best looking women I saw up close in Thailand were working at Baccara and Sensations. Each about 5'7", terrific bodies, fake tits, nose jobs and whatever else... FACT.

In reference to the "higher end", I've never been to a G club in Bangkok despite being invited on two separate occasions because paying for company is horrifying to me. FACT.

Your post was constructed on the premise of an incorrect assumption. Pathetic.
(04-10-2016 04:08 AM)wilberforceeggmont Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-10-2016 02:51 AM)0898 Wrote: [ -> ]"Best Thai lookers I saw were in Pattaya gogo bars. They had dancers bodies and work done to their faces."

Ok can safely ignore any opinions you have on Thai women's looks now. I have to go to Pattaya on business from time to time and the standard of women is appalling.

Interesting that you're happy to frequent gogo's but find the idea of the higher end version "horrifying"
Each about 5'7", terrific bodies, fake tits, nose jobs and whatever else... FACT.

You should have mentioned earlier that you are into Ladyboys. Now it all makes sense.

0898

I can only assume you spent your 9 weeks in Bangkok trapped in a cave if the best women you saw in Thailand were some tapped out skanks in a Pattaya gogo. I think it's fair to say you're not fooling anyone at this point.
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