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(10-18-2016 04:31 AM)JayD Wrote: [ -> ]I should have quoted my initial post. I am thinking of either renting or buying a motorbike.

(10-12-2016 06:51 AM)JayD Wrote: [ -> ]I'm planning to travel to Thailand again and renting a motorbike and just riding around and exploring. Has anyone previously done something similar to this?

Few questions:
Would you buy the motorbike in Thailand or get it shipped in? I'm thinking a Honda 400cc at least should be good.
Whens the best time to do it?
Possible to ferry a motorbike over to check out the islands?
Cheers guys

Oops I must be slow today. Big Grin
You can rent a bike for 2000-3000b per month, or you could buy one for around 20,000b~ (2nd hand) and sell it for about the same. Renting would be the easier and quicker option. This is for a 150c Honda Click or something in that range.

You can take your bike on a ferry to the islands too.
(10-18-2016 04:24 AM)Bushido Wrote: [ -> ]Should also add that rentals are meanwhile the best value anywhere in the world. Rent don't buy.

https://smartasset.com/mortgage/price-to...-us-cities

Where do you figure Bangkok fits in this list? Like what could you get for $1000 USD (35k baht) a month?

Obviously I take some of these figures with a grain of salt as especially the San Francisco numbers ($1000 rent vs $550k buy) don't really jive with what's on the ground. I mean shitshacks routinely go for $1m+, I can't imagine what kind of flophouse would sell for $550 in that city.

Still, I think Price/Rent ratio's are generally useful and you seem to have a strong belief that they're great value.
I'd say 35K Baht would get you a nice 50SQM new apartment around Thonglor which would sell on the market for around 12M THB or 350K USD.
Nice call, CodyB... seems like that +/- 30 price/rent ratio holds up for the really high end spots too. 200k month rent at the Ritz Carlton Residences that's going for 69.375 Million Baht.

https://www.hipflat.co.th/en/bangkok/con...mahanakhon
So this past weekend BKK nightlife from what I've seen didn't shutdown completely, but it's very subdued relative to normal times.

I've only seen pic/videos of Khao San and Nana/Cowboy, does anyone have an update on RCA/Ekkamai/Suk?
In Sukhumvit Soi 11 now....Levels closed at 12 and very much a subdued vibe around here. Haven't yet ventured to the other areas but heard Nana is still open. Snagged a local online earlier so that's always an option. Tinder is full (as always) with ladyboys so tread carefully gents.
(10-24-2016 12:23 PM)jj90 Wrote: [ -> ]So this past weekend BKK nightlife from what I've seen didn't shutdown completely, but it's very subdued relative to normal times.

I've only seen pic/videos of Khao San and Nana/Cowboy, does anyone have an update on RCA/Ekkamai/Suk?

Route was open Friday till 12
(10-25-2016 12:43 AM)Dragonslayer Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-24-2016 12:23 PM)jj90 Wrote: [ -> ]So this past weekend BKK nightlife from what I've seen didn't shutdown completely, but it's very subdued relative to normal times.

I've only seen pic/videos of Khao San and Nana/Cowboy, does anyone have an update on RCA/Ekkamai/Suk?

Route was open Friday till 12

Route closed at 2am this Friday.
(10-25-2016 01:02 AM)Satoshi Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-25-2016 12:43 AM)Dragonslayer Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-24-2016 12:23 PM)jj90 Wrote: [ -> ]So this past weekend BKK nightlife from what I've seen didn't shutdown completely, but it's very subdued relative to normal times.

I've only seen pic/videos of Khao San and Nana/Cowboy, does anyone have an update on RCA/Ekkamai/Suk?

Route was open Friday till 12

Route closed at 2am this Friday.

That's somewhat encouraging... how about the general vibe of the place?
Route closed down at 2am last night as well, on a Tuesday. It's directly outside my window and I can usually hear the music even if it is faint. Last night I couldn't hear shit until closing time and all of the Taxi drivers were getting randy.
Was busy like a weekday. Thonglo closed at midnight though. This is actually quite good for dates.
Hi guys. As usual, keep up the good stuff, I haven't set foot in BKK that I already have awesome tips (and 4 dates thanks to tinder), it's gonna be awesome! If some mate want to grab a drink during next week, hit me up!
As a new guy, the Bangkok crew is a hard nut to crack. If I have to rely on Asian women as my sole source of intellectual stimulation for a single more day, Bangkok is gonna have an Elliot Rodgers situation on its hands.

In other news, I finally found a 4chan autist shitlord out in the wild. I'm at khao San huffing laughing gas with a German chick when some shitfaced ginger stumbles past us yelling TRUMP PENCE 2016. I figured this had to be good for a few laughs so I sat him down with us which was probably a mistake. He refused to identify as anything other than "European" and he kept on asking the German girl how many black guys she fucked. It was hilarious at first but eventually I had to tell him to fuck off and when he refused I physically removed him and unintentionally knocked him on his ass. He didn't stop screaming "JEW!" the entire time. Girl was already hooking but the pussy floodgates were flowing out of control after that. Fun night.
(11-05-2016 03:15 AM)el mavericko Wrote: [ -> ]As a new guy, the Bangkok crew is a hard nut to crack. If I have to rely on Asian women as my sole source of intellectual stimulation for a single more day, Bangkok is gonna have an Elliot Rodgers situation on its hands.

In other news, I finally found a 4chan autist shitlord out in the wild. I'm at khao San huffing laughing gas with a German chick when some shitfaced ginger stumbles past us yelling TRUMP PENCE 2016. I figured this had to be good for a few laughs so I sat him down with us which was probably a mistake. He refused to identify as anything other than "European" and he kept on asking the German girl how many black guys she fucked. It was hilarious at first but eventually I had to tell him to fuck off and when he refused I physically removed him and unintentionally knocked him on his ass. He didn't stop screaming "JEW!" the entire time. Girl was already hooking but the pussy floodgates were flowing out of control after that. Fun night.

Fun story! Looks like you handled it very well Big Grin. How long have you been in Bangkok -- is this a long time thing or just a temporary asylum, so to speak? I'm curious because I'm have been here for a week now and want to understand how quickly expats adapt.
In BKK now. PM me if you wanna go for drinks, get crazy.
So reports of nightlife in BKK being dead are far overrated. Was out last night(Friday) at RCA and both Route and Onyx were going till 230am with massive turnout.

If you spend time at Nana and Cowboy, yes those shut at 1230am but I don't think too many hangout there. Khao San was shutting down earlier around the same time.

On the weekdays certain places may be shutting down earlier but even so you can find places that are open past midnight, look around Ratchada. Was at an after hours club in Nonthanburi way the fuck out there and it was going past 5am Sat morning.

On a side note, the 1st hour after landing in BKK I was reminded why the fuck I'm getting out of the west.
Anyone know a reliable place in Bangkok to get blood work done?
Check for STDs?
The red cross clinic http://en.trcarc.org/?page_id=632
Second that, the Thai Red Cross clinic is the best (only?) place I know of to get completely anonymous testing in Asia. Not a lot of waiting involved either. Prices are more than reasonable, got a full panel of STD tests done for 600thb. It's about a 5-10 minute walk from the Silom MRT.

If you have health insurance or want to go to a big hospital, there are plenty of good hospitals but I don't think any of them do tests that are truly anonymous.

By the way, I don't always wrap up, but I do in BKK.
BANGKOK 2016

My style
French, white russian look, mid-twenties, correct game and reasonably good looking. I’m rarely attracted to Asians so I wasn’t the most active. Yet I got my flag, some dates and fun. My buddy knows Thailand pretty well (it’s his 9th time) and passed me some of the knowledge below.

2 societies into 1
There is the low class and the middle/high class.
For the 1st, the girls speak bad English, rarely travel (and if yes, usually not abroad), a lot come from Esan (north east region of Thailand) and are often dark skinned. A lot of them are either :
-a professional whore. My buddy fucked some after hours (they hang in bars after 2am in Cowboy Soi) without paying. Wouldn’t recommend (STDs/Theft/…)
-an “amateur” whore. I met one in a regular bar, she worked there. She practically throw herself in my arms. We talked some much and I brought her to my hotel. We kissed and them the said to me “I usually don’t come home for free”. I made it clear I wouldn’t pay anything and she left. But apparently, if I had paid her a drink, it would have been enough. But a cheap whore (probably since I’m good looking) stays a whore. She told me all the girls who works in bars are prostitutes on the sides. When I asked her why she didn’t tell me sooner, it was because I didn’t stated clearly I wanted sex. What a dumb manipulative bitch, no one ever does that unless you wanna scare the girl away. Wouldn’t recommend (STDs/Theft/…)
-Sponsored girls. These one are less dumb but more manipulative. They hook beta (thai ?) men who work away and send them money each months. They use lines like “the buffalo of my family’s farm is dead” or “I need money to live decently”, etc. But these beta don’t know that she can have like 6 sponsors and as a result have around $6k each months. With a bit of game, you can bed them, but I feel they still expect to be paid everything. Proceed with caution or dump after ONS.
If you feel she’s a bit too easy to game, she’s probably one of the girls above.

Then, there is the middle/high class, definitely more my style. They speak proper English, have travelled a bit, have decent jobs, and in my experience only dates farangs (2 of my dates told me so). There are 1 million expats in Bangkok (plus the travellers), so don’t expect real “foreigner points”. For my fellow Frenchmen, don’t expect much by using French charm: I was surprised how much French are in BKK! During dates, she will pay for her half even after you proposed to invite her : 2 out of 3 of my dates did so. They are feminine and clearly respond better to the "guy is in charge and has a role of leader" whereas you have to add lots of fun in the west.

How to spot a ladyboy
The best way: ask directly. Just explain that you are new and some are hardly recognizable. No problem at all. I advise to do it with every girl just in case, you can be surprised… If you still have doubts (do know that when the “guy” is fully operated and has a “vagina”, he/she won’t tell you he/she is a ladyboy) ask for the id card : it’s clearly stated miss or mister and cannot be changed.
Other signs that can be used : slightly big hands, adam’s apple, weird vibe
But let me reassure you : I had 0 problem with that.

Guys
They are so effeminate/unsexy and not aggressive that I don’t expect any competition unless from farangs.

Gaming thai
I’m only gonna speak for the middle/high class as I didn’t really have experience with the lower class (not my style). Contrarily to several years ago, I sensed that you do need some game to bed thai. I read nonsense (or outdated?) here stating “Be chivalrous” or “Don’t do kino”… BS?
Keep your western game, but drop negs (slight tease from time to time only), diminish slightly kinos (especially in public or be more discreet) and expect less shit tests. Wait to be at your place to kiss.
I had a great date with a classy thai (met in salsa club), brought her to my hotel, kiss, brought topless but impossible to go further. I was really charming, turning her on (she was shaking of desire!) but she told me it was too fast. In France/USA I would have gotten the bang. With a 2nd date, I probably would have sealed the deal.
In BKK, girls are incredibly attached to their friends. I lost 2 girls by counting on them to drop their friends at some point. So if you met her in a club, stick to her and her friends until the end: don’t try to isolate, she will refuse. After, you can try to set a date or pull directly.

Pipelining (Tinder)
I had a shit tons of matches on Tinder (to be fair, my 1st pic look model-like) but lost a lot of them as I couldn’t meet the next day or in a short amount of time. Pipeline for 5 days tops, speak a little bit and go for the number quick. Then call them (no text) and arrange for the meetup.
Careful: on their profile, a lot of them say “here for friends”. For some, it’s bullshit just in case the guy isn’t attractive (one of my dates), for others, they meant it (another of my dates who wouldn’t even kiss even though we had a great time). So screen a bit…
A lot of my dates (and my flag) were from tinder, so use it in BKK!!

Venues
As said before, I wasn’t very active, but some of the venues worth mentioning:
-Oskar (Sukhumvit 11) : lounge bar (a bit expensive – western price) great for dates
-Havana social (around Sukhumvit 11) : secret bar of BKK, a Thai got me there. Can be found on google map; when you arrive, look for a telephone in a wall in a tiny street. Press “#” and the door opens. Super venue ideal for a date with nice cocktails – expect 700 bahts for 2 cocktails.
-Route 66 – RCA: nice nightclubs, 3 rooms, lots of good looking chicks but a bit shy. Approach only after eye contact, use forcing IOIs a lot – works like hell. Don’t isolate, stay with her and her friend!

Other
I’m not into daygame, but it seems it works quite well there. If I had, I’m confident I would have gotten better results, but as stated, I’m not too much into Asians girls (I had to try though)
No joke about the royal family/the king : 1st it’s a crime and the people love them. It will lower your value.
Except restaurant, almost everything is negociable. Tuk tuk and taxi increase 5 times the price just because you’re a foreigner. Be direct, state your destination and price and it will be okay. If not, find another one. If you’re with a thai, let her do the talking, the prices will be even lower.

Hope it helps
(11-13-2016 05:56 AM)James Bond Next level Wrote: [ -> ]2 societies into 1
There is the low class and the middle/high class.
For the 1st, the girls speak bad English, rarely travel (and if yes, usually not abroad), a lot come from Esan (north east region of Thailand) and are often dark skinned. A lot of them are either :
-a professional whore. My buddy fucked some after hours (they hang in bars after 2am in Cowboy Soi) without paying. Wouldn’t recommend (STDs/Theft/…)
-an “amateur” whore. I met one in a regular bar, she worked there. She practically throw herself in my arms. We talked some much and I brought her to my hotel. We kissed and them the said to me “I usually don’t come home for free”. I made it clear I wouldn’t pay anything and she left. But apparently, if I had paid her a drink, it would have been enough. But a cheap whore (probably since I’m good looking) stays a whore. She told me all the girls who works in bars are prostitutes on the sides. When I asked her why she didn’t tell me sooner, it was because I didn’t stated clearly I wanted sex. What a dumb manipulative bitch, no one ever does that unless you wanna scare the girl away. Wouldn’t recommend (STDs/Theft/…)
-Sponsored girls. These one are less dumb but more manipulative. They hook beta (thai ?) men who work away and send them money each months. They use lines like “the buffalo of my family’s farm is dead” or “I need money to live decently”, etc. But these beta don’t know that she can have like 6 sponsors and as a result have around $6k each months. With a bit of game, you can bed them, but I feel they still expect to be paid everything. Proceed with caution or dump after ONS.
If you feel she’s a bit too easy to game, she’s probably one of the girls above.

Then, there is the middle/high class, definitely more my style. They speak proper English, have travelled a bit, have decent jobs, and in my experience only dates farangs (2 of my dates told me so). There are 1 million expats in Bangkok (plus the travellers), so don’t expect real “foreigner points”. For my fellow Frenchmen, don’t expect much by using French charm: I was surprised how much French are in BKK! During dates, she will pay for her half even after you proposed to invite her : 2 out of 3 of my dates did so. They are feminine and clearly respond better to the "guy is in charge and has a role of leader" whereas you have to add lots of fun in the west.

There is much more than just these 2 classes.

- There are low class, bottom of the barrel girls who usually work as hookers. Can be found mostly between Sukhumvit 1 and BTS Asok (Climax, Insomnia, Mixx)

- Then there are low class girls who don't have much money and only go to Khaosan road if they are into foreigners or not go out at all. They aren't necessarily hookers. They usually go to some bullshit university where they learn nothing (e.g. Rajabat, Rajamangala). A lot of them are into foreigners and because of their low status, these girls are extremely easy to bed.

- Then there are middle class university girls who are originally from another part of Thailand but moved to Bangkok to study. Those girls don't have much money but aren't exactly low class. They usually go to Khaosan as well because it is cheap. I know some girls who go to the most prestigious universities in Thailand (e.g. Chulalongkorn, Thammasat, Mahidol) but are poor as fuck because they don't live with their parents. The girls from this category that do go out, are usually into farangs and fuck around a lot (I guess because they are far away from their family and can do what they want).

- Then there are the middle class university girls who are from Bangkok. Their parents are middle class and pay for all their expenses but they aren't really that rich so that they can go out in Thonglor every week. A lot of these girls go to RCA instead.

- Then there are middle class girls who already graduated and have a bit more money. They are usually in their mid twenties to early thirties. A lot of them go to places like Levels, Sugar, RCA and Ce La Vi but nowadays also Thonglor. They are basically the evolution of the poor university girl. Some of these girls are looking for an older guy who lives in Bangkok and can give them a better life. Some are just normal girls with a normal job looking for a boyfriend. Some are just sluts who want white dick. Some work as a semi-hooker (usually the ones at Levels).

- Then there are the upper class university girls. Their parents are usually from Bangkok and have quite some money. They either go to one of the elite public universities (Thammasat, Chulalongkorn or Mahidol) or to one of the private unis (Siam University, Bangkok University, ABAC) if their high school grades are too bad. Sometimes they also go to universities in Europe or the US if their parents can afford it. The ones who study overseas are easier to bang than the ones who never left Bangkok. They usually go out in Thonglor with daddy's credit card and have a Thai boyfriend who is from a wealthy family as well.

- Then there are the upper class graduated girls, basically the evolution of the upper class university girls. They almost exlusively hang out in Thonglor and many foreigners mistake them with hi-so girls just because they have money and drive a car. From my experience, they are a bit easier to bang than the upper class university girls.

- Then, there are the hi-so girls. Very hard to bang for foreigners. They either come from a family that is somehow related to the royal family or to some other rich and well-known family in Thailand. Or they are some kind of celebrity (actor, model, TV personality, etc.).

If you are talking to a girl and want to know your chances of banging her, the best thing you can do is find out to which university she goes, where she originally comes from and where she usually goes out.
Personally I don't care much about how much money a girl have. Unless she's a hooker obviously. But the poorer girls work more and have less free time, and some of them are super boring to be with. Richer girls are usually more flaky.
@RagnarLothbrok: You got that right.

I'd like to add something about sponsored girls - they are the stereotypical "scammer Thai lady" that most foreigners have heard about. They'll come to you, often in a bar, and not bang with you on the first night - they'll try to create a bond instead. You'll bang her, go on dates with her, she'll even show you her family. But...

Her "brother" who doesn't seem to like you is actually her husband, and he doesn't like "sharing" his wife but knows he needs to if he wants something to eat.
Once you'll be away, she'll call you on Skype, turn on the waterworks, and make up a dramatic story: her father is in the hospital due to a bad accident and needs money for the bills right now. He's dying. The poor girl is crying and is about to lose her dad. So you promptly send her some money. They she says she'll be back because she needs to "go pay that bill". Instead, she calls the second foreigner in the rotation, and plays the same game. After 4-5 guys, she goes to Western Union, greets the cashier with a "oh, you again" smile, collects the jackpot, and thinks you're an idiot.

I had an old friend from school who fell in love with a bargirl - who I've banged before but never had the guts to tell him. On the above scale, she's between "bottom of the barrel" and "low class". I keep telling this old chap to not get involved in anything more than sex. He kept thinking that she loves him for who he is. My buddy and I kept trying to reasonate him but he wouldn't listen. He's now back in his country, poorer than before, and vower to never return here. Some people have to learn the hard way.

It might be worth saying, you won't meet the traditional "potential wife" in a bar, unless you get VERY lucky. Most of those girls do not go out like that. And remember, the easier you got the lay, the easier the other guys got it.

Althrough I sometimes find Bangkok to be an intellectual vacuum, Thai people still have family values that the West has lost decades ago. I'd prefer a poorer girl with a complete family anytime over a richer girl that studied in USA and comes from a broken home. That's precisely what happened with my wife - she graduated from a tier 2 university, and her parents aren't that well-off, however her family is complete, she has no previous boyfriends, and changed her last name to mine. Most importantly, she didn't argue at all while signing the prenup. Our legal counsel did the job and there was no hiccup whatsoever.

Tinder will give good results if you're looking for a mini-relationship or a ONS, but for better girls, you have to speak Thai, understand the culture, and be knowledgeable about their history. I was at the grand palace at the king's funeral, and I didn't see many foreigners there. This alone gives you points with better girls.

Like Satoshi, I don't really care how much money the girl has, as long as she has no issues supporting herself. I tend to be pretty generous, and I treat my plates very well, but I don't want to have to provide for anyone.
(11-14-2016 02:54 AM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote: [ -> ]- Then there are low class girls who don't have much money and only go to Khaosan road if they are into foreigners or not go out at all. They aren't necessarily hookers. They usually go to some bullshit university where they learn nothing (e.g. Rajabat, Rajamangala). A lot of them are into foreigners and because of their low status, these girls are extremely easy to bed.

Sounds a lot like what I called "amateur whore". As told, mine only needed that I pay one drink to be "free"... Game is game everywhere : poosy paradise is a myth or doesn't exist anymore. You can find better odds, more feminine women and hotter ones, but you won't bang is a blink of an eye, you still need decent game. When it's too easy, something is often wrong (yet happened to me several times outside thailand)
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