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I'm prodiminantly referring to the nightlife when I say Bangkok isn't that great anymore. I don't do much day game or online game because quite frankly, it bores the fuck out of me, but I'm sure there's heaps of areas to explore day game wise that will still yield exceptional results. To me, being a non-Asian foreigner and trying to pick up anything of high quality (7.5+) in bars/clubs is not a good game to play in Bangkok without a social circle, no matter how young or good looking you are. Throw in all the semi pros, pros and lady boys, and it's not an ideal environment. I got laid a lot from various nightlife locations, don't get me wrong, but the quality wasn't there and I actually back myself to pick up higher quality girls in the west considering the girls are usually loose as fuck and there's no stigma to fight against. That's all I'm saying. Bangkok is still amazingly fun. The vibe of the city is addicting, and you can create memorable experiences and bang average quality girls until your heart is content.
(03-13-2017 01:08 AM)Adrenaline Wrote: [ -> ]I'm prodiminantly referring to the nightlife when I say Bangkok isn't that great anymore. I don't do much day game or online game because quite frankly, it bores the fuck out of me, but I'm sure there's heaps of areas to explore day game wise that will still yield exceptional results. To me, being a non-Asian foreigner and trying to pick up anything of high quality (7.5+) in bars/clubs is not a good game to play in Bangkok without a social circle, no matter how young or good looking you are. Throw in all the semi pros, pros and lady boys, and it's not an ideal environment. I got laid a lot from various nightlife locations, don't get me wrong, but the quality wasn't there and I actually back myself to pick up higher quality girls in the west considering the girls are usually loose as fuck and there's no stigma to fight against. That's all I'm saying. Bangkok is still amazingly fun. The vibe of the city is addicting, and you can create memorable experiences and bang average quality girls until your heart is content.

What's boring about online game? High quality girls you find online do require "game" to close the deal. They aren't going to go straight to your apartment. Its pretty much the same routine as hitting on a girl in a night spot. The difference is you can relatively judge her sober (huge diff) and you don't have to deal with cock blocking friends or other logistical issues.

Almost all the girls in the nightlife scene are probably on Tinder anyways, at least in Bangkok.

Now if your photos suck, or unlucky with genetics, then sure day time / nightlife does provide an option to get girls you wouldn't normally match with.

I like the concept / thrill of "day game" but hitting the streets and spending a couple hours chasing girls doesn't sound like a good use of time personally. Although if I do see a cutie while doing errands ill try and chat her up.
(03-13-2017 12:06 AM)Mr. Scumbag Wrote: [ -> ]Haha. I really don't understand why people get their panties in a bunch when others proclaim a place to be 'dead' or even just report on the current state of things. People should have the right to know whether a city or country is still good or not. Not drop a couple grand or more on flight and hotel, flying half way across the world only to not get laid because they read about a city being a pussy paradise based on intel that's already 5 or 10 years old. Personally, I would be very, very pissed off if that happened to me.

And even if these guys are lying (in most cases, they probably aren't) it just means more poosy for you anyway since less people will come.

On the contrary I'm perfectly happy for the freeloading lurkers on the forum who suck up all the info yet contribute nothing to drop a couple grand and fly halfway across the world just to be left dick in hand.

Those who however give back to the forum can reach out to the various country and city 'experts' as it were, they'll be more than happy to help you out if you make the effort (as opposed to a zero reps zero post random spamming the usual 'where do I go to get laid for zero effort and is within my $20 a day budget)

Even better some of us actually go and meet up with eachother! *shock and sometimes even form WhatsApp groups and inner circles to share info and experiences.

More than happy to share info and help out those who return the favor
(03-13-2017 12:06 AM)Mr. Scumbag Wrote: [ -> ]Haha. I really don't understand why people get their panties in a bunch when others proclaim a place to be 'dead' or even just report on the current state of things. People should have the right to know whether a city or country is still good or not. Not drop a couple grand or more on flight and hotel, flying half way across the world only to not get laid because they read about a city being a pussy paradise based on intel that's already 5 or 10 years old. Personally, I would be very, very pissed off if that happened to me.

And even if these guys are lying (in most cases, they probably aren't) it just means more poosy for you anyway since less people will come.

"People should have the right to know"?

Holy entitlement Batman.

That's not even considering that different people have different experiences in the same places, and no amount of reports is going to objectively quantify a massive metropolis down to some arbitrary "pussy per hour" key metric or whatever it is that all these autistic value-leeching zero rep wonders would like to read whenever they're scouring threads for free intel.
(03-13-2017 12:06 AM)Mr. Scumbag Wrote: [ -> ]Haha. I really don't understand why people get their panties in a bunch when others proclaim a place to be 'dead' or even just report on the current state of things. People should have the right to know whether a city or country is still good or not. Not drop a couple grand or more on flight and hotel, flying half way across the world only to not get laid because they read about a city being a pussy paradise based on intel that's already 5 or 10 years old. Personally, I would be very, very pissed off if that happened to me.

And even if these guys are lying (in most cases, they probably aren't) it just means more poosy for you anyway since less people will come.

Believe it or not, our panties aren't in a bunch, and most of us could care less whether folks go to Bangkok or not. We just think some of you guys are hilarious and we enjoy making fun of you.
In this last trip, I found a shooting range, 5 mins walk from bang na bts if not less.

It is a navy complex, open for public. Closes at 5pm, last bullet orders at 4.30pm.

Farang rates : 5 bullets for 500 baht (.22, .45, .38 calibre)

Thai rates : 25 bullets for 300-650 baht (.22, 9mm, .45, .38 calibre)

I shot glock 17, 21 and a .38 revolver.

Bring a thai chick with you and you can share bullets with each other, not a bad date idea. I can see myself taking a hiso chick here.

Google Maps
I agree online game is much more easier but its very hard to get a meet during a weekday.
Thai girls seem reluctant to come out during weekday as they have to work but come the weekend
they are always up for it. Online game for me takes abit of time and a lot of filtering out the ones who
wont be up for it. Though, i have had the most conversion rate from online game.

I have found that majority on tinder that i have connected with ranging from age (21-32) tends to be
from universities such as Chula, Thammasat, Manidol, Abac - like the main top universities that speak english.
These girls are the kind who tend to be hanging around the clubs such as Beam/Demo/Nunglen etc.
(03-13-2017 05:59 AM)Irish Wrote: [ -> ]On the contrary I'm perfectly happy for the freeloading lurkers on the forum who suck up all the info yet contribute nothing to drop a couple grand and fly halfway across the world just to be left dick in hand.

Hi

Freeloading lurker here.

You really really really don't want someone like me submitting datasheets and claiming false expertise in game. The one thing worse than no information is bad information.

You don't believe me? check out r/theredpill on reddit. No-game newbs make long pseudoauthoritive posts when even a novice like me can see how bullshit it is.
(03-13-2017 08:36 PM)Transsimian Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2017 05:59 AM)Irish Wrote: [ -> ]On the contrary I'm perfectly happy for the freeloading lurkers on the forum who suck up all the info yet contribute nothing to drop a couple grand and fly halfway across the world just to be left dick in hand.

Hi

Freeloading lurker here.

You really really really don't want someone like me submitting datasheets and claiming false expertise in game. The one thing worse than no information is bad information.

You don't believe me? check out r/theredpill on reddit. No-game newbs make long pseudoauthoritive posts when even a novice like me can see how bullshit it is.

So you really have absolutely no knowledge or expertise in anything at all that you can contribute to the forum?

Im sure you don't suck at life that much, I see you already have one rep for something you wrote before. Clearly someone took value from that.
(03-12-2017 09:04 PM)Bushido Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-12-2017 02:22 PM)hudsonhicks Wrote: [ -> ]Nearly every time i get matched on Tinder in Bangkok it's either a 7 or a Ladyboy.

I guess it's saturated now just like being back home in England or the West. The hotties have 99% of the likes which means the queue in the algorithm is very long and they are extremely picky with such a great choice of men.

I know a failsafe way for talking to hot girls instead of mediocre ones. Put down your phone and go approach some girls in real life.

I completely agree but its nice to have some girls lined up and some groundwork laid before you fly out there. Good for moral knowing you're flying into some dead cert pussy rather than flying into the unknown abyss and a hell of a lot of work Big Grin

It is my dream to find a Thai lady MILF in her 30s/ early 40s who's older than me who has a lot of money.
I can move into her Condo and she can give me a nice sugar mommy wage Banana
(03-13-2017 09:25 PM)Irish Wrote: [ -> ]So you really have absolutely no knowledge or expertise in anything at all that you can contribute to the forum?

I have, just not when it comes to game or travel.
Hence, 90% of my contributions are in the non-game forums.
(03-13-2017 11:47 PM)hudsonhicks Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-12-2017 09:04 PM)Bushido Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-12-2017 02:22 PM)hudsonhicks Wrote: [ -> ]Nearly every time i get matched on Tinder in Bangkok it's either a 7 or a Ladyboy.

I guess it's saturated now just like being back home in England or the West. The hotties have 99% of the likes which means the queue in the algorithm is very long and they are extremely picky with such a great choice of men.

I know a failsafe way for talking to hot girls instead of mediocre ones. Put down your phone and go approach some girls in real life.

I completely agree but its nice to have some girls lined up and some groundwork laid before you fly out there. Good for moral knowing you're flying into some dead cert pussy rather than flying into the unknown abyss and a hell of a lot of work Big Grin

It is my dream to find a Thai lady MILF in her 30s/ early 40s who's older than me who has a lot of money.
I can move into her Condo and she can give me a nice sugar mommy wage Banana

I understand that man. My post wasn't a criticism (or even aimed at you in particular), but rather a gentle reminder to others. The following could apply to any location in the world, but it seems that guys are coming on here to complain about their results online in Bangkok so here goes.

The underlying issue is that Tinder is too easy to use. The other (more minor) issue is that there are a lot of youngish, decent looking foreign guys based in Bangkok.

I'd wager that the vast majority of single (or otherwise) foreign men in Bangkok are using Tinder. Most guys are lazy. They want a shortcut to getting pussy. So you have a lot of young dudes relying on their phones alone. Some do OK, others not so OK. Either way, they are all competing for the same pussy. Bangkok is much bigger than Tinder or its farang nightclubs.

Even in clubs, guys usually just stand around holding their dicks. That is, until they are blind drunk and finally stumble over to a table of Thais who have already disqualified them by that point.

If you are a young, good-looking guy doing "OK but not great" on Tinder in Bangkok then guess what? You are probably dating much lower quality than you should be. The whole nature of online game is passive. As has been thoroughly documented on this very forum, the dynamic of Tinder favours women and makes them the choosers.

If you are an average guy here for two weeks and "only getting 7s" because Tinder and drunk ass "game" at 2am are your only avenues then, as far as I'm concerned, you don't deserve to get any better quality. You aren't putting the sufficient work in to get hotter girls.

99% of the time in life, the easy way out will produce mediocre results.

At the end of the day, approaching a hot chick takes some balls. Let's not get lost in the jargon. Whether it's on the BTS, in a club, cafe, or mall if you are actually approaching the seriously hot girls then you have real balls. Handsome guys are common. Relatively rich guys are pretty numerous too. But guys with balls? Not so much.

How do we define seriously hot? My personal definition is based on how nervous she makes me feel. The whole point of game is to break past those nerves and go talk to her anyway. In the end, if you keep on shooting for the hot girls regularly you are going to get one eventually.

I'm not a model nor rich. I barely even speak Thai so no big advantage there, but I do have balls. Anyone who knows me will tell you that. Luckily for me, most men are happy to swipe away and passively date down. Fuck that shit. We are better than that around here. Get out of your god damn comfort zone for a change and make things happen.
(03-13-2017 08:27 PM)pantsonfire Wrote: [ -> ]I agree online game is much more easier but its very hard to get a meet during a weekday.
Thai girls seem reluctant to come out during weekday as they have to work but come the weekend
they are always up for it. Online game for me takes abit of time and a lot of filtering out the ones who
wont be up for it. Though, i have had the most conversion rate from online game.

I have found that majority on tinder that i have connected with ranging from age (21-32) tends to be
from universities such as Chula, Thammasat, Manidol, Abac - like the main top universities that speak english.
These girls are the kind who tend to be hanging around the clubs such as Beam/Demo/Nunglen etc.

Law of Numbers. Target uni girls who aren't working (upper middle class). Not a problem filling up my weekday schedule when I was there. Or go for the early drinks meet up (8-9 PM), though they will leave by midnight (parent curfew), so you'll have to game fast. Are you going for a straight pull or a third venue. You may deal with lazy bottle rat types for weekday hangouts, but just pump and dump them.

Its very, very easy to pile up matches. If you are super lazy do the boost routine, cost less then a drink anyways. I racked up hundreds of matches pipe-lining a week before. Take out the half for ladyboys and non-repliers and still have a huge target pool to work with. Make an excel sheet, give her a rating of how much you want to see her, then proceed from there. To save time, run a C&P routine based off your interests. Get her LINE within 5 messages, and set it up from there.

Average tinder hangout was a step up what you see on the BTS. Obviously you'll see tons of hotties at Siam Paragon, but cold approaching and getting the bang would require extraordinary time commitment.

Again though, to your last point, when the same girls use tinder and go the night life it is exactly the same pool. The difference being this pool is HUGE compared to any other city I've been to.

For reference in China (FB is banned) / EA countries the tinder pool is a fraction of Bangkok. I'd equate it to the same popularity as Tan Tan in the tier one cities, but the girls can speak english and actually do want to meet up. (Pretty similar number of matches on Tan Tan and only managed to meet up with one 6 in Shanghai, the rest was via Tinder)

And Bushido I would agree with you about women being the choosers on Tinder in 99% of the cities out there, but from my vast experience around the world seems like Bangkok is one of the few cities where its an even level playing field. Perhaps my local competition of other Asian dudes is terrible so I can afford to be picky online. Props to you by the way for approaching every hot woman you see. That itself is not easy and deserves praise. I always pinch myself when I see a hottie that I don't approach.

The quality you pull from online will be similar what you can probably pull via the nightlife. I'll be honest a couple tinder dates I went on with the girl was absolutely a stunner, even I was taken aback. Long story short, if you have any degree of online "game", BKK is probably the best city in the world for Tinder user.

This reminds me of what Tinder use to be in Manila around 2 years ago, where "normal" girls are curious to try Tinder. You'll have lots of "new" blood into the system, where they haven't experienced online dating before. This includes girls at many of the top universities in BKK. I expect this to last maybe 1 year tops before it becomes a fad. Over 50% of the girls I met were extremely shy and definitely not online serial daters, and trying this for the "first time" or at the very most couple dates with other guys.


Keep in mind again I am a young, relatively attractive EA in tourist bang mode with a very solid online profile, so results may vary. If I was living here, I'd go at this with a completely different way and use Tinder to socially network into groups instead of insisting on girls coming solo. Lost many fine girls who didn't want to come alone (makes sense on their end). The only way for you to see if BKK is a good fit is to come for a one week trip and see for yourself. But it is definitely not dead, in fact I'd say its good as its ever been, or will be.

BKK is NOT a magic pill. If you can't get laid in your home country, don't expect to magically able to match with 7's and bang them without any game. This I think is the problem with the newbies complaining on how BKK is played out.
(03-13-2017 11:54 PM)Transsimian Wrote: [ -> ]I have, just not when it comes to game or travel.
Hence, 90% of my contributions are in the non-game forums.

Then you're not a freeloading lurker. Congrats mrgreen

If you're posting at all and making a bit of effort to get involved in any discussions that's good enough. just by being active and posting alone you're essentially giving back to the forum. Don't necessarily need to be dropping datasheets of info.

Rather what I'm talking about is the thousands of 'guests' (i.e. Non registered users/lurkers) browsing the travel section. Or the random guys who sign up, never to post anything but privately PM other members for intel, expecting their whole trip planned out for them and insider tips where they'll be offered up pussy on a platter.

Man, you should see some of the dumb shit I get asked about jakarta...
(03-14-2017 07:56 AM)Irish Wrote: [ -> ]Man, you should see some of the dumb shit I get asked about jakarta...

'where do I go to get laid for zero effort and is within my $20 a day budget'?

Seriously though, this forum would be improved if people needed 50 posts to view the travel and the politics section.
(03-14-2017 07:56 AM)Irish Wrote: [ -> ]Man, you should see some of the dumb shit I get asked about jakarta...

I'll do you one better. After my first trip to the Philippines, one 0 rep guy with 0 posts PM'ed me asking for the contact info and phone numbers of all the girls I banged. His excuse? Doesn't want to spend so much time pipelining, and was looking for a shortcut.

Facepalm2
(03-14-2017 08:29 PM)CleanSlate Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2017 07:56 AM)Irish Wrote: [ -> ]Man, you should see some of the dumb shit I get asked about jakarta...

I'll do you one better. After my first trip to the Philippines, one 0 rep guy with 0 posts PM'ed me asking for the contact info and phone numbers of all the girls I banged. His excuse? Doesn't want to spend so much time pipelining, and was looking for a shortcut.

Facepalm2

Could've tried to sell it to him. By the obvious lack of common sense he'd probably only offer somewhere in the low-mid single digits, but it'd be good for a laugh. Potentially frame the $5 bill like Scrooge McDuck did with his lucky dime.
Had a really nice time in Bangkok. I really enjoyed the inexpensive food and beauty services lol. Was able to see some old friends from college and while I missed out on meeting one member, I was still able to meet a couple of guys.

I can definitely see why guys love there.
(03-14-2017 08:29 PM)CleanSlate Wrote: [ -> ]I'll do you one better. After my first trip to the Philippines, one 0 rep guy with 0 posts PM'ed me asking for the contact info and phone numbers of all the girls I banged. His excuse? Doesn't want to spend so much time pipelining, and was looking for a shortcut.

Now, just send him some SIFs and trannies numbers.
(03-15-2017 03:10 AM)Transsimian Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2017 08:29 PM)CleanSlate Wrote: [ -> ]I'll do you one better. After my first trip to the Philippines, one 0 rep guy with 0 posts PM'ed me asking for the contact info and phone numbers of all the girls I banged. His excuse? Doesn't want to spend so much time pipelining, and was looking for a shortcut.

Now, just send him some SIFs and trannies numbers.

Haha! where were you two years ago?

Stick around. you're an alright guy Wink
(03-14-2017 12:34 AM)Bushido Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2017 11:47 PM)hudsonhicks Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-12-2017 09:04 PM)Bushido Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-12-2017 02:22 PM)hudsonhicks Wrote: [ -> ]Nearly every time i get matched on Tinder in Bangkok it's either a 7 or a Ladyboy.

I guess it's saturated now just like being back home in England or the West. The hotties have 99% of the likes which means the queue in the algorithm is very long and they are extremely picky with such a great choice of men.

I know a failsafe way for talking to hot girls instead of mediocre ones. Put down your phone and go approach some girls in real life.

I completely agree but its nice to have some girls lined up and some groundwork laid before you fly out there. Good for moral knowing you're flying into some dead cert pussy rather than flying into the unknown abyss and a hell of a lot of work Big Grin

It is my dream to find a Thai lady MILF in her 30s/ early 40s who's older than me who has a lot of money.
I can move into her Condo and she can give me a nice sugar mommy wage Banana

I understand that man. My post wasn't a criticism (or even aimed at you in particular), but rather a gentle reminder to others. The following could apply to any location in the world, but it seems that guys are coming on here to complain about their results online in Bangkok so here goes.

The underlying issue is that Tinder is too easy to use. The other (more minor) issue is that there are a lot of youngish, decent looking foreign guys based in Bangkok.

I'd wager that the vast majority of single (or otherwise) foreign men in Bangkok are using Tinder. Most guys are lazy. They want a shortcut to getting pussy. So you have a lot of young dudes relying on their phones alone. Some do OK, others not so OK. Either way, they are all competing for the same pussy. Bangkok is much bigger than Tinder or its farang nightclubs.

Even in clubs, guys usually just stand around holding their dicks. That is, until they are blind drunk and finally stumble over to a table of Thais who have already disqualified them by that point.

If you are a young, good-looking guy doing "OK but not great" on Tinder in Bangkok then guess what? You are probably dating much lower quality than you should be. The whole nature of online game is passive. As has been thoroughly documented on this very forum, the dynamic of Tinder favours women and makes them the choosers.

If you are an average guy here for two weeks and "only getting 7s" because Tinder and drunk ass "game" at 2am are your only avenues then, as far as I'm concerned, you don't deserve to get any better quality. You aren't putting the sufficient work in to get hotter girls.

99% of the time in life, the easy way out will produce mediocre results.

At the end of the day, approaching a hot chick takes some balls. Let's not get lost in the jargon. Whether it's on the BTS, in a club, cafe, or mall if you are actually approaching the seriously hot girls then you have real balls. Handsome guys are common. Relatively rich guys are pretty numerous too. But guys with balls? Not so much.

How do we define seriously hot? My personal definition is based on how nervous she makes me feel. The whole point of game is to break past those nerves and go talk to her anyway. In the end, if you keep on shooting for the hot girls regularly you are going to get one eventually.

I'm not a model nor rich. I barely even speak Thai so no big advantage there, but I do have balls. Anyone who knows me will tell you that. Luckily for me, most men are happy to swipe away and passively date down. Fuck that shit. We are better than that around here. Get out of your god damn comfort zone for a change and make things happen.

^^^^^^^^^^^^
Exactly why I gave you that +1 rating. You'll pull anywhere if you take that advice.
Question about the Tinder game :

What time do you guys find the best time to activate your boost?
early morning

edit: in Khon Kaen
(03-15-2017 06:56 AM)kLD Wrote: [ -> ]Question about the Tinder game :

What time do you guys find the best time to activate your boost?

Right after work 5-6 PM, or right before work (morning). When Thais are stuck in traffic and nothing else to do.
(03-15-2017 10:46 AM)Satoshi Wrote: [ -> ]early morning

edit: in Khon Kaen

Are you enjoying Khon Kaen? Not enough love for places not named BK, CM, and Phuket on this forum, especially for guys who don't mind putting in the effort to learn Thai and live here permanently.
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