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(07-18-2017 08:08 PM)Putin Closes Wrote: [ -> ]Weird. Really stupid policy then. If I were you, I'd apply for an APEC card, which holds some weight in Asia. I get to go through VIP lines all the time, even security check points. The approval process is kind of a pain in the ass, but with that card I never, ever get questioned. They just stamp and go.

If its an excuse to deny travelers, always tidying up and looking "professional" goes a long way. The guys I see getting further questioning are your typical vagrant looking types at the airport.

Interesting idea hadn't thought of that. There's also a fast lane service for 1200 baht - https://www.limousine.in.th/fast-track-immigration.html

I'm going to stick to land borders for a while though and see if this blows over.
Am I risking it if I enter Thailand by air after a 6-month METV and 1 visa exemption? Haven't been in Thailand since March. Intend to only stay 6 days on the 2nd visa exemption of the year.
That should be fine, it only seems to be affecting people who've stayed close to 365 days a year
I understand them not wanting people living there on back to back tourist visas, but it really is fucking stupid refusing people entry because they don't have 20k baht in cash when they enter.

Last time I applied for a multiple entry visa I had to show 6 months worth of certified bank statements to prove the average balance was over a certain amount.

Now on top of the I'll have to also carry 20k cash every time I re-enter the country, even though the visa granted with proof of sufficient funds is still valid. Complete retards
What would you guys say is the amount of time needed to get settled in BKK to the point where I could resume full time work on my online business? My brand has been blowing up so I don't like taking time away but I also want a change of scenery. I've been living in the same place for 10 fucking years now. Some seasoned travelers are telling me they think it would take 2-4 weeks to get settled but in my head it just seems like I could plug into an airbnb and be back in full force within a day or two of landing. Am I totally underestimating?
(07-19-2017 07:54 PM)delineator Wrote: [ -> ]What would you guys say is the amount of time needed to get settled in BKK to the point where I could resume full time work on my online business? My brand has been blowing up so I don't like taking time away but I also want a change of scenery. I've been living in the same place for 10 fucking years now. Some seasoned travelers are telling me they think it would take 2-4 weeks to get settled but in my head it just seems like I could plug into an airbnb and be back in full force within a day or two of landing. Am I totally underestimating?

Impossible to say. It all depends on your self discipline. Personally, I had a really hard time being productive in Bangkok, because there is always something going on. It almost felt like a day in Bangkok only has 18 hours.

If you want to stay long-term, you should definitely take your time when choosing an apartment. You want a few small restaurants and a grocery store nearby. Quick access to BTS or MRT is also a must. If you don't have that, it will cost you a few hours per day. If you want to hit the gym, you have to factor that in too. Most condo gyms are shit.

If your online business has the highest priority, it might be smarter to go to a place like Chiang Mai or even an island in the South. But I am not sure about the internet situation on the islands.
With an airbnb that has internet set up I'd say your thinking is right it'll only take a day or two, bit of jet lag maybe. Don't eat any streetfood that might mess up your gut because you're not used to it, stick to decent restaurants.

Travelers tend to hunt for the best value accommodation, if you have cash coming in from a business and just want to focus on that then just spend a little more with Airbnb at first. If you just list what type of place and area you're looking for someone here can probably name an exact condominium.
Ragnar and jspill - thanks so much for the info. I think I would be able to stay focused, I've been living in a hi-rise in the middle of one of the densest cities in America so I'm used to zoning out the distractions. I did consider Chang Mai but I think the burn season would bother me. Bali is another option I've thought about.

It would be awesome if anyone on here could provide recommendations of actual condos. Here's what I'm looking for:

$1200 or less per month
Fast reliable internet (hopefully above 20mbps)
Quick access to BTS or MRT
Has descent office/desk chair or is close to somewhere where I can get a good chair (ergonomics are critical for long work days)
Close to grocery store and at least one descent restaurant
I'd prefer to have a good gym within the condo complex, but if not possible then a good gym close by
Great location for occasionally swooping tinder and ThaiFriendly girls (probably won't do as much nightlife just to save time)
Would be nice to have a pool but not necessary
Larger than 450sf in size

Also has anyone ever hired a Thai assistant to do all of your chores like grocery shopping, cleaning, laundry, cooking errands, etc? I have an assistant here in the U.S. that does whatever I need and it saves an enormous amount of time. I assume Thai labor is super cheap as well.

Thanks again guys!
(07-20-2017 10:45 AM)delineator Wrote: [ -> ]It would be awesome if anyone on here could provide recommendations of actual condos. Here's what I'm looking for:

$1200 or less per month
Fast reliable internet (hopefully above 20mbps)
Quick access to BTS or MRT
Has descent office/desk chair or is close to somewhere where I can get a good chair (ergonomics are critical for long work days)
Close to grocery store and at least one descent restaurant
I'd prefer to have a good gym within the condo complex, but if not possible then a good gym close by
Great location for occasionally swooping tinder and ThaiFriendly girls (probably won't do as much nightlife just to save time)
Would be nice to have a pool but not necessary
Larger than 450sf in size

Also has anyone ever hired a Thai assistant to do all of your chores like grocery shopping, cleaning, laundry, cooking errands, etc? I have an assistant here in the U.S. that does whatever I need and it saves an enormous amount of time. I assume Thai labor is super cheap as well.

Thanks again guys!

Very easy...

Personally I like the area between Phetchaburi and Ratchadapisek MRT
- quick and easy access to Asok for some shopping, RCA for parties, train night market behind Esplanade for hundreds of food/bar choices or the largest weekend market in Mochit
.... but many expats seems to prefer the area between Thong Lo - OnNut which will give you great amenities such 200THB tacos and wannabe hiso people around

$1200 = 40000 thb ... I pay always between 20-25k a month and get 45sq m one bedroom in top end buildings (2-3 pools, saunas, imo decent gym), internet is never an issue

- don't expect a decent office chair/desk anywhere... just buy it yourself

- restaurants are everywhere and a grocery shop is not necessary - 7/11 for small purchases are every 100 metres and you can buy everything online from Tesco and pay less than if you go there

... fire up AirBnB and keep in mind that the higher end 45sq metre rooms don't go over 30,000thb and there are ton available
Thanks a ton man! The prices on the Tesco website are insanely cheap! Is it easy to find things like an office chair at the malls?

This is probably not a question for this forum, but do any of you guys pay Thai income tax? My business is an international corporation so I can pay myself wages anywhere and if I can get a low Thai rate then do the U.S. foreign earned income exclusion I could probably end up saving a ton.

(07-20-2017 12:26 PM)JJH Wrote: [ -> ]... fire up AirBnB and keep in mind that the higher end 45sq metre rooms don't go over 30,000thb and there are ton available
(07-20-2017 09:44 PM)delineator Wrote: [ -> ]This is probably not a question for this forum, but do any of you guys pay Thai income tax? My business is an international corporation so I can pay myself wages anywhere and if I can get a low Thai rate then do the U.S. foreign earned income exclusion I could probably end up saving a ton.

Via @Afarang, the OP of this thread - http://afarangabroad.com/2017/06/pay-tax...tal-nomad/
(07-21-2017 01:22 AM)jspill Wrote: [ -> ]Via @Afarang, the OP of this thread - http://afarangabroad.com/2017/06/pay-tax...tal-nomad/

Thanks man!
(07-19-2017 01:10 AM)jspill Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-18-2017 08:08 PM)Putin Closes Wrote: [ -> ]Weird. Really stupid policy then. If I were you, I'd apply for an APEC card, which holds some weight in Asia. I get to go through VIP lines all the time, even security check points. The approval process is kind of a pain in the ass, but with that card I never, ever get questioned. They just stamp and go.

If its an excuse to deny travelers, always tidying up and looking "professional" goes a long way. The guys I see getting further questioning are your typical vagrant looking types at the airport.

Interesting idea hadn't thought of that. There's also a fast lane service for 1200 baht - https://www.limousine.in.th/fast-track-immigration.html

I'm going to stick to land borders for a while though and see if this blows over.

Any of you know someone who's used this?
(07-21-2017 08:43 AM)delineator Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-21-2017 01:22 AM)jspill Wrote: [ -> ]Via @Afarang, the OP of this thread - http://afarangabroad.com/2017/06/pay-tax...tal-nomad/

Thanks man!

Why would you want to pay taxes? Pissing away thousands of dollars for no good reason. Thai authorities have zero access to your US bank accounts.
(07-22-2017 11:27 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-19-2017 01:10 AM)jspill Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-18-2017 08:08 PM)Putin Closes Wrote: [ -> ]Weird. Really stupid policy then. If I were you, I'd apply for an APEC card, which holds some weight in Asia. I get to go through VIP lines all the time, even security check points. The approval process is kind of a pain in the ass, but with that card I never, ever get questioned. They just stamp and go.

If its an excuse to deny travelers, always tidying up and looking "professional" goes a long way. The guys I see getting further questioning are your typical vagrant looking types at the airport.

Interesting idea hadn't thought of that. There's also a fast lane service for 1200 baht - https://www.limousine.in.th/fast-track-immigration.html

I'm going to stick to land borders for a while though and see if this blows over.

Any of you know someone who's used this?

Our friend who used to own a Lambo in Bangkok mentioned using it before.
(07-22-2017 11:27 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-19-2017 01:10 AM)jspill Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-18-2017 08:08 PM)Putin Closes Wrote: [ -> ]Weird. Really stupid policy then. If I were you, I'd apply for an APEC card, which holds some weight in Asia. I get to go through VIP lines all the time, even security check points. The approval process is kind of a pain in the ass, but with that card I never, ever get questioned. They just stamp and go.

If its an excuse to deny travelers, always tidying up and looking "professional" goes a long way. The guys I see getting further questioning are your typical vagrant looking types at the airport.

Interesting idea hadn't thought of that. There's also a fast lane service for 1200 baht - https://www.limousine.in.th/fast-track-immigration.html

I'm going to stick to land borders for a while though and see if this blows over.

Any of you know someone who's used this?

I've got a fast track on both inbound on outbound BKK flights. This was when I was flying F class on Cathay. If you're flying economy then you can ask the stewards and they may give it to you. When I arrived the queue was ridiculous because my plane was 20 minutes late so we ended up last in line so it was worth it.
Apec line is shorter then even the priority line. Unless some family with strollers clogs it up. Highly, highly advise you guys to look into it. But GE interviews are filled right now so there's that...
(07-22-2017 03:33 PM)Putin Closes Wrote: [ -> ]Apec line is shorter then even the priority line. Unless some family with strollers clogs it up. Highly, highly advise you guys to look into it. But GE interviews are filled right now so there's that...

Doesn't seem to be available for British nationals (unless one has permanent residence in Hong Kong)

http://travel.apec.org/apply.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APEC_Busin...on_process
(07-20-2017 12:26 PM)JJH Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-20-2017 10:45 AM)delineator Wrote: [ -> ]It would be awesome if anyone on here could provide recommendations of actual condos. Here's what I'm looking for:

$1200 or less per month
Fast reliable internet (hopefully above 20mbps)
Quick access to BTS or MRT
Has descent office/desk chair or is close to somewhere where I can get a good chair (ergonomics are critical for long work days)
Close to grocery store and at least one descent restaurant
I'd prefer to have a good gym within the condo complex, but if not possible then a good gym close by
Great location for occasionally swooping tinder and ThaiFriendly girls (probably won't do as much nightlife just to save time)
Would be nice to have a pool but not necessary
Larger than 450sf in size

Also has anyone ever hired a Thai assistant to do all of your chores like grocery shopping, cleaning, laundry, cooking errands, etc? I have an assistant here in the U.S. that does whatever I need and it saves an enormous amount of time. I assume Thai labor is super cheap as well.

Thanks again guys!

Very easy...

Personally I like the area between Phetchaburi and Ratchadapisek MRT
- quick and easy access to Asok for some shopping, RCA for parties, train night market behind Esplanade for hundreds of food/bar choices or the largest weekend market in Mochit
.... but many expats seems to prefer the area between Thong Lo - OnNut which will give you great amenities such 200THB tacos and wannabe hiso people around

$1200 = 40000 thb ... I pay always between 20-25k a month and get 45sq m one bedroom in top end buildings (2-3 pools, saunas, imo decent gym), internet is never an issue

- don't expect a decent office chair/desk anywhere... just buy it yourself

- restaurants are everywhere and a grocery shop is not necessary - 7/11 for small purchases are every 100 metres and you can buy everything online from Tesco and pay less than if you go there

... fire up AirBnB and keep in mind that the higher end 45sq metre rooms don't go over 30,000thb and there are ton available

Can you tell which area is cleaner/safer from your recommendations? I don't party that much because of work, so I'd prefer a quiet neighborhood.
(07-22-2017 12:40 PM)Putin Closes Wrote: [ -> ]Why would you want to pay taxes? Pissing away thousands of dollars for no good reason. Thai authorities have zero access to your US bank accounts.

You pay taxes in other countries in order to be excluded from paying high U.S. taxes. But obviously it only makes sense if the other countries have lower income tax rates. The 0% rate islands in the Caribbean are really tempting but they are terrible locations for game.
(07-23-2017 09:31 AM)luckskywalker Wrote: [ -> ]Can you tell which area is cleaner/safer from your recommendations? I don't party that much because of work, so I'd prefer a quiet neighborhood.

Supalai Park Phahon Yothin 21 condo is on a quiet soi with huge pool, 2 tennis courts, 2 squash courts, several restaurants downstairs that deliver, massage, I lived there when I had a GF and didn't party much. Walking distance to 4 malls (major ratchayothin, central ladprao, the one park, union mall), Phahon Yothin MRT station, best condo gym I've ever seen - 2 barbells, bench press, squat rack, pull up bar, 400lb in weight plates, cable crossover, leg press, yoga room. And rooms start at only 10k baht ($300) a month because of it's location and the rooms aren't that modern.

http://nomadphilippines.com/cheap-condo-bangkok-dating

Along the MRT line is cleaner/safer than the BTS line, so the suggestion above, the area between Phetchaburi and Ratchadapisek MRT, is what you're looking for too. For example Rhythm Ratchada condo is very modern and upscale, much more so than Supalai, but about 80% more expensive. Has a 32nd floor rooftop pool and garden.
RooshV member who had a previous thread on wifing up thai girls here and met a bunch of people from the forums as well hanged himself in prison: http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/...rknet-site

Although it can be hard to make money online / run a legit business from thailand, learn from this guy's mistake. He died at age 28 because he felt the need to be a show off beta bucks instead of lifting and learning alpha game. (you can see from the pic that he didn't lift and dresses like a beta bucks)

With nice condos being so cheap, rather work hard to do something that won't get you arrested, lift, develop an alpha mindset and take taxis / Uber / buy a motorbike instead of developing a never ending need for more cash by any means necessary, because you only know beta bucks game.

At just $1000-$1500 a month you can do this shit forever instead of a couple of years until you get locked up for a long time for doing seriously criminal stuff and we all know thai prisons ain't a joke and if you get extradited elsewhere you probably won't ever make it back.
If you fuck with the law, sooner or later it will fuck with you! Why live with the anxiety of watching your back for the rest of your life!

I know this from experience with myself and friends where due to this, they do a fucking criminal check on everything in Australia! I've lost good jobs due to minor criminal convictions!!

100+ years ago it wasn't hard to get away with murder but those days are over!
(07-23-2017 07:36 PM)AsiaBaller Wrote: [ -> ]RooshV member who had a previous thread on wifing up thai girls here and met a bunch of people from the forums as well hanged himself in prison: http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/...rknet-site

Although it can be hard to make money online / run a legit business from thailand, learn from this guy's mistake. He died at age 28 because he felt the need to be a show off beta bucks instead of lifting and learning alpha game. (you can see from the pic that he didn't lift and dresses like a beta bucks)

With nice condos being so cheap, rather work hard to do something that won't get you arrested, lift, develop an alpha mindset and take taxis / Uber / buy a motorbike instead of developing a never ending need for more cash by any means necessary, because you only know beta bucks game.

At just $1000-$1500 a month you can do this shit forever instead of a couple of years until you get locked up for a long time for doing seriously criminal stuff and we all know thai prisons ain't a joke and if you get extradited elsewhere you probably won't ever make it back.

Bro, you've been here almost as long as Rawmeo.....haven't posted in 2.5 years, only to come around and talk shit about someone who is dead? Dude has more cred of baller than you do.

At least get your facts straight, he's 26.
(07-23-2017 07:36 PM)AsiaBaller Wrote: [ -> ]RooshV member who had a previous thread on wifing up thai girls here and met a bunch of people from the forums as well hanged himself in prison: http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/...rknet-site

Although it can be hard to make money online / run a legit business from thailand, learn from this guy's mistake. He died at age 28 because he felt the need to be a show off beta bucks instead of lifting and learning alpha game. (you can see from the pic that he didn't lift and dresses like a beta bucks)

With nice condos being so cheap, rather work hard to do something that won't get you arrested, lift, develop an alpha mindset and take taxis / Uber / buy a motorbike instead of developing a never ending need for more cash by any means necessary, because you only know beta bucks game.

At just $1000-$1500 a month you can do this shit forever instead of a couple of years until you get locked up for a long time for doing seriously criminal stuff and we all know thai prisons ain't a joke and if you get extradited elsewhere you probably won't ever make it back.

Thats the thing the marginal value of additional funds is so limited.

Heres a chart I found on Thailand income tax payers. A large portion of the work force are obviously not registered tax players but I think it would be fair to assume most of those who aren't are from rural areas where incomes are likely much lower.

http://thaipublica.org/wp-content/upload...B8%B21.jpg

24,709 people in the entire country make more than $10,000 USD per month. (120,000 per year). Thailands population is 68,860,000.

What that means. Approximately 0.036% of the population makes over $10,000 USD per month. Keep in mind that income statistics at the top end are often inflated due to 1x sales. I.e. sale of business, sale of 2nd property etc. With that said in terms of income tax. Also consider the age of people with the highest incomes is usually old and married.

About 1 in 3,000 Thai people claim incomes over $10,000 USD per month.

The amount of girls that someone would be disqualified from obtaining from a much more reasonable $3,000 income per month is so miniscule is honestly an almost irrelevant number.

In fact based on GDP per capita factoring in Purchasing Power Parity charts Thailand actually is a reasonably decent income country ranking between 63rd and 77th depending on whether you believe the IMF, World Bank or CIA. Many popular countries amongst members fair worse...
Notably based on CIA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co...per_capita

Costa Rica (79)
Dominican Republic (80)
Brazil (85)
Colombia (91)
Peru (95)
Indonesia (103)
Cuba (104)
Ukraine (121)
Phillipines (124)
Vietnam (131)
Nicaragua (141)
Cambodia (150)

In any of these countries a very average foreigner is easily going to be in the 1% even with a very modest income level. If you were able to break it down by age as your competition is really for the most part 20-40 year old men with the odd older guy still in play you'd fair even better.

Chasing millions and millions of dollars isn't really going to bear much additional fruit. Your going to be rich just about anywhere you'd want to go anyway.

If you want to go to Norway, or Sweden to live well obviously this doesn't apply whatsoever but if your like the bulk of us who would like to have a nice lifestyle at a reasonable cost your rich. In fact you are probably really rich!
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