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First of all I do not think I have "game", I just talk and observe, I dont think about it too much. Second before this trip I did zero research on how to pick up J girls and such. 2nd time visiting and honestly I wasnt even expecting to get some on this trip since I was with family again, I knew it was going to be a bit harder. Never bothered to hook up during my 1st visit. Anways just thought id share my experience. I dont speak any Japanese, I know a few words but thats about it... Time spent there 10 days, if I remember correctly.


Tokyo First Girl (27):
I came back to my hotel semi drunk. I saw this girl at the hotel bar (which I always did after spending the day out. Made friends with the staff. Spent more money there than I should have...)
so I decided to sit next to her, "Excuse me, do you mind if I sit here?" she nodded no, sat down and drank. I saw her face and I thought she was like a 7. Asked if she spoke English and her English was good enough for me to not speak to her like a 3rd grader. Found out that the girl and bartender along with a couple other workers all knew each other. blah blah, got her LINE, after awhile she has to leave and take the train home. She lived like 20-30 mins away I told her ill walk her to the train so no one will kidnap her. Held her hand all the way to the train station said bye, kissed her and walked away. I've around that PDA there isn't common or something but I didnt really care at the time. Should have seen her face, she was shocked lol.
2nd Meet up:
I text her trying to get her to meet me at the bar again but she almost flaked because I told her I was with family and that I wasn't going to be back at the hotel till late (a mistake?). She ended up coming. I tell her that she should take me around to find a cheaper bar. I dont remember the name but it wasnt any cheaper than the hotel bar smh... we were already there so whatevers. Same shit again, Im just talking to her as if I really cared about her. Oh yeah this time I got a REAL good look at her sober and uhhhh... she jumped from a 7 to like a 4 at MOST... but I was like fuck it I might as well pull through all the way since its my last day in Tokyo before I leave to Sendai the next morning. She says "I have to leave soon." I just kept insisting that we find a hotel near by which took a lot of convincing (she was texting her mom she said, everything was in Japanese so idk what the hell was going on with her). Made her miss her train, we found a "love hotel" got settled in and she knew what was gonna happen. I tried doing my thing but shes one of those super shy girls, then she pulled the I want to shower. I try again and but shes like "I think you should shower" but hell no I knew she was gonna fall asleep on me if I did. It took about 10 mins for me to get her to shut up about showering and on top of that it took FOREVER! to get it in, I also failed to get her to let me hit it raw. On the bright side she was tight. The bang was aight. Since this was my first ever with a J Girl, I wasn't surpised, hairy and really moany.


Sendai:
I met this woman at stand up bar I pull up and noticed this woman (found out shes 39 and she has kids. Which they weren't present at her apt after being there 2 nights in a row. Didnt bother to ask why.) about 3ft away from me drinking alone, I said "Are you from Sendai?" she does one of those shy 'sorry I speak no enlgeesh head nods' and smiles. I thought ahhh damn I lucked out... Few mins pass by and she shows me her phone with GOOGLE TRANSLATE xD asking me where I'm from. Blah blah we drink I get her LINE, she sometimes tried to speak english but her english and was so traassssh (but she knows more english words than I do in Japanese...), I Keep pointing to her phone and said "type type" lol so we continue to use google translate. and we all know google translate aint that accurate at times. At this time Im tripping hard cause I don't know how the "J Game" works around here, I dont speak japanese, and never used google translate to pick up someone. Walked her home and asked if I could use her bathroom (It was the best like 20 seconds of piss ever). Bang was better than the first girl.

Sapporo was a bust got nothing but I didn't really try there. Lots of pretty girls during the 27th Yosakoi Soran Festival though

I got rejected way too many times to count. It came to the to the point on giving up on using the "Hi do you speak english" or pretending to ask for directions as an opener. It was really frustrating now that I look back at it. I tried to talk to those standing around, sitting by themselves or walking around stopping them out of the blue and Many would ignore and just walk away (when they did this I was like well fuuuuck you then you aint shit xD and laughed it off), say no english, or they do that 'sorry I cant help you nod'. Most of these attempts happened at night during the week days and I never tried engaging those that were in groups.

Also tried the club but clubbing isnt really my type of scene, in terms of gaming girls/having fun.

After reading around seems like a lot of you know a fair amount of Japanase when it came to gaming these girls. For those wanting to visit Japan and bang with absolute zero Japanese, its not impossible but good luck... Even if you dont bang, Japan is an amazing place and I highly recommend it.
I had pretty much the same experience as you, using google translate etc, frustrating place Japan
Did you stay in Roppongi? I might go back there around May but the language barrier makes it tough to pull anything.
(10-13-2018 03:38 AM)3Stripes Wrote: [ -> ]Oh yeah this time I got a REAL good look at her sober and uhhhh... she jumped from a 7 to like a 4 at MOST...

This made me crack up lol
Can confirm, Japan without Japanese is hard if you don't stick to places where gaijin hunters congregate like venues in Roppongi.

More and more foreigners visiting Japan, who are on average much more loud and aggressive than japanese guys, doesn't make it easier either.
(10-13-2018 10:54 PM)AsiaBaller Wrote: [ -> ]Can confirm, Japan without Japanese is hard if you don't stick to places where gaijin hunters congregate like venues in Roppongi.

More and more foreigners visiting Japan, who are on average much more loud and aggressive than japanese guys, doesn't make it easier either.

i went to Roppongi a few years ago, all i saw in the bars was drug dealers and hippsters,mostly nigerian lads,very few girls. i think the ratio was 80/20,,didnt see any gajin hunting girls at all
(10-14-2018 12:47 AM)zamfir112 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-13-2018 10:54 PM)AsiaBaller Wrote: [ -> ]Can confirm, Japan without Japanese is hard if you don't stick to places where gaijin hunters congregate like venues in Roppongi.

More and more foreigners visiting Japan, who are on average much more loud and aggressive than japanese guys, doesn't make it easier either.

i went to Roppongi a few years ago, all i saw in the bars was drug dealers and hippsters,mostly nigerian lads,very few girls. i think the ratio was 80/20,,didnt see any gajin hunting girls at all

It's very venue specific as Roppongi isn't exclusively gaijin hunter territory. Feria used to be the place but they closed. I'm way out of the loop when it comes to Tokyo unfortunately.

In Osaka HUB was the place.

Also any Irish pub.
I'm in Tokyo for the first time right now and the only place I went to in Roppongi was A Life last night. 5000 cover with two drinks, no reentry, three different floors. There were a lot of foreigners trying to pick up but most girls didn't strike me as gaijin hunters, or maybe the Japanese are just more subtle about it. Either way, the girls were cute though few stunners, extremely friendly but even here English skills were basically nonexistent. Compared to Taiwan and China Japanese dudes in clubs are also a lot less aggressive/protective so that's nice.

I assume that this place ranks rather low on the clubbing totem pole in Tokyo, in which case I don't even wanna know what prices are like on the higher end.

Also heard about Elle and 1 Oak but didn't make it there.
(10-14-2018 01:25 AM)atlant Wrote: [ -> ]I'm in Tokyo for the first time right now and the only place I went to in Roppongi was A Life last night. 5000 cover with two drinks, no reentry, three different floors. There were a lot of foreigners trying to pick up but most girls didn't strike me as gaijin hunters, or maybe the Japanese are just more subtle about it. Either way, the girls were cute though few stunners, extremely friendly but even here English skills were basically nonexistent. Compared to Taiwan and China Japanese dudes in clubs are also a lot less aggressive/protective so that's nice.

I assume that this place ranks rather low on the clubbing totem pole in Tokyo, in which case I don't even wanna know what prices are like on the higher end.

Also heard about Elle and 1 Oak but didn't make it there.

my experience in these kind of clubs is that whenever you approach, and believe me i approached a dozen of girls,they are very polite,you may get a phone number,but whenever i pushed for making out or going to a love hotel they would refuse my advances,the conversations where one sided even if they spoke a little bit of english
Japanese girls are polite but also the most frustating girls ive ever met.
they are simply not fun to hang around with. socialy they are just akward people, i started to approach white girls instead at the end of the night because it was so much easier and more enjoyable than the j girls, the club i went to was in Shibuya
There’s rarely anything above a 7 at HUB. Always in groups and usually plenty of beta orbiters willing to play last man standing until the bitter end. Following you both to the train, bitter end. Sometimes the guys were just so dumb I don’t think they understood what was going on.

Féria has a good crowd by any hot chicks would get pulled into the VIP almost immediately. I never felt clubs in Japan to be worthwhile. You’re better off on the street outside the clubs.
From what I understand Jap girls respond real well to dominance and leading or 'caveman' game, whatever you want to call it. I guess that's all you have when you don't speak a lick of the language. Most guys say Tinder is shit there, and the girls don't appear to be on any other foreign apps in big numbers. The place isn't conducive to foreign players at all.

One of the resident Japan posters has to spill the beans and give up what Japanese hookup apps are popular over there.
(10-13-2018 05:04 PM)JR301 Wrote: [ -> ]Did you stay in Roppongi? I might go back there around May but the language barrier makes it tough to pull anything.

Nah, I stayed around Shidome area. Really close the the train station.
(10-14-2018 01:38 AM)zamfir112 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-14-2018 01:25 AM)atlant Wrote: [ -> ]I'm in Tokyo for the first time right now and the only place I went to in Roppongi was A Life last night. 5000 cover with two drinks, no reentry, three different floors. There were a lot of foreigners trying to pick up but most girls didn't strike me as gaijin hunters, or maybe the Japanese are just more subtle about it. Either way, the girls were cute though few stunners, extremely friendly but even here English skills were basically nonexistent. Compared to Taiwan and China Japanese dudes in clubs are also a lot less aggressive/protective so that's nice.

I assume that this place ranks rather low on the clubbing totem pole in Tokyo, in which case I don't even wanna know what prices are like on the higher end.

Also heard about Elle and 1 Oak but didn't make it there.

my experience in these kind of clubs is that whenever you approach, and believe me i approached a dozen of girls,they are very polite,you may get a phone number,but whenever i pushed for making out or going to a love hotel they would refuse my advances,the conversations where one sided even if they spoke a little bit of english
Japanese girls are polite but also the most frustating girls ive ever met.
they are simply not fun to hang around with. socialy they are just akward people, i started to approach white girls instead at the end of the night because it was so much easier and more enjoyable than the j girls, the club i went to was in Shibuya

Lol you right about them being socially awkward but maybe because I don’t speak Japanese? It’s kinda rough always having to keep the conversation going. There were times where she’d answer my question than just complete silence lol. From my experience they don’t really ask questions about you except maybe where your from, why you visiting Japan, and when do you leave.
(10-14-2018 08:05 AM)Ten Feet Tall Right Now Wrote: [ -> ]There’s rarely anything above a 7 at HUB. Always in groups and usually plenty of beta orbiters willing to play last man standing until the bitter end. Following you both to the train, bitter end. Sometimes the guys were just so dumb I don’t think they understood what was going on.

Féria has a good crowd by any hot chicks would get pulled into the VIP almost immediately. I never felt clubs in Japan to be worthwhile. You’re better off on the street outside the clubs.

With alcohol in the system a lot of them can be above 7s Haha.
(10-13-2018 05:36 PM)firat113 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-13-2018 03:38 AM)3Stripes Wrote: [ -> ]Oh yeah this time I got a REAL good look at her sober and uhhhh... she jumped from a 7 to like a 4 at MOST...

This made me crack up lol

Man... I asked myself wtf was I thinking lol and ordered a drink ASAP. From there things got easier xD. I legit thought I hit a jackpot or something haha.
(10-14-2018 09:03 AM)asiaslayer Wrote: [ -> ]From what I understand Jap girls respond real well to dominance and leading or 'caveman' game, whatever you want to call it. I guess that's all you have when you don't speak a lick of the language. Most guys say Tinder is shit there, and the girls don't appear to be on any other foreign apps in big numbers. The place isn't conducive to foreign players at all.

One of the resident Japan posters has to spill the beans and give up what Japanese hookup apps are popular over there.

They seem to also like a bit of childish or playful behavior and they respond well to the most dumbest jokes lol. Like “You come in my bag and I take you on plane.”
(10-14-2018 02:11 PM)3Stripes Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-14-2018 09:03 AM)asiaslayer Wrote: [ -> ]From what I understand Jap girls respond real well to dominance and leading or 'caveman' game, whatever you want to call it. I guess that's all you have when you don't speak a lick of the language. Most guys say Tinder is shit there, and the girls don't appear to be on any other foreign apps in big numbers. The place isn't conducive to foreign players at all.

One of the resident Japan posters has to spill the beans and give up what Japanese hookup apps are popular over there.

They seem to also like a bit of childish or playful behavior and they respond well to the most dumbest jokes lol. Like “You come in my bag and I take you on plane.”

Japanese girls will also pretend to laugh to your joke to be polite, so you really can never be sure what they are thinking
(10-14-2018 03:05 PM)zamfir112 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-14-2018 02:11 PM)3Stripes Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-14-2018 09:03 AM)asiaslayer Wrote: [ -> ]From what I understand Jap girls respond real well to dominance and leading or 'caveman' game, whatever you want to call it. I guess that's all you have when you don't speak a lick of the language. Most guys say Tinder is shit there, and the girls don't appear to be on any other foreign apps in big numbers. The place isn't conducive to foreign players at all.

One of the resident Japan posters has to spill the beans and give up what Japanese hookup apps are popular over there.

They seem to also like a bit of childish or playful behavior and they respond well to the most dumbest jokes lol. Like “You come in my bag and I take you on plane.”

Japanese girls will also pretend to laugh to your joke to be polite, so you really can never be sure what they are thinking

Lol yeah they sure do know how to put up a front really really well.
(10-14-2018 03:19 PM)3Stripes Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-14-2018 03:05 PM)zamfir112 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-14-2018 02:11 PM)3Stripes Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-14-2018 09:03 AM)asiaslayer Wrote: [ -> ]From what I understand Jap girls respond real well to dominance and leading or 'caveman' game, whatever you want to call it. I guess that's all you have when you don't speak a lick of the language. Most guys say Tinder is shit there, and the girls don't appear to be on any other foreign apps in big numbers. The place isn't conducive to foreign players at all.

One of the resident Japan posters has to spill the beans and give up what Japanese hookup apps are popular over there.

They seem to also like a bit of childish or playful behavior and they respond well to the most dumbest jokes lol. Like “You come in my bag and I take you on plane.”

Japanese girls will also pretend to laugh to your joke to be polite, so you really can never be sure what they are thinking

Lol yeah they sure do know how to put up a front really really well.

I recently saw this ugly indian dude in Kuala Lumpur trying his best to pickup a Japanese girl on the bus going to the city from the airport, she spoke to him 1.5 hours in the bus,acted interested and laughed the whole time,when he asked her for a date she went cold and started to act weird and covered her head with a blanket , she just could not say no to his face, or any typical excuses other nationalities usually give. to be sure a japanese girl really likes you i think early escalation to test the waters is key,these girls are experts in hiding their true emotions and opinions, offource the indian dude was stupid enough not to believe she was not intrested at all and kept following her around until she ran away from him

someone needs to release a book how to crack J-girls in Japan without Speaking japanese. some of them are stunners.deffo the most pretty in Asia, i was drooling in some of the malls in Tokyo
i still do not have my Japanese Flag in Japan. im pretty sure theres someone out there absolutley killing it.
(10-14-2018 04:36 PM)zamfir112 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-14-2018 03:19 PM)3Stripes Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-14-2018 03:05 PM)zamfir112 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-14-2018 02:11 PM)3Stripes Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-14-2018 09:03 AM)asiaslayer Wrote: [ -> ]From what I understand Jap girls respond real well to dominance and leading or 'caveman' game, whatever you want to call it. I guess that's all you have when you don't speak a lick of the language. Most guys say Tinder is shit there, and the girls don't appear to be on any other foreign apps in big numbers. The place isn't conducive to foreign players at all.

One of the resident Japan posters has to spill the beans and give up what Japanese hookup apps are popular over there.

They seem to also like a bit of childish or playful behavior and they respond well to the most dumbest jokes lol. Like “You come in my bag and I take you on plane.”

Japanese girls will also pretend to laugh to your joke to be polite, so you really can never be sure what they are thinking

Lol yeah they sure do know how to put up a front really really well.

I recently saw this ugly indian dude in Kuala Lumpur trying his best to pickup a Japanese girl on the bus going to the city from the airport, she spoke to him 1.5 hours in the bus,acted interested and laughed the whole time,when he asked her for a date she went cold and started to act weird and covered her head with a blanket , she just could not say no to his face, or any typical excuses other nationalities usually give. to be sure a japanese girl really likes you i think early escalation to test the waters is key,these girls are experts in hiding their true emotions and opinions, offource the indian dude was stupid enough not to believe she was not intrested at all and kept following her around until she ran away from him

someone needs to release a book how to crack J-girls in Japan without Speaking japanese. some of them are stunners.deffo the most pretty in Asia, i was drooling in some of the malls in Tokyo
i still do not have my Japanese Flag in Japan. im pretty sure theres someone out there absolutley killing it.

LOL damn thats cooold xD... I read some where saying like they do that to not ruin your public image/save your face? Something along those lines. I would rather have a straight up no than go through that.
Many dudes killing it in Japan. I cant really help you in that deparment but lots of tips around the forums for you.
Funny story, tried picking up this short J girl (about a 7) understood english fairly well. She acted nice and everything, thought I was getting somewhere but than I noticed she had a totally different vibe towards white guys as if she really wanted to bed them; gave up on that one. She even offered one of the guys in the group I was in to follow him to his room to get his ID which was about 10 mins away but he declined her offer lol. Not a suprise saw her leaving the club with some tall ass white guy I met earlier that night. Dude seemed like he knew the game well. Telling us the right places to hit up, showing us pictures of his pick ups blah blah blah. Asked him where the cougars/milfs at, he didnt know jack aboout them lol.
(10-14-2018 12:47 AM)zamfir112 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-13-2018 10:54 PM)AsiaBaller Wrote: [ -> ]Can confirm, Japan without Japanese is hard if you don't stick to places where gaijin hunters congregate like venues in Roppongi.

More and more foreigners visiting Japan, who are on average much more loud and aggressive than japanese guys, doesn't make it easier either.

i went to Roppongi a few years ago, all i saw in the bars was drug dealers and hippsters,mostly nigerian lads,very few girls. i think the ratio was 80/20,,didnt see any gajin hunting girls at all

Huh, I'm Nigerian, and I've always wanted to visit Japan. Frankly, drug dealers or no, I think I'd be glad to be around people from my own country for a while.
How is Tokyo during New Year's Eve? From what I see on youtube it looks like everybody is in a festive mood and ultra happy, lots of hot J sluts out roaming the streets and bars, wearing costumes and shit. Seems like a better time to go there. Wear some tacky costume or something attention-grabbing, and approaching on the street would probably be a cinch.

Might consider booking a flight for then. Anybody been during NYE and can confirm?
Can confirm Japan is one of the countries where you have to bring more to the table than being [insert race]. The only white guys I saw there with cute chicks were white guys that would be pulling in and out of Japan. I knew this going in and prepared accordingly. I did okay last go round but I plan on doing even better when I go next June.
Was in September in Japan (Tokyo).

Just a humble contribution, more as someone observing others than actually participating:

A-Life
Cheesy music, really unimpressive club, but the crowd has Japanese girls willing to hook up with westerners. Some guys were luck, not many: I saw some 2 or 3 heavy make out, and the disco had roughly 150/200 ppl inside.
I kissed some South Korean girl that was there - not bad at all, a 7 according to my rating. She did not want to go home.
Caveman game was used by the most successful guys including me (I adjusted since it was clear that the girls welcomed it). However I am not sure this would work elsewhere classier in Tokyo.

HUB
Huge place. Went during the week. Mostly students, not willing to interact with foreigners. Saw very few if any intercontinental make out.

Genorymo Shot Bar
Only foreigners, a few Japanese girls after them, which I believe could be hookers. The place has a nice vibe regardless - international bar with a US vibe, really friendly staff, everyone willing to get drunk.

Tinder - I am a fan of it, worked for me pretty well in london, kiev, Bucharest, but was hugely disappointed in Tokyo. Could have a date after trying a lot with a 4 (in the app looked like 7). Was a cool company but I did not try anything.

All in all, I think Tokyo is not the place to go for an international seducer - I went there for the culture, the food, other touristic stuff.
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