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Singapore airlines offers cheap airfare to Moscow from Houston for $399.1

Click on this link to check out the price.

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I saved a lot of coin on my flight to Moscow from Los Angeles on Transaero by purchasing in Russian instead of English on the website. Just wanted to throw that out there. I used the translate feature on the google chrome browser to do it. Total cost was 14,396 RUB one way as I'm unsure when I will come back. Blush
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Has anyone here been to Kamtchatka?

A girl in Moscow invited me to join here there for a few weeks in September.
She is born there and her father is some kind of a crazy nature guide.
She showed me a video where he is messing around with brown bears as he believe he can communicate with them on another level. Anyways, Kamtchatka looks truly amazing.

This would be a wild card.
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^^ That would be a pretty long flight. I had a girl in Moscow tell me it is her dream to go there, supposed to be beautiful.
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The beach at Sochi looks packed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwfP2zoKrdo

If you go, you'd just have to stand up and show respect to the Russian national anthem on a daily basis. F*cking lol.

Looks like this might be a good time to go to Russian beach towns to scope Russian girls on vacation:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/30/world/...nyt-region
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I'm planning to hit Moscow around New Year 2016. It's late...but the top reason is because I want to improve my Russian.

My last time there was in 2008 where I was in moscow for 7 days. I haven't discovered game back then so obviously I got zero notches (not gonna lie), but I was happy with what I saw and the hospitality of the locals. However...my situation is different from most of the guys on this forum. Since I am from Bulgaria I am 100% sure I should hit Russia for girls and not UK/Sweden and maybe not America - for obvious reasons.

Anyway, one thing I'd recommend is to stick to Moscow since St. Petersburg from what I've heard is very "nationalistic", maybe the most racist city in Europe. I don't see the point of Kazan and etc. Maybe also Sochi in the summer - but no personal experience there.
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I have been in Russia for 10 days now and want to share initial impressions on my one year journey and a few of my interactions.  I'm barely scratching the surface of this place and the women.  As I'm out of the tourist areas, I have met a few women who haven't ever spoken to an American although many have traveled to the US.  Night game has been surprisingly friendly, day game similar and internet game is junk.

Logistics: I've situated myself into a one bed one bath hotel style dorm apartment from my university.  It is fairly nice by local student standards but not really by mine.  However, it is incredibly cheap... like 1,500 RUB a month cheap. The room is obviously subsidized by the school.  This allowed me to upgrade my wardrobe, purchase membership in a top tier gym and afford better meals.  However, I will not impress with my logistics and have not pulled here in 10 days.  It won't matter to the right girl, but it is far from a bang mission ideal setup.  My primary objective is long game with higher quality, younger women.

My initial reception into Russia my first night was incredible.  I kind of caught lightning in a bottle as I stumbled upon "Jimi Bar" near Prospect Mira which was having a freshman student welcome drunkfest.  I got contact info for multiple 18 year old just starting university.  They loved meeting me and many asked to take selfies with me at the bar and I added about 4-5 on VK.  This initial goldmine kind of fizzled and only resulted in one date with a 7 who had just turned 18, 10 days prior.  I invited her up to the room, but encountered LMR and scared her off.

The next night (Friday) I went to Joy Bar and met a very cute 24 YO 8.  Small, brown haired and petite she was leaving the bar as it was a work party and I caught her waiting for a ride.  Convo was cut short in the bar, but we have been talking all week.  Hopefully this does not turn into a never ending text string.  It seems to be going that way.  I continued to collect VKs at Joy bar of lower and lower quality as the night went on and I continued drinking and ended at what seemed to be a popular bar called Strelka.  I got denied initially as there was a ticketed concert, but was given a wristband from a girl at Joy bar and waltzed in after.  Thanks to Uber, I somehow made it home.  Saturday night I recovered.

Things were quiet during the week.  I did several approaches in the school cafeteria with good looking girls in the 20-22 range, but nothing really developed except some shallow conversations with girls with boyfriends or girls that generally were not that interesting to me.  I haven’t day gamed on the street much.  Moscow girls seem really suspicious of someone approaching them in the sub.  I did meet a nice 22 YO 8 and number closed friday night and called her today (Sunday).  Also went to a lounge on Friday called “Weekend Lounge” near Chekhovskaya.  It is kind of a private party atmosphere (not exclusive) and I was invited there by a customs officer I VK friended while my bags were over the 50KG limit in secondary.  On Friday we entered into a Russia vs. USA completion using alcohol.  Thanks to Uber, I somehow made it home. Saturday night I recovered.

Tried church game this morning and I couldn’t even identify a target.  Saw one with her mom that looked ideal but I'm to shy to approach with mom there.  Overall, I was a little disappointed as people didn't hang around afterwards.  School starts officially for me this week which means I will be meeting a lot more girls.
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(09-13-2015 02:27 PM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  I have been in Russia for 10 days now and want to share initial impressions on my one year journey and a few of my interactions.  I'm barely scratching the surface of this place and the women.  As I'm out of the tourist areas, I have met a few women who haven't ever spoken to an American although many have traveled to the US.  Night game has been surprisingly friendly, day game similar and internet game is junk.

Logistics: I've situated myself into a one bed one bath hotel style dorm apartment from my university.  It is fairly nice by local student standards but not really by mine.  However, it is incredibly cheap... like 1,500 RUB a month cheap. The room is obviously subsidized by the school.  This allowed me to upgrade my wardrobe, purchase membership in a top tier gym and afford better meals.  However, I will not impress with my logistics and have not pulled here in 10 days.  It won't matter to the right girl, but it is far from a bang mission ideal setup.  My primary objective is long game with higher quality, younger women.

My initial reception into Russia my first night was incredible.  I kind of caught lightning in a bottle as I stumbled upon "Jimi Bar" near Prospect Mira which was having a freshman student welcome drunkfest.  I got contact info for multiple 18 year old just starting university.  They loved meeting me and many asked to take selfies with me at the bar and I added about 4-5 on VK.  This initial goldmine kind of fizzled and only resulted in one date with a 7 who had just turned 18, 10 days prior.  I invited her up to the room, but encountered LMR and scared her off.

The next night (Friday) I went to Joy Bar and met a very cute 24 YO 8.  Small, brown haired and petite she was leaving the bar as it was a work party and I caught her waiting for a ride.  Convo was cut short in the bar, but we have been talking all week.  Hopefully this does not turn into a never ending text string.  It seems to be going that way.  I continued to collect VKs at Joy bar of lower and lower quality as the night went on and I continued drinking and ended at what seemed to be a popular bar called Strelka.  I got denied initially as there was a ticketed concert, but was given a wristband from a girl at Joy bar and waltzed in after.  Thanks to Uber, I somehow made it home.  Saturday night I recovered.

Things were quiet during the week.  I did several approaches in the school cafeteria with good looking girls in the 20-22 range, but nothing really developed except some shallow conversations with girls with boyfriends or girls that generally were not that interesting to me.  I haven’t day gamed on the street much.  Moscow girls seem really suspicious of someone approaching them in the sub.  I did meet a nice 22 YO 8 and number closed friday night and called her today (Sunday).  Also went to a lounge on Friday called “Weekend Lounge” near Chekhovskaya.  It is kind of a private party atmosphere (not exclusive) and I was invited there by a customs officer I VK friended while my bags were over the 50KG limit in secondary.  On Friday we entered into a Russia vs. USA completion using alcohol.  Thanks to Uber, I somehow made it home. Saturday night I recovered.

Tried church game this morning and I couldn’t even identify a target.  Saw one with her mom that looked ideal but I'm to shy to approach with mom there.  Overall, I was a little disappointed as people didn't hang around afterwards.  School starts officially for me this week which means I will be meeting a lot more girls.

Have you tried day-game or better yet dance-game (if you know how to dance) at Gorky Park? That place is a gold-mine. Also, you keep mentioning hitting on students and 18 year olds?Dodgy Are you in your early 20's? If so, then you shouldn't even have to look outside your university as ratio's are so favorable there.
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(09-13-2015 06:34 PM)TripleG Wrote:  Have you tried day-game or better yet dance-game (if you know how to dance) at Gorky Park? That place is a gold-mine. Also, you keep mentioning hitting on students and 18 year olds?Dodgy Are you in your early 20's? If so, then you shouldn't even have to look outside your university as ratio's are so favorable there.

No, I am mid thirties but could pass for late 20's. Usually by the time a girl asks how old I am (usually date 2) she has already decided if she likes me or not, so age doesn't matter so much. I pass the initial shit test question of "what are you doing here?" as I am also a student. My preferred age range is 21-23 and I had a relationship with a 21 yo and which is documented here. The 18 year olds were just by chance. Your emoji made your question seem a little condescending which I find odd for this forum if true.

I have been to gorky park but I have no dance game. It's not really my style. It has also been unusually cold and rainy. Maybe I will go there again this week when the weather is better.
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Anyone been to Sochi? Climate looks nice.

Or Stavropol?

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(09-14-2015 10:10 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Anyone been to Sochi? Climate looks nice.

Or Stavropol?

Consensus from people I've met in Russia (men & women) is that Sochi is a great city. Many visited during or after the olympic games put it on the international map. I imagine gaming local girls vs tourist girls from other parts of Russia would be quite different things.

Have never heard Stavropol mentioned.

I used to think Russia was Russia, but I've found the cities here vary wildly in character & quality. Broadly speaking;

Moscow; sluttiest
St Peter; blondest
Vladivostok; hottest
Khabarovsk; meh
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(09-14-2015 08:30 PM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  
(09-14-2015 10:10 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Anyone been to Sochi? Climate looks nice.

Or Stavropol?

Consensus from people I've met in Russia (men & women) is that Sochi is a great city. Many visited during or after the olympic games put it on the international map. I imagine gaming local girls vs tourist girls from other parts of Russia would be quite different things.

Have never heard Stavropol mentioned.

I used to think Russia was Russia, but I've found the cities here vary wildly in character & quality. Broadly speaking;

Moscow; sluttiest
St Peter; blondest
Vladivostok; hottest
Khabarovsk; meh

@Courage, sounds like you've been to Vladivostok. It really interests me as it is on the Trans-Siberian Express route and not far from Khabarovsk via train. Would you recommend visiting it for 1 week or Vladivostok requires "long-game"? How is night-life there?
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(09-14-2015 08:30 PM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  
(09-14-2015 10:10 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Anyone been to Sochi? Climate looks nice.

Or Stavropol?

Consensus from people I've met in Russia (men & women) is that Sochi is a great city. Many visited during or after the olympic games put it on the international map. I imagine gaming local girls vs tourist girls from other parts of Russia would be quite different things.

Have never heard Stavropol mentioned.

I used to think Russia was Russia, but I've found the cities here vary wildly in character & quality. Broadly speaking;

Moscow; sluttiest
St Peter; blondest
Vladivostok; hottest
Khabarovsk; meh

That is the thing. Moscow becomes the default city. Who wants the blondest, the hottest or the meh when they are damn difficult to bed.
I want to pick a Russian city, for a month, after Tashkent next March.
It will probably be Moscow.
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Stavropol is very much third tier because a lot of business is drawn to Krasnodar and Rostov, which are wealthier and larger. There isn't anything particularly wrong with Stavropol itself, but it's typical of other cities of similar population and economy - there isn't a lot to do.
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Very interesting pictures of St. Petersburg (then Leningrad) in 1965:

http://fishki.net/1606251-leningrad-1965...fijah.html

It's weird to think they were taken 50 years ago and in the stereotypically grey, poor and scary Soviet Union.

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(09-14-2015 10:10 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Anyone been to Sochi? Climate looks nice.

I was in Sochi last year from the end of May to the end of June (about three weeks). Temperatures varied from low 70s to low 80s. Very pleasant for hiking and nature activities of which there are many. Intermittent torrential downpours were not uncommon.

Except for a few mainstays in Sochi proper, most of the clubs are randomly placed throughout the Adler/Sochi corridor don't even open early June, with some not opening until late June/early July.

Didn't bang while I was there, making only slow progress with a couple of local girls. The chances of getting made juggling more than one girl in this town are astronomical, as limited options, stereotypical village mentality and small social circles rule. If I were to go again I wouldn't step foot in there until the first week of July and with an extreme bias towards tourists, unless you are looking for something more long-term.
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One month in update: Russia is slowing my game hard. I banged 3 girls in California in a week before coming here using my house I was preparing to rent and "stability" as leverage. In a month here I have no lays. That is ZERO. I had 2 in 14 days when traveling here in the spring. There have been opportunities but, I'm not motivated for fast sex. I'm here for a year and looking for quality and a solid woman. This surprises even me and will this forum as well. My logistics suck to start but mostly the girls are so nice and sweet, I can't bring myself to game them for fast encounters.

My desire is also to find this 1st class slavic woman and I am not willing to risk my reputation in my social circle. The women here are really genuine and I'm building a legitimate social circle that has given me access to dates with 19-24 year olds consistently. I can't push the physical limits like I can in the states because girls here are really kind and will help me in any way. I have had girls with no money pay my phone bill just to help me or travel from far places outside the center just to run errands with me or help me with simple tasks. I just want to treat them well as they deserve it. In the states with trashy girls who are fast, I don't mind pushing limits. Here I can't bring myself to do it. Sure the typical member here probably dates club girls from online or top clubs, but outside of these areas, women are very traditional and slow. Personally, I dislike the wealthy women here and there are plenty of them. Young, normal women (19-22) are open to dating old men like me (34) but you will need to "date" them and take them out. I'm in the "dating" phase with several women of this group and will report on progress in future posts. Most of these young girls are in the 7 range. However, I have been dating a 24 YO 9 who is so hot that I can't take my eyes off of her. Our personalities do not mesh perfectly but damn she is hot. My indifference toward her personality has helped my game with her.

In summary, authentic devooshki are slow and cautious. I have gone out a lot and been pushing myself hard to meet people in the day, night and social circle sphere. I have almost abandoned internet game. I have added 70 girls on social media in 30 days to give you some perspective on my approach statistics. It usually takes 7-10 days to set up date #1 as they all know I will be here a year and there is no rush. This is because I'm busy and many girls here are too. I think Moscow girls have full schedules, unlike Kiev or even California. I'm sure I would have much more fast sex success if I were operating with girls closer to my age. I think if I were a traveler, or with a time limit it would help me move faster too as urgency comes into play. Older girls are open to me very much, but I have been avoiding contact with them as I get that range in the states. I'm here to be unique, and date unique. Overall, I love it here and enjoy traditional dating with young girls. I could care less about my lack of bangs. I also met up with @CalmoApparente and talked game over tea and went out to a couple night game spots. Limited targets presented themselves while were out, but I'm sure we would do good and kill it in the right setting.
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So are do Russians not like Turkish guys? I'm half Turkish half English and thinking about going to Russia for a week or so next year.
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(10-11-2015 03:37 PM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  One month in update: Russia is slowing my game hard. I banged 3 girls in California in a week before coming here using my house I was preparing to rent and "stability" as leverage. In a month here I have no lays. That is ZERO. I had 2 in 14 days when traveling here in the spring. There have been opportunities but, I'm not motivated for fast sex. I'm here for a year and looking for quality and a solid woman. This surprises even me and will this forum as well. My logistics suck to start but mostly the girls are so nice and sweet, I can't bring myself to game them for fast encounters.

My desire is also to find this 1st class slavic woman and I am not willing to risk my reputation in my social circle. The women here are really genuine and I'm building a legitimate social circle that has given me access to dates with 19-24 year olds consistently. I can't push the physical limits like I can in the states because girls here are really kind and will help me in any way. I have had girls with no money pay my phone bill just to help me or travel from far places outside the center just to run errands with me or help me with simple tasks. I just want to treat them well as they deserve it. In the states with trashy girls who are fast, I don't mind pushing limits. Here I can't bring myself to do it. Sure the typical member here probably dates club girls from online or top clubs, but outside of these areas, women are very traditional and slow. Personally, I dislike the wealthy women here and there are plenty of them. Young, normal women (19-22) are open to dating old men like me (34) but you will need to "date" them and take them out. I'm in the "dating" phase with several women of this group and will report on progress in future posts. Most of these young girls are in the 7 range. However, I have been dating a 24 YO 9 who is so hot that I can't take my eyes off of her. Our personalities do not mesh perfectly but damn she is hot. My indifference toward her personality has helped my game with her.

In summary, authentic devooshki are slow and cautious. I have gone out a lot and been pushing myself hard to meet people in the day, night and social circle sphere. I have almost abandoned internet game. I have added 70 girls on social media in 30 days to give you some perspective on my approach statistics. It usually takes 7-10 days to set up date #1 as they all know I will be here a year and there is no rush. This is because I'm busy and many girls here are too. I think Moscow girls have full schedules, unlike Kiev or even California. I'm sure I would have much more fast sex success if I were operating with girls closer to my age. I think if I were a traveler, or with a time limit it would help me move faster too as urgency comes into play. Older girls are open to me very much, but I have been avoiding contact with them as I get that range in the states. I'm here to be unique, and date unique. Overall, I love it here and enjoy traditional dating with young girls. I could care less about my lack of bangs. I also met up with @CalmoApparente and talked game over tea and went out to a couple night game spots. Limited targets presented themselves while were out, but I'm sure we would do good and kill it in the right setting.

Three words: Red October Island...Красный Октябрь остров. You will not have a problem with limited targets!
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I have been in Moscow quite few times in last 3 years. I would recommend a pub called Spb too. That is a cheap bar near Arbatskaya station (could be a bit tricky to find) on which mostly students hangs out. I have been there 3 times and never left with empty hands. Especially Thursday - Saturday between 5pm-10pm it is one of the best spot in Moscow IMHO. Beer and food is cheap and %80-90 young crowd with drinking attitude.

I pipeline on internet before my trip and somehow try to invite the girls to my place on first date (meeting). I use airbnb / booking.com and rent an apartment in arbat generally . Before meeting with girls i spend some time online chatting with them to show that i am no weirdo , have good job, social life and culture. I found out that most of the russian girls would not come home at same night with me if i meet with them in bar.

I have quite few girls lined up (mostly 6-7 aged between 19-24) for this Thursday to Sunday. I normally have 1-2 bangs in 3 days in moscow and pretty much never with same girl .

If someone is around this thursday to sunday in moscow, give me a shout.
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^ Agree about SPB.
Good crowd and very reasonable prices.
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(09-14-2015 10:10 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Anyone been to Sochi? Climate looks nice.

Or Stavropol?

I was in Sochi in September two years ago.
The place was a mess before the Olympics.

The place looked alright, but I would highly recommend going over the border to Abkhazia right on the other side of the border.
Very interesting place at the best hidden backwaters of the Soviet Union.

I wrote a short datasheet about it.
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33887.html
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(05-11-2014 07:57 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Here's my initial impressions (disclaimer: subject to change):

-There are tons of similarities between Ukraine and Russia. Coming here with a Ukraine working knowledge has been very helpful to get started. There have been a couple surprises, but not many. I'm a bit disappointed that they are so similar because it doesn't feel like I'm in a completely new country. Many things are familiar to me.

-Russian girls are way less skeptical of my background (in spite of my Middle Eastern appearance). In Ukraine, a girl will immediately ask "Where are your parents from?" after telling her I'm from the States. I'd be accused of being Turkish as if on trial. In Russia, only one girl has even asked about my ethnicity. Also, I was concerned that girls would think I'm from the Caucuses, but this has yet to happen, so my appearance here is more favorable than in Ukraine, and one girl said I was a "beautiful" man. One guy questioned my background, but after seeing my passport, which I always carry at night, he bought me a drink. I feel more welcome in Russia than Ukraine, and can't say I have experienced prejudice yet.

-There is a slight American god factor. I guess that's a spoiler than I'm not in Moscow. I've had interactions suddenly lift in energy when telling a girl I'm from Washington, but unless she has a sincere interest in wanting to get to know me, it will only be a short term boost. Nonetheless, it's still cool to get such positive reactions just by stating where I'm from.

-Russian girls like beards more than Ukrainian. Girls are stroking my beard like I'm a Persian cat. In Ukraine that never happens. One girl said, "Strong men have beards." I can safely keep a longer beard here. I'm very pleased at this development.

-I have not been face controlled (yet) even though I'm going out alone. I suit up when I go out so maybe that's a factor.

-Russian girls are more fun, sensual, and seductive at night than Ukrainian. These girls really know how to party and let loose. They are friendly and want to have a good time. I also noticed that are incredibly touchy feely, sort of like Brazilian girls (maybe even more so). But as I learned, this should not be confused with strong interest.

-Russian girls get drunk at the club. This is not good for me because my game is more conversational where I try to seek out a real connection. Drunk girls are hard to corral and also have short attention spans. My personality is not loose enough to do well with heavily intoxicated girls in the clubs, especially since I don't drink that much.

-Day game in Russia and Ukraine is close to identical for me so far. There is a aloof vibe when starting and also a directness if you go for the close and she doesn't want to (they will simply say "Thanks but I don't want to meet you again"). I've done less than 10 day approaches but I can't say the vibe is much different. At night the vibe is way looser and more friendly, though going out alone is not that fun. I really need a wingman. Sad

-Girls are much prettier at night. During the day you don't see an overwhelming amount of pretty girls, but at night, it's... amazing. Last night I was in a club with so many beautiful girls that I was frozen for about 30 minutes. This blows away everywhere else but Ukraine. It's pretty clear to me now that if you want beauty, Ukraine and Russia has the highest concentration.

-Girls are polite. They give me a chance when I open, even when they don't like me. They're much nicer than Ukrainian girls. I have not once encountered a rude girl who treated me coldly, even when I approached a half-naked club dancer girl. This is so refreshing after my month in DC where girls (who were much uglier) treated me like dirt for no reason.

-Russian language ability is pretty much required. I have met one girl who was conversational in English so far out of about 20 total approaches. Many girls can understand English, however, if you speak slowly. English is so rare that I wouldn't recommend anyone come to my current city unless you are an upper beginner. I think I take for granted that I can more or less communicate with girls in Russian. This could be a reason for the generally positive responses I get.

-Club girls are extractive. I got tricked twice into buying drinks for girls. They were learning experiences, but girls here are more skilled at extraction than Ukrainian. This isn't to be confused with "scamming" like in Latvia, where a girl will lead you to a scam bar or outright rob you. Here, the girls will use you for attention or drinks if you let them. Their acting ability is strong (they pretend to like you when really they have ulterior motives).

-Entertainment is very expensive. Clubs are not cheap at all, just like in Ukraine. Taxi rides, cover charges, and drinks add up very quickly. On Saturday night I spent $120 without really trying. Coffee shops are also expensive. I really don't understand how these people can afford it based on their income level.

I want to give a shout-out to Slubu's Russia thread. His experiences closely match my own so it has been a great starting point for me. He did a lot of groundwork in understanding Russian women in night environments and I hope to add to this in the upcoming weeks.

Russia is the country where I first started getting laid a lot by beautiful women. I didn't at first. Only after I started going hard at learning game. I'm also a very big fan of the Russian language and now translate it as my job. However, I'll disagree with Russian being a requirement. I often times went out experimenting with speaking to girls in English. They get quite excited about some one they can speak English with. I lived in Nizhny Novgorod, not even a rich city or anything. And I can say for sure that Russians speak a lot better English than Ukrainians. I lived in both Russia and Ukraine (Odessa). Russia is easier to meet girls if you're a foreigner. Lots of Ukrainian girls actually despise Westerners assuming that they're sex tourists. Anyway, I went and opened conversations in English in the beginning sometimes. Speaking English will certainly interest a lot of girls. However, on the flip side it is the girls that speak English that most frequently want to eventually take advantage of a foreign guy. I've always preferred girls that specifically have no interest in America or English. Besides the ghetto (bydlo) kind, the girls that speak only Russian are usually a lot more real and sincere. I'm pretty familiar with Russian girls as I've spent 3 years of my life there. And I would advise guys to meet girls who speak so-so English, instead of really good English. A lot of those girls tend to be materialistic.
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(10-12-2015 05:27 AM)KingOfMoscow Wrote:  I have been in Moscow quite few times in last 3 years. I would recommend a pub called Spb too. That is a cheap bar near Arbatskaya station (could be a bit tricky to find) on which mostly students hangs out. I have been there 3 times and never left with empty hands. Especially Thursday - Saturday between 5pm-10pm it is one of the best spot in Moscow IMHO. Beer and food is cheap and %80-90 young crowd with drinking attitude.

I pipeline on internet before my trip and somehow try to invite the girls to my place on first date (meeting). I use airbnb / booking.com and rent an apartment in arbat generally . Before meeting with girls i spend some time online chatting with them to show that i am no weirdo , have good job, social life and culture. I found out that most of the russian girls would not come home at same night with me if i meet with them in bar.

I have quite few girls lined up (mostly 6-7 aged between 19-24) for this Thursday to Sunday. I normally have 1-2 bangs in 3 days in moscow and pretty much never with same girl .

If someone is around this thursday to sunday in moscow, give me a shout.
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@KingofMoscow, something doesn't gel with your story. Russia is notoriously difficult for ONS (i'm not just speaking from my own experience but also relying on others i've hung out with and other posts)...either you've got some other world game that few have or you're exaggerating just a bit.
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