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(11-14-2015 05:26 PM)mikado Wrote:  Something I won't deny is that majority of Muslims in France are "racaille" or very very poor and live in ghetto/shitholes.
And yes, among them, many are seeking welfare only. Their children are always cursing, insulting people, have a bad level of french, deal drugs etc.

I think most of the disagreements I have with RoooshVforumers stems from the fact that even when I try to be objective, obviously my personal, professional and school experience is way different from those aforementionned (no welfare for me, not poor but not very rich either, good marks at school, red pill etc), thus I tend to paint immigrants way more positively than the majority in France are.

I think the problem is that France took too much people from Maghreb as mean to get some cheap labour force. The thing is, you can assimilate a person, but not a population.
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Do French politicians and SJWs also push that bullshit line that if you deport trash then no one will be around to do the "critical" jobs and the economy will collapse overnight?
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(11-14-2015 05:14 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  A friend is trying to say the reason Muslims hate us is because of the Crusades. A lot of people seem to do this.

It seems people never learn in school (I didn't) that the Spanish were occupied by Muslim invaders for several hundreds of years just before the Crusades. The Crusades only started about 60 years after the Muslims had been ran out of Spain.

That's not what happened. You're confusing the Crusades with the Spanish Inquisition.

Spanish Inquisition started in 1450's. Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492. Not a coincidence, by the way.

The first Crusade was in 1096 in response to cries for help from the Christian middle east and Turkey that was being invaded and raped to death for over 300 years since the advent of Mohammed in the 700's.

The first Crusade was moral, just, and extremely successful. A force of roughly 40K Christian soldiers went on to conquer armies and siege cities 10x their size. The first crusade's success was nothing short of miraculous. People ask for proof of God and yet the first Crusade is obvious evidence of unbelievable things happening that can still be proven happened. One army: sieging multiple cities (sieging back in 1100 usually took months or years with extended supply lines) with virtually no supply lines in just weeks, killing endless wave after wave of Muslim forces through the heart of the Middle East, and taking back Jerusalem.

The leader of the First Crusade has dozens of rumors about him that persist to this day; he was so strong he could kill 2-3 armed men at same time, he once fought off a bear that nearly killed him in Turkey and instead killed the bear with just his hands. Stuff of pure legend and yet we have evidence it all happened:

[Image: 1599px-Crusader_Graffiti_in_the_Church_o..._-1-21.jpg]

Crusader markings inside the Church of the Holy Sepulchre (which was built in Jerusalem the 300's)

The Dome of Rock, which is one of the most sacred Islamic temples in the world, had Crusader architecture in it that persisted until 1960:

http://www.sacred-destinations.com/israe...f-the-rock

Quote:The small, flat mihrab (niche showing the direction of Mecca) belongs to the original building, and is the oldest mihrab preserved in the Islamic world. The wooden screen around the sacred rock was donated by the Ayyubid sultan al-Aziz in 1198. The Crusaders protected the rock from relic-snatching pilgrims by erecting a wrought-iron screen between the columns of the circle; it remained in place until 1960 and is now on display in the Islamic Museum.

Funny how the Muslims preserve the Crusaders artifacts even though the Crusaders slaughtered untold hundreds of thousands of Muslims. The Muslims have infinitely more respect for dangerous warriors than they do the pussies you see among the left today, that much is obvious.

Anyhow, Rio, the event you're talking about that occured with the Spanish was the Spanish Inquisition, which was the final part of the reconquista, the result being all non-Christians being forcibly expelled from Spain and the rise of Spain as the world's foremost superpower for the next 100 years. The Spanish were bred into warriors during 600 years of occupation by their Muslim Moor masters, who treated the Spanish like shit until they transformed into bloodthirsty warriors that conquered 2/3's of America as well as terrorize Europe.

But to sum up: The First crusade was justified, successful holy war of righteousness, and happened in roughly 1100. Every other Crusade was a failure and tried to copy the First Crusade but was only motivated by greed and therefore unjustified.

The Spanish Inquisition was more or less justified reaction to brutal Islamic oppression over 600 years, and happened in 1450 and was part of the chain of events that led to the discovery of America.

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(11-14-2015 05:44 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  Do French politicians and SJWs also push that bullshit line that if you deport trash then no one will be around to do the "critical" jobs and the economy will collapse overnight?

Yeah, still going strong.

By the way, two have been identified.

First one, French citizen, Ismael M.

Condamné entre 8 à 10 fois entre 2004 et 2010 pour des délits de droit commun, Ismaël M. n'a jamais été incarcéré. En 2010, celui-ci fait l'objet d'une fiche S pour radicalisation mais n'avait, jusque-là, jamais été impliqué dans une association de terroristes ou de malfaiteurs.

Sentenced 8 to 10 times between 2004 and 2010 for common law infractions, Ismael M. was never incarcerated. In 2010 he got a "Fiche S" for radicalization but until now was never identified as belonging to an association of terrorists or gangsters. Supposedly was in Syria between the fall and the spring of 2014.


Second one: Abbdulakbak.B.

Syrian guy, unknown by french police. He spent 38 hours on the Greek Island Leros on October 3rd before coming to France.

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(11-14-2015 05:44 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  Do French politicians and SJWs also push that bullshit line that if you deport trash then no one will be around to do the "critical" jobs and the economy will collapse overnight?

Yeah, that's a very old line but we still get it some times. I think the SJWs we have in France are quite similar to those there are in the US.

(11-14-2015 05:46 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Funny how the Muslims preserve the Crusaders artifacts even though the Crusaders slaughtered untold hundreds of thousands of Muslims. The Muslims have infinitely more respect for dangerous warriors than they do the pussies you see among the left today, that much is obvious.

In a general manner, it seems muslim people only respect force. That might explain why they need dictators. In France we even have some muslims supporting Marine Lepen's far right party. They are like children looking for authority. Basically, they need to submit.
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A few more things: I agree the jihadists were running around and killing, raping and enslaving people in Europe since before Western invasions of the Middle East and the Crusades began. (If I'm not mistaken). The Battle of Tours in 732 after Christ is just one example.

This doesn't mean that recent Western bomb and interventionist campaigns may not have aggravated things, but they are not the original cause. Jihadism, islamism and their inherent and outspoken goal to colonize Europe is.

I sympathize with Muslims in the Middle East getting their village destroyed in a bomb raid. But not with Muslims in Europe who become radicalized and join isis, turning on the continent which has received them and given them everything.

I think it's important to distinguish jihadists, islamists from peaceful Muslims. It's ignorant to say all Muslims are bad. The question which version of islam is the "true" one is mostly an academic one. The solution would maybe be to defeat jihadism and islamism without bombing. A start would be to stop the financial and weaponry flow to isis.

Interesting interview with acclaimed journalist Robert Frisk about isis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN679oUX37I

Video about the history of jihadist invasions and raids of Europe, very worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y
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Nous déplorons la mort de 129 personnes , bilan provisoire et évolutif, compte tenu du nombre de blessés : 352 personnes blessés dont au moins 99 en état d'urgence absolu. 7 terroristes sont morts lors de l'attentat"

At the moment: 129 dead, 352 injured including at least 99 in urgency state. 7 terrorists dead.

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This article was posted on the Refugee Crisis thread, but it's just as relevant here.

Syrian civil war, oil prices, Russian/American influence, and refugees EXPLAINED.

Unless you already have an extreme in-depth understanding of the situation, this is a must-read document. It's relatively short, but very in depth. Read it!
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Saudi Arabias role in funding Islamic schools that teach this to children is never mentioned. It is the root of all of this, both financially and theologically.
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The part that angers me the most is the shit the pundits are saying.

"This was a shocking tragedy"
Are you kidding me? You let millions of illiterate military aged men fleeing a warzone, some of whom might be from one of the most bloodthirsty terrorist groups in recent history into the hearts of your countries with the most lax of background checks, and you're shocked that this shit happened?

"This was a tragedy."
Yes, and because you will do nothing about it, it will happen again. You pundits are part of the problem.

"We must protect Muslims from Islamaphobia and reach out to them to prevent future attacks."
You are playing directly into their hands, dhimmi.
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^ Great summary of a complex, multiple centuries of history.

1492 was huge:

Muslims defeated after 700+ years of occupation in Iberia, with a peaceful handover of their remaining territory of Granada; non-Christians expelled from the peninsula; sponsorship of Columbus's expedition to the Indies, and the beginning of over a century of prosperity as the preeminent power in the West. Not bad for a then-recently unified kingdom

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Anyway, this islamism problematic should not be the tree that hides the forest that is Europe's main problem: white people's replacement by people from the african continent. (and thus cultural replacement as well)
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(11-14-2015 02:11 PM)brick tamland Wrote:  Mass killing is cruel. But is this 9/11 Lite? AFP reports that a Syrian passport was 'found near the body of one of the attackers' at the Bataclan concert hall.
So why would a 'jihadist' be so mindful as to carry his passport with him before shooting dozens of people.

To rub it in their faces. These guys don't won't anonymity, they want the fame and glory and 72 virgins.

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(11-14-2015 05:51 PM)solipsis85 Wrote:  In a general manner, it seems muslim people only respect force. That might explain why they need dictators. In France we even have some muslims supporting Marine Lepen's far right party. They are like children looking for authority. Basically, they need to submit.

That's right. Islam literally means to submit.

And that is the end goal for the fanatic muslim: To either submit the world to their will, or have themselves submitted to their overlords. They will not accept it any other way.
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(11-14-2015 05:58 PM)solipsis85 Wrote:  Anyway, this islamism problematic should not be the tree that hides the forest that is Europe's main problem, that is to say white people's replacement by people from the african continent.

Which is only possible because of an apostate Western Europe. Notice, the Christian parts of the world will resist Islam and Talmudic Judaization subversion, but the non-Christian parts are going to be eradicated very quickly.

People don't understand, "White" people you see today are the result of a Christian breeding program implemented over 1700 years ago. Whites before Christianity were stupid, extremely violent and strong, and prone to incredible violence at the slightest provocation.

Whites today are so far removed from their barbarian past, they just do not realize the unbelievable importance God had in transforming them. It is a crime that this history is hidden from them.

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(11-14-2015 03:30 PM)mikado Wrote:  
(11-14-2015 03:26 PM)Curious Wrote:  Mikado, don't you see ISIS as a potential threat to you and your family?
If you are French, you could have been in any of those places stacked last night.
Why don't non-ISIS Muslims join the fight against radical Wahhabism?

I live in France, but I am not French.

I thought the French accepted everyone if they chose to be French, like learn the language etc. I remember reading that somewhere. Maybe when I was reading about the Foreign Legion. If you accept France, then you are French. So basically, you live in France but don't accept France?

I'm not trying to be a dick. In America, we have Mexican Americans. Chinese Americans, etc. They can honor their culture but embrace being an American.

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(11-14-2015 05:57 PM)Menace Wrote:  Saudi Arabias role in funding Islamic schools that teach this to children is never mentioned. It is the root of all of this, both financially and theologically.

The Saudi royal role in this is well known. They pay the Wahhabists a considerable ransom for Mecca. They also let extremism flourish under their noses and they try to redirect it from the "holy land" to the land of "infidels" so they can keep relative peace and prosperity in their theocratic nightmare kingdom while they shit in the mouths of instagram whores.
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(11-14-2015 05:17 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  
(11-14-2015 04:28 PM)Requiem Wrote:  
GlobalMan Wrote:Why do yo refuse to understand that Islam attacks the West because that's what they are mandated to do? Why do you think they only attack us because of recent military actions in their lands? The Islamic extremists have been attacking whites, Christians for centuries because it is their duty to do so.

Please listen to your own CIA-members:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHl1JnQoIWQ

It's been happening since before the USA was even a nation, long before we went into their countries, long before oil, long before any adventures in the middle east. What Americans have done in recent history is not the cause for Islamic extremism. It just isn't. Are they happier when we bomb them? Probably not. But it is not the catalyst for this issue.

By 1800 we spent 20% of our national budget paying ransoms to muslims for the release of Americans who had been enslaved.

Yes, I know that jihad is not a new invention of the 20th century and that lots of them used to be very aggressive and violent towards the west. But today is a different situation entirely. Those of them who live(d) with relative wealth are usually secular and might not like you, but wouldn’t attack you (Iranian people seem to love you). The actual extremists are the literal “sandniggers”, but they would lack the means to do anything to you. The reason why they can is because A) you guys stir up the hornets nest, thereby making wealthy people like Bin Laden come after you or B) because you and your “allies” (e.g. Saudi Arabia, Israel) give them the means to do it (see ISIS). Also, your interventions fuel their hatred, thereby increasing their motives to act upon their believes. If no wealthy country would give them arms and money and the US would keep to themselves, you would have no trouble. IF someone still tried to attack you, which is highly unlikely, then the secret service would be able to know about it beforehand and prevent a strike.

I'm aware this is not a popular opinion on this forum, especially after the recent events, and I'm not making any friends here, but the leftist cliche still holds true: not all Muslims are terrorists. Certain people may want you to believe otherwise, but it's just not true. Does this mean, I want them in my country or see them spread in the US? No! I hate to see that happen. But as far as war and terrorism goes, it is important to not believe the hype and jump on the bandwagon of exaggerating stereotypes. You just harm yourself with that and it's exactly what the elite wants you to do.
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(11-14-2015 06:04 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  
(11-14-2015 03:30 PM)mikado Wrote:  
(11-14-2015 03:26 PM)Curious Wrote:  Mikado, don't you see ISIS as a potential threat to you and your family?
If you are French, you could have been in any of those places stacked last night.
Why don't non-ISIS Muslims join the fight against radical Wahhabism?

I live in France, but I am not French.

I thought the French accepted everyone if they chose to be French, like learn the language etc. I remember reading that somewhere. Maybe when I was reading about the Foreign Legion. If you accept France, then you are French. So basically, you live in France but don't accept France?

I'm not trying to be a dick. In America, we have Mexican Americans. Chinese Americans, etc. They can honor their culture but embrace being an American.

We don't like french born people to be too eloquent about their origin's culture, except when it comes to food. Especially not if it's about religion.
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(11-14-2015 06:04 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  
(11-14-2015 03:30 PM)mikado Wrote:  
(11-14-2015 03:26 PM)Curious Wrote:  Mikado, don't you see ISIS as a potential threat to you and your family?
If you are French, you could have been in any of those places stacked last night.
Why don't non-ISIS Muslims join the fight against radical Wahhabism?

I live in France, but I am not French.

I thought the French accepted everyone if they chose to be French, like learn the language etc. I remember reading that somewhere. Maybe when I was reading about the Foreign Legion. If you accept France, then you are French. So basically, you live in France but don't accept France?

I'm not trying to be a dick. In America, we have Mexican Americans. Chinese Americans, etc. They can honor their culture but embrace being an American.

My bad.
I can see why you understood it like this.
I meant I do not have the citizenship. But if I got it, I would feel more french than senegalese, to be honest. I can't even speak well my mother tongue and communicate with my father since I always used French, and followed french values even in Senegal.

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(11-14-2015 05:46 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Anyhow, Rio, the event you're talking about that occured with the Spanish was the Spanish Inquisition, which was the final part of the reconquista, the result being all non-Christians being forcibly expelled from Spain and the rise of Spain as the world's foremost superpower for the next 100 years. The Spanish were bred into warriors during 600 years of occupation by their Muslim Moor masters, who treated the Spanish like shit until they transformed into bloodthirsty warriors that conquered 2/3's of America as well as terrorize Europe.

I'm talking about the Muslim rule in Spain from 711 or so until the collapse of the Umayyad/Caliphate of Cordoba. I was under the impression that was the end of Spanish rule in Spain, but it appears I was wrong on that?

Thanks for clearing it up.
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It is crazy but I might actually switch to Fox News. Might be closer to the way I am feeling.

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I'm starting to speculate that this whole situation was intended to happen by the global elites to further justify military intervention in the middle east. Of course this is all conjecture, I'm not claiming I'm right about this, but certainly some dots are starting to connect:

1. Open the borders to hundreds of thousands of Islamists from the world's worst war zones, inevitably allowing terrorist groups to infiltrate.

2. Terrorists groups wreak havoc as was the case in Paris. Already 1 Syrian passport has been found, linking the attack to the migrant crisis.

3. The first reaction from UK, French, and US leaders is to bomb ISIS. Which, on its face, makes absolutely no fucking sense. Terrorists attack us because we are involved in Syria/Iraq, so the solution is to... become more involved? The obvious solution is to close the borders and harshly clamp down on Muslims (no religious protection under law, no mosques, etc.) until they leave our countries. We aren't allowed to talk about that option because ISLAMOPHOBIA.

This is eerily similar to what happened with 9/11. Bush administration clearly knew it was coming, they allowed the hijackers into the US, and even allowed them to carry on their activities unimpeded. Immediately after the attacks, literally on the same day they occurred, Bush and Cheney had a meeting to plan to invasion of Iraq.

Of course, the most logical, common sense solution is never mentioned: closing the borders, not giving any more visas to Muslims, and leaving them alone. Osama said that they attacked us because we had bases on Muslim holy land - almost exactly the same rational that ISIS used to justify the Paris attacks. What do the elites do? Double down, invade Iraq and Afghanistan, and the military industrial complex made TRILLIONS. Cheney's buddies made out like bandits.

Seems like the same situation repeating here. Was the migrant crisis meant to provoke such attacks to justify military endeavors? I'm not certain, but I wouldn't discount it. And now we have our answer as to "why" the elites would betray their own people with this migrant invasion.
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Well, dear leader, apparently ISIS isn't the "JV team" anymore. Better get off your ass and take these motherfuckers out before this stuff comes back to the USA.
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