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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
^^^^alot of people are idiots.

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03-10-2016 09:12 AM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
(03-10-2016 09:06 AM)Kamaki4 Wrote:  Beirut, you're not missing anything. Not only Expedia, but the vast majority of full service airlines allow you to cancel your flight within 24 hours of booking even if you paid. I actually don't understand why anyone would use flyonward when there are other options that will not cost a dime.

If you book a flight, then that money is gone for the time being - even if you cancel the ticket it can take a few days for it to be refunded back. As I usually only keep a few hundred bucks on my (prepaid) credit card, this matters to me, but to US guys and other heavy credit card users it may not matter that much.
03-10-2016 09:45 AM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
You guys should be careful. Not all airlines have these cancellation policies in place and many airlines require round-trip travel originating in the US. Read Delta's cancellation policy. A Tokyo to Atlanta one way doesn't qualify (although legally it should, but that's another debate).

Still though, this service is probably just buying your "tickets' off of an online travel agency (a fee free one) with a forgiving cancellation policy.

I would say that if you can't float the $100 or so to cancel the cheapest one way out of your destination then you shouldn't be traveling at all.
03-10-2016 06:19 PM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
You can use a bus or train ticket as proof too.

I usually call a visa company and get them to book me a ticket to Cambodia. You pay on the day but if you ask, they'll send you an invoice with your full name and passport number.
03-10-2016 10:35 PM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
First week in BKK. More impressions:

- Online game (tinder) is as fruitful as in the Philippines. Got 5 girls in the first week after getting 100 matches
- Tons of slim feminine cute women everywhere you go
- It's hard to set up meetings during the day because most girls are working, but have had success with young university students
- Sukhumvit between Nana and Phrom Phong have lots of ladyboys and pros... went to Oskar and Levels last night and it was chock full of well dressed farang men of all ages, between tweeners and retirees.
- Brought some work with me and the internet connection is great.
- The food: oh man...!

BKK is a great city. I'm not completely sold on it yet, though. The feeling of being a foreigner there is even more stark than in the Philippines because of the language barrier. It will be very helpful to learn some Thai here.
03-11-2016 03:25 AM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
(03-11-2016 03:25 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  First week in BKK. More impressions:

went to Oskar and Levels last night and it was chock full of well dressed farang men of all ages, between tweeners and retirees.

Yeah I have heard quite often that people are astonished that there are so many foreigners at Levels etc, but you have to understand that this is a club specifically geared towards foreigners. A Thai guy won't go to Levels, only with his Western friends maybe.
03-11-2016 07:00 AM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
Those are just marginally more subtle freelance joints, most of the women are either tourists,pros,semi pros or gold diggers. Easy to pick up especially in Levels just not much longevity as it's always the same crowd with very little rotation.
03-12-2016 12:12 AM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
(03-10-2016 05:57 AM)atlant Wrote:  Immigration itself rarely cares, however in the case that they do, the airline in question is on the hook for getting you back to your point of departure if you have been denied entry, which is why they nearly always require an onward flight at check in. I always use this in these situations: http://www.flyonward.com

For 10 bucks they issue you (AKA "lease" you), through a real booking agency, a real, actual ticket valid for 24 hours that you can show as your proof of onward flight, so you don't have to dabble with printing fake tickets or floating bigger amounts of cash just to purchase and later cancel a proper flight.

Quite a few US OTAs have free 24 hour cancellation policies. Don't be a schmuck and pay $10 for something that can be done in 5 minutes.
03-12-2016 01:45 AM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
Newbie tip. For those of you visiting BKK for the first time, try to make your way up to the Ratchada stop on the MRT, go through the Esplanade shopping mall, and exit from the other side.

You will see a HUGE outdoor market with all kinds of Thai street foods, flea markets, and anything you could possibly buy. There were THOUSANDS of people milling about through the market aisles. It was a smorgasbord of fresh foods cooked or grilled right on the spot, better than you can usually find in restaurants, and for much cheaper.

I discovered this place by accident... I had a girl with me that day and I asked her to find me a good pad thai place. She thought about it, and said she'd take me to that large market and we had pad thai with seafood including fish, squid, and shrimp. I've never had squid before, and I usually hate shrimp, but THIS was dope.

And the best part was there was TONS of hot girls with short retro shorts and tank tops. So many nubile leggies, and not a single farang in sight. I was gawking with my mouth open all over the place... at both food and girls. The place is very Thai, though. I doubt people there speak much English, unlike Sukhumvit. Even so, go there at least once. Whether or not you take a girl with you, it's up to you.

On a side note...

This girl who took me there, we went after we banged. Prior to the bang, she made me promise that we wouldn't have sex. Pinkie swear, and she made me repeat what I said: "we're not having sex!"

Then an hour later, she asks if I want kids someday.

I look at her silly. "You made me promise we wouldn't have sex on the first date, and now you're asking if I want kids??" She buckled over laughing as I gave her shit about it. Big Grin

We ended up banging, and afterward she playfully hit me with a frown, "you promised we wouldn't have sex." I gave an innocent shrug, "it just happened..."

Her response? She laughed, gave a knowing look as if to say "good answer", hugged and kissed me on the lips.
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03-13-2016 12:59 AM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
Welcome to Bangkok!
The market is called talad rot fai Ratchada.
Mrt stop : Thailand cultural center.
Been my favourite spot in bkk for pre drink game etc... Enjoy!
03-13-2016 03:24 AM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
Just an FYI route 66 is now closing at 2 am and the outside area has been reduced to about half size with only a handful of stand up tables and just 1 bar open.

Seemed significantly less busy last night (Saturday).

Apparently a knock on from the onyx raid etc seems like it may continue until further notice .
03-13-2016 08:06 AM
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(03-13-2016 12:59 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Newbie tip. For those of you visiting BKK for the first time, try to make your way up to the Ratchada stop on the MRT, go through the Esplanade shopping mall, and exit from the other side.

Correction: Thailand Cultural Center stop on the MRT, not Ratchada. Thanks Placebo!
03-13-2016 08:40 AM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
Looking forward to hitting Bangkok for the fist time post red pill. I've been there twice before but both times with my ex gf. Lots of great info in this thread, can't wait to put it into practice.
I'll be in BKK from the 16th - 21st staying in the Silom area if anyone is around and wants to grab a beer.
03-13-2016 09:52 AM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
Not sure if this is the right thread but how would you rate conservative high society thai families and the gain/ease of getting LTR'ed into one and how it would work out? Those conservative thai girls do seem a good prospect.

I know Thai girls are often either team foreign cock or team thai cock, I'm just curious as to what your experiences have been.

"Christian love bears evil, but it does not tolerate it. It does penance for the sins of others, but it is not broadminded about sin. Real love involves real hatred: whoever has lost the power of moral indignation and the urge to drive the sellers from temples has also lost a living, fervent love of Truth."

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03-13-2016 10:10 AM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
Can you marry / date old money in the US or your home country? Consider your chances out of social network close to nil.
03-13-2016 11:25 AM
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In my home country? Yes. I am saying this because I know a girl from Thailand who is into methat meets those conditions, but it's sheer curiosity. I'm way too young to be thinking about settling down, though she does look good,sweet girl, has money, stable family, etc.

"Christian love bears evil, but it does not tolerate it. It does penance for the sins of others, but it is not broadminded about sin. Real love involves real hatred: whoever has lost the power of moral indignation and the urge to drive the sellers from temples has also lost a living, fervent love of Truth."

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03-13-2016 11:32 AM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
@Lemon
There's no such thing as a conservative thai girl who fucks non thai guys, either she's conservative and sticks to her own or she's not (this goes for if you are in Thailand can't speak for out of it.)

I've LTR'd in the past a wealthy girl. They're pretty spoiled in general I would say which does not go well with the high polarity of emotion among thai people you will deal with tantrums, you will likely be followed if she becomes jealous ect. I think that the ease of finding thai girls with wealth and status who will date a foreigner is offset by the relative quality you would get if you met a girl with money in another country.

You will not meet her family unless you marry her and it won't be until you put that ring on her finger and it will probably be frowned upon by her extended family.

Worth going in raw tho see what happens.
03-13-2016 11:48 AM
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Maybe I expressed myself wrong, it's not as if she fucks foreigners. The girl is like 20 and never had a boyfriend or anything of the kind. She always did tend to show some interest in me but it wasn't really a sort of explicit sexual interest. But an underlying one perhaps.

Well I suppose that is a question that would require more direct measures though it seems asians can also follow the non confrontational route that some asians adhere to.

When I do end up "settling down" which will probably be quite a few years from now, it will probably be North East Asian and not really SEA. Or maybe if I'm lucky I'll find some european gem but the odds are looking slim Big Grin


(03-13-2016 11:48 AM)steak Wrote:  @Lemon
There's no such thing as a conservative thai girl who fucks non thai guys, either she's conservative and sticks to her own or she's not (this goes for if you are in Thailand can't speak for out of it.)

I've LTR'd in the past a wealthy girl. They're pretty spoiled in general I would say which does not go well with the high polarity of emotion among thai people you will deal with tantrums, you will likely be followed if she becomes jealous ect. I think that the ease of finding thai girls with wealth and status who will date a foreigner is offset by the relative quality you would get if you met a girl with money in another country.

You will not meet her family unless you marry her and it won't be until you put that ring on her finger and it will probably be frowned upon by her extended family.

Worth going in raw tho see what happens.

"Christian love bears evil, but it does not tolerate it. It does penance for the sins of others, but it is not broadminded about sin. Real love involves real hatred: whoever has lost the power of moral indignation and the urge to drive the sellers from temples has also lost a living, fervent love of Truth."

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03-13-2016 11:54 AM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
If the family are very traditional then expect to have to pay a fairly chunky dowry. That said its highly unlikely you'd get that far if it was that sort of family, unless you were settled here, high end career etc.

Quite a few of those types like to play around with a foreigner, especially if they've been educated overseas etc. but it's more of a phase before they settle down and do what they're "supposed to" of course to every rule there are exceptions.

That all applies to white guys less so other Asians.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
(03-11-2016 03:25 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  First week in BKK. More impressions:

- Online game (tinder) is as fruitful as in the Philippines. Got 5 girls in the first week after getting 100 matches
- Tons of slim feminine cute women everywhere you go
- It's hard to set up meetings during the day because most girls are working, but have had success with young university students
- Sukhumvit between Nana and Phrom Phong have lots of ladyboys and pros... went to Oskar and Levels last night and it was chock full of well dressed farang men of all ages, between tweeners and retirees.
- Brought some work with me and the internet connection is great.
- The food: oh man...!

BKK is a great city. I'm not completely sold on it yet, though. The feeling of being a foreigner there is even more stark than in the Philippines because of the language barrier. It will be very helpful to learn some Thai here.

"Got 5 girls" = 5 notches?

How is the quality compared to the Philippines?
03-13-2016 12:28 PM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
What do guys consider 'wealthy' when it comes to Thai girls?

Basically any girl that comes to the US for college?

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03-13-2016 12:54 PM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
@mentavious
family is worth 20 million US or more. There is no such thing as 'well off' thais in the American sense (within thailand.) There are those connected to royal blood, police and military, or 75% chinese ethnicity business families, and those who are not of either of those 2 lineage.

These families are the ones that own the real estate and employ the normal thais, though often because of buddhism the girls are normal worker bees while the the boys run the businesses and manage the family wealth.

there is a 0.5% of the population that own 99% of the wealth and property of the country. For example one family owns every 711 in the country

Often wealthy Thais do not go to American colleges or Universities, unless it is Harvard or some Ivy League school, it's just not part of their culture like maybe a Chinese person would do. Thais are very much in their own bubble in this sense
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^Isn't the 711 a franchise business? I thought anybody could open it and own the shop. They have to pay the franchise owner and comply with many rules, but it's their own small business. Is it different in Thailand?
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
Guys,

A while ago I posted in this forum for the first time. First of all I was amazed by your feedback! A late thank you! Thanks for the discussion about the age of girls going to clubs like RCA and your feedback regarding my age (btw I have no "growing hair out of my ears", I am big but not fat, and do dress somehow smarter than the Kao San tourist). Please note that I wrote 39+, actually I am mid 40. For the first time I told girls here I am 39 and none ever asked again.

Here are my observations:
⁃ I got endless shit tests, but I am prepared, thanks to you guys! Actually it is quite easy to turn it around. I had girls seeing me online on TF a day or so after taking them home and asking me what I did there. I said "just wanted to look at your photos again, but why are you still active on this site?". Then you typically receive an OK! sticker on Line.
⁃ TF has interesting girls only in the single digit percent range. Useful for somebody collecting first experiences in the area like me, but you have to sort out rigidly.
⁃ I ask all girls if they are ladyboys, not only the ones that look suspicious. None of them minds. Some even had a good laugh "I will tell all my friends that you asked me this, ladyboy better looking than girl" :-) So don't sweat it, just ask.
⁃ My time in BKK is limitted, but I could draw 4-5 interesting girls / week online. Would focus on nightlife more, if I was here for longer.
⁃ Tinder delivers good quality, intelligent and often good looking girls but they don't bite (or at least didn't for me). IMHO most of them are attention whores who enjoy receiving messages and tell you stuff like "I am going to bed now". I had much more success with Tinder girls in Colombia.
⁃ Compared to central Europe it seems like a piece of cake here to build a set of regulars for rotation. Had a girl every night in my room from day 3 on. None of them ever asked for money. I offered one some taxi money because she took a 1h ride to see me which she accepted. Almost all the times I paid their drinks (only one somehow asked if she she had to pay for herself) but then don't forget they were all more than 10 years younger than me (with one over 20 years younger, half my age).

Got my first bang from Tinder. Teased her with the pool and skyline view here and invited her straight to my hotel, got us cocktails, made out on a private area of the roof, took her to my room, banged her twice before cuming in her mouth. Sent her off next day at 3.30h and headed south to the islands.
A real joy, perfect body that would suit a 22 year old well, apparently she is 33. Sweet and submissive enough. Not being in this region a lot, I had such a slim asian 49kg body on my wish list for far too long. Done! Yes, based on her qualities she was doing that before, IMHO she is a farang hunter, but I couldn't care less.

Did her again on my way back from the islands. The following morning she asked to have a break. Pulled another one from TF. Took here to a real rooftop bar and banged her back in my hotel.
Was already prepared to have a quiet last day in BKK, then met a cute 24y old student. Took her for a glass of wine and banged back in hotel. Than again same girl next evening.

I like their bodies, also thai girls are somehow sweet, but 4 out of 6 dates were incredibly dull.

Another tip: Since Platinum mall is close to my hotel I went there several times to have lunch or dinner in their good food court on the top level. It's 85% women there, since it is woman fashion there mostly. So enjoy the food and look for some sweet desert.
Btw, Panthip Plaza is next door with all kind of IT gadgets.

Just my feedback. Hope it helps somebody else.

@CodyB "where is Grooves?": it is the newish bar area at Central World. Also thanks for your other comments!
I like the taxi / uber suggestion, used it when a girl mentioned she had to work next day early.

@adrenaline: yes girls look much worse than on TF / Tinder! Subtract 1.5 points on average. They have clever photos. But also they never complained about a well made photo of mine.
Also, yes, girls are very much on the guard, I did need a waterproof story to convince them.

@GlobalEntry, I 100% agree, a care free attitude is what counts. Took me 2 different dates to finally get there, then all of a sudden everything went swimmingly.
"fall in love with a hooker, then dust off ..." I was very close to try that out, after I failed on the first two dates I had :-)

Last but not least @kwisatz recommended "Private Dancer" by Stephen Leather as book / PDF which I thoroughly enjoyed. I read it in 2 days at the beach, learned a lot and highly recommend it. Seems like I can't link to his thread, so please search the forum if interested.

To conclude, I had more fun in 6 days in BKK than in 2 years in central Europe. Cool to be the exotic guy if only for a short while.
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(03-13-2016 12:28 PM)Cheetah Wrote:  "Got 5 girls" = 5 notches?

How is the quality compared to the Philippines?

Yes, I meant notches. Now at 6, all from online.

Quality is same or slightly better than Philippines, at least physically. But filipinas have more personality and better English. I find it a little hard to connect with Thais. Either way, I've gotten girls where I think "I don't get this quality back home... am I dreaming? Somebody pinch me..."
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