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Day 15 In 9 Hours!!!
While I don't want to jinx this I'm sure I got this indefinitely!! This has more to do with my overall shift in mindset (path of surrender) going on in my life rather than No-Fap itself.

However, this experiment is showing some intense willpower and self-control...

Also, I've switched things up started looking at porn as I DISLIKED the fact that I no longer thought about women or sex as my focus essentially went elsewhere. THIS IS NOT WHAT I WANT, I love my crazy sex fueled self so...

I started watching porn again without fapping because...
- I learn from others (especially their mistakes)
- I get to get an idea of potential NEW ideal types that I'd like to fuck
- I fucking LOVE WOMEN it just motivates me to get my life in order
- On no fap after I'm done watching (30mins max) I feel like a BEAST and also kind of like cold showers NOT FAPPING is a "just do it" discipline to NOT FAP

This is the first time in life where all areas of my life are in a state of "moving forward" regardless how small of a step I take on a weekly basis. I'm also MUCH MORE realistic about goals and what I can do in 1-day.

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I am on day 16 no fap and on day 38 no porn.
No fap is really easy here in SEA, I am so drained on daily basis, I don't even think fapping is possible.
Quitting porn for more than a month, and fapping without porn not more often then once a week in absence of women, made me better. I am more horny during sex, and the sex brings more pleasure. Get compliments about my performance much more often too.
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On Day 2 following a relapse where I fapped to porn. I actually felt great at first on Tuesday, but now I'm moody and feeling angry. This is in part due to falling behind in my work, and struggling with one of my classes. It's harder for me to quit porn right after masturbating to it because then all my mind thinks about is fapping to porn again ASAP. I think my key to overcoming porn as a habit is to fix my sleep schedule to keep the temptation out of my way.
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(03-14-2016 12:31 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  After going strong all of last year I relapsed recently as well. I've started day gaming on a college campus, and hours spent each day staring at tight young bodies in those goddamn yoga pants has sent my sex drive into...well, overdrive. A good problem to have, I suppose.

The one thing that's really helped me since I started NoFap might sound stupid, but I promise if you try it you'll be surprised at how effective it is. The next time you feel that urge to jerk it come up, say to yourself OUT LOUD:

"Don't touch your dick."

Seriously, say it out loud. Do it sternly, confidently. Like you're telling a child to keep his hands out of the cookie jar. Look in a mirror if you've got one nearby while you say it.

"Don't touch your dick."

Nothing bad can happen if you don't touch your dick.

Maybe you can't stop yourself from scrolling through the spring break photos that are about to flood Facebook. Maybe you get a lewd snapchat from a plate. Maybe your date flaked and you've been thinking about fucking all day and your computer's up and wouldn't it be so easy to just hop on over to pornhub and watch a couple of videos to help you get to sleep.

"Don't touch your dick."

You can't control the urges. You can't control the shit life throws at you. And if you're like me, once your hand makes physical contact with your junk it's game over. The animal hindbrain takes control and my rational self is just along for the ride.

The one thing you can control is not touching your dick.

JUST. SAY. NO.

This actually worked today. No bullshit. Great tip!
03-19-2016 01:20 AM
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(03-14-2016 07:56 PM)Travesty Wrote:  This is the #1 problem with me and no fap. If I didn't need to sit and focus for work and was just a wandering wealthy playboy it would be amazing.

When I do no fap long term I cannot concentrate on work for long periods. I start literally resenting everything about having to concentrate when I want to be out daygaming or drinking and nightgaming instead.

I understand the problem and used to have it as well. It is a mind-/attention-control thing you have to train. My guess is that the people who report laser-like focus on no fap are also the ones who started meditating. I would advise meditation to everyone regardless of their circumstances or not, but if it's not for you, you don't have to do it. But then use some similar practices, maybe while lying down or however feels comfortable.

When you get a strong urge, focus your attention on your body. Try to sense as much as possible. How does your left foot feel right now? Where does it have contact with the shoe or ground? How does your right knee feel like? Cann you feel the inside of your knee maybe? Don't say it's bullshit - just look and see if you can. Scan your whole body and see if you're tense, where you're tense, how strong the tension is. Feel how the air goes by your nostrils while breathing. After having done this for a while, focus on your "internal life". How do you feel exactly? Tense? Jittery? Not only bad feelings, you probably also feel very vital and energized. Really focus on how that feels.

ONLY IF the urge is still there at this point, sense that urge also. "Take it in" - don't be afraid of how strong it is, don't be afraid that focusing on it could make it even stronger. If the urge increases, let it increase, but focus on HOW EXACTLY it feels. Realize it as just that: a feeling. Don't be afraid of it, don't try to hide from it or push it away, accept the urge, let it grow if it does. If the urge is so high that all you can do is focus on the urge, then REALLY focus on the urge.
The mechanism is this:
you think: urge --> fuck that's bad, I don't want to feel the urge because it will make me break the streak --> try to avoid the urge --> I want to get rid of the urge --> make the urge go away, I HAVE TO MAKE THE URGE GO AWAY --> what is the only known method that your brain has learned thus far to reduce the urge? --> that's right, fap --> you set yourself up for relaps

if you do it the other way, it goes like this: urge --> oh there is the urge again --> let's see exactly how it feels this time, let's see how strong it gets this time, let's see what it does to me this time --> wow it's a really strong feeling, it increases my nervousness to quite some level, it is so strong that I can only focus on this, it triggers me to want to touch my dick --> I know this already, it was there yesterday and then it became weaker again, I allow it to be there for now and observe how it changes --> I feel extremely horny right now. It is just a feeling that I allow to be there. It is a part of me that I don't have to fight, I rather welcome it. It feels energizing. -->
Now for the mind control part: the urge feels good in a way and is so powerful that it triggers me to bring up sexual images in my head. --> When I have these images in my head, it feels even better and the urge grows even stronger --> the stronger the urge, the more images --> vicious circle --> I want to use the power of the sexual tension instead to bring up other stuff that feels good --> the horniness makes me feel very manly --> what else feels manly? Hitting the gym harder than everyone else feels manly. Being productive, getting things done feels manly. I'm using the energy to cruise on life. What did I have to do today that I didn't complete yet? --> There are the 40 pages of biochem I still have to study through. --> let's get it done instantly.

If you do it right, this should enable you to work very focused on the task. The trick is to not follow the feeling in a way that you think of sexual scenes in your head. The feeling itself is not the problem, it just feels powerful. The problem is what that energy gets directed at. Sexual energy is just your driving force. Up until now you've always deflagrated it by shooting a load. You can train your brain to put that energy into any other task you like, it's just a little hard in the beginning. It takes some practice.
These thinking patterns need to become automatic if you want to go that route.

People who meditate regularly have it easier. They learn to recognize thoughts and feelings as thoughts and feelings that come and go. The meditation trains their ability to not give attention to their thoughts and feelings if they don't want to. They are still there, but they have no power, because the power is given to them by you focusing your attention on them. If you train to manage your attention, that breaks that chain.
Again, I really want to stress that: the feeling (urge) is not the problem, but if you then give your attention to sexual thoughts because if it. That last part is the problem. The urge can be there but your attention can be focused on calculus or whatever. It's something that most people have to train. DO NOT THINK ABOUT it. That's the best way. It feels inevitable, but it's not. I used to relapse so much because feeling --> thought --> feeling just increased each others exponentially. If you stay with the feeling but have your attention on the task at hand, then you will be extremely productive. Don't try to push the sexual thoughts away though. If you try to fight the thoughts, they become stronger, because fighting them means focusing your attention on them, which they live on. Let the sexual thoughts be there if they come, but shift the attention away from them. This way they will incur.

If you can't focus on the task at hand, you're likely in that "horny mode" that makes us rawdog the chubby bitch we just picked up from the gutter. You can't think straight, so you need to first calm down again and get out of that zone. So if nothing else helps, as I'm sure it's been advised in this thread multiple times already - take a super cold shower, go for a walk, stretch, go to the gym, go out jogging, go out and have a coffee, meditate if you can manage to do that (very hard in this situation without practice)... etc. etc. Just do things that distract you and clear your mind, then see if you can focus on your work again.
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(03-16-2016 12:06 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  Day 15 In 9 Hours!!!
While I don't want to jinx this I'm sure I got this indefinitely!!

Trust me, you haven't.
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Congratulations on your 15 days, but it will be a long and hard road to go and I'm not saying this to spoil your mood or discourage you, I'm saying it to save you the disappointment and avoid you getting discouraged once you relapsed.
If you feel like you're over it, you let your guard down and before you know it you'll sit in front of 28 tabs of P with your pants down and are hastily trying to find something in your vicinity that you can use to clean the keyboard. You'll feel like shit and ask yourself "where did everything go so wrong?"
It all went wrong when you had that thought which I quoted above. Stay vigilant and focus on other things than counting your days. Mark the day you started and then forget about the whole PMO thing until the thoughts come up naturally. Then, be aware that many thousands of guys have relapsed after over 100 days and that you have not got it and you need to be careful what you look at and what you think about. Nofap can give you mental highs that make you see the whole thing from a very different point of view. When you feel great and invincible, just like you seem to do now, you're pretty good set for life in general, but you're at your weakest point in terms of potentially relapsing. The addictive past doesn't seem as dark anymore as it felt back then and "once every X days" won't seem like a problem.
Be aware of that.

Good luck.
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(03-14-2016 09:42 AM)hwuzhere Wrote:  I broke.

2 long days stuck getting work done did me in. I was just about to head into town later today too and I would have revived my motivation to continue if I had. Fuck I feel like shit and I didn't even get a good wank in before I started feeling like shit.

Day 1

Let's go.

Doesn't matter, you can do it again. Don't beat yourself up over it, that will only eat away at your motivation.
But learn from this. Think about the bolded part. That is actually very common. After a while of NoFap, if you do it again, the first fap often times doesn't even feel all that great. You had imagined it would, that's why you gave in and did it again, but then while doing it you realized it actually doesn't feel as great as anticipated. Now you have a decision to make. Most people at this point (like I used to and like you apparently did), think to themselves "ah, fuck it, I'm already over the point of no return anyways". And that's the final shittest you didn't pass, so you spoiled it. When you realize that it actually doesn't feel that great, you can still stop right then and there and use that experience to put future urges into perspective. You can also use that moment to further train and strengthen your willpower. Being this close to the edge but managing to still turn around before falling into the abyss will very much strengthen your ability to resist following urges. You just have to use extra effort to get out of the horny zone.
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A relapse doesn't kill you. Two days later you're back on track and will feel 'the fog' getting away. This is what I experience. Day 25 here.

Whenever I'm at home/bored and feel aroused/horny/got a boner, I do some kegels. To me, this is also some kind of meditation.
Just stand there, kegel and concentrate on your body. Imo it feels great.
And it has lots of positive side-effects, after some training, you can even get a 'dry orgasm'.

Anybody interested in my no fap/kegel-training? Just send me a pn
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(03-19-2016 06:50 AM)CameraXL Wrote:  positive side-effects, after some training, you can even get a 'dry orgasm'.

Anybody interested in my no fap/kegel-training? Just send me a pn

Sounds interesting. The done thing on RVF is to post a datasheet so that everyone casually browsing can benefit.

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Good idea. I'll prepare sth.
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I went on a complete relapse and binged on porn. I realized I'm using porn and masturbation to escape stressful situations and bad feelings, but the reality is it doesn't help me feel better. I found the two experiences do not help solve each other. While masturbation is good for relieving some sexual tension, I can only enjoy it to the fullest extent when I'm doing it for pleasure and not just to relieve stress. However, it is by no means a good outlet for me to examine myself and deal with my current mental and emotional state.

While I work on developing my healthy habits, I also need to focus on finding better ways to handle my stress and the daily pressures of life. I think when I've found proper outlets for my stress, porn will be much less tempting to me.
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Around two weeks here now with a new round of nofap. This is typically when a relapse would have occurred in the past.

Basically every semi-fit chick I see I want to bang the shit out of now; like raw animal instinct kind of intensity. Saw a PICTURE in another thread of a thick Latina in a bikini that on its own got me a bit twitchy.

Good sign though: means that I'm responding to less aggressive stuff (like porn videos) very quickly and my brain is re-wiring quicker than last time. When I did this last time in the fall, it took a bit longer (I think 4 weeks) for non-porn pictures to really do anything.

Overall, getting pretty edgy at times when exposed to any kind of semi-fit female stimuli; especially in-person stimuli but will probably hit the flatline phase soon. Big thing is to avoid the porn: I really believe that is the main shit that fucks guys up; especially guys like myself in their late 20s/early 30s who grew up on unlimited video porn access and could indulge looking at a 100+ women getting fuck in one evening for years on end while having mega wank-a-thons all the time. I'm absolutely convinced that shit is bad for a man's libido and performance in the bedroom in the long-run. I think a quick non-porn wank the night before a first time bang is the only time where jerking it really makes sense; to avoid going into a bang with a loaded gun and busting in 2 minutes. But I'm going to avoid even that for the next few months to speed this entire process up.

Last round of nofap I went 45 days or so without porn and it definitely led to a reset back to my teenage years in what would get things going (pictures of women still in clothes) and that was while still banging a main plate.

But has anyone done nofap in the past while banging a chick, relapsed and gone hardcore in a future nofap cycle? (Like no banging chicks during a nofap cycle).

I don't know if their are any major benefits to avoiding banging chicks during a nofap cycle since the whole goal of nofap is get off properly with women/associate real women with sex and therefore, one should not be avoiding associating sexual release with actually fucking a chick. If anybody has any thoughts, I'd like to hear it though.
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Back on it, no porn 39 days. Funnily it hasn't been that hard. Not noticing any major changes though.
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(03-23-2016 11:25 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  But has anyone done nofap in the past while banging a chick, relapsed and gone hardcore in a future nofap cycle? (Like no banging chicks during a nofap cycle).

I don't know if their are any major benefits to avoiding banging chicks during a nofap cycle since the whole goal of nofap is get off properly with women/associate real women with sex and therefore, one should not be avoiding associating sexual release with actually fucking a chick. If anybody has any thoughts, I'd like to hear it though.

This actually happened to me when I first got into no PMO. I started the whole no fap thing because I was having some libido problems with my girlfriend at the time. For the life of me I couldn't understand why I was struggling to get aroused with her, even though she was very attractive. Found out about no porn, gave it a shot, and within a month I was seeing major improvements.

After awhile we broke up and I ended up relapsing pretty hard back into porn/fapping. Eventually I got back on the wagon, but decided to go full monk mode because at that time my porn habits had gotten worse than ever before. I didn't look at porn or fap for several months, nor did I pursue sex during that time. What I noticed was that my libido tanked big time, and I ended up in what seemed to be a permanent flatline.

Admittedly, it may have eventually bounced back, although after months of flatlining and feeling like shit I ended up caving and started fapping and looking at porn again. That seemed to bring my libido back, but I was right back where I started with the porn issues.

Thus, my conclusion is the same as yours. I think that the best course of action is to eliminate porn entirely, but don't deprive yourself of sex (or even the occasional wank if you really feel the need). Porn is the real issue here, not sex. In fact, I believe that a prolonged abstinence from any sexual activity can actually kill a man's sex drive. That's how it felt for me anyway, and I've read some accounts from other guys who have experienced the same.
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@Requiem: I agree with facing your thoughts instead of getting into struggle or using unhealthy coping strategies. I started reading a book called 'get out of your mind and into your life' which explains in more detail what you are saying.

Right now I'm on my 7th day of nofap and I'm not using unhealthy coping strategies such as eating too much junk food or binge watching TV shows. I don't feel like I'm struggling too much. Just one week of practising thought acceptance made me save a ton of energy for other useful habits.

The only drawback is that my balls are hanging low as fuck. I can feel them bouncing on my legs as I'm walking and the only time I get a little relief is when I do cold shower.
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Day 87, only possible fu**ing a main plate at least weekly, hitting the gym and not getting drunk, it feels so bad when you realized the fap happened drunk or semi hangover.
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(03-25-2016 04:10 PM)Zona Wrote:  
(03-23-2016 11:25 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  But has anyone done nofap in the past while banging a chick, relapsed and gone hardcore in a future nofap cycle? (Like no banging chicks during a nofap cycle).

I don't know if their are any major benefits to avoiding banging chicks during a nofap cycle since the whole goal of nofap is get off properly with women/associate real women with sex and therefore, one should not be avoiding associating sexual release with actually fucking a chick. If anybody has any thoughts, I'd like to hear it though.

This actually happened to me when I first got into no PMO. I started the whole no fap thing because I was having some libido problems with my girlfriend at the time. For the life of me I couldn't understand why I was struggling to get aroused with her, even though she was very attractive. Found out about no porn, gave it a shot, and within a month I was seeing major improvements.

After awhile we broke up and I ended up relapsing pretty hard back into porn/fapping. Eventually I got back on the wagon, but decided to go full monk mode because at that time my porn habits had gotten worse than ever before. I didn't look at porn or fap for several months, nor did I pursue sex during that time. What I noticed was that my libido tanked big time, and I ended up in what seemed to be a permanent flatline.

Admittedly, it may have eventually bounced back, although after months of flatlining and feeling like shit I ended up caving and started fapping and looking at porn again. That seemed to bring my libido back, but I was right back where I started with the porn issues.

Thus, my conclusion is the same as yours. I think that the best course of action is to eliminate porn entirely, but don't deprive yourself of sex (or even the occasional wank if you really feel the need). Porn is the real issue here, not sex. In fact, I believe that a prolonged abstinence from any sexual activity can actually kill a man's sex drive. That's how it felt for me anyway, and I've read some accounts from other guys who have experienced the same.

I did some reading up on the issue and the consensus that seemed to make the most sense to me was to go hardcore for around 90 days if possible to really help reset things and then stick to sex and the odd wank but absolutely avoid associating sexual release with porn forever.

I also did read about some cases regarding some guys being in longstanding flatlines for up to 1-2 years before they were "cured" but I'm not buying that porn/fapping was the main cause of their issues. Maybe a contributing factor but I imagine guys who claim that really have other issues not being addressed (low t, lack of options, depression, ugly fuckbuddies/gfs, no confidence, etc).
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(03-25-2016 04:10 PM)Zona Wrote:  
(03-23-2016 11:25 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  But has anyone done nofap in the past while banging a chick, relapsed and gone hardcore in a future nofap cycle? (Like no banging chicks during a nofap cycle).

I don't know if their are any major benefits to avoiding banging chicks during a nofap cycle since the whole goal of nofap is get off properly with women/associate real women with sex and therefore, one should not be avoiding associating sexual release with actually fucking a chick. If anybody has any thoughts, I'd like to hear it though.

This actually happened to me when I first got into no PMO. I started the whole no fap thing because I was having some libido problems with my girlfriend at the time. For the life of me I couldn't understand why I was struggling to get aroused with her, even though she was very attractive. Found out about no porn, gave it a shot, and within a month I was seeing major improvements.

After awhile we broke up and I ended up relapsing pretty hard back into porn/fapping. Eventually I got back on the wagon, but decided to go full monk mode because at that time my porn habits had gotten worse than ever before. I didn't look at porn or fap for several months, nor did I pursue sex during that time. What I noticed was that my libido tanked big time, and I ended up in what seemed to be a permanent flatline.

Admittedly, it may have eventually bounced back, although after months of flatlining and feeling like shit I ended up caving and started fapping and looking at porn again. That seemed to bring my libido back, but I was right back where I started with the porn issues.

Thus, my conclusion is the same as yours. I think that the best course of action is to eliminate porn entirely, but don't deprive yourself of sex (or even the occasional wank if you really feel the need). Porn is the real issue here, not sex. In fact, I believe that a prolonged abstinence from any sexual activity can actually kill a man's sex drive. That's how it felt for me anyway, and I've read some accounts from other guys who have experienced the same.

Same here. Tried monk mode for a while: no sex drive, overall low energy, low productivity etc.
And as a bonus started blowing huge loads in my sleep after a few weeks (didn’t think this would happen so soon aged 30+).
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I've moved out for the first time and rarely fapped due to a drive to get laid and try to do something with this energy, it didn't help that my roommate was a stripper. I relapsed because I made a move on my roommate and she said she'll take action if I don't move out ..... and so Im back at my parents home and I had this one week of no fap and the drive was so strong being in environment were I had to take care of myself to one of that everything is taken care for me . I hate it but im to broke to try to move out again and I feel like I can't harness this drive when I see my family everyday.

Has anyone successfully did no fap successfully but still lived with parents? I feel like I have a lower drive and a little less confidence since I don't have my own place.

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RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious
(03-28-2016 12:23 PM)Ibagemyoutagem Wrote:  I've moved out for the first time and rarely fapped due to a drive to get laid and try to do something with this energy, it didn't help that my roommate was a stripper. I relapsed because I made a move on my roommate and she said she'll take action if I don't move out ..... and so Im back at my parents home and I had this one week of no fap and the drive was so strong being in environment were I had to take care of myself to one of that everything is taken care for me . I hate it but im to broke to try to move out again and I feel like I can't harness this drive when I see my family everyday.

Has anyone successfully did no fap successfully but still lived with parents? I feel like I have a lower drive and a little less confidence since I don't have my own place.

Stripper roommate? That must've made for some stories, haha.

I'm currently in the same situation- living with the family to save $ while I get my bussiness up and running. Yes, it sucks, espcially if you're in the 'burbs and your parents aren't exactly the type that would be receptive to you brining different girls over all the time.

I would suggest you make giving up porn and masturbation part of a larger lifestyle change. I'm currently doing 30 Days of Discipline by Victor Pride, which includes no fap/porn as part of the program.

I think it's important to REPLACE fapping and porn with new habits, otherwise there is a void in your life and as we know, nature abhors a vaccum.

With 30DOP, you're not just giving up porn and jerking off, you're actively working toward or goal or some project at the same time. I've done 30DOP and no fap seperately but the difference was that after 30 days or a few months I always relapsed. So far I'm 17 days in and going strong.

Also consider reading Napoleon Hill's Think and Grow Rich, specifically the chapter on sex transmuation. Think of your loads like life-force or "manna" if your into that D&D stuff. If you're constantly draining your balls, you're wasting your life force (having sex by contrast, has the opposite effect- up to a certain point). Direct that energy toward a goal (like moving back to an enviroment where sexual options are plentiful).

Hope this helps.

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(03-28-2016 12:39 PM)NovaVirtu Wrote:  
(03-28-2016 12:23 PM)Ibagemyoutagem Wrote:  I've moved out for the first time and rarely fapped due to a drive to get laid and try to do something with this energy, it didn't help that my roommate was a stripper. I relapsed because I made a move on my roommate and she said she'll take action if I don't move out ..... and so Im back at my parents home and I had this one week of no fap and the drive was so strong being in environment were I had to take care of myself to one of that everything is taken care for me . I hate it but im to broke to try to move out again and I feel like I can't harness this drive when I see my family everyday.

Has anyone successfully did no fap successfully but still lived with parents? I feel like I have a lower drive and a little less confidence since I don't have my own place.

Stripper roommate? That must've made for some stories, haha.

I'm currently in the same situation- living with the family to save $ while I get my bussiness up and running. Yes, it sucks, espcially if you're in the 'burbs and your parents aren't exactly the type that would be receptive to you brining different girls over all the time.

I would suggest you make giving up porn and masturbation part of a larger lifestyle change. I'm currently doing 30 Days of Discipline by Victor Pride, which includes no fap/porn as part of the program.

I think it's important to REPLACE fapping and porn with new habits, otherwise there is a void in your life and as we know, nature abhors a vaccum.

With 30DOP, you're not just giving up porn and jerking off, you're actively working toward or goal or some project at the same time. I've done 30DOP and no fap seperately but the difference was that after 30 days or a few months I always relapsed. So far I'm 17 days in and going strong.

Also consider reading Napoleon Hill's Think and Grow Rich, specifically the chapter on sex transmuation. Think of your loads like life-force or "manna" if your into that D&D stuff. If you're constantly draining your balls, you're wasting your life force (having sex by contrast, has the opposite effect- up to a certain point). Direct that energy toward a goal (like moving back to an enviroment where sexual options are plentiful).

Hope this helps.

I did read Napoleon hill which is precisely why I stopped fapping instantly as soon as I moved out because I always used that energy to approach women and I was always doing something because taking care of myself was a full time job.

When I come home I feel like I have no option to bring girls home, I don't feel the same confidence that comes with living alone.

I understand that focus on goals but I feel like my drive both from my sexual flirty roommate and no fap caused me to do alot on my own that I now don't feel other wise to do .

Right now I'm looking for a job just to live, I have to move out again, I have to feel that hunger again .

So all the while my goals

1. Find a solid fun job just to pay bills
2. Find a decent single room apartment (never roommates ever again)

Any job suggestions?

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God says, "So that you will like them."
Adam says to God, "God, why did you make women so warm and cuddly?"
God says, "So that you will like them."
Adam says to God, "But, God, why did you make them so stupid?"
God says, "So that they will like you"
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RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious
I have just ended my 30 days NoFap as I am back to work and can no longer have 1 new girl a day as I did in Manila. 7 days without sex, had me literally in pain. Its kind of pain in your balls which spreads to you legs.
Anyways I am still on day 51 NoPorn.
No porn does change things a lot, and I think it is more important then no fap. The arousal is so much stronger, when you don't watch porn. Sex is just more vivid.
Funny thing happened. I was joking with one Filipina about her sending me a picture of her wet pussy, and wanted to actually send her a picture of a wet kitten.

   

When I googled wet pussy (my mistake) it gave out a squirting girl photos. The reaction I had was crazy, like if I was struck by electricity. Visual stimulation is so much stronger comparing to how dull it was when I was watching porn on a daily basis.
I did find a picture of a wet kitten and keep using it as a funny thing to send girls and do some playful dirty talk without seeming like a pervert.
If a girl I meet online has a single picture of a cat or she is with cat. I definitely say something like, I like your pussy, and then act as if I did not mean it. It gets the conversation in the right direction.

Anyway I think I got distracted. Long story short. Just quit porn. That's the most important part. Fap not more often then once a week (using your imagination or photos that were sent to you), it will still keep you motivated and sexually active.
Another benefit from this is that it encourages you to make photos of girls. I did not do this before but now after sex I am trying to make a pic. Sometimes they agree and now I am building up a nice collection Smile
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I'm swamped with work and it's killing my ability to maintain nofap. I broke again and I'm having trouble starting it up again simply because I have so much pent up tension I can't break immediately even with working out.

If I had a FWB, I would be good, but it's getting hard with this kind of aggression. And it's not even because I want sexual release.

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(03-30-2016 03:24 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  I'm swamped with work and it's killing my ability to maintain nofap. I broke again and I'm having trouble starting it up again simply because I have so much pent up tension I can't break immediately even with working out.

If I had a FWB, I would be good, but it's getting hard with this kind of aggression. And it's not even because I want sexual release.

I feel you man. I've been having decent nofaps streaks but they always get broken when I have a fuckton of work. Nofap=no productivity for me.

Regardless, back on the nofap train
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Gents, why do you think NoFap = No Productivity.

Do you depend on sexual stimulus to drive you? Is sex your only motivation?

I ask a) to better understand and b) so you can push through it.

Why doesn't it motivate you to go get laid?
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