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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
30K is enough to stay in Thonglor and 2 bedroom in Ekamai though.
09-11-2016 10:48 AM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
I literally know the apartment Sandstorm is in. I know this because while gym hunting in BKK I went to the exactly same gym in the older building he mentions.

The gym is decent though, and if I wasn't staying at Ekkamai at the time, was a pretty good choice.

Will second nomadbrah though, you can get the same in Thonglor for 30K, although it probably might not be right next to the BTS.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
(09-11-2016 12:11 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  I'm paying 30K in Ari (which most Thais consider is sooooo far!)

It isn't - it's 5 stops to Siam. In any other city in the world that would be considered totally central.

It's more than I wanted to pay - I'd have rather paid 15-20K given that I'm not even working here, and also my contract is for 1 year which is a pain in the ass coz with 2 months deposit, that's 60K ready to be lost if I need to leave before that time.

If you are happy and like where you live and can afford the price, why not. I would never live in a super small box style studio apt that are common here. That said, there are too many Thais earning 15K or less per month, and if your willing to put in the time searching, can definitely find places that middle income Thai can afford. I used to live in Ari, didn't need to be next to the BTS (motorbike and car) and paid 7k baht for a decent enough apt with a kitchen in an older building.

Also don't pay asking price for condos and try not to use an agent - Thai owners usually have a bottom line price they will accept, so the agent's commision gets tacked on to that. I once had an agent show me a 37M condo on the top floor listed at 14K and ended up renting the same size unit on the third floor for 7.5K direct from the owner. Other than the time I was visiting for 1 month and had a girl I was banging find me an apt for 12K, I have never paid more than 8K rent living in Thailand.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
Is it against forum rules to offer something for sale here to other forum members? (thing, not a service)

Suitable for Bangkok folk only

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(09-12-2016 02:05 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  Is it against forum rules to offer something for sale here to other forum members? (thing, not a service)

Suitable for Bangkok folk only

If it is, and certainly it is, something totally legal, no problem I'm sure.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
(09-12-2016 03:11 AM)Going strong Wrote:  
(09-12-2016 02:05 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  Is it against forum rules to offer something for sale here to other forum members? (thing, not a service)

Suitable for Bangkok folk only

If it is, and certainly it is, something totally legal, no problem I'm sure.

Yes 100% legal!

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09-12-2016 05:27 AM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
(09-11-2016 11:07 PM)Kamaki4 Wrote:  If you are happy and like where you live and can afford the price, why not. I would never live in a super small box style studio apt that are common here. That said, there are too many Thais earning 15K or less per month, and if your willing to put in the time searching, can definitely find places that middle income Thai can afford. I used to live in Ari, didn't need to be next to the BTS (motorbike and car) and paid 7k baht for a decent enough apt with a kitchen in an older building.

Also don't pay asking price for condos and try not to use an agent - Thai owners usually have a bottom line price they will accept, so the agent's commision gets tacked on to that. I once had an agent show me a 37M condo on the top floor listed at 14K and ended up renting the same size unit on the third floor for 7.5K direct from the owner. Other than the time I was visiting for 1 month and had a girl I was banging find me an apt for 12K, I have never paid more than 8K rent living in Thailand.

This is awesome advice.

How much were deposits, and how long was the rental period?

IME, it's harder to get short-term places (3-6 months) direct with "local prices".

However. If the deposit isn't too high. It may make sense to just go direct with landlord / get a girl to arrange it, and forfeit the deposit, given how big a discount you're able to get with this method.

I've heard that suggested for eastern europe.

Wonder if it's the way to go in SEA.
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(09-12-2016 05:54 PM)RichieP Wrote:  
(09-11-2016 11:07 PM)Kamaki4 Wrote:  

This is awesome advice.

How much were deposits, and how long was the rental period?

IME, it's harder to get short-term places (3-6 months) direct with "local prices".

However. If the deposit isn't too high. It may make sense to just go direct with landlord / get a girl to arrange it, and forfeit the deposit, given how big a discount you're able to get with this method.

I've heard that suggested for eastern europe.

Wonder if it's the way to go in SEA.

That works here as well and exactly what I did for the condo that I mentioned earlier. The Condo owner wanted 8.5K with 2 months deposit and a 6 month contract. I came back at her with 7.5K and 1 month deposit. She said ok but only on a 1 year contract. I ended up staying longer than 1 year, but was willing to forego the deposit because at month 8, I'm ahead. Most places ask for a 1 or 2 month deposit, but it seems like the majority want 2.

For guys that are looking to stay 1 or 2 months I would go with apartments, especially new ones that are usually looking for revenue because construction has gone over budget.

To get a long term rate, apartments usually ask for a minimum 3 months, sometimes 6, but in reality not always the case. I just helped a guy rent an apt in CM at the 6 month rate with no contract because it was built a few months ago and they are having trouble filling it. This building is hidden from main roads and you would need to know the specific area to find it. Driving down small sois in hidden areas with my scooter is another tactic I use to find good value apts.

That said many apartments and condo owners won't budge on their contract term, but that's ok because BK, CM, Phuket etc are overdevolped anyway and there is a lot of vacancy, especially at this time of year so with some patience and negotiation you can find a place with no term/short term contract at a reasonable price.
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Anyone in BKK want to grab a drink tonight? I have Viber and Line, drop me a PM.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
So, apparently the Army has started enforcing a 2:30 closing time at clubs. I've also heard / read that they've been raiding clubs that are open after legal closing time and drug testing patrons.

Couple of questions for those more experienced than I:

1. Do they e re raid the higher end clubs (Levels, Oscars, Mixx, etc)?
2. Are the drug tests simply an effort to extract a bribe, or is the Army serious (as opposed to the police)?
3. Can anyone recommend high end nightclubs that are open after hours?
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
(09-23-2016 03:25 AM)Lance Blastoff Wrote:  So, apparently the Army has started enforcing a 2:30 closing time at clubs. I've also heard / read that they've been raiding clubs that are open after legal closing time and drug testing patrons.

Couple of questions for those more experienced than I:

1. Do they e re raid the higher end clubs (Levels, Oscars, Mixx, etc)?
2. Are the drug tests simply an effort to extract a bribe, or is the Army serious (as opposed to the police)?
3. Can anyone recommend high end nightclubs that are open after hours?

Met up with fellow RVFer

We started in RCA, never seen it so quiet there on a Thursday night. Route 66 where girls are usually relatively difficult, but the level of bitch shields even there put me in a total state of shock.

Then we went to Mixx around 1:30a, they were closing at 2am but it was 100% working girls anyways, then went to Sugar they said they were closing around 2:30am but didn't let us in.

It seems OP is correct in that there ain't too many places to go after 2am.

After 3 days in BKK, I would say the party (in every sense of the word) has been getting shut down for a while but its going into overdrive now. I'm literally in total shock how much has changed in just 10 short months.

Last year I would match every single girl on tinder, now I swipe for 10 minutes before getting a match. Girls seem way more ambivalent about farangs now, much bitchier than just 2 years ago. When I message girls they are much less enthusiastic to respond and meet up.

I mean its still not hard to get laid here, pulled some girl 2 nights ago, I took out all my recent frustration from BKK on her mouth, poor thing lol. BKK is ok but its not the wild place it used to be for sure. Even BKK from 3 years ago is totally different then BKK of today.

I saw someone on the forum recommend in 2012 to just go around passing out pieces of paper with your whatsapp to girls in shopping malls, if you tried that now eveyrone would just laugh at you. The city is starting to feel more like Hong Kong or Singapore.

Nightlife is way more tame now.

Tourism is up like 35% 2016 over 2015, and 2015 tourism is up 30% over 2014 so you guys do the math, don't believe me check the numbers. The city is getting wealthier too. I'm seeing the best looking girls only with very good looking farangs, and i've seen really busted chicks with decent farangs too, its not a good sign at all.

I'm paying $50 /night for the exact same airbnb I paid $30/night for just 10 months ago. Prices are shooting up like a rocket, especially for rent. The entire Nana area is getting completely razed more or less.

I think Jakarta is the new BKK guys, will checkout Phillipines as well for the first time and see how that goes.

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(09-23-2016 05:16 AM)frankiecred Wrote:  I'm paying $50 /night for the exact same airbnb I paid $30/night for just 10 months ago. Prices are shooting up like a rocket, especially for rent. The entire Nana area is getting completely razed more or less.

If you're talking about the nightlife in the well trodden spots, then yeah it's taken a hit lately. But I wouldn't say prices are shooting up like a rocket here.

(09-23-2016 05:16 AM)frankiecred Wrote:  I think Jakarta is the new BKK guys, will checkout Phillipines as well for the first time and see how that goes.

Whoa slow down there, hoss. I've visited all three places, including BKK, Manila, and Jakarta -- and if you look at the flag next to my name, you can easily guess where I ended up. And, aside from a bit of culture shock, I'm fucking loving it here.

You seem to be broad-brushing the entire metropolis of Bangkok based on what you've seen in Nana. There's still plenty of good times to be had in BKK apart from the typical well-known and well-trodden tourist traps like Nana.

And Jakarta? Not so much. If you go there for the nightlife, you're going to be sorely disappointed. It's simply not a nightlife-centric city and what you will find are Indo-Chinese groups trying to one-up each other with expensive bottle service while aggressively mate guarding their girls.

Manila's nightlife doesn't hold a candle to any other city in SEA either. Even with the raids and earlier closing times, BKK is still the king of nightlife in SEA. In Manila, there is Duterte's ordinance in action with an early midnight closing time (or was it 1 am? can't recall).
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If BKK is faranged out then I might as well apply for euthanasia. No point in being alive anymore.
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Can you guys stop please? You're making me depressed for my visit in December.

Whether we like to admit it or not, the increasing exposure of this forum is partly to blame for bitch shields in Bangkok rising at a rapid pace. I was there in 2014 and 2015 and noticed a dramatic difference then so dreading what this year has in store.

Is Khaosan Road still pumping with farang hunters and Tourist girls?
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Frankiecred,

Finally, someone else who doesn't have his head buried in the sand. Nice post, although depressing. The exact same thing is happening in the Philippines as you've described. I've been here for a year straight. The amount of change in this time is shocking. Granted I'm still getting girls, but I'm probably in the top 1% of foreigners in regards to status/money, and even so there has been a noticeable decline in their attitude. Last year, logging onto any of the dating sites resulted in a flood of messages, Tinder tons of matches. Now, like 10% of what it was, and the girls that do message have this kind of "So what?" vibe. It's really amazing how fast things are changing. Guessing SEA is soon on its way to becoming another Hong Kong. Sad
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(09-23-2016 06:31 PM)erikak Wrote:  Frankiecred,

Finally, someone else who doesn't have his head buried in the sand. Nice post, although depressing. The exact same thing is happening in the Philippines as you've described. I've been here for a year straight. The amount of change in this time is shocking. Granted I'm still getting girls, but I'm probably in the top 1% of foreigners in regards to status/money, and even so there has been a noticeable decline in their attitude. Last year, logging onto any of the dating sites resulted in a flood of messages, Tinder tons of matches. Now, like 10% of what it was, and the girls that do message have this kind of "So what?" vibe. It's really amazing how fast things are changing. Guessing SEA is soon on its way to becoming another Hong Kong. Sad

Undervalued commodities can only stay that way for so long... Guess a longshot would be the West finally coming back around and casting off the yoke of feminazi nonsense... hoping vasalgel and VR porn will knock some sense into women in general, but who knows.
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Guys, it's terrible here in Bangkok. You may as well stay home. White girls are more intellectual anyways. Tongue
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(09-23-2016 06:07 PM)Adrenaline Wrote:  Can you guys stop please? You're making me depressed for my visit in December.
Is Khaosan Road still pumping with farang hunters and Tourist girls?

Yeah of course Khasan Road is pumping, have not been since last year though. But I went out again last night, I thought maybe on the weekend they would ease the curfew for the weekends, there was NOWHERE to go after 2am, i mean nowhere.

(09-23-2016 06:07 PM)Adrenaline Wrote:  Can you guys stop please? You're making me depressed for my visit in December.

Whether we like to admit it or not, the increasing exposure of this forum is partly to blame for bitch shields in Bangkok rising at a rapid pace. I was there in 2014 and 2015 and noticed a dramatic difference then so dreading what this year has in store.

There are millions and millions more foreigners showing up to BKK every year, I highly doubt a few dozen extra RVF'ers would have even the slightest effect on the city. I'm pretty sure about 98% of guys at clubs at BKK haven't even heard of RVF. I think it really has more to do with a combination of 4 factors

1. Tinder / Dating Apps - It used to be that these shy Thai girls would have to just day dream about meeting a foreigner. Now they have access to tens of thousands of horny farangs on their Tinder, it sends their ego through the roof. Especially now that they are matching more due to more horny farangs showing up (see #3).

Dating apps also make girls want to go out less as well, and when they do go out it makes them less eager to go home with a guy. This is true everywhere, and applies to BKK as well.

2. Increased wealth - Thailand as a country is still pretty damn poor, but salaries here are going up, tourism is increasing, women here can increasingly take care of themselves with tons of office jobs available. Also more local wealthy guys to choose from. Add that to the stigma about dating foreigners and the bad reputation farangs have always had here, makes dating a westerner a lot less attractive.

3. Increasing flood of horny dudes. - Its true Tinder and before that Thai Freindly/Cupid have been around for a good few years now but there was just so many girls looking for a farang that the amount of foreign dick could never fully supply the millions of Thai girls looking for a farang, or so we thought. This would create a demand based market for girls where they would have to be aggressive. The equilibrium has now been reached in my opinion and has rapidly shifted the other direction as less Thai girls are looking for a foreign guys and more foreign guys are looking for a Thai girl.

4. Western attitudes - It used to be in SE asia that women are taught that they are the ones that are supposed to work hard to find a good man, but as the cities here become westernized they absorb that "fuck you, i'm the prize" type attitude that we've been trying to escape.

Combine these 4 together and its pretty clear BKK is not the easy poosy paradise it once was. For me it doesn't feel that different from going out at clubs back home anymore where i'm just talking to every single girl i'm attracted to getting rejected over and over again until I finally find one that sticks. Thats the game that works back home, and its pretty much become the game here in BKK too unless you want to be all blue pill about it. Maybe if you're very tall with blond hair and blue eyes or some of these features you still have a little bit of an edge here in Bangkok, but for the average guy its done.

Lots of local guys have been telling me they get laid like champs. I don't doubt that. If you stay here a year, learn Thai, and build a good social circle you can still date the hottest girls in the cities, even if you're pretty ugly, I do not doubt that. You can still get a ONS here pretty easy too, esp off the tinder machine. All i'm saying is I come here about once a year and every time I come I notice the difficulty level goes up about 25-30% compared to the previous year.

I've also realized the prices and city haven't changed THAT much @Cleanslate is right, its just the Nana area I'm at that has changed a lot. Maybe thats why I went into such a shock when I arrived, perhaps the rest of the city is more or less the same.

(Though I do disagree on the part about JKT only being indo-chinese 1 upping each other, I only saw that at one very specific club called "Domain" where I was told it would be like that, 90% of the clubs are not like that at all unless they are a "chinese" club. Its true JKT is not night life oriented but I kind of like the fact its quiet Sun - Wed, it lets me focus on work and setup dates during the week, but Thurs - Sat night is always a big party somewhere, respect ur opinion tho, but I fuckin loved JKT i had such a great time there.

@Cleanslate - Sad to hear the clubs in Manila are closing at 1am or even earlier, will check it out and see.

Also keep in mind Bangkok has a lot of other stuff going for it then just girls. Year round warm weather, the internet is fast AF here if you work online, there are cafes and coworking spaces in every corner. There are networking events with other cool entrepreneurs virtually every night. Great cheap flight connections if you want to take side trips. Its really not such a bad city to live in.

Now that the weekend has hit i'm also getting more matches on Tinder too. Maybe i've jumped the gun and things haven't gotten "that" much worse in BKK.

And increasingly if you have the money for it, there are incredibly good fancy restaurants too. Theres lots of good gyms here too. Its not such a bad city to live in and everyone tells me if I stayed here for a year and learned some of the language I would clean the fuck up. Everyone tells me that. I do believe them. I'm just saying for someone coming in with no social circle relying on online game and night game and even day game, its getting much much much much harder, to deny this is denying reality.

Since this is the "travel section of the game forum" i'm focusing on women, but I still think it will be many years until it truly becomes "hard" to get laid here. However, I do notice every year its getting tougher.

I still encourage people to come, its a really great world class city, even if its not the anything goes wild place it once was.

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Yea I agree stay away from Bkk! I'm in the top .0001% of farang here as I am fluent in Thai, ballin as hell, and ripped. I also check into many cool and trendy places in Bkk on Facebook so my status is also huge. And even I can only get Isaan 5's. It's like being back home in the winter! Awful. On the other hand I heard Lagos Nigeria is the new pussy paradise and it's extremely clean and cheap! I'd say everyone head there for 2017 and jump ship out of Bangkok.
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Last time I went to Thailand, in 2010, I was 15, and I remember getting mad attention by everyone due to me being 'luk kreung'. I chickened out with the girls tho because I wasn't used to all the attention.

Going to Bangkok in March. Time to correct the damage.
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Does anyone know the best way to withdraw money in Thailand? The current exchange rate is about 39 baht for 1 € but most ATMs offer me a rate of 36 or 37 baht which will cost me between 2,000 and 3,000 baht per month depending on how much I withdraw (plus 200 baht for every transaction).

Is there a way to transfer money from my European bank account to my Thai bank account without using an ATM? I just recently got an account with SCB but there is no money in it and I am pretty clueless when it comes to using it.
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(09-24-2016 08:42 AM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  Does anyone know the best way to withdraw money in Thailand? The current exchange rate is about 39 baht for 1 € but most ATMs offer me a rate of 36 or 37 baht which will cost me between 2,000 and 3,000 baht per month depending on how much I withdraw (plus 200 baht for every transaction).

Is there a way to transfer money from my European bank account to my Thai bank account without using an ATM? I just recently got an account with SCB but there is no money in it and I am pretty clueless when it comes to using it.



Have you tried citibank? They wave charges for many european banks.

This is not the least bit useful for Europeans but I have a bangkok bank account and usually transfer from the stateside (New York) account to the Thai account. No real fees there beyond basic exchange rate.

I'm not sure about the other banks but they seem less reliable when it comes to just about everything. The big bank heists, id thefts, and atm card cloning scams you hear about usually happen with all those other banks but i've never heard it happening with bangkok bank. Consider that.

Bangkok bank also has a solid presence in other parts in asia too which is very helpful if you need to route money beyond just daily expenditure.
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I truly doubt that nightlife will continue shutting down at 2.30am.

The army will occasionally go into epic enforcement mode with many of it's policies but the politics at play in Thailand.. mean that if they step on two many toes the Army will find themselves in a revolt.

The police also make a damn killing from nightlife, so once the responsibility is back in their hands, the status quo will carry on.

I'll be surprised if this time in a month the same thing is occurring.

And is Thailand "farang'd out?" I've felt maybe it is, but it isn't really. The name of the game is switching things up and finding the party, and finding where being foreign is still a hot commodity. And there is many places. Much nightlife to be found around the universities, Khao San Rd is still a damn gold mine because all of the foreigners are truely dumb as shit, not too mention dressed like shit. Talk to Thai people, show some knowledge about Thailand and boom you're in. Applies especially if you live here. Thai people go to Khao San Rd to look at stinky ass backpackers like it's a weird reality TV show, for many a well dressed and well spoken foreigner is like a fantasy.

Route 66 is dead though. That's for sure. Fucked out by hordes of white dudes and the epic thirst of East Asian rejects.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
To me, Thailand is faranged out, meaning there's not exotic factor anymore, but that doesn't mean the girls are not still better than back home. Bangkok has become so ridicously easy to navigate and stay in that Suk 11 seems like it has collected the douchebag, fistpump, tribal tatoo brigade from a dozen countries around the world. People who'd have gone to Bulgaria or Ibiza at most in the past.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
Wow what happened to route?
It seemed busy only few months ago at the beginning of this year.
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