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(04-23-2017 11:52 PM)Luvianka Wrote:  'Reality' is getting weird by the minute. Macron is a globalist agent disguised as a Gaullist. However, it happens that he's a 'kept boy' handled by his 25 years older wife. Just figure out! I wonder what kind of material his mama-wife has on him to keep him on line, both domestically and politically.

Gay4pay cuck getting elected president in France would sting double strong.

Well - at least the French can enjoy their collective suicide, Islamic terror and continuous destruction. Macron already told them so like the Muslim London mayor - get used to Islam killing you. We are not doing jack shit against it, we will invite more of them, so that you die faster.
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(04-23-2017 05:53 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 05:20 PM)Libertas Wrote:  It's really amazing that in the face of constant terror attacks, riots, the jungle camps, etc. - in a word - invasion, that they still won't act. They would rather destroy their country than be called racist.

As hard as it is for me to type these words, I think that we need to finally put to rest the idea that "just one more Islamic terrorist attack" or "just one more migrant rape" is going to be the tipping point that will change everything in our favour. Of all the countries in Europe that had reason to do so, France is the one that should have said "Enough." Clearly, the normalization of Islamic terrorist attacks, migrant rapes, and ultimate national suicide is preferable to a majority of the citizens of France than the prospect of being called - gasp! - a "racist", or even worse - a nationalist.

(04-23-2017 05:54 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  How can these people vote for a "man"(?) that has quite literally told them they will have to get used to terrorism?
I cannot respect people that vote for their extermination.

(04-23-2017 06:05 PM)Libertas Wrote:  We also have to admit that the character of the American people is different from Europe as well.

I am not surprised in the least.

This is how deep the indoctrination runs here in Europe. Don't forget that the prime television channels in Europe have always been government controlled and that we've had tightly controlled common core education since forever.

It's not even a matter of being called "racist". That word is losing his meaning over here as well.

Rather, it's the fear of being called dumb.
If you don't understand that:
multiculturalism is better,
diversity is our strength,
we need immigrants to do the jobs the locals won't do,
we need immigrants to pay for our retirement,
islam is a peaceful religion,
we cannot avoid muslim terrorist attacks,
then you are simply too stupid (and irrelevant and unimportant to society).

That is the biggest fear of the European: being called dumb or stupid and the loss of social status that accompanies this stigma.
Because he still sees himself as the pinnacle of intelligence and enlightenment in the world.
Many over here are still chuckling about "how dumb Trump is" and "how dumb the Americans are for electing him".
The joke is on us, though.

This hubris will be the ultimate downfall of Europe.
There will be no tipping point.
It doesn't matter how many people are raped and killed by muslims. As long as academics, politicians and media keep telling the European that he is dumb if he votes far-right, a majority will never do so.
Maybe Michel Houellebecq predicted France's (and Western Europe's) future best of all.
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Just like in the US, they did a massive exit poll on the voter demographics. A few take-aways:

- Undecideds went for Macron, while Le Pen clearly won among those who decided their votes several months ago. This means that the media strategy of labeling Macron as "centrist" or even "fresh" worked. 60% of those who described themselves as centrists went for Macron. Even those who described themselves as leaning right went more for Macron than for Le Pen.

- To my unfortunate surprise, 2012 Sarkozy voters voted just as much for left wing candidates in the first round as they went for right wing or far right candidates. 59% went for Fillon, 21% for left wing candidates, and 19% for right wing candidates.

Granted, in the second round many of those 59% will go to Le Pen, but I expected more of Sarkozy's voters to go to Le Pen, given the consistent betrayal of cuckservative parties there and in the rest of the western world. I think this can be explained by the fact that Fillon was slightly more anti-establishment and right wing than the other 2 centre-right primary contenders - Sarkozy and Juppé which made conservatives more inclined to vote for him rather than Le Pen. The latter being socially unacceptable also makes a huge difference among these voters.

2012 Melenchon voters also went more for Macron than Le Pen, that's bad. We'll see what they do in the second round, it's a bit unpredictable. The students who voted for Melenchon in the first round will probably go to Macron in the second round while his actual working class voters will go to Le Pen.

- Samseau mentioned a while ago that he only sees extremes among millenials, and few moderates. The same seems to be true in France, the majority of 18-24 year olds went either for Melenchon or Le Pen. This age group had a decent turnout of 71% so it's representative of reality. This age group had a very low turnout in the Brexit referendum, for example.

The oldest generation (+70 years old) went very heavily for Fillon with 45%. Le Pen got barely 10% with this age group.

- Just like in the US, and most of the western world, being "well educated" and having high IQ doesn't mean you make the right political choices.

The most educated went 30% for Macron, 24% for Fillon, 20% for Melenchon and barely 9% for Le Pen.

Naturally, the same is true for the highest earning individuals, Macron even won over Fillon with that demographic. Le Pen does decent or well among the middle class though, and she won the working decisively.

- Men obviously voted more right wing, but there is not big gap like you see in the US. The same seems to be holding true in the UK where men and women supported Brexit equally.

Men: 24% Le Pen, 23% Macron, 21% Melenchon, 18% Fillon, 5% Dupont-Aignan, 4% Hamon

Women: 25% Macron, 21% Fillon, 20% Le Pen, 17% Melenchon, 8% Hamon, 5% Dupont-Aignan

The biggest difference is that men are more likely to vote for the "extreme" candidates, while women go for the mainstream candidates on either side of the aisle. This was also the case in the UK 2015 general election, men and women were in total amounts almost equally right wing but the men were more likely to vote for UKIP.

Full survey here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_pre...Electorate
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The media even managed to call Macron the "outsider" and independent candidate.

I agree that the French probably won't tip on their own.

But the globalists have no desire for Europe to become Muslim (including Russia since their demographics are equally bad) and then as the next step start attacking the rest of the world - likely starting with Israel.

The people will understand the danger when the globalists tell them so in their media outlets.

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Meanwhile they get the president they deserve.

Live with terror, enjoy diversity.

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Well... I cannot see how she'll win this now.

I could have seen her succeed against Melenchon, or Fillon, but not against Macron.

I lost a lot of money today... I've made a big bet on Macron, so should break even if that occurs, but still, it is painful.

I cannot see any scenario where she'll win.

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Not surprised in the very least. Told Latan a few pages ago Wink your worst nightmare comes true: Macron vs Le Pen in an uneven duel.

You really have to consider the fact that, Macron looks like and act like the ideal male archetype in metrosexual France (so all the big cities). And most of the cucked French guys wouldnt dare voting differently to what their girlfriends say Laugh Some numbers give <5% votes for Le Pen in Paris, nevermind most of the attacks happen here.

I aint even mad, the Parisians (and other big cities) voted for their own destruction, but it's not like this is new anyway.

You know what's the most disgusting thing about this is? After the attack people just go about their business as usual. I dont watch TV, and if I didnt check this forum I wouldnt even know about the attack. Most simply dont care. At the open space in my office people are still discussing their weekend plan while the news about the attack is playing.

They dont need Macron to tell them to get used to it. They already are.

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(04-23-2017 02:35 PM)Pointer Wrote:  The prospect of Frexit doesn't sit well with me so all I can say is: go Macron.

Exactly. I often to go to France for football matches, wine tasting and for other events, I don't really want France to exit from EU. That's gonna make so much harder for Italians to visit France. Border control, etc.

Plus, internal problems in France don't really interest me anyway. I hope Macron wins it.
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By endorsing Macron, Fillon proved that he was nothing but controlled opposition to steal votes from Le Pen. It Failed. He's a complete cuck and we will probably not hear from him again.
Melechon is a danger. A Chavez reaching 19% in one of the biggest countries in Europe is dangerous. Hardcore Socialism is making a comeback, and the kids are buying into that shit.

Le Pen has a big challenge ahead and unfortunately I do not believe she will win even if refugeehadists blow up the eiffel tower. I believe there will be another debate and she must pummel Macron hard (the way he likes it) bring out the stupid stuff he said about living with terror and fighting the nationalists. Bring out the memes.
She has two weeks to burn him as much as possible, to make his victory as humiliating as possible. Lay the foundations for next elections.

Nationalism is on the rise and they all have to gang up against Le Pen, because they are scared shitless.
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(04-24-2017 04:15 AM)Rossi Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:35 PM)Pointer Wrote:  The prospect of Frexit doesn't sit well with me so all I can say is: go Macron.

Exactly. I often to go to France for football matches, wine tasting and for other events, I don't really want France to exit from EU. That's gonna make so much harder for Italians to visit France. Border control, etc.

Plus, internal problems in France don't really interest me anyway. I hope Macron wins it.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Europeans could have easily traveled back and forth between the countries while the borders were intact and well-armed.

There were hardly any massive controls between some countries.

European youth did Interrail travel for weeks and months without any problem.

Now they have problems, because they risk getting raped, assaulted and otherwise enriched by your Muslim brothers in faith. Back 15-20 years ago you could send your daughter with a female friend on a trip across Europe.

The most they risked was pickpockets stealing their money, which resulted only in dad wiring them some more. Now the very same girls risk life, limb and mental sanity. That freedom is already gone.
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(04-24-2017 04:24 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Now the very same girls risk life, limb and mental sanity. That freedom is already gone.

Probably for the better.

Dont forget the freedom for women and other non-productive members of society lead us to this mess in the first place.

Let them be the first to reap the rewards, while right headed people travel with care and well-armed.

Not to mention that the usual Europe chicks who backpack around Europe to "find herself" are often the worst cunts and leftist voters.

Let natural selection works its course.

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(04-24-2017 04:24 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  What the fuck are you talking about?

Europeans could have easily traveled back and forth between the countries while the borders were intact and well-armed.

There were hardly any massive controls between some countries.

European youth did Interrail travel for weeks and months without any problem.

Now they have problems, because they risk getting raped, assaulted and otherwise enriched by your Muslim brothers in faith. Back 15-20 years ago you could send your daughter with a female friend on a trip across Europe.

The most they risked was pickpockets stealing their money, which resulted only in dad wiring them some more. Now the very same girls risk life, limb and mental sanity. That freedom is already gone.

Yes, there are controls. What are you talking about? I've been going to France since 1994, ever since I was a kid. There was always French/Italian control when you take the route via Sanremo to France. What are you on about? I don't think you know my country better than me.

We used to go Fridays and come back on Sunday before school. Sometimes checking points would have 5-10 km long line. After EU, there's almost no control whatsoever.

As I said, I don't really care internal problems of France since I've never lived in that country more than 3 months at a time. That's their problem, not mine.

Don't be so bitter because Macron is winning. You live in Poland anyway. Stay in Poland, don't go to France, so you don't have a problem with Muslims. You're safe in Poland or you might check out Hungary too.
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(04-24-2017 04:20 AM)Wreckingball Wrote:  By endorsing Macron, Fillon proved that he was nothing but controlled opposition to steal votes from Le Pen. It Failed. He's a complete cuck and we will probably not hear from him again.

The painful thing is, Europe aside, I actually thought (past tense) he'd be able to get more good done than Le Pen. I liked his reform programme, and he has all the LR parilamentarians to get it through.

Now, thanks to his cowardice France will turn into the next Sweden being just a short hop from Morroco. France2 and TF1 will just livestream cuckporn, the state sector will continue to bloat, making even Melenchon today look like a reformist in 2022.

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The notch counts were lower back then - sure the Euro-sluts got banged out, because that is the main joy for young women visiting new places, but as a rule women back then were more conservative.

The freedom you speak of is not gone, she can still active her Tinder account and get 2 men per day delivered to her doorstep - both men will look hotter than her.

No woman in the past except for Madonna could have done that. (She actually ordered men she saw on TV, saw in magazines - her assistants contacted them and they were flown in for the bang.)

The ones who backpack around Europe now are highly different to the ones that were around then.

Ah well - the patriarchy will swing back some day as it always does - either after WWIII or some other crisis that results in the banning of gender studies degrees and rolls back the feminist craziness. No culture can sustain such cuckoldry forever. Because if they keep it up and the globalists don't move against it, then every bloody country in the West will be a medieval sharia-shithole in 2-3 centuries.

Well - except for Far East with China, Korea and Japan. They will be having colonies on terra-formed Mars while the Muslim Europe will be hanging 10 year old rape-victims and blasphemers.
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(04-24-2017 04:30 AM)Rossi Wrote:  
(04-24-2017 04:24 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  What the fuck are you talking about?

Europeans could have easily traveled back and forth between the countries while the borders were intact and well-armed.

There were hardly any massive controls between some countries.

European youth did Interrail travel for weeks and months without any problem.

Now they have problems, because they risk getting raped, assaulted and otherwise enriched by your Muslim brothers in faith. Back 15-20 years ago you could send your daughter with a female friend on a trip across Europe.

The most they risked was pickpockets stealing their money, which resulted only in dad wiring them some more. Now the very same girls risk life, limb and mental sanity. That freedom is already gone.

Yes, there are controls. What are you talking about? I've been going to France since 1994, ever since I was a kid. There was always French/Italian control when you take the route via Sanremo to France. What are you on about? I don't think you know my country better than me.

We used to go Fridays and come back on Sunday before school. Sometimes checking points would have 5-10 km long line. After EU, there's almost no control whatsoever.

As I said, I don't really care internal problems of France since I've never lived in that country more than 3 months at a time. That's their problem, not mine.

Don't be so bitter because Macron is winning. You live in Poland anyway. Stay in Poland, don't go to France, so you don't have a problem with Muslims. You're safe in Poland or you might check out Hungary too.


Italy and France are part of EU since the 1958.
Italy is part of Schengen since 1990. France since 1985.
You don't need to be in EU to be in Schengen.
You don't need to be in EU to have open borders between neighboring countries.

Get your facts straight.
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(04-24-2017 03:15 AM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  2012 Melenchon voters also went more for Macron than Le Pen, that's bad. We'll see what they do in the second round, it's a bit unpredictable. The students who voted for Melenchon in the first round will probably go to Macron in the second round while his actual working class voters will go to Le Pen.

My girl went to the Harvard of France. A lot of her classmates voted for Melenchon (still not as many as Macron though). A lot of them would prefer to abstain than to vote for Macron in the 2nd round. Many of Melenchon's working class voters though are actually Arabs or Africans. His vote in some of the banlieue's in the Seine-Saint-Denis department north-east of Paris was as high as 45%. The question is whether these people would still turn out to vote against Le Pen considering Macron's neoliberal economic policy.

Meanwhile most of her friends from where she grew up stuck with Fillon, since she is from a very wealthy and Catholic area. Le Pen didn't even crack 10% of the vote there.
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(04-24-2017 04:50 AM)Deluge Wrote:  Many of Melenchon's working class voters though are actually Arabs or Africans. His vote in some of the banlieue's in the Seine-Saint-Denis department north-east of Paris was as high as 45%. The question is whether these people would still turn out to vote against Le Pen considering Macron's neoliberal economic policy.

How put off are they by his homosexuality? Muslims tend to vote UK Labour despite them being extremely pro-gay.

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If Le Pen had gotten 37-40%, then her chances of winning would be there, because Macron voters are small and the secound tour would have mobilized mainly the most extreme Le Pen adversaries.

Goldman Sachs expects a 62% win of Macron. Even if they are wrong by a 10%, then he will win anyway.

I am not even sure if 20 trucks of peace and 2000 dead Frenchmen would change things now.

The Netherlands already showed that the Europeans are way too brainwashed to understand the very real danger they are in. All that is happening now is just a prelude. Voting for Le Pen or Geert Wilders would have helped prevent tremendous bloodshed and war in the future. They are all frankly like party-goers on the Titanic who keep on dancing while the lower levels are already flooded.

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Quote:Where did Macron and Le Pen achieve their best scores?

It was in Paris that Emmanuel Macron achieved his best performance, with 34.83% of the vote. It also reached 32.30% in the Hauts-de-Seine, 30.48% in Wallis and Futuna, 30.26% in Île-et-Vilaine and 30.22% in Guadeloupe.

Conversely, the former Minister of the Economy was sullied in New Caledonia, where he achieved only a score of 12.75%. In French Polynesia, 14.71% were in trouble, 17.73% in the Var, 17.68% in Southern Corsica and 17.94% in Aisne.

It is precisely in this department of Aisne that Marine Le Pen achieves his best score (35.67%). Not surprisingly, it is also widely at the forefront in its Pas-de-Calais stronghold with 34.34% of the vote, but also in Haute-Marne (33.22%), French Polynesia (32.53%) and The Ardennes (32.41%).

By mirror effect, it is in the capital that the candidate frontist gets its worst performance, with less than 5% (4.99%). It is also very low in Wallis and Futuna (7.11%), Hauts-de-Seine (7.64%), Martinique (10.94%) and Val-de-Marne (11.50% ).

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Quote:Poor disenfranchised people are sick and tired of being fucked over.

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Emmanuel Macron is the globalist 'business as usual' candidate.

In France, if you want to make serious money you go to Paris, and you love the 'business as usual' mind.

It's one of the reasons his biggest score is in Paris.
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RE: French Presidential Election Thread
(04-24-2017 05:01 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  If Le Pen had gotten 37-40%, then her chances of winning would be there, because Macron voters are small and the secound tour would have mobilized mainly the most extreme Le Pen adversaries.

Goldman Sachs expects a 62% win of Macron. Even if they are wrong by a 10%, then he will win anyway.

I am not even sure if 20 trucks of peace and 2000 dead Frenchmen would change things now.

The Netherlands already showed that the Europeans are way too brainwashed to understand the very real danger they are in. All that is happening now is just a prelude. Voting for Le Pen or Geert Wilders would have helped prevent tremendous bloodshed and war in the future. They are all frankly like party-goers on the Titanic who keep on dancing while the lower levels are already flooded.

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Like the Titanic - just not so romantic and classy.

I think that if instead of Fillon (a "strong conservative") you had Sarko or Juppe, Le Pen would have scored much higher (at least 10 points), giving her around 32%. She will, most probably, not win. But remember. 1 in 5 voting french are not as cucks as you may think.
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RE: French Presidential Election Thread
(04-24-2017 04:50 AM)Deluge Wrote:  
(04-24-2017 03:15 AM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  2012 Melenchon voters also went more for Macron than Le Pen, that's bad. We'll see what they do in the second round, it's a bit unpredictable. The students who voted for Melenchon in the first round will probably go to Macron in the second round while his actual working class voters will go to Le Pen.

My girl went to the Harvard of France. A lot of her classmates voted for Melenchon (still not as many as Macron though). A lot of them would prefer to abstain than to vote for Macron in the 2nd round. Many of Melenchon's working class voters though are actually Arabs or Africans. His vote in some of the banlieue's in the Seine-Saint-Denis department north-east of Paris was as high as 45%. The question is whether these people would still turn out to vote against Le Pen considering Macron's neoliberal economic policy.

Meanwhile most of her friends from where she grew up stuck with Fillon, since she is from a very wealthy and Catholic area. Le Pen didn't even crack 10% of the vote there.

Melonchon's voters will split three ways. One third will stay at home, one third will back Macron with the other going to Le Pen.

In relation to the above, many older generation/3rd-4th generation immigrants actually support Le Pen as a flood of immigrants into their areas has a) brought about an increase in crime and b) excess supply of labour into the market has been a double edged sword for the working classes, be they French or non French origin - i.e. wages have fallen while rents have gone up. This has been pointed out by the genuine, anti-revisionist Left in the UK like George Galloway and Arthur Scargill on why mass immigration hurts the local working class regardless of religious/ethnic affiliation.

Personally speaking if I was French, I would vote Le Pen in the 2nd Round as I would see her as the lesser of two evils to the greater evil that is Macron, i.e. globalist, neo-liberal capitalist banker of Goldman Sachs & Rotschilds fame.
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(04-24-2017 04:39 AM)Wreckingball Wrote:  Italy and France are part of EU since the 1958.
Italy is part of Schengen since 1990. France since 1985.
You don't need to be in EU to be in Schengen.
You don't need to be in EU to have open borders between neighboring countries.

Get your facts straight.

Everybody knows that. It doesn't change the fact that there were checkpoints at the border when you take route via E-80 to France. Does it? I want France to stay in EU and Schengen. Therefore, I want Macron to win.

Since majority of the French people will vote for Macron as well, he will be the President. Any more questions?
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I think Macron has good points. France, for now, belongs in the EU. They're not "solid" enough to go their own way.

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