(12-03-2017 11:51 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote: I would work for the CIA if my country truly needed me, but it would have to be something deadly important-the government does not pay well.
No, but the experience can be quite lucrative. There's a ton of ex-CIA and ex-Military guys who have used that experience to get jobs with government contractors, hedge funds, etc. and the like that are worth millions or more every year.
Even at junior levels that status of being a "combat vet" or "ex CIA" can give people a crack at top-tier jobs like McKinsey consulting or large Wall Street banks that would normally exclude anyone without any Ivy League or equivalently prestigious degree.
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I've looked into government jobs that require clearances, but there seem to be a lot of restrictions on your lifestyle. I'm not sure of the work-life balance, and I have a feeling my social life would take a huge nosedive.
A lot of these types of positions go to ex-military and as noted above by Jetset military intelligence.
For those of you who are considering such positions and wonder what 'squeaky clean' means download the SF-86.
It's the longest form I've ever seen and can take hours to fill out. Background investigators will interview your references to see if there are any discrepancies. There are also serious penalties for falsifying information on it. For CIA and FBI expect a polygraph (sometimes multiple ones) as well.
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(11-21-2015 04:01 AM)PABeaulieu Wrote: I'm Canadian, I guess the SCRS would be a better option.
However, Canadians helped CIA a lot. Think of Ken Taylor, who helped to smuggle Americans out of Iran in 1979.
Taylor was a great guy (he died recently by the way) but his role has been greatly downsized in that bullshit Hollywood movie called "Argos".
Taylor was a straight out CIA agent, and a big one at that, he was pretty much running the show for the Agency in Tehran. The US overthrew the Shah and put Khomeini in, to set Iran back 20 years and squander its wealth and youth on the Iran-Iraq war, a useless WW1 bloodbath.
Quote:Ken Taylor, the Canadian diplomat celebrated 30 years ago for hiding U.S. embassy personnel during the Iranian revolution, actively spied for the Americans and helped them plan an armed incursion into the country.
Mr. Taylor, ambassador in Iran from 1977 to 1980, became "the de facto CIA station chief" in Tehran after the U.S. embassy was seized by students on Nov. 4, 1979, and 63 Americans, including the four-member Central Intelligence Agency contingent, were taken hostage.
Had his espionage been discovered, Mr. Taylor told The Globe and Mail in an interview this week, "the Iranians wouldn't have tolerated it. And the consequences may have been severe."
Trent University historian Robert Wright, author of Our Man in Tehran , a new account of the incident released today, strongly implies that then-prime-minister Joe Clark insisted Mr. Taylor's spying be kept quiet, fearing a negative political fallout if the Canadian public learned that one of its envoys was a U.S. spook.
...Mr. Taylor himself said he never expected the story to come out. "It had been under wraps for 30 years, and my assumption was that it would be for another 30 years. I didn't expect to be here to talk about it."
The Shah was originally a US puppet, set up to rule Iran after the CIA overthrew the democratically elected, secular government of Mossadegh ("Operation Ajax").
But much like Saddam Hussein, another CIA puppet installed after the overthrow of a secular democracy in Iraq, the Shah had outgrown his usefulness by the 1970s, he actually provided stability and modernized the country. Under his rule, Iran was poised to become a great modern regional power. That's why the mullahs, with their medieval islamic theology and endless wars, had to be brought in.
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12-03-2017 04:24 PM
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(12-03-2017 02:13 PM)Neo Wrote: I've looked into government jobs that require clearances, but there seem to be a lot of restrictions on your lifestyle. I'm not sure of the work-life balance, and I have a feeling my social life would take a huge nosedive.
You also need to consider the impact it can have on you for life as well. Other countries get copies of "lists" and if you deal with highly protected information, certain countries may be a no-go for the rest of your life.
I think being a field agent for the CIA would be fucking awesome! That said, I'm a former infantryman and a Marine, so, I like going to the field and deployments. I guess, if that is your conviction than investigate it and follow it. Me personally, I would not join the CIA or the military today given how the country is. I refuse to fight and possibly die for a country that hates me and wants to make it okay to kill new born babies, castrate children and fuck children. Until we finally remove the influence of leftism from our civilization I'll hold onto that conviction. Its tough, because, working a normal corporate job can be soul sucking and for all its faults the military and CIA are good places for an adventurous young man. Trouble is, these institutions seem to be giving way to this leftist influence, which does not welcome adventurous young men.
12-04-2019 04:11 PM
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Totalitarian mindsets require compliant backstabbers ( So those who are outstanding get sabotaged before they accumulate too much power), not forward thinking and adventurous people.
Personally I think the sweet spot is working at smaller shops. They tend to be a lot less soul sucking than the corporate gigs.
(12-03-2017 02:13 PM)Neo Wrote: I've looked into government jobs that require clearances, but there seem to be a lot of restrictions on your lifestyle. I'm not sure of the work-life balance, and I have a feeling my social life would take a huge nosedive.
A lot of these types of positions go to ex-military and as noted above by Jetset military intelligence.
For those of you who are considering such positions and wonder what 'squeaky clean' means download the SF-86.
It's the longest form I've ever seen and can take hours to fill out. Background investigators will interview your references to see if there are any discrepancies. There are also serious penalties for falsifying information on it. For CIA and FBI expect a polygraph (sometimes multiple ones) as well.
It's not that bad if you don't have any big debts or secrets that make you susceptible to blackmail. Some men really like it because it is a ticket to lifetime secure employment. The companies spend a lot of money to get you cleared, and there is a limited supply of cleared people.
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12-04-2019 07:44 PM
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I applied back in college before I was redpilled - didn't even get a phone call. There is no way they'd take me nowadays unless it was to become a "Nazi" shill or something, and even then I doubt they'd take me...
Here's how CIA recruitment works. The online application is just theater. No one that works for the CIA doing serious stuff actually applied on the website. Maybe some guy analyzing maps or driving trucks applied on the website, but the sketchy stuff like planning 9/11 or inventing Osama bin Laden requires extreme loyalty. They aren't risking some guy they found online spilling the beans.
In reality, the CIA serves as a front for Satan and operates as a hybrid of a secret society and cult. Recruitment is done at satanic organizations such as certain universities, other secret societies, and religions. Only a member of a satanic secret society has the required loyalty to do the dirty things the CIA requires because they've already sold their soul. I'm sure there's some satanic ritual that you have to do to join the CIA as well, but I can't confirm that.
Anyway, don't even bother applying to the CIA if you aren't a mason, Jew, or Mormon. If you're qualified to work at the CIA, then you'll already know what to do.
(12-03-2017 02:13 PM)Neo Wrote: For CIA and FBI expect a polygraph (sometimes multiple ones) as well.
Polygraphs are a joke and easy to beat. Security clearances are mostly theater anyway. If the government wants you, then they'll accept you and shuffle you around if someone gets suspicious (fully infiltrated nowadays, so it's unlikely). Just look at how many times Jonathan Pollard "fell through the cracks."
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12-05-2019 12:48 AM
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Would never apply to become a CIA agent. Guys on here watching too many James Bond movies. This agency is the maybe the tip of the Iceberg at best, there's dozens of private ones doing actual hits and the like.
Secondly, why would you ever assist a force of evil. I view the US Government as a negative force in the world in our current time. Period.
You really think the CIA are the good guys? Have a spine and stand for something, like God, Family, and freedom from the state.
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12-05-2019 07:49 PM
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Quote:Me personally, I would not join the CIA or the military today given how the country is. I refuse to fight and possibly die for a country that hates me and wants to make it okay to kill new born babies, castrate children and fuck children. Until we finally remove the influence of leftism from our civilization I'll hold onto that conviction.
Yep. I’m gonna risk my life for a bunch of quasi commie neuter gender helicopters that’ll turn around and say I’m privileged for doing so? No thanks, you can defend yourselves.
After talking to a young lady for a while, she told me “Even though your skin is black, I can tell your heart is white.”
(12-05-2019 07:49 PM)Nulled Wrote: Would never apply to become a CIA agent. Guys on here watching too many James Bond movies. This agency is the maybe the tip of the Iceberg at best, there's dozens of private ones doing actual hits and the like.
Secondly, why would you ever assist a force of evil. I view the US Government as a negative force in the world in our current time. Period.
You really think the CIA are the good guys? Have a spine and stand for something, like God, Family, and freedom from the state.
If you want some spy drama that's actually somewhat realistic watch Burn Notice. Forewarning that it suffers somewhat in terms of being a good TV show as a result.