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RE: Inspirational paintings depicting positive values.
Since I discovered romanticist paintings, I've become interested in the entire romantic movement.

I suspect it's been hidden from us on purpose.

"...Romanticism was characterized by its emphasis on emotion and individualism as well as glorification of all the past and nature, preferring the medieval rather than the classical. It was partly a reaction to the Industrial Revolution,[1] the aristocratic social and political norms of the Age of Enlightenment, and the scientific rationalization of nature—all components of modernity.[2] ..."

That seems rather relevant today.

Here's another spectacular romantic painting (also chosen on the Wiki page):

[Image: 800px-John_William_Waterhouse_-_The_Lady...roject.jpg]

Or how about this Norwegian painter:

[Image: Dahl_Hans_%28Norwegian%29_1849_to_1937_B...7.3_cm.jpg]

I can understand romianticism.

Which is why I think there might be something worth reading from that period.
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RE: Inspirational paintings depicting positive values.
What do you guys think about the beheading of Holofernes by Judith (1614–18)

[Image: 440px-Artemisia_Gentileschi_-_Giuditta_d...Adjust.jpg]

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RE: Inspirational paintings depicting positive values.
(07-17-2018 03:08 PM)Oz. Wrote:  What do you guys think about the beheading of Holofernes by Judith (1614–18)

[Image: 440px-Artemisia_Gentileschi_-_Giuditta_d...Adjust.jpg]

Great painting. Not positive though except on Jezebel.

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RE: Inspirational paintings depicting positive values.
(07-15-2018 07:08 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  [Image: The-Zaporozhye-Cossacks-Replying-to-the-Sultan.jpg]

Ilya Repin - Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks to Sultan Mehmed IV of the Ottoman Empire

Based on supposed historical event. Cossacks allegedly wrote insulting reply to sultan after he gave them ultimatum to submit under his rule.

Positive values? Size of cossack balls! True shitlords.

Quote:Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are thou, that canst not slay a hedgehog with your naked arse? The devil shits, and your army eats. Thou shalt not, thou son of a whore, make subjects of Christian sons; we have no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, fuck thy mother.

Thou Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-fucker of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before God, grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our dick. Pig's snout, mare's arse, slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw thine own mother!

So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our arse!

I've always liked this painting.

First, the story is amusing.

Second, the picture is very vivid. The guy in the center, presumably the ataman or something, has a scheming, maniacal look on his face. Clearly he's deep in thought coming up with more expletives to add to his letter, and something he's just said has caused the rest of his men to crack up. His authority is amplified by the fact that he's got a nerdy-looking scribe in front and below him to pen the message. It's likely most of the men in the group cannot read.

Third, it's incredibly well-painted. At first glance it looks like one of those old photos that was colorized later on, and then you realize that no, someone actually drew that. The details are really, really good.

Repin's work is a fine example of what the Realistic technique is capable of doing. A photo would be wholly incapable of depicting the emotions and context that the piece conveys. Realism is a genuinely unique product of European culture. Its neglect and castigation in the modern artistic community is a monstrous crime.
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RE: Inspirational paintings depicting positive values.
(07-17-2018 01:43 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Since I discovered romanticist paintings, I've become interested in the entire romantic movement.

I suspect it's been hidden from us on purpose.

"...Romanticism was characterized by its emphasis on emotion and individualism as well as glorification of all the past and nature, preferring the medieval rather than the classical. It was partly a reaction to the Industrial Revolution,[1] the aristocratic social and political norms of the Age of Enlightenment, and the scientific rationalization of nature—all components of modernity.[2] ..."

That seems rather relevant today.

Here's another spectacular romantic painting (also chosen on the Wiki page):

[Image: 800px-John_William_Waterhouse_-_The_Lady...roject.jpg]

Or how about this Norwegian painter:

[Image: Dahl_Hans_%28Norwegian%29_1849_to_1937_B...7.3_cm.jpg]

I can understand romianticism.

Which is why I think there might be something worth reading from that period.

Plenty; some of the best work in the English language is by the Romantics.
On topic, what about Holbein's Ambassadors?
[Image: 1200px-Hans_Holbein_the_Younger_-_The_Am...roject.jpg]

Aside from the execution, the two figures were friends in real life, and I think it represents the stability that relationship can bring to life, sometimes to the point where death and war aren't so terrible or recognisable.
Maybe I'm just spitballing, but the level of detail draws attention to the two men, both diplomats, and how everything else is in the background-makes it clear Holbein wasn't just painting a court scene.

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RE: Inspirational paintings depicting positive values.
Good call on Holbein the Younger who was an amazing realist. He also had an extremely stalwart and piercing portrait of Thomas Moore.

[Image: 800px-Hans_Holbein%2C_the_Younger_-_Sir_...roject.jpg]

Also, let's not forget to mention that amazing memento mori in The Ambassadors that only appears after you are done looking at the painting and happen to look back while walking away.




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RE: Inspirational paintings depicting positive values.
(07-14-2018 08:35 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  [Image: Caspar_David_Friedrich_-_Wanderer_above_...260a62.jpg]

"Wanderer above the sea of fog".

The fog represents the uncertainty of life. You can climb to the top and look ahead, but you never quite know what lies ahead. Then as we look into the backgrounds at the rocks in the fog, they seem to give off an appearance of not rocks, but ruins. The misty memory of a great past that was lost. Melancholy, a yearning for a "return of kings".


This is a powerful one i'd like to put on my wall. Man is at once the master of his surroundings, yet insignificant.
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RE: Inspirational paintings depicting positive values.
Even though he was a psycho, Franz Von Stuck painted one of the simplest, most arresting versions of the Pieta. Not exactly positive, except in the long run.

[Image: 800px-1891_von_Stuck_Piet%C3%A0_anagoria.JPG]

“That sig BTW is a very asinine anti-family anti-parent quote. You live in a country where 40% of children grow up without a biological father, yet somehow “the greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents”? Sorry but this is fruity Boomer nonsense.”

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Adolph Menzel had some pretty evocative paintings of church interiors, and yes I will, if I have to, keep this thread alive singlehandedly. You can almost smell the incense on that last one.

[Image: Early-Mass-in-a-Salzburg-Church-Adolph-v...00x680.jpg]

[Image: Church-Interior-with-Woman-at-Prayer-bef...00x608.jpg]

[Image: e4cb0be67bcadf6ce50ed10f4d6fa281.jpg]

“That sig BTW is a very asinine anti-family anti-parent quote. You live in a country where 40% of children grow up without a biological father, yet somehow “the greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents”? Sorry but this is fruity Boomer nonsense.”

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(07-17-2018 03:10 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  Great painting. Not positive though except on Jezebel.

Laugh

Not to worry bout keeping the thread alive bro, I got pretty extensive collection of paintings I am into, however, a lot of them are not "positive" as to post on this thread.

The Night Watch (1642)

[Image: 760px-The_Nightwatch_by_Rembrandt.jpg]

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(07-17-2018 01:43 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Since I discovered romanticist paintings, I've become interested in the entire romantic movement.

I suspect it's been hidden from us on purpose.

"...Romanticism was characterized by its emphasis on emotion and individualism as well as glorification of all the past and nature, preferring the medieval rather than the classical. It was partly a reaction to the Industrial Revolution,[1] the aristocratic social and political norms of the Age of Enlightenment, and the scientific rationalization of nature—all components of modernity.[2] ..."

That seems rather relevant today.

I can understand romianticism.

Which is why I think there might be something worth reading from that period.

I wouldn't really say it has been hidden, any goth kid worth his salt knows about the romantics for example. Any and all art periods are available to anyone, it's just that most people have no interest or knowledge about or of art, history or philosophy in general. I like the romantic period a lot, but at the same time I recognize some of the movement's faults. They idolized extreme displays of emotion, to the point of being somewhat out of place or ludicrous to us. Just read The Sorrows of Young Werther by Goethe, which spearheaded the movement to see what I mean. Goethe himself would later say the Romantic movement is everything that is sick.
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RE: Inspirational paintings depicting positive values.
As Western European was descending into post-talent art, in 1919 Serbian artist rendered the Kosovo maiden, a figure from medieval Serbian poetry and a symbol of female compassion and care.

[Image: Kosovo_Maiden%2C_Uro%C5%A1_Predi%C4%87%2C_1919.jpg]

Despite the leftist narrative that historically women were thought of as little better than dogs, the reality is the European cultural tradition is to afford protection, consideration in light of and celebration of their positive traits.

You never loose it.

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RE: Inspirational paintings depicting positive values.
The Apotheosis of Hercules. (Francois Lemoyne) 1736.


[Image: Fran%C3%A7ois_Lemoyne_-_The_Apotheosis_o...A12654.jpg]



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'The coving is decorated with representations of the Four Princely Virtues: Justice, Fortitude, Constancy, and Courage. These are separated by Cupids pointing to the Labors of Hercules. In the center of the ceiling, Hercules arrives in his chariot on Mount Olympus. Jupiter offers his daughter Hebe in marriage to the hero. Mars and Vulcan observe the fall of demons and vices. Apollo sits on the steps of the Temple of Memory.
Apotheosis is the largest ceiling painted on canvas in Europe—480 square meters of surface area. It depicts some 140 figures representing the gods and goddesses of Olympus. They have gathered for the arrival of Hercules after his successful labors raised him to the rank of God'

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(07-18-2018 10:49 PM)Oz. Wrote:  Laugh

Not to worry bout keeping the thread alive bro, I got pretty extensive collection of paintings I am into, however, a lot of them are not "positive" as to post on this thread.

The Night Watch (1642)

[Image: 760px-The_Nightwatch_by_Rembrandt.jpg]

I'm just glad someone got around to including Rembrandt.

“That sig BTW is a very asinine anti-family anti-parent quote. You live in a country where 40% of children grow up without a biological father, yet somehow “the greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents”? Sorry but this is fruity Boomer nonsense.”

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RE: Inspirational paintings depicting positive values.
For a large painting, it can be easy to miss.

[Image: CYyqcaoUMAI2P8p.png]

“That sig BTW is a very asinine anti-family anti-parent quote. You live in a country where 40% of children grow up without a biological father, yet somehow “the greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents”? Sorry but this is fruity Boomer nonsense.”

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Fantastic thread.

I love images that depict masculine men and feminine women, as we need those images to remind of us of our true callings and to not deny gender differences.

[Image: JOHN-WILLIAM-WATERHOUSE-HYLAS-AND-THE-NYMPHS.JPG]

Hylas and the Nymphs by John Waterhouse

The women are feminine and delicate, yet it can also be a cautionary tale of being tempted by women and not staying true to your own course as a man.

He also did this piece on the Sirens tempting Odysseus:

[Image: John_William_Waterhouse_-_Ulysses_and_th...891%29.jpg]

I find pictures of women tenderly looking after their men and children also highly inspirational in a world with you-go-girl careerism, this is a soothing balm:

[Image: breton-mother-and-child300.jpg?1384364102]

Young Mother nursing her Child by Jules Bretton

[Image: 64dbdd43ef3a70e6804bbf1a24ad5573.jpg]

The Forgotten Man by Jon McNaughton, great patriotic paintings embracing the Everyday Man

Also by him, a great symbolism of a man refusing to be a mental slave:

[Image: John_McNaughton_1.jpg]

Google him, he has some great stuff. He sells directly on his website, well worth it for having his great work in your home. Sure to trigger leftists!

Godspeed by Leighton:

[Image: godspeed.jpg]

I own several beautiful statutes depicting masculine men and feminine women, note how the men are protecting their women, claiming them as their own and the women are happy in the masculine warmth and embrace:

[Image: 51ZkgjBf6OL._SL1100_.jpg]

[Image: 61OleHQsp5L._SL1100_.jpg]

[Image: 51StbKPNKPL._SL1100_.jpg]

You can get them on Amazon for about $60 bucks each:

Version 1, Version 2, Version 3.

You can also find prints of the paintings I mentioned on Amazon or other websites. I highly recommend that you decorate your home with inspirational artwork, as it is a reminder as to how to live your life.

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(07-19-2018 01:06 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  [Image: 64dbdd43ef3a70e6804bbf1a24ad5573.jpg]

The Forgotten Man by Jon McNaughton, great patriotic paintings embracing the Everyday Man

Very powerful.
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RE: Inspirational paintings depicting positive values.
Some more Rembrandt.

Living in the overstimulated world we do, I am partial to paintings that depict quiet contemplation:

The Philosopher In Meditation.

[Image: Rembrandt_-_The_Philosopher_in_Meditation.jpg]

Also interesting is when a painter depicts the same scene at different times in his life. Here is Rembrandt's versions of "The Supper at Emmaus" separated by twenty years.

Young version.

[Image: rembrandt_emmaus-open_grt.jpg]

Older.

[Image: r13.jpg]

His version of the Descent From the Cross is one of my favorites, capturing the reality of death and the emotions of his disciples in dramatic way.

[Image: 461px-Rembrandt_Harmensz._van_Rijn_071.jpg]

For the sheer sense of man against nature, this is one of his best.

Christ in the Storm on the Lake of Galilee.

[Image: 800px-Rembrandt_Christ_in_the_Storm_on_t...alilee.jpg]

“That sig BTW is a very asinine anti-family anti-parent quote. You live in a country where 40% of children grow up without a biological father, yet somehow “the greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents”? Sorry but this is fruity Boomer nonsense.”

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(07-14-2018 09:57 PM)Oz. Wrote:  The Creation of Adam (c.1512)

[Image: 600px-Creación_de_Adán_%28Miguel_Ángel%29.jpg]

Salvator Mundi (c.1500)

Imagine won't upload for this one for some reason.

[Image: i-8f3e98954abf5fe1ae31ef7866873835-paluzzisistine.jpg]

There is a deeper message hidden in that Michelangelo painting, perhaps he was an atheist who is insinuating here that God is the creation of the human mind...

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I like Bocklin's Self Portrait with Death. It displays a powerful message in a simple way: the artist must continue, even though Death is watching over his shoulder. And yet he remains positive and confident...refusing to let the mystery of death overtake him.

[Image: bocklin_death-violin.jpg]

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(07-19-2018 01:06 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  I love images that depict masculine men and feminine women, as we need those images to remind of us of our true callings and to not deny gender differences.

I'm strongly drawn to these types of images as well. Those statues are awesome.

In many ways, all you need is a brave hero, a beautiful (and grateful) woman and a monster to defeat. The symbolism is all there for you to complete your own little narrative. Granted, it's cheesy as fuck and may not be high-brow enough for some tastes, but this set-up works for me.

Feast your eyes on this gem;

'Perseus freeing Andromeda' Emile Bin, 1865

[Image: perseus-and-andromeda1.jpg]



Lift, do your cardio. Be brave and approach! Defeat your demons. (Better stretch too, if you plan on lunging into action like Perseus here!) The only thing that could complete it, would be a pile of gold or treasure in the background symbolising your financial reward for working hard and hitting your goals. But he marries Andromeda, and she’s rich as fuck, so the wealth is implied.


On heroism and overcoming the odds, I should warn you that I'll be posting at least one Frazetta pic at some point. Or be my guest and beat me to it if anyone has a fave.

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RE: Inspirational paintings depicting positive values.
(07-19-2018 11:54 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  I'm just glad someone got around to including Rembrandt.

Rembrandt has amazing work. Do you think this piece was his or one of his students?

The Man with the Golden Helmet (c.1650)

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Quote:The impressionist Max Liebermann said: "Whenever I see a Frans Hals, I feel like painting; whenever I see a Rembrandt, I feel like giving up"

St. Matthew (c.1625) by Frans Hals

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Women Plucking Geese (1871) by Liebermann

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RE: Inspirational paintings depicting positive values.
(07-20-2018 10:03 AM)Richard Turpin Wrote:  
(07-19-2018 01:06 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  I love images that depict masculine men and feminine women, as we need those images to remind of us of our true callings and to not deny gender differences.

I'm strongly drawn to these types of images as well. Those statues are awesome.

In many ways, all you need is a brave hero, a beautiful (and grateful) woman and a monster to defeat. The symbolism is all there for you to complete your own little narrative. Granted, it's cheesy as fuck and may not be high-brow enough for some tastes, but this set-up works for me.

Feast your eyes on this gem;

'Perseus freeing Andromeda' Emile Bin, 1865

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Lift, do your cardio. Be brave and approach! Defeat your demons. (Better stretch too, if you plan on lunging into action like Perseus here!) The only thing that could complete it, would be a pile of gold or treasure in the background symbolising your financial reward for working hard and hitting your goals. But he marries Andromeda, and she’s rich as fuck, so the wealth is implied.


On heroism and overcoming the odds, I should warn you that I'll be posting at least one Frazetta pic at some point. Or be my guest and beat me to it if anyone has a fave.

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RE: Inspirational paintings depicting positive values.
(07-20-2018 10:12 AM)Oz. Wrote:  
(07-19-2018 11:54 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  I'm just glad someone got around to including Rembrandt.

Rembrandt has amazing work. Do you think this piece was his or one of his students?

The Man with the Golden Helmet (c.1650)

[Image: 440px-Mann_mit_dem_Goldhelm.jpg]

I have nowhere near the sensibility to be able to figure that one out.

Did you hear about the "Next Rembrandt" project though?

Some guys taught a computer to paint like Rembrandt and came up with this:

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https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/i...er-172257/

Quote:In a fascinating merging of creativity and technology, the humans at J. Walter Thompson Amsterdam taught a computer to paint like Rembrandt by having it study the old master's works for months. The resulting painting is a completely new portrait, not a replica, and it's indistinguishable—to my eye, at least—from the real thing.

It's good and everything, but pretty generic, like those pictures that combine the best features from beautiful women all over the world into one picture.

Computer can learn technique but not the spark of creativity.

“That sig BTW is a very asinine anti-family anti-parent quote. You live in a country where 40% of children grow up without a biological father, yet somehow “the greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents”? Sorry but this is fruity Boomer nonsense.”

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President Trump holds the key to American prosperity for now and future generations. If you have a special place worth protecting you always require permission to enter. Weeds crawl the fence and seek to overrun the garden of our beautiful land. This metaphor is the perfect word for those who steal from the American people and choke out the prosperity and safety of the garden of our homeland. A weed cannot be tolerated long before it grows out of control and chokes out the true plant that bears fruit. The only plants that should be allowed in the garden are those which are selected, planted, nurtured, and are properly placed. Otherwise, the garden will fail. This is our home, our place of safety, our heritage. American interests are more important than special interests. As the sun sets on a former time of mindless liberal policies that make America unsafe and unprosperous, let us raise the wall and lock the gate to all who wish to come uninvited.

I love this man's descriptions as much as his paintings. The wording should be etched into the picture frame on a brass plate. Nearly brings a tear to my eye.

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Would love to shake this man's hand.

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