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Whatever happens with Kavanaugh, we have all lost thanks to the spineless members of congress for giving this credibility instead of pointing out the absurdity. There is a statue of limitations for a reason - it's called justice.

Now I understand the logic of the me-too movement. It gives the Democratic criminal party a new source of power to attack their opponents. A mere allegation from a woman (or one of the privileged classes) about an alleged incident that happened thirty-eight years ago has permanently damaged the reputation of a man who lived a spotless life for decades. Just an allegation - with zero proof. So, why should a man invest any energy into supporting such a system? Your whole life you worked for can go up in smoke in seconds based on a mere allegation.

The conservatives are not the answer, because their whole emphasis is to conservative their comfortable lives and privileges. That's why I call myself a traditionalist and not a conservative. Notice how Kavanaugh and his whore accuser both went to special elite prep schools. If you don't go the elite schools and universities, you don't get access to power in the United States. That's why they hate Trump because he was born on the wrong side of the tracks. Change will only come from the radical visionaries, but not until things get desperate enough.

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09-20-2018 11:33 PM
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^^^ They don't understand their hurt egos and shattered ideology are way more merciful than when the dollar collapses and civil war commences.
It's better to submit to Trump and deal with the hurt ego instead of the mass slaughter and chaos that will occur if this continues. Gated neighborhoods won't save them.
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(09-20-2018 11:33 PM)Sherman Wrote:  Whatever happens with Kavanaugh, we have all lost thanks to the spineless members of congress for giving this credibility instead of pointing out the absurdity. There is a statue of limitations for a reason - it's called justice.

Now I understand the logic of the me-too movement. It gives the Democratic criminal party a new source of power to attack their opponents. A mere allegation from a woman (or one of the privileged classes) about an alleged incident that happened thirty-eight years ago has permanently damaged the reputation of a man who lived a spotless life for decades. Just an allegation - with zero proof. So, why should a man invest any energy into supporting such a system? Your whole life you worked for can go up in smoke in seconds based on a mere allegation.

The conservatives are not the answer, because their whole emphasis is to conservative their comfortable lives and privileges. That's why I call myself a traditionalist and not a conservative. Notice how Kavanaugh and his whore accuser both went to special elite prep schools. If you don't go the elite schools and universities, you don't get access to power in the United States. That's why they hate Trump because he was born on the wrong side of the tracks. Change will only come from the radical visionaries, but not until things get desperate enough.

I love Trump as president, think he is successful so far, but sometimes wonder if we need our own Pinoche at this late stage of the cultural marxist game.
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(09-21-2018 12:52 AM)godfather dust Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 11:33 PM)Sherman Wrote:  Whatever happens with Kavanaugh, we have all lost thanks to the spineless members of congress for giving this credibility instead of pointing out the absurdity. There is a statue of limitations for a reason - it's called justice.

Now I understand the logic of the me-too movement. It gives the Democratic criminal party a new source of power to attack their opponents. A mere allegation from a woman (or one of the privileged classes) about an alleged incident that happened thirty-eight years ago has permanently damaged the reputation of a man who lived a spotless life for decades. Just an allegation - with zero proof. So, why should a man invest any energy into supporting such a system? Your whole life you worked for can go up in smoke in seconds based on a mere allegation.

The conservatives are not the answer, because their whole emphasis is to conservative their comfortable lives and privileges. That's why I call myself a traditionalist and not a conservative. Notice how Kavanaugh and his whore accuser both went to special elite prep schools. If you don't go the elite schools and universities, you don't get access to power in the United States. That's why they hate Trump because he was born on the wrong side of the tracks. Change will only come from the radical visionaries, but not until things get desperate enough.

I love Trump as president, think he is successful so far, but sometimes wonder if we need our own Pinoche at this late stage of the cultural marxist game.

At this stage you would need a Trump-Pinochet-emperor on steroids to clean up the shit:

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(09-20-2018 03:41 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Since when do women gladly confess being or having been drunken whores in their teens?

Hey, this is exactly what the MeToo movement is. It's women who are confessing to being drunken whores in their teens. They "confess" by accusing the guy of raping them. "I was a drunken whore" (sob) "but it wasn't my fault... it was rape".

Every single #MeToo accusation is an admission of whoring. In Bill Cosby's case, not only "whoring" but "extortion".

The MeToo movement is 100% driven by women who were drunken whores in the 1980s. They are now exorcising their guilt and reclaiming their virginity. To do that, they must somehow convince themselves that "it wasn't their fault". They weren't actually whores (say their twisted little minds) because it was RAPE. That is the hamster-on-steroids mental gymnastics they user to excuse their deep self-hatred.

For all these years I've been sitting back and waiting for women's slutty behavior in the 1980s (which I fully took advantage of, when I was a young man) to come back and bite them in the ass. I knew this day would come. But NEVER did I ever expect that they would dare to find a way to turn it around and make it men's fault...not only making it men's fault but hijacking the entire fucking American criminal justice system and media to destroy men en masse. I am gobsmacked by the sheer evil of it. Who could ever have invented something like this? And when men finally punch back, it's going to be even more terrifying.

Beyond anything else I've ever seen, the #MeToo movement and the false rape narrative show me, beyond any doubt, that women are genetically unable to be responsible voters. It's a tiny little bit of instinctive wiring, totally genetic, in the minds of women, that precludes them from voting properly. In the next 100 years, we either find a way for future societies to block women from voting, or we genetically engineer women to be more like men, or we continue with women's voting and the world collapses into a new dark age.
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(09-20-2018 11:33 PM)Sherman Wrote:  Whatever happens with Kavanaugh, we have all lost thanks to the spineless members of congress for giving this credibility instead of pointing out the absurdity. There is a statue of limitations for a reason - it's called justice.

Now I understand the logic of the me-too movement. It gives the Democratic criminal party a new source of power to attack their opponents. A mere allegation from a woman (or one of the privileged classes) about an alleged incident that happened thirty-eight years ago has permanently damaged the reputation of a man who lived a spotless life for decades. Just an allegation - with zero proof. So, why should a man invest any energy into supporting such a system? Your whole life you worked for can go up in smoke in seconds based on a mere allegation.

The conservatives are not the answer, because their whole emphasis is to conservative their comfortable lives and privileges. That's why I call myself a traditionalist and not a conservative. Notice how Kavanaugh and his whore accuser both went to special elite prep schools. If you don't go the elite schools and universities, you don't get access to power in the United States. That's why they hate Trump because he was born on the wrong side of the tracks. Change will only come from the radical visionaries, but not until things get desperate enough.

So, why should a man invest any energy into supporting such a system?

They shouldn't. Trump getting elected showed us that we don't owe the system, poor foreigners, immigrants, migrants, the entire population of women, and the US Gov anything. They only people to whom you or I owe anything are our nations, families, God, and the population at large with whom we share a common history. This isn't to say that we have any ill-will towards others who are not our enemies but they are not our responsibility. Basically I owe my family and people I like both literally as well as at large.

Don't cheat on your taxes but only because it's illegal and the benefits of trying to cheat pale in comparison to the pain you will feel if caught. You have no moral duty to the taxman nor anyone else who skims from them.

At this point, you don't even have a duty to join the military right now. I hate to say it but the US Military in the current year (and even going back several decades) is not your friend and you serve nefarious purposes that you or your fellow red-pilled Americans in no way benefit. Stay in shape and learn self-defense. That's how you can serve America as it currently stands.

If you don't go the elite schools and universities, you don't get access to power in the United States.

This isn't as true as it once was and I wouldn't use not having gone to elite prep schools and universities as a reason to not aspire to the upper rungs of power.

That's why they hate Trump because he was born on the wrong side of the tracks.

Trump is certainly not from the "wrong side of the tracks." He attended an elite military school and went to Penn (an Ivy League school). He doesn't have the sort of hyperWASP pedigree that many top-tier Americans have but he does have a significant family history in America. His pedigree is certainly of higher status than say the Clintons, definitely Obama, even Reagan. Obama is what would be considered "wrong side of the tracks" by most definitions.
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I really really hope Trump gets elected in 2020, only because we win another 4 years to prepares.

What and who comes after Trump will be a catastrophe. The more time I have the better to prepare.

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Con Law Prof at UC-Berkely, Steven Hayward, has picked up the Ed Whelen 'mistaken identity' theory at the right-wing blog Powerlineblog (as below)
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2...tity-2.php

This means that Friday talk-radio will be discussing this theroy today, at least - since many such personalities - Rush Limbaugh being the biggest (although he's taking this today off) - follow this outlet. Who knows how far it will break...?

I got to know Hayward while he taught at the Univerity of Colorado at Boulder, not many years ago (and since then because he visits Colorado once or twice a year). Since he highlights the Kavanaugh and Mr X similarity today at Powerlineblog, I'll share the recent photos here, too:
   

Kavanaugh on the left; Mr X on the right.

Maanwhile on Thursday night, The Bezo's owned Wash Post published a denial that Dr Ford could have confused the two above men:
Quote:Ford dismissed Whelan’s theory in a statement late Thursday: “I knew them both, and socialized with” the other classmate, Ford said, adding that she had once visited him in the hospital. “There is zero chance that I would confuse them.”

Republicans on Capitol Hill and White House officials immediately sought to distance themselves from Whelan’s claims and said they were not aware of his plans to identify the former classmate, now a middle school teacher, who could not be reached for comment and did not answer the door at his house Thursday night.

Whelan did not respond to requests for comment....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...4bc5fbfc22

(09-20-2018 10:15 PM)Orson Wrote:   the look-alike or Doppelganger theory of mistaken identity? Kavanaugh classmate and football team-member...did he do it?

Did Christine Ford mis-identify a real perp? I see that somebody else has caught on to Ed Whelan's tease, running throughout the day on Twitter and even at Politico.

Basically, that's the Whelan theory. And Tweets compiled at Zerohedge starts with the general house interior that Ford has claimed for her assault, and finds one house that fits - and was once the home of a man that looked like Kavanaugh back then and looks like him today!

A pithy comment sums-up the tight reasoning:
Quote:Start with the facts available in Christine's story. She says the house was near the Columbia Country Club. [Ed] Whelan gave the locations of the houses of all of the other people Christine claims were present. Christine gives the number of people present -- five -- (1) herself, (2) her female friend, (3) Mark Judge, (4) P.J. Smyth, and (5) __________.

Kavenaugh's family home was not close to the country club. But [Mr X]'s was.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-2...ry-emerges

INCREDIBLE? I'll leave it up to you to have a look - compare the portraits, POST them here, perhaps - but I'd say this is more than probably the case.

Well...HERE we go: Kavaunaugh and Mr X:
[Image: kav%20garrett.jpg?itok=bZycEWYc]

Here's Ed Whelan's Twitter comment:
"Folks who knew both Kavanaugh and [Mr x] in high school have commented on how much they resembled each other in appearance. Here are Kavanaugh and [Mr X] in their senior yearbook photos."

(I won't name the possible cad - I see no indication if he's been reached and questioned, yet.)

If so, the scheduled Senate hearing will collapse before or by Monday.

J'acuse, Dr Ford? --- YOU BE WRONG, bitch! WAY wrong! (I think is a pungent vernacular.)

HAVE A LOOK AND SHARE YOU OPINION HERE!

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(09-20-2018 05:34 PM)Adonis Wrote:  If you really want a mind fuck, read this Twitter thread


Per ZH, this is a former Scalia clerk. Means he is an accomplished lawyer. He wouldn't say this if he didn't have a basis for it. I wonder if its more than her yearbook entries.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-2...-next-week

I say Trump should flip the script on the Senator from China and subpoena the false-rape-accuser. Have her admit that it was all a con and set up a basis for a libel lawsuit. Then censure Feinstein for her conduct and boot her from the Committee. Her conduct is a disgrace to the political system, to women who have actually been assaulted, and to a sitting DC Circuit Justice.

WHo is the senator from China? Hirono?

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I see another case of mistaken identity here. It's this Christine Ford woman morphing into loony Asia Argento. After all, she (Christine) was the sexual predator on the campus, drunkenly harassing seventeen-years old boys.

So let's ask for all men who have been sexually harassed by Christine Ford when they were seventeen, at the prep-school, to come forward and press charges. For obviously, this unstable Christine drunkard female was, at the time, going from party to party in a most promiscuous way - and God knows how many underage young men she harassed or tried to sleep with. She is the real culprit here!

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^actual pic of the accuser in the 80s
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https://www.dangerous.com/49605/boy-13-a...legations/

Krugman was right - any bitch he spoke to 50 years ago could make up any allegations like in this case of a 13yo boy who was accused by multiple girls of sexual misconduct. Reason for this was a black avatar he used on Snapchat and the girls first bullied him to change it, because it's racist. The mothers of the girls seem to have coordinated the attack and multiple girls made fake #metoo allegations.

That bitch's statements in a sane world should have been discarded instantly and she should have been laughed out of the room. In fact - Kavanaugh should be able to sue her ass off, take all her possessions away for libel.
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What does the look-alike thesis do for Kavanaugh-Ford? I came across this pithy summation:

The argument has just changed from "slanderous accusation from a woman must be believed" to "evidence that you have the right culprit is needed". Well done.
"blue quasar" 7 hours ago, HERE
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/308115/#respond

Indeed, that's the situation now. Let's see how this unfolds until Monday.

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What skeletons does Krugman have in his closet?
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Our favourite president gave an interview to The Hill.

Quote:President Trump covered a range of topics in an extensive Oval Office interview on Tuesday with Hill.TV’s John Solomon and Buck Sexton.

Here is the extended conversation, which took place late Tuesday afternoon following the president’s press conference with Polish President Andrzej Duda.

The Hill has removed brief segments where the president went off the record or made personal observations unrelated to the interview.


ON DECLASSIFYING DOCUMENTS AND THE RUSSIA PROBE

Buck Sexton: Have you reviewed the memos yourself? What do you expect them to show, if so?

President Trump: I have not reviewed them. I have been asked by many people in Congress as you know to release them. I have watched commentators that I respect begging the president of the United States to release them. We’re sitting with one right here, we’re sitting with two, you’re right. More than once. And I have had many people ask me to release them. Not that I didn’t like the idea, but I wanted to wait. I wanted to see what, you know, where it was all going. And I think this whole, it’s a hoax. You know Gregg Jarrett wrote a book called the Russian Hoax. It actually is a hoax. I call it a witch hunt, but it’s a hoax. Beyond a witch hunt.


ON FBI EMPLOYEES PETER STRZOK AND LISA PAGE

President Trump: When you see the two lovers and you see their most recent texts come out. It is very, very sad for our country to look at that. When you see him talking about the leaks and then say, ‘No we were trying to stop leaks in the FBI,’ OK. That didn’t work out because the following day others came out. But when you see the one about ‘We have to get this while Andy is still there.’

In other words, Comey was a bad guy. He gets fired. They only have Andy left because they know they’re doing wrong. So, we have to get this while, Andy’s, you know the one I’m talking about John.

John Solomon: Yes absolutely, it came out this week.

President Trump: I thought that was terrible. And maybe I thought. And maybe it didn’t pertain to me as much, but the one where he said, ‘Great going Page, the story just hit’ something to that effect. You’ll quote it accurately, you know. But, and the other one I guess, Strzok, said ‘great going.’ And then he goes, ‘now I can go and essentially investigate them.’ In other words, he’ll go up to a door of some person and say, yeah pretext. And say, ‘hey this story just appeared, what’s going on.’ I mean, number one, how illegal is it. But number two, how low is it?

And he’s congratulating her just the way a lover would congratulate another. ‘Way to go Page,’ you know. The whole thing, and I thought that was disgraceful. I thought it was disgraceful and when you look at it, it all goes back to the insurance policy. One of the earlier ones because they thought [Hillary Clinton] was going to win, but just in case she didn’t win, we’re going to have an insurance policy, and what we have now is an insurance policy.

But it’s been totally discredited. Even Democrats agree, that it’s been discredited. They are not going to admit that, but it’s been totally discredited. And I think frankly more so by text than by documents. I think the texts, not only theirs, many others. So honestly Buck, I have been asked by so many people that I respect, please — the great Lou Dobbs, the great Sean Hannity, the wonderful, great Jeanine Pirro. (laughs)

No, she takes it so personally. And that’s not, let’s say they like me. But this is beyond liking me. They know that this is one of the great scandals in the history of our country. Because basically what they did, is they used Carter Page who nobody even knew, who I feel very badly for, I think he has been treated very badly. They used Carter Page as a foil in order to surveil a candidate for the presidency of the United States.

And if you think about it, I’ve been under investigation, even though they say I’m not under investigation and I’m not a target. You do know I’m not a target and I’m not under investigation. But, this has been going on from seven months prior to the election. And then you had, the appointment of Mueller, who’s highly conflicted. Highly conflicted.


ON THE EXISTENCE OF THE DEEP STATE

Buck Sexton: Mr. President, would you call this a deep state? People use that term.

President Trump: I don’t like to use it because it sounds so conspiratorial and believe it or not I’m really not a conspiratorial person. But I think it’s a sad day for our country.


ON ADDRESSING CONCERNS ABOUT FBI/DOJ CONDUCT IN RUSSIA PROBE

President Trump: I think that I hope to be able to put this up as one of my crowning achievements that I was able to do through the help of a lot of good people including you two, and all of the support we have. We have tremendous support by the way, to expose something that is truly a cancer in our country. When you look at the FBI, you know you have eight people or so fired now.

And what we’ve done is a great service to the country, really. You know, I hope, I hope to be able to call this one of, along with tax cuts and regulations, and all of the things I’ve done. You know you’ve been seeing, you probably saw the news conference I just did.

John Solomon: We did.

President Trump: We’re making great trade deals. In its own way, this might be the most important thing because this was corrupt. When you look at Bruce Ohr, whose wife was getting paid by people that did a totally phony deal. And they got a tremendous amount of money, the money.

I mean the millions of dollars. And how about [George] Papadopoulos who I didn’t know other than I sat with him for 15 minutes at a table, unfortunately, where they have a picture of this. I never even talked to the guy. I didn’t know who he was. And I didn’t know, one thing I will say about Carter Page. He never went around saying he knew me. He never went around saying the president is my best friend. They put him on some committee. Some person put him on some committee. They were both on the same committee.

And that was not a good committee for me, OK. (laughter) But they put him on the same committee and that was it. But he never went around talking about the president is my best friend. From day one he said, I never met the president. I didn’t know the president, but I was put on his committee. And I say that.

Buck Sexton: How much time has this taken up of your presidency by the way? The whole Russia thing.

President Trump: It takes a lot. Because if I don’t do it you know bad things can happen. I’ll give you one thing and Papadopoulos. I didn’t know him at all but once he, once he went public and I watched him, he was treated really badly. The guy with the tape recorder who got paid money.

I mean, he got paid a tremendous amount of money. I didn’t know the FBI had the right to pay somebody like that. I mean that’s. He got paid more than anybody at the FBI gets paid by a lot. Right?

Buck Sexton: I used to work at the CIA. I have some sense of what these guys get paid. (laughter)

President Trump: No, but you understand what they gave him. I mean I heard reports from $500,000 to $2 million.


ON POSSIBLE DISCIPLINE INSIDE THE FBI OR DOJ

John Solomon: Let me ask you, sir, if one of the issues is whether the FISA court’s been misled. If it’s later proven that people in the Justice Department misled the FISA court, are you prepared to take action against them in the Justice Department?

President Trump: Well, it looks to me like, just based on your reporting, that they’ve been misled. I mean, I don’t think we have to go much further than to say that they’ve been misled because the dossier is a phony deal and so much of what’s been done is just bad stuff.

Um, one of the things I’m disappointed in is that the judges in FISA didn’t, don’t seem to have done anything about it. I’m very disappointed in that. Now I may be wrong because as we sit here and talk maybe they’re, you know, maybe they’re well into it and we just don’t know that. Because I have purposely have not chosen not to get involved until just — all I want to do is be transparent. I could have fired everybody. I could’ve done many things. I’ve chosen not to do that. I don’t know if that’s wise or not wise, probably, you know, who knows?

John Solomon: History will tell us.

President Trump: Someday you’ll tell me if that was right (laughs) but um, so I’m very disappointed, unless they are doing it, that they have not taken very strong action, does that makes sense to you?

John Solomon: It does.

President Trump: Because they’ve been abused by reporters. They’ve been, I mean, the FISA court has been laughed at and scorned by what’s gone on here.

John Solomon: Without a doubt.

President Trump: And then you see 99.99 percent of the things get approved, it was supposed to be just the opposite I remember when they first started talking about the FISA court, you’ve learned a lot through what I’ve, you know, gone through. They were saying how tough it is to get to — then the report comes out like, 99.9 percent of the things that get in front of it, so they knew that and so they put fraudulent stuff in front of it.

John Solomon: So, would you be open to a reform of the FISA court after all you’ve experienced on your case?

President Trump: Well, I have to see what they’ve done, John, they might be working, they might be really deep into it, and I only hope that’s the case for the good of the country. Because they’re reading the same articles by you guys and by others. Even the other side knows how wrong this whole thing is. They just can’t write it. At some point I really believe they will. You know there’s Pulitzer Prizes here. Big ones. This is, somebody was saying last night, this is the big, oh, Maria Bartiromo, she said it so beautifully, did you see her on Sunday — she said, "This is maybe the greatest scandal in the history of our country."

And the fake news reporters will not pick it up. You can do something that’s monument shaking and they just don’t want to pick it up and at some point, you would think you would have to and it’s getting to a point where they’re starting to talk about it.


ON BRETT KAVANAUGH’S ACCUSER

Buck Sexton: Mr. President, I want to switch gears for a second, you’ve got this upcoming Senate hearing on Monday. Do you have any concerns about the credibility of the accuser here? Do you have any concerns about getting Kavanaugh through on schedule and if so, do you have a contingency plan in place?

President Trump: Can you give me an update because I just left the stage ... has she …

Buck Sexton: Do you have any concerns about the accuser’s credibility?

President Trump: Let me do this before I do that — has she agreed to testify yet?

John Solomon: Not yet, it’s still an open question as of four o’clock.

President Trump: It’s a very big thing, if she doesn’t. So, I have said right from the start and people have been very happy with what I’ve said that we have to let both sides speak, we have to take a look at his absolutely incredible record, a record like almost none other that I’ve seen. You know, between the schools, the intellect. You know I said yesterday, "not a blemish on his record." And you have to look at what she has to say. So, I don’t want to comment on her until I see her.

… The Democrats have had this letter for three months. They could have brought it up at the hearing during, you know, in course during the hearing. Dianne Feinstein knew all about it and if she knew about it that meant [Charles] Schumer knew about it. And every Democrat knew about it. This is no different than the Russian witch hunt, what they’ve done is they make up a lot of stuff and try and obstruct and resist.


ON INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY’S FAILURE TO ALERT HIM TO RUSSIA CONCERNS

President Trump: I’ve always said that the Russia hoax was an excuse for them losing the election. Even though actually, amazingly that started seven months before. That started when it looked like I may have a chance to win, OK? But see that didn’t do anything to me because I didn’t know about it.

One thing on that again, also, if they thought there was something with Russia, and I’m one of two people that are gonna be the president of the United States, they should have come to me and said, "Sir, you’re dealing with people that may have something to do with Russia. We want to let you know." And I’d say, "I’m sorry whoever it may be, you gotta go, sorry."

John Solomon: They never did that, did they?

President Trump: They never did it, no, they never did it. No, but wouldn’t you think they’d say hey, you know there’s two people that have a chance.

(There was a brief interruption in the interview.)

President Trump: They, they should have come to me and said "Hey, you know we have an obligation," like they did with Dianne Feinstein with her driver. You have somebody that is possibly a Chinese spy, now she had the guy for 20 years. But they notify her, they don’t investigate her. They notify her, and she immediately fires the guy. They certainly did it with Hillary Clinton. I mean what, that, that’s the other thing that people are so upset about.


ON SPECIAL COUNSEL ROBERT MUELLER’S TEAM

President Trump: It’s not only that it’s fraudulent what they did, it’s not only that you have the 17 angry Democrats, I mean look at these people. Look where they come from. [Andrew] Weissman, he was at Hillary Clinton’s thing going crazy, OK? I call it the funeral. You know, it started off as the party and ended up being the funeral. Going crazy. How can he possibly be allowed to do this? And how can you pick every single prosecutor as a Democrat? You would think even if you did have bad intentions, which he does, you would say let me get half and half, it’s actually more effective.

OK and as you know he has — Comey is his best friend. I had a very, very nasty business transaction with Bob Mueller, very nasty. You’ve heard about that, maybe. To me, that’s — plus he wanted to be head of the FBI. And I didn’t do that and the following day he’s appointed special counsel. Those are three, unbelievable. So, we have a nasty, business transaction. I’ll tell you what, if I’m in business and I have a nasty business transaction with somebody, a hostile business transaction, and then I become a judge and 10 years later I meet that guy in court, I would try and be neutral but probably you’re not able to be. He should be, he’s conflicted, out. Bob Mueller is totally conflicted.


ON FIRING James Comey

John Solomon: “There is something Rudy told me. Let’s see if you remember it. He said that he began advising you in November-December 2016 to get rid of Comey based on his behavior on the Clinton investigation and you held off and gave him a chance, but it really wasn’t about stopping Russia. It was about you didn't trust his judgment after seeing him in action. Is that an accurate statement?

President Trump: Yes, it’s accurate. If I did one mistake with Comey I should have fired him before I got here. I should have fired him the day I won the primaries. I should have fired him right after the convention. Say, ‘I don’t want that guy.’ Or at least fired him the first day on the job. If I did one mistake it was, you know, I, I really did fire him, you know I fired him a couple of months in, so it’s not like. But I would have been better off firing him or putting out a statement that I don’t him there when I get there.”

(Trump stopped the interview to make a private remark.)

This is on the record. Funny thing about Comey is that everybody hated Comey. The Democrats hated him far more than the Republicans until I announced that I was going to fire him. You go back — or that I did fire him. You go back and look at those statements. Podesta, I think, the day before said Comey should be fired. Schumer was just brutal. To show you how horrible and political it is, in fact naively, when I fired him, I said, ‘Finally I’m going to do something in a bipartisan way.’ I thought I would be popular for the Democrats. I actually thought that firing James Comey, they hated him more than anybody. And so did the Republicans, because the Republicans viewed him as letting [Clinton] get away with murder. They viewed him a different way, but the Democrats hated him even more than the Republicans. Until I fired him. And then they made a decision, and all together, I guarantee you Schumer called them all fast and say ‘We love Comey.’

But honestly when I did it, I didn’t do it for this reason, but when I did it, I really said this is one that’s gonna be really popular also with the Democrats. And you know what? They’re a bunch of phony obstructers and they all changed. The problem, the one thing they can’t do is get rid of all their statements they made the day before, meaning in the days before. Because they went for a long period of time just, the hatred for Comey was probably as great or greater than almost anybody by the Democrats, and now they act like he’s a saint. Although now they’re not acting that way.


ON ATTORNEY GENERAL Jeff Sessions

Buck Sexton: Mr. President, why haven’t you replaced your attorney general, given all the things you’ve said and everything else that’s come out about his actions, or inactions?

President Trump: I’m so sad over Jeff Sessions because he came to me. He was the first senator that endorsed me. And he wanted to be attorney general, and I didn’t see it. But he came very strongly he really wanted to be. And, I let him be.

And then he went through the nominating process and he did very poorly. I mean, he was mixed up and confused, and people that worked with him for, you know, a long time in the Senate were not nice to him, but he was giving very confusing answers. Answers that should have been easily answered. And that was a rough time for him, and he won by one vote, I believe. You know he won by just one vote.

(The interview was briefly interrupted.)

President Trump: He won by one vote, and it’s so sad what happened. Then he gets in and probably because of the experience that he had going through the nominating when somebody asked him the first question about Hillary Clinton or something he said ‘I recuse myself, I recuse myself.’ And now it turned out he didn’t have to recuse himself. Actually, the FBI reported shortly thereafter any reason for him to recuse himself. And it’s very sad what happened. In the meantime, I don’t have an attorney general. It’s very sad. I’m not happy at the border, I’m not happy with numerous things, not just this.

Buck Sexton: Are we going to get a wall Mr. President?

President Trump: OK, well, let me just finish this. We’ll see what happens, I mean, we’ll see what happens. A lot of people have asked me to do that. And I guess I study history, and I say I just want to leave things alone, but it was very unfair what he did. And my worst enemies, I mean, people that, you know, are on the other side of me, in a lot of ways including politically, have said that was a very unfair thing he did. You know, you’ve seen that, when he recused himself. So anyway, so, so we’ll see how it goes with Jeff. I’m very disappointed in Jeff. Very disappointed.


ON IMMIGRATION AND BUILDING THE WALL

President Trump: So, we have started the wall. We got 1.6 [billion dollars]. We got another 1.6. We’ve fixed a lot of existing, we’ve started an 80-mile stretch. The entire Democrat life is to try and make sure we don’t have a wall, not because we don’t need it because we do. But because that was a promise that I made, and they want to try to make sure I don’t deliver on that promise. And we have a majority of one in the Senate because we have the filibuster rule, which we shouldn’t, um, you can’t get 10 votes. In other words, Buck, we got a majority of one. We got to get to 60. So, 10 Democrats are controlling the Senate. We shouldn’t have the filibuster rule. The first thing that Chuck Schumer would do if he ever took control of the Senate is get rid of the filibuster rule. And for whatever reason and nobody can explain it, they just won’t do it. Which means we need to get nine more, Republicans. So, it’s very tough thing, even though we need it.

But I’ll be doing things over the next two weeks having to do with immigration, which I think you’ll be very impressed at. So, we are building the wall, I could build it — you know what I do best is build — I could build the whole thing in a year, but um, there was a picture that was sort of great. I wish I had it. I had a picture of where I was this weekend. They built this gorgeous wall where the plane went down in Pennsylvania. Shanksville. And I was there. I made the speech. And it’s sort of beautiful, what they did is incredible. They have a series of walls, I’m saying, "It’s like perfect." So, so we are pushing very hard. As you know we’ve gotten approved in the House but the Senate cannot get it approved. There are many things the Senate can’t approve, you know, including Kate’s law, including I could name many things. The problem is that with the filibuster rule they have to, they need 10 more Republicans elected. And I’m very opposed to that, but that’s the way it is.


ON THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS

John Solomon: Do you still feel good about a red wave? Do you think you could pull that off?

President Trump: I think this — we probably have the greatest economy in history, so they've tried many narratives with me. You know, I took that test when I got my last physical, and the doctor said that’s one of the highest scores we’ve ever seen. I did that not because I wanted but I did it, I was always good at testing. But if there’s anything great about me it’s stability, and I’m a good manager. Always been a good manager, but you know, I have a vision. And I had just beaten 17 — because it was actually 18, including Gilmore, just so you know. People say 17 but it was actually 18, you know he was the governor of Virginia, so it was 18. And I had just beaten 17 people including the Bush dynasty. I then beat the Hillary Clinton dynasty. You can's give me credit for Bernie Sanders and all because I was part of it, but you know. So I beat the Bush dynasty, the Clinton dynasty, 17 people, and I never left center stage once, you can check. I never left center stage meaning I had lead in republican primaries from day one. And I had, and I went through 14-12 debates, 12-debates before Hillary. And I never left center stage, and then they make up a thing, well, maybe he’s losing it, maybe. No, I, I would know that so fast.

By the way, when you start asking me questions maybe someday, and I say, ‘Hmm I don’t know those answers,’ I may say, ‘Well, it’s time to hang it up, OK?’ But the opposite, and I will say that the narrative, the different narratives, they’ve tried all different narratives. They’ve tried that, they tried, ‘he’s a dictator, he’s a fascist.’ One of them did, one of them did, ‘he’s losing it,’ and the next week they went into, ‘He’s the most brilliant mind. He’s taking over the country. He’s a fascist, he’s a dictator, and he’s gonna make the eight years into life.’ OK.

I said wait a minute, last week, I was incompetent and now, I’m, you know, taking over the world. OK? It’s incredible. It’s sick.
But, the various narratives that they do are just so bad, they’re just so bad for the country. It’s just really so bad. And they’re such opposites in a sense. Like, if you take insurance they want single payer, which can’t be afforded, and we want really great health care where people get a great price. You know, really great stuff where people get a great price. I mean there are such differences, I could go on, on almost every subject. So, it’s hard to bring everyone together unless there’s a, maybe very large national problem, which we don’t want. Maybe that brings people together, like it did for about a day with the World Trade Center, you know.

And by the way the worst single mistake ever made in the history of our country — going into the Middle East by President Bush. Obama may have gotten ‘em out wrong, but going in is to me the biggest single mistake made in the history of our country. Because we spent $7 trillion in the Middle East. Now if you wanna fix a window some place they say, “oh jee, let’s not do it. $7 trillion and millions of lives — you know, ‘cause I like to count both sides. Millions of lives.

To me is the worst single mistake made in the history of our country. Civil war you can understand. Civil war, civil war. That’s different. For us to have gone into the Middle East, and that was just, that was a bad day for this country, I will tell you.

John Solomon: How do you convince people not to vote Democrat? What’s your argument to say, keep Republicans in charge?

President Trump: By the way, to finish that, I think we’re going to do much better than anyone thinks because the economy is so good, and people do like the job I’m doing. You know, they like the job, and to finish it off with just a little extra, when people say, you know, there’s a lot of action going on, I’m going through an illegal witch hunt. If I didn’t have that, you asked me a very good question before, do you spend much time on it? You have to spend time on it. I’m not supposed to be spending time on it. You know, part of this whole thing is that I’m not supposed to be spending any time on it. But I am.

Despite that, I think I’ve done more than any president in history. If you look at the things we have done, with the tax cuts, and all of the things that we’ve done, including hopefully now two Supreme Court justices, we’ll have more judges put on than any other president other than one. Do you know who the one is? George Washington. Percentage-wise. I’ll have more than him, too, but percentage-wise (laughs).

I said that the other, you know I have 145 [federal judges], plus hopefully two Supreme Court judges. And that’s assuming nobody leaves the bench which they will over the next period of time. It’ll be number one. I outta say, "Who has highest percentage of federal judges." They say, "you do." I’ll say "no, no. I got killed." They said "who?" George Washington because he appointed a hundred percent of the judges."

So, Buck, I have, in addition to what I’m doing, I have this thing which I wanna run. I wanna manage, but this was used as an excuse, even though it actually started long before I won. You know, and we only found that out through the texts. This was a hoax before. But the Democrats used this as an excuse for having lost the election, when the Electoral College is totally their way. I mean, I had to run the entire East Coast, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Pennsylvania. I had to win places that haven’t been won in years. I won Wisconsin. I won Michigan. I had to run states that nobody thought were possible to do, except me, and some people and some pollsters, and some good pollsters. Rasmussen was very good I have to tell you. So, you know, we’re really happy with the job. And just in finishing I was just gonna say that, so they like to say, chaos in the White House. You’re here. It’s running so beautifully. And except for the one area that you asked me about before, Mike Pompeo is a star, everyone of my Cabinet members is doing great. I just have one group that’s not been good. You know what that group is.
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What Google has been doing for China is treason. These people need to be hung. Seriously.
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(09-21-2018 02:43 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  I really really hope Trump gets elected in 2020, only because we win another 4 years to prepares.

What and who comes after Trump will be a catastrophe. The more time I have the better to prepare.

Just to play devil's advocate why do people think post Trump will be a disaster? Is he not stacking the courts in conservatives' favor (playing the long term game)? There's always Jim Jordan right? FYI I think he'll win 2020 and there's a 0% of him getting assassinated. In the latter case it probably would kickstart civil war.

On the other hand, the GOP has shown itself unwilling to help the average joe and beyond Jim Jordan I don't see anyone competent or trust them.
Pence: Koch brothers goon.
Trump Jr: Ok but Sr will always be better unless he gets a serious leg up from his dad. Could be why he's with that Latina.

And yes socialism is on the rise.

Still, wouldn't hurt to be proactive and stockpile money if leaving or other items and valuable connections if staying in America. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

(09-21-2018 09:31 AM)kosko Wrote:  For the folks who stay ignorant and hating and not improving their situation during these Trump years, it will be bleak and cold once the good times stop.
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Mr. X thing has some legs form simple social dynamics. Who do you think a dumb HS blondie named Ms. Ford is going to go shack up with, the (likely) nerdy Kavanaugh, or The Chad HS jock Mr. X?

Think about who got their fingers sticky at these types of parties when you were in HS. You add in the motive of Kavanaugh's parents fucking over Ford's Mom and the delusional choice patterns of female selective memory, and it is easy to paint a picture of where Ford "willed" her mind to think it was Kavanaugh versus Mr. X.

We have all seen first hand how women can make up reality, some of the stuff they remember or say they remember is way off base. The perfect way to test this is for any dudes in relationships to ask your girl to describe how you both met; it will be wildly different than the more accurate details of that you have in mind.

(09-21-2018 08:54 AM)ChicagoFire Wrote:  
(09-21-2018 02:43 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  I really really hope Trump gets elected in 2020, only because we win another 4 years to prepares.

What and who comes after Trump will be a catastrophe. The more time I have the better to prepare.

Just to play devil's advocate why do people think post Trump will be a disaster? Is he not stacking the courts in conservatives' favor (playing the long term game)? There's always Jim Jordan right? FYI I think he'll win 2020 and there's a 0% of him getting assassinated. In the latter case it probably would kickstart civil war.

On the other hand, the GOP has shown itself unwilling to help the average joe and beyond Jim Jordan I don't see anyone competent or trust them.
Pence: Koch brothers goon.
Trump Jr: Ok but Sr will always be better unless he gets a serious leg up from his dad. Could be why he's with that Latina.

And yes socialism is on the rise.

Still, wouldn't hurt to be proactive and stockpile money if leaving or other items and valuable connections if staying in America. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

There was an RVF post, maybe by Samseau or TK in detailing how all Trump is doing is offering everyone time. The correction and collapse are cooked in and is not avoidable but instead of coming like a brick to the face it will be a slow boil but Trump is giving everyone time to get head and get ready. For the folks who stay ignorant and hating and not improving their situation during these Trump years, it will be bleak and cold once the good times stop.
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(09-20-2018 11:33 PM)Sherman Wrote:  Whatever happens with Kavanaugh, we have all lost thanks to the spineless members of congress for giving this credibility instead of pointing out the absurdity. There is a statue of limitations for a reason - it's called justice.

Now I understand the logic of the me-too movement. It gives the Democratic criminal party a new source of power to attack their opponents. A mere allegation from a woman (or one of the privileged classes) about an alleged incident that happened thirty-eight years ago has permanently damaged the reputation of a man who lived a spotless life for decades. Just an allegation - with zero proof. So, why should a man invest any energy into supporting such a system? Your whole life you worked for can go up in smoke in seconds based on a mere allegation.

The conservatives are not the answer, because their whole emphasis is to conservative their comfortable lives and privileges. That's why I call myself a traditionalist and not a conservative. Notice how Kavanaugh and his whore accuser both went to special elite prep schools. If you don't go the elite schools and universities, you don't get access to power in the United States. That's why they hate Trump because he was born on the wrong side of the tracks. Change will only come from the radical visionaries, but not until things get desperate enough.

Actually, in Maryland there is no statute of limitations for a felony sexual offense in a criminal case (as opposed to civil case). Here is a source, but local talk radio has repeated this point over and over these past few days.

One local talk show host is saying that if this happened, the local police should step in and investigate. This is their jurisdiction, not a case for the FBI.

If it were me being accused and I was innocent, I would want my name cleared. I'd call in the cops to investigate everyone who is supposedly involved. Then again, so much is politically driven these days, it might not even matter. Or it might backfire. You could get 50 DNA reports and people would still scream "bias!"
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^ if I’m a suspect in a felony investigation the last thing I’m going to do is call the cops to investigate . You have the right to remain silent. Use it.

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I saw this clip last night. Our allies are concerned about the document release. I’m guessing he’s talking about UK and Australia. Those fuckers were spying on a candidate for USA president (Trump) and trying to undermine him. Foreign meddling in the elections. And now they don’t want to be embarrassed? Fuck them Mr President, expose them.




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(09-21-2018 09:47 AM)eradicator Wrote:  ^ if I’m a suspect in a felony investigation the last thing I’m going to do is call the cops to investigate . You have the right to remain silent. Use it.

Don't wanna derail the thread BUT..

When a girl in my work in the UK tried to allege that I had 'assaulted her' (she was 22, I was 40, her friends were scandalised that she got with me) - "I had got her too drunk and taken advantage of her in a helpless state"- She didn't tell anyone officially, just told everyone unofficially.

I pretty much called the cops on myself.

Told them where I had been in the nightclub, that my expensive jacket had been stolen there, can they check the CCTV?
Also, it is alleged that I took advantage of this comatose girl in that spot, can you have a look at the footage?

They were confused by that, but they watched the footage - said they could see me and the girl but they couldn't see my jacket being lifted nor 'any other suspicious activity'.

Get in.

Took that back to my workplace, my bosses.. Go Fuck Yourselves Rumour Mongers

As for Kavanaugh, the Right is exercising self control - there is nothing there except for the chance for the Dems to pounce on a slip by the republicans. The GOP keeps its cool - this will blow over.

Also:

Sherman: "Now I understand the logic of the me-too movement. It gives the Democratic criminal party a new source of power to attack their opponents. A mere allegation from a woman (or one of the privileged classes) about an alleged incident that happened thirty-eight years ago has permanently damaged the reputation of a man who lived a spotless life for decades. Just an allegation - with zero proof. "

It was also a brilliant pivot - Clinton Streep Oprah = all of them enabling the abuse of women by Weinstein. Misdirect / distract by creating a "worldwide movement" for gullible women to get worked up about in order to get the heat off them.

#MeToo? Hashtag #WeKnew ..

Also: Yes, speaking as a Brit the UK Deep state are a bunch of insecure try hards who would push their own grandmothers into traffic if it helped them to feel a bit more potent and a bit more important on the world stage.
Fuck those qunts, fuck them.
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(09-21-2018 09:31 AM)kosko Wrote:  Mr. X thing has some legs form simple social dynamics. Who do you think a dumb HS blondie named Ms. Ford is going to go shack up with, the (likely) nerdy Kavanaugh, or The Chad HS jock Mr. X?

Think about who got their fingers sticky at these types of parties when you were in HS. You add in the motive of Kavanaugh's parents fucking over Ford's Mom and the delusional choice patterns of female selective memory, and it is easy to paint a picture of where Ford "willed" her mind to think it was Kavanaugh versus Mr. X.

We have all seen first hand how women can make up reality, some of the stuff they remember or say they remember is way off base. The perfect way to test this is for any dudes in relationships to ask your girl to describe how you both met. It will be wildly different than what you have in mind, and which is more accurate.

(09-21-2018 08:54 AM)ChicagoFire Wrote:  
(09-21-2018 02:43 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  I really really hope Trump gets elected in 2020, only because we win another 4 years to prepares.

What and who comes after Trump will be a catastrophe. The more time I have the better to prepare.

Just to play devil's advocate why do people think post Trump will be a disaster? Is he not stacking the courts in conservatives' favor (playing the long term game)? There's always Jim Jordan right? FYI I think he'll win 2020 and there's a 0% of him getting assassinated. In the latter case it probably would kickstart civil war.

On the other hand, the GOP has shown itself unwilling to help the average joe and beyond Jim Jordan I don't see anyone competent or trust them.
Pence: Koch brothers goon.
Trump Jr: Ok but Sr will always be better unless he gets a serious leg up from his dad. Could be why he's with that Latina.

And yes socialism is on the rise.

Still, wouldn't hurt to be proactive and stockpile money if leaving or other items and valuable connections if staying in America. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

There was an RVF post, maybe by Samseau or TK in detailing how all Trump is doing is offering everyone time. The correction and collapse are cooked and is not avoidable but instead of coming like a break it will be a slow boil but Trump is giving everyone time to get head and get ready. For the folks who stay ignorant and hating and not improving their situation during these Trump years, it will be bleak and cold once the good times stop.

Yes and No.

There is a chance. Yes, a chance, that Trump can reset the empire clock back, in the form of making a new era/empire.

If you look at the Roman Empire, the ~246 year max rule for empire before they could collapse, a few different times. Augustus, Trajan, etc. There are quite a few examples the more that I think about it. The Roman Empire was 600-ish years old. Technically speaking they should have had at least 3 collapses, which you could argue that it did happen, but they managed to recover them until it was not recoverable.

After Trump we actually have a few guys that are solid as fuck, unlike the Democrats. All they have are celebrities like Dwayne Johnson. Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, are just the top two. Our bench is stronger than the Dem's main team. We have Trey Gowdy and others. With the exception of Jim and Matt, the rest are Trump-Lite for now, but that is better than what the other side has.

As for guys like Hypno and others suggesting that Trump do anything or go prosecute the bitch, etc. Just stop guys. Trump cannot do those things for the millionth time. That's outside the power the constitution grants him. Just let the process flow. It's messy for a reason. Why do you think Socrates disliked democracy? He knew it's weakness was the standards of education of the voters and that it made dumb people dumber.

Give a fool enough rope and they will always wring their own neck. The trolls on the forum, Nasa Test Pilot, Dragan, the pedo whose name I forgot, etc. all these guys hung themselves with only a little bit of work from us. Their arrogance and hubris was their downfall. Same thing with the Democrats. Their have grossly overplayed their own hand. Grassley and others are old enough and wise enough to notice this. They will maintain a fair process knowing that no matter what they are going to win, so why not get free political ad material? THEN after this circus is over, use the same footage to constantly remind voters of what the liberals did, in the form of ads, over and over.

American Politics is a game. ABC. Always Be Campaigning. You are never out of campaign mode. If your opponents are making massive mistakes, let em do it and use it for TV, internet, and radio advertisements.

Anyway as far as what Trump can do permanently to reset the clock for a while, is to shift American Politics to the right, so much so that the Democrat party would have to shift or stay dead or irrelevant for two decades possibly. They are likely stubborn enough to do that, but their base will make them get more radical as a reaction while shrinking in size. If they let pollsters and political scientists figure that out for them, they will shift more to the right and give up certain platforms until later.

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(09-21-2018 10:03 AM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  

(09-21-2018 10:28 AM)Dusty Wrote:  I saw this clip last night. Our allies are concerned about the document release. I’m guessing he’s talking about UK and Australia. Those fuckers were spying on a candidate for USA president (Trump) and trying to undermine him. Foreign meddling in the elections. And now they don’t want to be embarrassed? Fuck them Mr President, expose them.


Looks like we are going to wind up with redactions now. That stinks. The OIG is not going to help the public at all.

We really need transparancy for two very good reasons:

1. The citizens of the UK and AUS, can hold their own governments accountable.

2. This is how we can stay friends with them. Being upfront and honest with each other as similar countries with English based legal systems, that are supposed to be bastions of Freedom of Speech....tard

Trump gave it his best shot, but his entire cabinet is in full revolt over mere technicalities.

Trey Gowdy said last night nothing would hurt information and sources, just sheer embarrassment on the FBI and DOJ's behalf. He said embarrassment is not an excuse to classify something. I agree 100%. You cannot "fix" the embarrassing issue if the public does not know about it to begin with.

They can redact the "allies" all they want. We will figure it out sooner or later who it is/was. In the end this hurts them alot more than it hurts us as a country. They need more assistance to get the cucks out of their government that is hell bent on turning it into a caliphate or a shithole. Both probably. Besides fair is fair. They interfered with our elections, we should let their opponents have ammunition for their next one.

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Could be a negotiating tactic.

Agree to redact UK/Australian bad faith spying efforts in to get something else from them in trade/etc.

While everyone still knows what they did.

Most Americans care far more about our institutions being corrupt than foreign institutions.
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