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Stay or not in a stable Job?
To cut the story short, I am brazilian and I work in the public service. I've passed in a test and they called me in. In this job, I cant be fired unless i Kill someone (Yes, its not easy to be fired in the public service here), so I am protected against bad economic mood in companies.

But there is a bad side: My wage only rises 3% a year, and to earn more than that its pretty hard. I earn enough to fullfil my monthly needs, but not to SAVE a sufficient amount of money in the end of the month (Basically nothing). With this job I am in my comfort zone, live near my parents and my friends.

But a Company also called me in past week to work in an area that meets what I am studying at university, and my wage would be a little bit higher, I would have to spend less on transportation and food and as a result I would save much more in the end of the month, plus chance to get a raise if I do a good job, thing that I cant have on public service. This Job is in another city, so I would live far from family and friends.

I am living a comfortable life, near people that I like, not going much good with woman because i am still in the beggining stage of game, but not saving enough money to trips etc and I have to rely on my parents for money sometimes, but I cant be fired, so I have job for good. If I change to that company, there is a chance of me being fired in the first month, wasting this permanent job, but there are the good things that I have said before.

What Would you do? This decision is killing my sleep for days. I am 22 YO.
(This post was last modified: 02-19-2019 08:36 AM by Jhon_travolta.)
02-19-2019 08:34 AM
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RE: Stay or not in a stable Job?
What good is stability is that means only having enough for your monthly needs with no savings left over?

Also, what if political and economic conditions change such that your government job barely provides enough to live on? Is it really impossible to loose this job?

You are 22 years old. Now is the time to take risks and push yourself outside your comfort zone. Taking risks will also make risk taking feel more normal, setting you up to take more and better risks in your career. If you were 40 years old with savings built up, I would say the government job sounds like good security.
02-19-2019 08:02 PM
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RE: Stay or not in a stable Job?
try to spend your free time on additional activities - hobby or investment in order not to lose everything if something goes wrong
02-20-2019 09:28 AM
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RE: Stay or not in a stable Job?
I always think taking the risk for higher rewards is the way to go in life.

Back yourself, your ability to get more and live an extraordinary life.

Wasting your life in a numb, boring safe routine is not the way of a real man.
02-20-2019 05:10 PM
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RE: Stay or not in a stable Job?
If you are 22 bottom line is that you should be taking risks that you would not take at say, 30 or 40.

Although you have a special situation because you're in a country where it's tougher to make a good living, and the public sector may in fact be quite nice.

Stability is great though. Can you come back to the public sector later though?

Don't hesitate at all to take some risks, travel, and really grind things out. You're only young once.
02-20-2019 05:52 PM
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RE: Stay or not in a stable Job?
I've walked out of two really stable university jobs and I had a chaotic life for years after I did so.

On the plus side, chaos is interesting.

I don't know what to recommend really.

Start some side hustles though, and read up on compound interest. Now everything I've ever made from my side hustles is compounding at 8.2%. Imagine if I'd have started doing this at 22.

Stuff I've seen on my travels...
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02-20-2019 09:08 PM
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RE: Stay or not in a stable Job?
It's hard to say without knowing more...

+ What's the chance you could find a higher paying job in your current city?
+ Is there actually a risk of being fired in the first month? For people entering in your position, what are their outcomes usually like? Do they stay in the job for years, do they move to other companies, do they get fired, etc.?
+ How much more would you be able to save?
02-20-2019 10:32 PM
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RE: Stay or not in a stable Job?
I can only give you general advice without knowing more (and not knowing much about Brazil), but I have worked in the public and private sectors and here's what I'd consider:

- What are your priorities? Does the public sector job give you more time to pursue your passions/hobbies or start a business?
- Comfort zones generally lead to stagnation and lack of fulfillment (at least when young)
- Family and friends and important; leaving them for an extended period has its drawbacks, but you will likely make new friends quickly in a new city. Your happiness and social life might improve or you might miss family and friends. This is probably the only thing that could stop me from going on the adventure if I were you. What's the other city like?

At 22, if you are at all ambitious and confident then you will not be happy playing it safe while you are young and don't test your potential. But, it does depend on job market over there and how many opportunities are around for your skills. I agree with the other posts that you will appreciate and value the stability more when 35-40+, and the excitement and life experience more when young.
(This post was last modified: 02-21-2019 06:05 AM by Pangloss.)
02-21-2019 05:57 AM
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RE: Stay or not in a stable Job?
(02-20-2019 10:32 PM)josn123 Wrote:  It's hard to say without knowing more...

+ What's the chance you could find a higher paying job in your current city?
+ Is there actually a risk of being fired in the first month? For people entering in your position, what are their outcomes usually like? Do they stay in the job for years, do they move to other companies, do they get fired, etc.?
+ How much more would you be able to save?

I am closely watching all the recomendations, I appreciate that.
- My current city is small, hard to find a place here other than the public service.
- Being fired in the first month is force of expression, u know how private sector is, my energy will be drained on the job, not that it is a bad thing though. The company is kinda big, I could be very successful or a failure. My current job is kinda slow and almost nobody pushes me.
- Would be able to save almost the double of what I save now.
02-21-2019 06:20 AM
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RE: Stay or not in a stable Job?
(02-20-2019 05:52 PM)Heuristics Wrote:  If you are 22 bottom line is that you should be taking risks that you would not take at say, 30 or 40.

Although you have a special situation because you're in a country where it's tougher to make a good living, and the public sector may in fact be quite nice.

Stability is great though. Can you come back to the public sector later though?

Don't hesitate at all to take some risks, travel, and really grind things out. You're only young once.

Tough to come back. I would need to make another test when the government makes it available and be like top 5 among hundreds.

The other city is very big, and u know how safety is in Brazil, not that good. My current city is small and peaceful. But with that comes the bad side: no future here and no girls. The big city has tons of hot girls that u would say u are on paradise.
02-21-2019 06:32 AM
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RE: Stay or not in a stable Job?
(02-21-2019 05:57 AM)Pangloss Wrote:  I can only give you general advice without knowing more (and not knowing much about Brazil), but I have worked in the public and private sectors and here's what I'd consider:

- What are your priorities? Does the public sector job give you more time to pursue your passions/hobbies or start a business?
- Comfort zones generally lead to stagnation and lack of fulfillment (at least when young)
- Family and friends and important; leaving them for an extended period has its drawbacks, but you will likely make new friends quickly in a new city. Your happiness and social life might improve or you might miss family and friends. This is probably the only thing that could stop me from going on the adventure if I were you. What's the other city like?

At 22, if you are at all ambitious and confident then you will not be happy playing it safe while you are young and don't test your potential. But, it does depend on job market over there and how many opportunities are around for your skills. I agree with the other posts that you will appreciate and value the stability more when 35-40+, and the excitement and life experience more when young.

I could come back every weekend to meet family and friends though. Its not THAT far.
The other city is huge, so tons of companies and opportunities are there.
02-21-2019 06:41 AM
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RE: Stay or not in a stable Job?
I'm in a somewhat similar situation - tremendously secure job, but limited potential and subpar logistics. It's more difficult for me to make a move as I'm already in my 40s and have various obligations. In your case, being a young guy, I think you should definitely be willing to take some risks, as long as you are fairly confident you have what it takes to succeed in an alternative career.
02-21-2019 12:38 PM
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RE: Stay or not in a stable Job?
If you travel in your late teens and get a decent job by post uni mid 20s, you may, like many of us, have spent years decompressing always craving the road. Women. Freedom. I battled until my mid 30s with it before I threw myself into the mud. Mortgage. Worked my arse off. 30k overpayment on mortgage. Now I have a good car. £1000 or so left a month after spending and whatever I want. Do 4 or 5 mini breaks a year. Kiev etc. Live the dream of my youth. But having a house is the one thing I wish I did 10 years earlier. My advice is to work and get on the ladder early. Then if you want to shoot off teaching esl or whatever, you have that asset.
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