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One quick glimpse into this guy's mentality, from 2011:

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/na...cbdfb1b90d

Quote:In 2011, then a 20-year-old ­fitness trainer, Tarrant posted about how his life was transformed by the death of his father a year earlier.

Ironically, he had shown concern about whether he could ­honour his father’s legacy. “Recently came into contact with a bit of capital due to the passing away of my father,” he posted on a stock forum in 2011. “Really don’t want to lose the money as he paid for it with 30+ years of his life.”

But Tarrant bragged that he was a man of confidence, in a post about a month later.

“Truthfully I am extremely confident in every situation but talking over the phone,” he said in the same post. “I run fitness classes with 20+ people daily who do nothing but stare/ask questions and mimic my movements for 60mins and I enjoy it.

“My self respect is through the roof, I can truly do anything I put my mind to.”

He spoke of the things he really wanted to do — “playing video games, snorting coke and hiring strippers” — and described himself as “the strongest person [pound for pound] in my town”.

...not...a...lot...going...on. Cookie cutter young guy with a lot of energy, no goals, and a sketchy attention span.

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He claims in the manifesto, in summary, that he used rifles in order to advance the gun control narrative in the US. He sees the eventual armed conflict over the 2nd amendment as something that will end globalization. I'm predicting we will never see that fact in the media. It might be enough to bury this story in the US rather quickly.

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(03-15-2019 12:51 PM)vinman Wrote:  His intention was for their to be an overreaction and and ignite the culture war.




Supposedly the killer is trying to ignite a culture war into a real war...?

So by not mentioning Jews, does he believe he can avoid distractions? What would the point of that be?

I'm still not buying any of the story as it is presented.

Either false-flag or a suicidal man who wanted to cause maximum harm to everyone before he committed suicide... but why did he show his face? He is a dead man walking.

So, it doesn't look like he's interested in winning a war. Just a miserable, evil, lonely fuck who wanted to put as much suffering onto the world and make it feel his pain?

Again, none of it makes sense. Not the motive, nor the strategy involved... just as much bullshit as the Vegas shooting.

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(03-15-2019 11:10 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  Muslims kill random people and the media wonders how white people caused them to become radicalized. Guarantee the reporting only will focus on - Guns and white people are bad.

It's a scary day when white people become as radicalized as Muslims.

I heard an NPR news report about it on the radio this morning. The reporter asked multiple times about what was in the shooters manifesto. The NZ official kept dodging the question only describing the manifesto as "illogical and rambling". As well as claiming that the contents of the manifesto "had nothing to do with the attack"; without revealing what the shooter wrote. I read the manifesto expecting to see some crazy shit similar to what Elliot Roger posted. Nope! The shooters motives were completely rational. Whether or not you agree with his tactics are another matter.

What comes around goes around. Muslims have been on a rampage murdering random civilians in the west and around the globe. Not to mention routinely raping western women with the silent blessing of western governments for decades. Yet when a western man gets fed up and punches back in a similar manner he's the monster. Yeah ok... whatever you say. For legal reasons I won't condone unlawful violence.

However, western governments aren't doing their job to protect their citizens against foreigners and their progeny who are openly hostile to us. Instead they open the floodgates to low iq migrants from the 3rd world for cheap labor. So no one should be surprised when citizens become radicalized and attempt to take things into their own hands.

Incidentally, I wonder how many leaders of majority Islamic countries are going to start wringing their hands in the aftermath of this attack and start preaching to muslims about how people shouldn't blame Christians for the attack. Or how Christianity is: "the religion of peace".

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RE: Shooting at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand 2019
She changed it to "private"

https://archive.fo/uoWtt

Well they're paying the bystanders at least.

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RE: Shooting at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand 2019
What I don't understand is....why New Zealand?

Their population is 1.18% Muslim ... there are more Buddhist and Hindus in NZ than Muslims. Also, there hasn't been much (if any?) Islamic terror attacks there.

In his actual homeland, Australia, however...muslim population is 2.6% and there have been incidents of muslim inspired terror attacks.

So this guy takes a plane to go to a random New Zealandish city with a Christian name and population like Lublin, not even big ones like Wellington, Queenstown or Auckland to basically massacre these poor victims.

I mean, if he so raged about muslim migrants....why is he slaughtering them in a country with fewer Muslims than Buddhists and no previous history Islamic attacks....when in his own country there has been a lot more history of conflict with Islam and Islamic migrants?
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Can anyone verify if the below information/screenshots from twitter/facebook/instagram is real or fake ?
Alleged shooter supposedly hates muslims, but apparently visited pakistan 5 months ago, and posted online about how great it is ??!!



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Quote:Can anyone verify if the below info from twitter/facebook/instagram & related information is real or just a fake ?
Alleged shooter supposedly hates muslims, but apparently visited pakistan 5 months ago, and talked about how great it is ??!!


Read his manifesto. He doesn't hate muslims practicing Islam in their own countries. He's an ethno-nationalist who is concerned about western white populations being extinguished due to massive immigration and low birthrates.

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(03-15-2019 02:24 PM)mpr Wrote:  Read his manifesto.


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Official news source ABC in Australia saying alleged shooter also visited north korea.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-15/c...w/10904744


Trips to pakistan AND north korea ??
This stinks of alphabet soup agencies.
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(03-15-2019 01:59 PM)Syberpunk Wrote:  She changed it to "private"

https://archive.fo/uoWtt

Well they're paying the bystanders at least.

What are they odds they interview an actor? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mYqLE94i58 What are the odds she changes her profile to "private" upon this happening?

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(03-15-2019 02:16 PM)Caduceus Wrote:  Can anyone verify if the below information/screenshots from twitter/facebook/instagram is real or fake ?

So why does it say "Israr Osho Thang" in the top right corner and then it says "Iam Brenton Tarrant"?
Where did this Twitter guy this image from, seems like he didn't mention where.

We can start there.
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(03-15-2019 11:02 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  [quote='NewMeta' pid='1952607' dateline='1552660099']
Has to be said but there is so much comedy gold in his manifesto, my favorite parts:

"I worked for a short time before making some money investing in
Bitconnect, then used the money from the investment to travel."

[SNIP!]

"Is there a particular person that radicalized you the most?
Yes, the person that has influenced me above all was Candace Owens. Each time she spoke I was stunned by her insights and her own views
helped push me further and further into the belief of violence over
meekness.
Though I will have to disavow some of her beliefs, the
extreme actions she calls for are too much, even for my tastes. "

[SNIP!]

Candace Owens has nothing to do with far right ideology. If anything she is still a black woman and is slightly right of center. Pewdiepie is just a gamer who recently got redpilled on European Immigration stuff and is now making memes about it. Correct me if I am wrong, but he does not actually advocate violence in any way or fashion?

[SMIP!]

The only thing this idiot did not do was list out Ben Shapiro, Vox, Black Pigeon, etc.e etc. Either way singling out Candace is just fucking odd. She probably feels pretty shitty right now. That's like someone going on a killing spree and listing me as their inspiration instead of Leonard, or the others similar to him here. I would be super fucking salty about that, won't even lie.

He found inspiration and courage to buck the tide of conformism from Candace Owens. She is an exemplar of independent thinking.

For example, once she said that the media worshipped Trump. Now they are trashing him - why? The dissonance caused her to re-think the dominant narrative.

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"it is quite like a zero-sum game that happens between civilizations."

This. I think some people here in their thirst for a return to masculinity ae kind of looking forward to some sort of Mad Max scenario where violence and aggression serves a purpose to protect the tribe. Certainly all the #MeToo stuff will go out the window instantly, but the cure would be worse than the disease.

It's kind of like back in the 80s when I was a kid life was so cushy in the suburbs I fantasized about hack and slash heavy metal fantasy. Danger and the threat of death has a way of making a man feel alive, but it's more attractive in the abstract than the reality.

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(03-15-2019 03:02 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  
(03-15-2019 02:16 PM)Caduceus Wrote:  Can anyone verify if the below information/screenshots from twitter/facebook/instagram is real or fake ?

So why does it say "Israr Osho Thang" in the top right corner and then it says "Iam Brenton Tarrant"?
Where did this Twitter guy this image from, seems like he didn't mention where.

We can start there.

It's from a guesthouse in Pakistan called Osho Thang, NY Times got in contact with the owner who describes him as "normal and polite". Not going to link it, but just google the name.
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Is "Subscribe to Pewdiepie" the equivalent to "Allahu akbar" ?

Tell them too much, they wouldn't understand; tell them what they know, they would yawn.
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RE: Shooting at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand 2019
(03-15-2019 12:42 AM)Samseau Wrote:  This guy is no Brevik.

What I don't get are why do all of these nutjob shooters keep targeting defenseless non-Whites like it will make a difference?

Brevik tried to kill the President of Norway and murdered the children of White liberals. He was 100% political motivated and had a clear political goal in mind.

This guy is insane as Dylan Roof - absolutely no strategy, just anger, rage, and looking for an easy release.

These guys are pussies and neither read Brevik at all. Brevik stated repeatedly in his manifesto that shooting up minorities was stupid and could only play into the hands of the enemy. To paraphrase him - "If you have a leak in your boat letting in water, there is no point in shoveling out water of your boat until you've fixed the leak." That is, the leak came from the left-wing traitor politicians, which is why he did the political violence he did.

Brevik was a military mastermind in many ways and fully understood what he was doing on almost every level. His manifesto reads with the kind of clarity of purpose that many of Napoleon's works do, treating murder and war as a amoral task with no difference than how you create a piece of art.

The recent string of violent low IQ Whites are just so stupid, and damaging to the White cause, that of course makes people think it is a false flag.

Indeed, I am inclined to believe that the guy who purported this attack wasn't White himself, was on a government payroll, and had a team working with him to prepare all of the files for release on the web to tie it in with the narrative of Brevik being lumped in with morons like Dylan Roof or the Synagogue Shooter.

It's a narrative because we can see the obvious contradictions that make no sense (if this guy really read Brevik he would have shot up liberal Whites, for example) and yet ties in perfectly with the string of other fucked up low-IQ Whites who go on violent rampages.

It's all too convenient for the ruling liberals, especially Jews, as an excuse to clamp down on everyone's rights and crank up the surveillance state to full blast.

Like the Las Vegas shooting, none of it makes any logical sense, and that's why I don't believe any of it. It's far more likely these White shooters are mentally deranged morons who are groomed by the CIA or FBI into doing the shooting so a crack-down can begin.

Until proven otherwise, it is just as likely this is a false-flag as it is not.

Especially - he picks a Muslim church in New Zealand? GTFO with such bullshit, no White nationalist gives a fuck or has the bankroll to travel around the world and shoot up a small island for his 'cause.' It's complete bullshit. How would this "attacker" even plan on making his escape of a mass shooting from an island? Is he James Bond with his boat on standby, ready to zoom across the Pacific? tard

Regardless, just like the FBI coverup at Vegas, even though 99.9% of Whites had nothing to do with this obvious bullshit lie, we will all be punished for it anyways.

But hey guys - Vote Yang. He will protect your rights Laugh

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Everything is one big conspiracy. We all agree that a lot of fucked up stuff is done behind in the background from very powerful people, but to think that after YEARS of Muslims in the Media daily because of their evil enrichments, years of countless of attacks on OUR people and the daily reminder that white people are worthless shits, you really think that if a white guy just has enough and goes out and shoot some Muslims, that its one big CIA complot rather than justified anger?

I agree with you on the Breivik part that it doesn't make sense to go around and shoot some "innocent" Muslims.

In my book, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more and I'm very surprised, it does not happen in Europe that some guy has enough. But white people as the saying goes: "We are nice until we are not". And people know very well what happens if we start to be not nice and cucks to anyone anymore.
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(03-15-2019 03:11 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  It's from a guesthouse in Pakistan called Osho Thang, NY Times got in contact with the owner who describes him as "normal and polite". Not going to link it, but just google the name.


If the north korea & pakistan trip(s) & the above internet screenshot about pakistan is real, this alleged shooter has intelligence agency employee written all over him.
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(03-15-2019 03:11 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  
(03-15-2019 03:02 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  
(03-15-2019 02:16 PM)Caduceus Wrote:  Can anyone verify if the below information/screenshots from twitter/facebook/instagram is real or fake ?

So why does it say "Israr Osho Thang" in the top right corner and then it says "Iam Brenton Tarrant"?
Where did this Twitter guy this image from, seems like he didn't mention where.

We can start there.

It's from a guesthouse in Pakistan called Osho Thang, NY Times got in contact with the owner who describes him as "normal and polite". Not going to link it, but just google the name.

What in the fuck ?

Quote:And a man using the same name visited the Gilgit-Baltistan administrative territory of Pakistan in October, people at two hotels there confirmed.

Asghar Khan, the manager of operations at the Serena Hotel there, said the man seemed like a “nature-loving” traveler. Syed Israr Hussain, owner of the nearby Osho Thang hotel, said he stayed there for two or three days with a group of backpackers.

“He was normal and polite during his stay,” Mr. Hussain said. “There was nothing out of the ordinary.”

Name and location checks out it seems (I say this with a grain of salt)

Could this be pre radicalization? He started overseas traveling in 2011

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Will be interesting to find out who those other guys are. There are at least 3 arrested.

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(03-15-2019 12:00 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  He posted this almost immediately after the attack. I posted it on page 3 of the thread but the link was taken down. You should see his tweets.

Is Senator Fraser Anning a reader of the forum?

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(03-15-2019 03:35 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Could this be pre radicalization? He started overseas traveling in 2011

The photo was from October 2018. Only a few months ago. I looked through the photos on the Facebook page where it supposedly comes from and it is no longer there.

Which leads to another question. When did he return from his travels? That's not a lot of time to settle in New Zealand, plan the attack, and more importantly get access to a semi automatic weapon which are highly restricted in New Zealand.
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New Zealand's censorship in action. NZ government has gone to extreme length in blocking and/or shutting down posts, links to video, sites, etc. related to the mosque shooting.



Off topic and not to hijack this thread...looks like there's something going on in Beverly Hills, CA.

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(03-15-2019 08:46 AM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  
(03-15-2019 08:22 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(03-14-2019 11:46 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  In that main back room only 1 guy even tried to run away that was weird. They were bunched up in the corners and barely moved. 1 shot probably wouldnt drop a man with adrenaline wanting to get away.
I thought that was extremely strange too.

A while back I talked with a policeman who had some training in this kind of mass shooting scenarios. They were trained to go against their instincts which is to run away from the danger but he said the actual best thing to do as a male in decent shape was usually to run up against the shooter. Easier said than done of course but instead of almost cuddling up in the corners of the mosque they should have tried to confront him.

It's apparently easier to just aim and shoot at people who are trying to figure out how to get out of there and in the video we can see that he could calmly try to aim at them.
A shooter don't expect you to actually go on an attack and will be shocked by it. If you were trying to carry out an act like this you wouldn't like it if people actually had balls to just try and take the weapon out of you.
I also read on some news site that apparently someone actually managed to throw his rifle on the floor and then sprint out of there but I think it was at the 2nd mosque so it probably never came on any footage.

Also, at the Bataclan shooting, I think the terrorists ordered everyone to get down on the floor in order to deceive the victims and make it easy to kill them.

I agree with you and the other forum members, who noticed that most of the poor victims apparently waited rather passively for their fate, instead of running or fighting back.

And it's not to criticize the victims, by the way: it's to try and convince anyone reading this, that the solution is not passively lying on the floor, if a terrorist of any race enters a room you're in...

So well, allow me to copy here a link to a former post of mine:
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-57053...pid1350104

I mean, in the same way I humbly advised Christian or Jewish people to either run or fight back, if an islamic terrorist enters, I am now respectfully advising Muslim people to do the same: if a crazy Pagan terrorist enters to kill you, run (even without shoes) or fight, don't drop to the floor.

Reminds me of the video (security cam 4) I saw a few days ago, of the Brazil shooting at a school. Those who survive are those who run towards the exit or fight back (one of the shooters even drops his weapon because of a victim wildly rushing into him), those who wait lying on the ground, were hacked to death.
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RE: Shooting at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand 2019
The only country that teacher active shooter protocol is the US. Most people in the first world don't think about situations like this.

Run, Hide, Fight.



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