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(05-01-2019 01:55 PM)Mr. Wolf Wrote:  Cool topic. If we ever do have to go into SHTF mode, antibiotics may be the difference between life and death. When you or a loved one is ill with a serious bacterial infection, or a wound begins festering, they are worth more than gold. A good general-purpose antibiotic is Amoxicillin.

https://modernsurvivalblog.com/health/fi...paredness/

I keep reading about fish antibiotics being good for human consumption. Has anyone field tested this? Fish antibiotics are not as hard to come by either.
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(05-03-2019 05:23 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  
(05-01-2019 01:55 PM)Mr. Wolf Wrote:  Cool topic. If we ever do have to go into SHTF mode, antibiotics may be the difference between life and death. When you or a loved one is ill with a serious bacterial infection, or a wound begins festering, they are worth more than gold. A good general-purpose antibiotic is Amoxicillin.

https://modernsurvivalblog.com/health/fi...paredness/

I keep reading about fish antibiotics being good for human consumption. Has anyone field tested this? Fish antibiotics are not as hard to come by either.

Here's something to think about that will serve you well for every survival related purchase you make.

Don't think about it in terms of "is this safe by today's standards".

Think about it in terms of "is this a better option than dying in misery".

For example, I was looking at buying large quantities of salt for storage and was having trouble finding a local source that provided 20 kilo bags that didn't have aluminium based anti-caking agents. I've learned to avoid buying products with aluminium anything in it because it fucks you up into later life.

Then I realized how stupid my pre-requisite was for buying a product that was supposed to be a stop-gap for several years if civilization collapsed. God forbid the poles reversed or some other nonsense would I really give a shit about eating the same "bad salt" that everyone else was eating now? If I lived to 85 and started suffering dementia would it be a loss considering that I'd lived to 85 while most other people from my age were long dead?

Unless you have the money and the contacts to store up on human-grade antibiotics then then "are fish-antibiotics strictly safe for humans" is not really the question.

The question is "are less-safe fish antibiotics a better option than dying of a wound infection"?

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(05-03-2019 11:46 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  For example, I was looking at buying large quantities of salt for storage and was having trouble finding a local source that provided 20 kilo bags that didn't have aluminium based anti-caking agents

Stock feed supplier? I'm pretty sure the last time I bought salt in 20 kg bags, it was just salt. I distinctly remember it being a bit of a pain to mix because it was all caked together (it was the coarse one not the fine they also had which probably did have anti-caking agents, not that that would really matter if you really needed it)
Might grab a couple of extra bags just to have in the shed next time.

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It seems stupid but because there was no listed ingredients other than salt I assumed there was shit in there which was probably even worse. I wasn't sure what the laws were on obligations to list ingredients for stock products so I sidestepped it before realising I was being autistic.

Now I just get it from my butcher at cost.

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Any stock feed should be safe enough really, the laws are pretty strict about additives/residues etc, just that the hygiene might be a bit more lax, like the salt could have been loaded onto a semi that just tipped off a load of gravel, using a rusty front end loader bucket with non food grade grease around the pivot pins sort of thing.

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This post aimed at people in the UK and I've mentioned this before.

A new offensive weapons bill is going through which will make things such as knuckle dusters in the privacy of your own home illegal and if caught you can face prosecution.

https://www.parliament.uk/business/news/...pons-bill/

https://services.parliament.uk/bills/201...apons.html



Get buying now before it becomes more difficult or even impossible to get something.
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(05-05-2019 07:30 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  This post aimed at people in the UK and I've mentioned this before.

A new offensive weapons bill is going through which will make things such as knuckle dusters in the privacy of your own home illegal and if caught you can face prosecution.

https://www.parliament.uk/business/news/...pons-bill/

https://services.parliament.uk/bills/201...apons.html



Get buying now before it becomes more difficult or even impossible to get something.

Sounds like something designed just to attach additional criminal charges for free, if the ban is down to the level of improvised weapons. Like "Resisting Arrest" or "Assaulting a Police Officer" if you struggle in the slightest when being arrested.
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That's a good one. They put their boot on your neck and if you squirm to avoid death by crushed windpipe then you're "resisting".

One more good reason to get your ass out into the country.

It's trivial for them to organise a 5 on 1 beating in the city but out in the sticks that's a day trip for three of the goons and an hour drive for the fourth. That shit gets chucked quickly in the "too hard" basket unless you're drawing serious heat.

Anyway, get your license for the permit for the license to become a "collector of antique weapons" and a "sporting shooter". These things are no longer negotiable.

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The living in the country is different in the UK. Whereas in the USA and Aussie land the police are not expected to turn up to save you so self defence is a given, here you can only defend yourself within reason and shooting first asking questions later isn't a defense when a gang of shitheads decides its your time to be hit.

Rural crime is a tough nut because its so easy for them to get away and target peoples property.

The other week I noticed something which is a sign of the times or someones paranoia. Going through a nice neighbourhood where property prices are easily 400k+ I saw a detached house, big grounds, brick wall and steel gate. Around 7 feet in height. In front of the gate were 3 thick retractable bollards.

They've done this because these criminals use powerful saloon cars to ram through gates and then rush out once inside the grounds with sledge hammers and crowbars to get through any glass or glazed pannelling.

When the non-rich are using thick steel bollards in front of their 7 ft steel gates you know theres a problem.
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Using a gun for self defense doesn't necessarily mean someone is going to get shot.

We're not at Mad Max quite yet and not many criminals are going to walk down the barrel of a shotgun. Wave it around like Harry Potter's wand and the shitstains are still magically going to fuck off.

Anyway, even if you can't truly rely on it until traditional law and order are out the window, you still have to get a hold of it before things get bad.

Anyhoo. I've been exploring the possibility of where I'd go if I had to bug out from my happy home in the sticks and it's an interesting exercise. Sort of a back-to-basics type thing that I abandoned after I moved out of the suburbs. It amazing how little you can load into even a 4WD and a trailer if you're looking at a long-term exodus. You truly have to have stuff stashed at your planned retreat location if you want to last more than a couple of seasons.

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So, you would leave your happy home in the sticks for .. another happy home even further in the sticks ?
Or is it just a theoretical exercise ?
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(05-09-2019 09:04 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Using a gun for self defense doesn't necessarily mean someone is going to get shot.

Do you want to explain to British police, magistrates and the media how you're not a threat to the public in a country which sends the police around for disliking tranny posts?

Pointing a gun at someone, even if they're a criminal will land you in a house full of criminals in the UK.
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(05-09-2019 03:13 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 09:04 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Using a gun for self defense doesn't necessarily mean someone is going to get shot.

Do you want to explain to British police, magistrates and the media how you're not a threat to the public in a country which sends the police around for disliking tranny posts?

Pointing a gun at someone, even if they're a criminal will land you in a house full of criminals in the UK.

I bet you could get in trouble for a cricket bat in your van at this point.

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Assuming you're in North America, where would you buy a few acres to start prepping? I guessing Cali, Seattle, NY, TO and Vancouver are out. Which states/provinces do you think might survive an EOTWAWKI event?

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(05-09-2019 02:22 PM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  So, you would leave your happy home in the sticks for .. another happy home even further in the sticks ?
Or is it just a theoretical exercise ?

Something Anonymousbosch said about preparing to pray in the catacombs. For some of us a continuation of this shitshow can be just as dangerous as a societal collapse. If your governemt becomes truly tyrannical then you need a plan to go somewhere you're going to be a lot harder to find.

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(05-09-2019 09:04 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Using a gun for self defense doesn't necessarily mean someone is going to get shot.

Do you want to explain to British police, magistrates and the media how you're not a threat to the public in a country which sends the police around for disliking tranny posts?

Pointing a gun at someone, even if they're a criminal will land you in a house full of criminals in the UK.

The point is that nobody knows you waved a gun at the bad men. You don't have to announce it on Twitter.

As for getting the license to get the permit to get the license, fuck the authorities. Tell any lie you have to in order to become armed. At this point the worst they can do is reject your application. Hardly the end of the world.

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(05-09-2019 09:36 PM)ChefAllDay Wrote:  Assuming you're in North America, where would you buy a few acres to start prepping? I guessing Cali, Seattle, NY, TO and Vancouver are out. Which states/provinces do you think might survive an EOTWAWKI event?

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(05-10-2019 12:37 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Something Anonymousbosch said about preparing to pray in the catacombs.

I saw him saying that but it seems like a rewriting of history to me - at least here in europe non-christians suffered at the hands of christians much more than the other way around.

So unless he was thinking about the middle east (or about what the other two desert religions have in stock for us in the near future) I just don't know what he was referring to.

(05-10-2019 12:37 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  For some of us a continuation of this shitshow can be just as dangerous as a societal collapse.

Oh, sure.
I don't understand this obsession in the survivalist movement about wanting to live like a farmer basically.
The danger is not the landing, it's the fall (contrary to what a popular french proverb says).
Remember what happened to the kulaks in early ussr ?
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Past trangressions against (x) committed by (y) are irrelevant except for the powers that be to demand surrender on the part of the descendants of the supposedly-guilty.

Fuck that noise. I think it's pretty clear that the luciferian forces are angling at a proper White/Christian genocide so Bosch and his people are right to make their preparations.

You have plan A.
Your secondary plan is either DIP (die in place) or it's something else.
Your third plan is either DIP or it's something else.
Your fourth plan is either DIP or it's something else.

Plans don't cost much if you're only using the stuff you've already got or stuff that's trivially cheap. Let's say purely for example that the Nu-Reds are working their way into the countryside executing class enemies and burning out the homes of resistors. This might sound laughable but it's happened many times before. Plan B of loading up what I can and heading for the hills is a lot better than plan A of "fortify and be burned out". If local resistance is organizing I can compromise. "Honey, it's plan B except I may or may not be joining you later, understand? Take Jimbo's wife and kids with you. Whichever of us turns up at the end of the week is in charge."

The hardest part really is getting over how stupid it all sounds but this is life for a lot of South Africans right this second and all historical indications are that this is going to be life for a lot of us moving forward in this century.

It's better to feel silly now than learn what it was like for those Kulaks.

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I wasn't saying it's silly, just trying to understand what you plan and see if it could have some added value if I did the same Smile

Also this .. :
(05-11-2019 06:08 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Let's say purely for example that the Nu-Reds are working their way into the countryside executing class enemies and burning out the homes of resistors. This might sound laughable

.. is not laughable at all, it's basically what the islamists did in algeria at the turn of last century.
It was only a minority doing that, yet nobody could prevent it - at least before it turned into a decade-long civil war Sad
With (lowball estimation) 10 million muslims in france it's definitely worth considering as possible, even if only remotely.
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I think that there is much to be said for choosing a cold climate for relocation if one is serious about prepping. The northern halves of Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan are some of the most sparsely populated regions in the lower 48, and especially in Minnesota, see extreme cold for long periods of the winter.

While facing the danger of freezing to death each winter is a big drawback in a true SHTF world, keep in mind that most people are completely unprepared for such a situation. The Twin Cities, Milwaukee, and Chicago are too far from these areas for any marauders/politically motivated militias to "raid" with any regularity at least, and in the winter, deep snow and subzero cold would prevent people from traveling north.

Hard winters keep parasite and insect populations in check compared to warmer climes. The northwoods, great lakes, and tributaries are relatively unspoiled and could provide plenty of fish and game for a reasonably good hunter. No shortage of wood to use for heating and building, and plenty of fresh water with almost no forest fire/earthquake/hurricane threat. The short growing season would make farming somewhat dicey without a greenhouse but I believe the advantages above would outweigh that given some preparation.

If one chooses to put stock in current climate change projections, these cold areas will not become hellish like Dallas, which already sees months above 100F each summer.

There is also a lot of land for sale at low prices (~$1000 per acre or less in remote areas).

If you don't mind bundling up, these areas should be excellent permanent bug-out locations.
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I would not go to a cold climate area if I had no previous experience of it (as in having lived at least several years there already).
Winter is not a joke, here in the mountains nearby for 6 months every year you find zero food and zero game - also wet wood doesn't burn well at all.
Can you prep for this, year after year ?
Would you bet your life on it ?
Not saying it's a bad idea but this should not be taken lightly.
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Firewood becomes a lot less of an issue if you choose to heat one room instead of ten. With modern insulation and stuff like double-glazing you'd be in a better position than most of your ancestors. Personally I'd want a few years worth of staples like rice and wheat along with a shitload of canned meat and fruit to supplement whatever I was able to hunt and/or trap during the sunny seasons.

The heat issue raises something interesting I'd never given much though to.

A lot of combustion heaters these days are set into walls and rely on electricity to drive the fan that pumps air around them. Without that fan they're not very effective.

Open fireplaces and free-standing heaters will be a far better choice if things get bad. The best fireplace solutions are the ones that are ironically now considered "too unsafe". We're talking plate metal boxes or converted steel drum units with no heat shielding. Even without a fan on them these things heat a lot of cubic meters for not much wood rather than dumping that heat into the walls and up through the flue.

Come bad times, you're going to be less concerned about junior getting a minor burn and more concerned with not having to spend twice as much time traipsing around the forest looking for wood.

Anyway, these are issues that even flatlanders can't presume to ignore. A nice, frosty nuclear winter will turn a 6-month-winter location to a 12-month-winter location and the guys in the once-temperate flatlands will themselves be scrambling to get that firewood.

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You fellas do know about the Grand Solar Minimum? how our countries are being packed with more people at the precise moment it all goes to shit, good luck with your solar powered and wind powered tanks against the coal burning Russians!

Start building greenhouses.

The jig is up in the next year or two and people will panic.
We're having massive crop failures across the world, France, China, Australia, increases in price of grains...



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@LD

Rocket mass heaters are the shit. You can seriously heat your house with sticks and twigs (coppiced wood, waste wood.) and retain the heat off one burn for a couple of days. And there is no smoke coming out the chimney for scavengers to see.








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Every time I end up with a dangerous bloody forest creature in my house that hitched a ride on my firewood I swear I'm just going to build a plant room out in the yard and pipe the heat in from here, then install a tv where the fireplace used to be and simulate the damn thing.

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