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(07-25-2019 05:31 AM)nixtnext Wrote:  I'm early 40s, been swimming in the ocean for 20 years, multiple countries, a couple of observations: One is that the dating scene has changed and is changing so fast that "American girls" 10-15 years ago isn't the same as today. Facebook and Instagram have done so much damage. I mean we had Myspace and Friendster etc but you still lived in the real world. Late 90s we had dating ads in newspapers with stuff like "Male, 30, good sense of humor, seeks partner in crime". No photo. Yeah good luck. And then your own age has a lot to do with it. We all know age difference matters less in poor countries but in the West it's harder to date younger girls, even if you've got your act together.

My point is that because you've got your own age changing and the dating scene changing so fast, these types of conversations about whether it's better in America vs wherever can be quite different experiences depending on who you are and when. For example if you're a 30-year old today... 10 years ago when you were a 20-year old in America (pre Instagram) is different for 20-year olds today, both because of age and the dating scene. This would color your perception of dating in America or anywhere in the world accordingly.

I myself was 20ish in 2000, 30ish in 2010, and 40ish now. Not only was the types of girls I could realistically go for for at those different ages always different but my environment has at the same time changed drastically. I think older guys who were "dating" before the Internet went crazy would see this the clearest.

I'm 42. One thing I've noticed is that I dont know anyone whose gotten married in the last 10 plus years. A bunch of my friends got married to girls they met through social circles about 15 or so years ago, but once the dating apps and IG became mainstream weddings became obsolete. If you are a female why settle down if you hundreds of guys on bumble or tinder and IG telling you how special you are and trying to outbid each other?
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RE: Are American Women Really That Bad?
Personally I feel like this is about Looks and Location.

Are attractive guys living in big cities like, NYC, ATL, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Philadelphia, and Phoenix complaining about "Where have all the good women gone?"

Women who live in high "male to female ratio" locations are hypergamous, entitled, picky and addicted to attention. I'm willing to bet ANYWHERE in the world that has a high male to female ratio will be like this.

Want to find your American unicorn ? "LOOKS MAXX, develop good game/social skills and Level Up financially." Move to a location that has a favorable female to male ratio, and watch your complaints disappear down the drain.

Misery, is fishing in a pond with 4 fish and 12 other fisherman. Motivation, is moving to a pond with 100 fish and 85 fisherman.

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IG is straight up destructive. Come to think of it, I haven't seen a lot of weddings either. Many girls I had little flirts with 10-20 years ago but who stayed as FB contacts or similar still appear to be single, pushing 40 but doing a lot of single people stuff, solo travel photos, gym achievements, etc. Definitely no wholesome boy meets girl to raise a family, apart from religious couples. I've always been an outsider and moved around a lot so in truth I interact more with the liberal fringes of society. But there sure seems to be so many "young people" still young and single at late 30s and early 40s.
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I know of three (weddings). The first was online (incidentally I think it may have been hinge) and both are solid people but mid to late 30s. The next was social connection via family, same background, worked out how things should naturally, probably double digit age gap between them but success, family, trust all generally there. The final one is a guy who eschews all online stuff, is a hard worker with a artsy side gig, and is getting married to a legit good looking early 30s girl (performer as a job) who was almost carried away by the culture as well - he met her through his art world connection, she may have even posed for him or something. I think most will turn out, only the first example was "online" at all, and note that it was the oldest pairing by far of all 3.

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(07-26-2019 12:04 AM)velkrum Wrote:  Are attractive guys living in big cities like, NYC, ATL, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Philadelphia, and Phoenix complaining about "Where have all the good women gone?"

Of course, since this is the internet we will debate this, but I would say "yes" since women pretty much hit a wall at age 26 and the age gap cock-blocking or shaming is high, even though it's not totally unheard of to see 10-12 year gaps; they are very rare though. In America, I can only think of or currently know of 2. I can think of or know at least as many or more where the woman is older.

I still liked your post for the entirety of the idea, though.
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I wouldn't truly blame American women per se. It's the backing of ridiculous laws, white knights, and mostly importantly social media for the destruction of the good ole traditional women.
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Make thirst has a lot to do with it. Nothing makes me cringe harder
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AT first it was only in the black community but I've noticed white women and other races have started to pick up the "hot girl" "city girl" Lifestyle. There are female rappers who are brainwashing women into different behavior.

Basically, without having to actually listen to that filth these women teach girls to use men, have sex as often and nasty as possible, not be impressed by anything, To play with men's emotions, to be selfish, to gon after bad boys. You may be thinking, these are things women do already. Well, the amount of women and the level in which they do this has risen.

Just listen to or read the lyrics of a meagan the stallion song, a city girls song, nicki minaj song or a Cardi B song.
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(07-27-2019 09:31 AM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  AT first it was only in the black community but I've noticed white women and other races have started to pick up the "hot girl" "city girl" Lifestyle. There are female rappers who are brainwashing women into different behavior.

Basically, without having to actually listen to that filth these women teach girls to use men, have sex as often and nasty as possible, not be impressed by anything, To play with men's emotions, to be selfish, to gon after bad boys. You may be thinking, these are things women do already. Well, the amount of women and the level in which they do this has risen.

Just listen to or read the lyrics of a meagan the stallion song, a city girls song, nicki minaj song or a Cardi B song.

Excelsior called this six years ago:

http://www.returnofkings.com/2090/how-bl...our-future
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America is a massive country with multiple races and subcultures, so it's difficult to give a complete answer to this. Overall, American women definitely aren't the best on the planet. For example, girls from Alabama and California are completely different. The experience dating an Asian American girl and a black American girl is completely different too.

On the other hand, America is still quite rewarding to men who have carved out a niche for themselves and have zeroed in on a niche of girls they are the most attracted to. I'll need to know your race, your location, your income and career trajectory, your looks, and your desired type of girls before I can judge whether America is really not that bad, or really the worst place on the planet.

As a general rule of thumb, if you want a relationship with a conservative-leaning, all-American/country white girl, perhaps an ex-sorority girl, I would check out the Southeast or Texas, followed by the Midwest, knowing that the latter doesn't take care of their appearance as much as the former. But if you want to rack up a notch count, have access to a buffet of all races, nationalities, and subcultures, and spin plates/involve yourselves in as many subcultures as you want, I'd forget about the South and try NYC living in the middle of Manhattan. If you have Yellow Fever, you would be content with the West Coast. Miami and Houston are great for Latinas, and so on so forth.

The problem is that many American guys either don't have a niche, or they aren't branching out from what they know the best. For example, I would only be stupid if I tried to find an LTR in a club in a big city that's blasting hip hop. Girls in America seem to want either two types of guys: Guys who are exceptionally interesting or special, or guys who are part of their subculture that they feel comfortable with. In fact, you would want to try your best to achieve both. I'm getting the vibe that many guys, both on and off the forum, seem simply unwilling to be the best version of themselves and play the game. Its easy to go "soft" when you live a comfortable existence.

Another advantage of America is that you can just move if a city doesn't resonate with you. No one is forcing you to stay in Omaha, Nebraska if you want to rack up a notch count. Likewise, no one is forcing you to stay in Los Angeles if you're looking for a LTR with a cute all-American white girl.

When many guys who go to foreign countries think they do better, its because 1. by being the foreigner they check the "special" box for girls, and 2. They are getting girls that are that desirable for local men. But if they want to stay long term in the foreign country by building enough comfort with a certain subculture of locals to have a stable LTR, build a career for themselves, and build a meaningful social circle, it takes as much investment as making America work out. While America is definitely more cut throat socially than most foreign countries, there are so many things that one needs to adjust to in a foreign country that the overall amount of pain experienced might end up being similar for the majority of people. Just because you chose to invest in something different doesn't necessarily mean it is better. Even if you run away from problems temporarily, you still have to face them at the end. It boils down to what set of problems you want to face.

For example, I'm non-white and interested in interracial dating. But I'm from a very monoracial country where its extremely rare for guys, but not girls, to date interracially. So for me, America, despite its obesity, clown world, social competition, and poor attitude of women (I've had countless unnecessarily harsh rejections and flakes), is still an improvement over my home country as I can actually access what I want. Both family pressure (I have conservative parents who are against casual dating and nightlife) and sheer demographics means that its difficult to find a hot, high quality foreign girl. Of course, I can move to another foreign country, but there are other barriers, such as language, having to cultivate new hobbies for the new country, incompatible education, not understanding at first how to make friends or do business and building new circles under these circumstances, etc.
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Which would you rather sleep with?
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Born in the USA. My best experiences have been with foreign women. In my own experience the foreign women I've been with weren't full of themselves.

Women in the USA (generally) are masculinized. Career focused, narcissistic, and overestimate their value.
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(07-26-2019 12:04 AM)velkrum Wrote:  Personally I feel like this is about Looks and Location.

Are attractive guys living in big cities like, NYC, ATL, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Philadelphia, and Phoenix complaining about "Where have all the good women gone?"

Women who live in high "male to female ratio" locations are hypergamous, entitled, picky and addicted to attention. I'm willing to bet ANYWHERE in the world that has a high male to female ratio will be like this.

Want to find your American unicorn ? "LOOKS MAXX, develop good game/social skills and Level Up financially." Move to a location that has a favorable female to male ratio, and watch your complaints disappear down the drain.

Misery, is fishing in a pond with 4 fish and 12 other fisherman. Motivation, is moving to a pond with 100 fish and 85 fisherman.

Observation is correct that a man has an abundance of beautiful options in NYC.


Observation is incorrect that women won't be hypergamous, flaky, entitled, and picky in these areas.


NYC supposedly has a great ratio of unmarried men to unmarried women. But women in NYC have what I call the "illusion of abundance." In NYC, there might be a 1:10 ratio of high earning, tall, good looking game aware guys to decent looking woman. But she doesn't know that when she opens her phone and there are more 9+ Chads making 300k a year than anywhere in the world. All she knows is that she's got those options ready to fuck her.


She might get ran through by 20+ of these guys for 10 years in a row, but all she knows is that they are there, in abundance, and available.


If I went back to my old suburb, I'd standout much more with my value, even if the ratios aren't as good. In NYC, I'm nothing that a girl can't readily get off the shelf.

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Western women are no different to the rest. Some good, some bad. Some malleable, some stubborn. The key characteristic of an American (Or Western) woman, which I actually appreciate is that they are easy to read.

A lot of times men can be fooled by the grass is greener approach or the seemingly feminine women of foreign nations. The reality however, is that all women have an end game and all relationships are hard work, whereby a man has to set a standard. There is no cheat code where you fly somewhere and relationships get easy.
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The above is true, but the point for most is that if you are over the arms race of sexual dynamics, which is on steroids in the west, but rather prefer femininity and cultures that don't go out of their way to cater to women, you will find that your options are plentiful in others places --- if you are there for a longer time, and thus interesting and trustworthy. No, there is no cheat code but I'll take a better culture, less consumerism, not a fascination with law and lawyers trying to screw you and most importantly, a culture that doesn't cockblock your access to young women, which is the point of the whole thing in a single sentence. I would argue that age gap cockblocking is the single biggest problem culturally (for those that actually want to be in serious relationships or marriages), but when you understand what's going on, you'll see that everything is set up for this to be precisely what happens. Until a reboot, absolutely nothing will change that.

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I have been asked to post a link to this article a number of times. I think it describes British men's experiences with American women. At the early stages, US women are very attractive to British men. They appear confident and gregarious which makes them approachable. It is no small wonder that I fell into Day Game before I knew it was a thing whilst in the US (the tourist spots of Washington DC of all places). Their confidence with strangers, approachability and the advantage of me having an accent imbued me with situational confidence, which made me want to speak to more women.


When I returned to the UK this situational confidence quickly evaporated with the Resting Bitch Faces of Englishwomen, how they would stare at the pavement when walking up the street and appear visibly shocked if a stranger started a conversation with them.

Anyway the thing is, there is a contempt that comes with familiarity and once American women get to know you, they can change a lot.

Quote:One came from James Brown, 36, a London magazine editor:
"American Women. You can only spend so long with one before you crack. They're out there, they're loud, they're bitter and they're kooky. After a while all the things that attracted you to them: confidence, conversation, nice teeth, begin to bug you. You think you've got Black Beauty and you end up with Mr. Ed."

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America is generally a very diverse place and you will meet people from all types of backgrounds. When I used to live in NYC there were plentiful of beautiful women with wide variety of personalities, On the other hand most other major cities (e.g Cleveland) in the US have trashy women and/or bad personalities. Then there is bible belt America where everyone is obese. It all depends where you look. Honestly the most sweetheart women I found where in small cities in the affluent north east (e.g Burlington, Vermont)
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(08-03-2019 12:33 AM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  America is generally a very diverse place and you will meet people from all types of backgrounds. When I used to live in NYC there were plentiful of beautiful women with wide variety of personalities, On the other hand most other major cities (e.g Cleveland) in the US have trashy women and/or bad personalities. Then there is bible belt America where everyone is obese. It all depends where you look. Honestly the most sweetheart women I found where in small cities in the affluent north east (e.g Burlington, Vermont)

Some of the hottest girls in the US are from the Bible Belt, especially those from more well-off backgrounds. There is a historical aristocracy in this area and palpable remnants of it remain. There's a reason why the top, old money, sororities at SEC universities are the hottest in the nation. The overall obesity is definitely higher than up north, but there's more than enough slim hot girls to go around in the Bible Belt for guys with certain amounts of game or social status/wealth. If anything, when it comes to dating specifically for well-educated fairly well off guys, which I assume most guys on the forum are, there is probably more quality in the South than up north.

On the other hand, the hot southern girls have a tendency to be cliquish. This makes it harder for outsiders to crack than Northerners. The small town rich Northern girls though, might be just as cliquish. An upside is that a much lower % of them are hardened cock carousel riders compared to metropolitan girls.

Generally, affluent girls from smaller places in the US are better than metropolitan girls in a given region. What you like is a matter of tastes. Affluent girls from Macon, GA and Burlington, VT are very different.

Of course, if you want to specifically avoid all-American white girls, I'd write off most of the country and stick to NYC, Miami, and LA, in order.
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The real problem here isn't the American women. The female nature has always been like this since the beginning of time. The difference is now they are allowed to run wild in America unchecked, even encouraged to be boastful.

You can take any sweet and kind girl from any nation, like China for an example, bring her here and she will adapt to these ridiculous rules. She will become Americanized and less feminine. Women are known to push for more power from men and inch by inch these weak male leaders allow this nonsense.

The men of the past had it right with certain rights restrictions when it came to women. They were far more red pilled than these current leaders who constantly bend over to these silly female requests time after time. At this pace this nation is going to undoubtedly fall if we don't correct this soon.
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(08-03-2019 12:50 AM)SilentOne Wrote:  The real problem here isn't the American women. The female nature has always been like this since the beginning of time. The difference is now they are allowed to run wild in America unchecked, even encouraged to be boastful.

You can take any sweet and kind girl from any nation, like China for an example, bring her here and she will adapt to these ridiculous rules. She will become Americanized and less feminine. Women are known to push for more power from men and inch by inch these weak male leaders allow this nonsense.

The men of the past had it right with certain rights restrictions when it came to women. They were far more red pilled than these current leaders who constantly bend over to these silly female requests time after time. At this pace this nation is going to undoubtedly fall if we don't correct this soon.

I feel like a lot of guys on this forum don't really dislike American women for their personality traits. A lot of them seems to just be uncomfortable connecting with a lot of these girls.

As an example, when it comes to white or culturally "western" girls specifically, European and Latin America girls are much better at being "international/global minded" than American girls. If you want a globalized metropolitan city girl, the American ones are at best a somewhat inferior version of what you can access in Europe and Latin America, barring the NYC/Miami/LA trio, and at worst bigger SJWs/hipsters than their overseas counterparts.

Of course, if you have yellow fever, America would be a waste of time and you'd go straight to Asia.

I observed that the guys who seem content in America tend to make good inroads with the all-American white girl. But they do have rather specific interests and not all guys can connect well with them. Greek Life, baseball, college football, and country music are just some of the things that a guy should either understand and feel comfortable with, or be personally involved with, to do well with this type of girl. This really isn't for every guy.
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(08-03-2019 01:02 AM)Aquarius Wrote:  I feel like a lot of guys on this forum don't really dislike American women for their personality traits. A lot of them seems to just be uncomfortable connecting with a lot of these girls.

Yup and it's getting even harder and harder to connect with these women especially because of social media. These swiping apps has given them a false sense of security to finding a quality match any time they want. The truth they really get is pumped and dumped.

Having a serious relationship with a women who's on social media is pretty much doomed. Just look at someone like Steph Curry and his wife. She feels like she needs more male attention in her current set up. She wants more strange men to hit her DMs more, the audacity. I would divorce her immediately, especially living in California.

American women are messed up but it is more so cause of the current laws we have.
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(08-03-2019 01:35 AM)SilentOne Wrote:  
(08-03-2019 01:02 AM)Aquarius Wrote:  I feel like a lot of guys on this forum don't really dislike American women for their personality traits. A lot of them seems to just be uncomfortable connecting with a lot of these girls.

Yup and it's getting even harder and harder to connect with these women especially because of social media. These swiping apps has given them a false sense of security to finding a quality match any time they want. The truth they really get is pumped and dumped.

Having a serious relationship with a women who's on social media is pretty much doomed. Just look at someone like Steph Curry and his wife. She feels like she needs more male attention in her current set up. She wants more strange men to hit her DMs more, the audacity. I would divorce her immediately, especially living in California.

American women are messed up but it is more so cause of the current laws we have.

The swiping apps are definitely a huge issue: They affect foreign women almost as much as American women as social media and dating apps are available in many places throughout the world. There's a reason why we have a lot of doomsday threads that's just a circlejerk of "__Insert Country__ is Declining".

The issue is that in major metropolitan areas in the US, there's far too many corrupting influences and the insane amounts of multiculturalism, foreigners, and internal transplants means that there's no sense of community whatsoever. A lot of times, its a sense of community that keeps the girls themselves in check.

I have also noticed a significant rise in hiphop/urban culture in the past 5 years, especially since the 2016 Election. This rise in hiphop/urban culture is starting to rub off on all races and socioeconomic statuses. This makes a lot of non-black women more like urban black women, which we all know has the worst of the worst attitudes. I remember another forum member mentioned on another thread how the hip-hop "city girl" phenomenon is starting to rub off of white girls. Its pretty unprecedented if you look at it that people like Cardi B have become mainstream cultural influencers.
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RE: Are American Women Really That Bad?
Aquarius, you are absolutely right about urban black women having the worst attitudes by far. Love and Hip Hop ain't helping at all. The main culprit here is that they lack a father figure growing up compared to other races. Their mom wants to be their friends and so they grow up without any sensible guidance.

I see men blaming American women, rightfully so, for their poor behavior but they aren't looking at the real problem. These guys in power keep you so focused and distracted with the nonsense of the right hand so you don't catch what the left hand is really doing right in front of you. It's like this by design.
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