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(07-24-2019 01:14 PM)lookslikeit Wrote:  Oh god but correct me if I'm wrong: Shouldn't the UK be threatening war against Iran for such an act? I mean this as weak as it gets. This is the kind of response that I'd expect for example from Malta.

This coming from the UK is sending a very bad signal (too weak i mean)

This "very bad signal" is an honest signal. In less than a century the UK went from being a fading empire to a sort of homeless shelter. The US government can still delude itself into imagining it can afford to go to war against Iran. The UK, on its own, can't. The US can fire up their printing press to pay for boats as long as that arrangement holds out should they lose one. If the UK loses a boat, they gotta pay for the replacement out of the welfare state budget or accept the hole in their Navy.
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(07-24-2019 02:04 PM)BBinger Wrote:  
(07-24-2019 01:14 PM)lookslikeit Wrote:  Oh god but correct me if I'm wrong: Shouldn't the UK be threatening war against Iran for such an act? I mean this as weak as it gets. This is the kind of response that I'd expect for example from Malta.

This coming from the UK is sending a very bad signal (too weak i mean)

This "very bad signal" is an honest signal. In less than a century the UK went from being a fading empire to a sort of homeless shelter. The US government can still delude itself into imagining it can afford to go to war against Iran. The UK, on its own, can't. The US can fire up their printing press to pay for boats as long as that arrangement holds out should they lose one. If the UK loses a boat, they gotta pay for the replacement out of the welfare state budget or accept the hole in their Navy.

You know the people (or otherwise) realize how real this is only when things comes to a real test. If the UK can't retaliate for something this serious, then it's really "bad".

Even worse: look at the BBC website: https://www.bbc.com/ where I expect news about this. There is no mention of "Iran" in the front-page.

Compare this to the iran times: https://www.tehrantimes.com/ (I don't know what the most popular newsite is, i just googled most popular newssite and it appeared).

It's really rock-bottom for the EU and the high-tech stuff is not gonna help. Maybe allow Germany again to build and establish an army?
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You know what's going to be really super dooper bat-shit ultra bad for the UK?

Try to imagine working in British Intelligence in a country with 2.6 million muslims many-if-not-most of whom are not assimilated and are highly hostile to the UK. Then you arrive for work one day and your line manager tells you "we're about to begin military actions against Iran".

"Good luck. I quit."

This guy would be the tip of the iceberg.

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Most of them are Sunni in the UK so who know knows if they hold their Shia fellows in high regard if the West bombs them.
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The UK has been at war against Muslims for decades now, Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria.

British intelligence was very active in Iraq in the 00s fomenting sectarian violence by conducting false flag bombings, covertly hitting both shiite and sunni targets across Iraq. Like other NATO powers they've provided cover and training for jihadis in Syria.

It's an old tactic that they've also used in Ireland, a lot of alleged IRA terrorism in the UK was "home made".

Quote:British special forces caught dressed as Arab 'terrorists'

British soldiers have been caught posing as Arabs and shooting Iraqis in the occupied city of Basra in southern Iraq. A group of them was caught yesterday by Iraqi police. They were driving an Iraqi car, wearing Arab clothing, and carrying weapons and explosives.

The Iraqi police were patrolling the area looking for suspected "terrorists" or "insurgents", and they noticed that the men were acting suspiciously. Suddenly, without warning, the suspicious men started shooting at people, but the new Iraqi security forces managed to capture some of them before they could escape. Obviously, if these men had not been caught, the mass media would now be reporting the incident as just another attempt by evil "terrorists" to create civil war in Iraq.

There have been a number of incidents in this area and throughout Iraq in which police and civilians have been targeted and killed by "terrorists" or "insurgents". But this is the first time that any of those responsible have been caught in the act, and it is now clear that at least some of them are working directly for the occupying forces, as many Iraqis have openly suspected all along.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/were-briti...-basra/994

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Any man willing to do something like that is very far down the bottom of a very tall mountain atop which sits redemption.

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(07-25-2019 06:02 PM)911 Wrote:  The UK has been at war against Muslims for decades now, Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria.

British intelligence was very active in Iraq in the 00s fomenting sectarian violence by conducting false flag bombings, covertly hitting both shiite and sunni targets across Iraq. Like other NATO powers they've provided cover and training for jihadis in Syria.

It's an old tactic that they've also used in Ireland, a lot of alleged IRA terrorism in the UK was "home made".

Quote:British special forces caught dressed as Arab 'terrorists'

British soldiers have been caught posing as Arabs and shooting Iraqis in the occupied city of Basra in southern Iraq. A group of them was caught yesterday by Iraqi police. They were driving an Iraqi car, wearing Arab clothing, and carrying weapons and explosives.

The Iraqi police were patrolling the area looking for suspected "terrorists" or "insurgents", and they noticed that the men were acting suspiciously. Suddenly, without warning, the suspicious men started shooting at people, but the new Iraqi security forces managed to capture some of them before they could escape. Obviously, if these men had not been caught, the mass media would now be reporting the incident as just another attempt by evil "terrorists" to create civil war in Iraq.

There have been a number of incidents in this area and throughout Iraq in which police and civilians have been targeted and killed by "terrorists" or "insurgents". But this is the first time that any of those responsible have been caught in the act, and it is now clear that at least some of them are working directly for the occupying forces, as many Iraqis have openly suspected all along.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/were-briti...-basra/994

You're referring to the Basra prison incident where all evidence pointed that Colin MacLachlan and A.N.Other were engaged in "false flag" operations when they were caught.

Its nothing new for the Brits or the West.

The Brits did it all over their empire and particularly in India were always conducting false internecine operations to keep the populace at war with each other.

Tucker Carlson continuously refers to Democrat tactics and terms them "divide and rule" (which is what it is) and refers to the British use of the tactic in India and elsewhere.

As far as the lack of a spine in British Command.. This all dates back to the Suez crisis where France and the UK acted unilaterally and were then raked over the coals by both the US and the USSR for trying to ignore the big boys.

It was a similar story with a little known operation called "Auftrag" where a (then) West German worked out that the nuclear ICBM racket was just that .. a racket, and that he could make ICBMs with gas canisters for a fraction of the price. Cue Muamar Qadaffi's interest and Mr "Auftrag" getting a whole province of (then) Zaire to fire missiles around in as Qadaffi paid Mobutu a fortune for the privilege. It was both the US and the USSR who put pressure on West Germany and a very disgruntled Mr Auftrag was forced to go home. The CIA and the KGB kept tabs on him ever after that.

In the disastrous fall out of the Suez, British command vowed to create a "lighter, more agile force". This is code for.. we no longer rule the waves, "we are now an extra regiment of the US army and operate as their cheerleader in international relations." ie: "special relationship"

During the 70's the one rule: a war every 10 years - didn't materialise and there was talk of scrapping the army in massive numbers including the SAS and the SBS.
Shows what fucking UK politicians know.. ie: jack shit.

This is what they've done ever since - every year shrinking the army navy etc. a little more and yet bloviating on the world stage about how awesome our armed forces are.

They amalgamated SBS/SAS training and selection: a retrograde step. They have cut and cut and cut until the UK army cannot fill the national stadium. The US Marine Corps on its own is bigger now.

The Brits did manage the Falklands Crisis but.. they relied on Ronald Reagans CIA to tie the French and Argies up with so many fake deals that the Argies couldn't do to the British fleet sitting in San Carlos water what they wanted to.

About that..

The British navy were sitting ducks. Air power is invincible you say? The Argies had airbases just over the horizon you say?

Well what about the use of fucking barrage balloons? Seriously.. did they forget?

Well. The Barrage balloons were all sitting forgotten about in a shed in Norfolk.

So Yes.. Command forgot.

What about the simple use of regimental fires to fuck up visibility? Seriously, the African tribes were doing that to the Rhodesian airforce just 3 years prior while British intelligence were playing off the Ndebele and the Shona and the White Rhodesians against each other.

They forgot that too.

Command is a tiny tiny section of the shit cunt British elite who are so full of themselves that they invented the White Helmets or that they were in bed with Qadaffi right up until they bombed his house that they can't see what pieces of shit they really are.

The problem with people like that is they think they're smarter than everyone else.
they think that all they need is an army that is a paper cut out and they can use their backstabbing "light touch" to trick every one and save their own hides.

It doesn't work that way.

They need tough hardened troops and a lot of them. They need tanks. They need ships. They need to be able to project force.

After the Iraq war the military brass presented to the commons that they could no longer prosecute overseas operations unless they piggy backed on US assets and platforms.

Also.. they were using the SAS in the Tora Bora caves as light infantry. Thats Battle of the Somme levels of tactics. But thats what happens when the politicians and command are in charge.

These cunts think they can get rid of all our hardware and most of our manpower and just rely on Cyber cloak and dagger antics which is mainly prosecuted by the US Deep State on our behalf.
Thats the Barack Obama Deep State these days.

Its all well and good except when the Iranians who are aware of this kidnap a British tanker.

Ever wonder why the Russians are constantly "buzzing" the UK air defences? They're aware of it too Smile .

But David Cameron and Boris Johnson pretend that all the cuts since Suez never happened..

One of the recent Defence ministers went off on one about "the new plan" - cut the army, navy numbers. Replace the "agile" force with a "cyber" force..
Everything done by drones and tech with manpower holes made up by reservist civilians.

Well how the fuck will that work against people who know the ground and have grown up in combat situations?

I know a gay office worker in London who is a Royal Marines reservist.
does he spend his time on exercise or getting beasted on base? he spends his time chatting with the girls in the office about how he's "out to the boys in my unit and you know.. they've been really accepting of that"

Does one weekend once a month with the RMR.

The Royal Marine Commandos who fought in the falklands talk of how every one told them they were useless. The tough commandos of yesterday year told them they were faggots. They went out to dig up enemy mines at night in the freezing cold and under enemy sights or to fight in battles like Mount Longdon desperate to prove that they were the real deal.
Raised with nothing on Thatchers council estates. My mates brother joined the marines in the 80s. They slowly, painstakingly went through with him and the other teenage recruits how to hang yourself properly.
Piss on the sheet, wring it out, rig it to this fixture, don't fuck up any of the steps.
One kid had been so tormented by the training he had unsuccessfully tried to hang himself and failed. Would spend the rest of his life in bed, dribbling and wearing a diaper and draining his family's resources.
"If you're going to do it, get it right" Could have been the motto of the troops back then.

Now we've got Pink Commandos stopping their office chairs from flying into the sky 9 to 5 Monday to Friday.

McLachlan the SAS trooper in the Basra prison incident was also involved in operation Barras in Sierra Leone in 2000 where SAS and SBS as well the Paras freed British troops taken hostage.

The eyes in the sky for that? American.
The real air cover in case the shit hit the fan? American.

The helicopter gun ship used to clear up the surrounding countryside in the days after ? "anything that moves between this point on the map or this point is a terrorist.. kill it"?
That was a 2nd hand Ukrainian helicopter gunship manned by a middle aged South African, a Frenchman "on holiday" and a Fijian.
All hired out by the Brits from South African mercenary operation "Executive Outcomes".

Thats real ability to project force right there..

The ex SAS trooper Will Scully who pretty much single handedly held the Mama Yoko hotel in Freetown against the RUF/West Side boys Operation "No Living Thing"?

He was fucked until he could call a nearby US aircraft carrier which got his position up on the big screen and guided a missile onto rebels using a Hawker Harrier floating miles up in the sky.

The US loved using the Hawker Harriers for these things.

Hawker harriers were awesome British made craft but "owing to government cuts" the UK army doesn't have any anymore.

Command and the politicians?
Lazy lazy fucking chancers only concerned with feathering their own nests and killing their own men.

Brittania rules the waves eh?
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(07-25-2019 06:02 PM)911 Wrote:  It's an old tactic that they've also used in Ireland, a lot of alleged IRA terrorism in the UK was "home made".

Not to give to much away but I lived near one of the border counties of Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, and even I didn't know of this to my 20's. This shows you how limited media was back even only a few years ago in Ireland, it was no better than state propaganda.
Then you also have the stories MI6 taking IRA lads out to sheds in NI blindfolded and assassinating them to stir the shit, the war even further. (This part I do believe)

Then you have the claim that Martin McGuinness who was more or less 2nd in command of the IRA and Sinn Fein was reporting directly to MI6, which frankly isn't beyond the realms of possibility seeing as friendly he became in the end to the Unionists in the North of Ireland.

And nationalism was subverted and killed by Sinn Fein in the late 1960's hijacking with their inherent marxism and making it about equality for Catholics, like so many revolutionaries around the world in that decade. (which wasn't the intended goal at all of Sinn Fein to begin with)
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Slightly off topic But is The U.S, Saudi Arabia and Israel still bombing the living shit out of Yemen and causing mass starvations across the country? So little of that situation has ever made the media. Can anyone explain whats happening there and why it has been so secretive?
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(07-30-2019 07:13 AM)Sword and Board Wrote:  Slightly off topic But is The U.S, Saudi Arabia and Israel still bombing the living shit out of Yemen and causing mass starvations across the country? So little of that situation has ever made the media. Can anyone explain whats happening there and why it has been so secretive?

Yes, the Saudis and the US are still operating in Yemen. The usual reason given is because of the Houthi takeover, but really the war in Yemen has always been about oil pipelines and ports for the Saudis. As part of the preparations for a war with Iran they want to create alternative routes for their oil to lessen their dependence on shipping through the Persian Gulf where it's obviously vulnerable.

In 2018 it was only barely reported in the media, and not in any Western MSM that I could find, that they began constructing the pipeline through the Al-Mahrah governorate in eastern Yemen, along the border with Oman.

Saudi Arabia prepares to extend oil pipeline through Yemen to Arabian Sea - Middle East Monitor (September 2018)

Saudi Arabia 'to build oil port' in Yemen's al-Mahra - Al Jazeera (August 2018)

These provide some of the basic info, the Saudis and Emiratis are going to extend an oil pipeline from the Saudi border through eastern Yemen to a port on the southern coast of the country, on the Arabian Sea. It's an alternative that will bypass the Strait. That is what the Yemen war is mainly about.

Also I noticed as I was searching for those articles, the Houthis just recently attacked an oil pipeline in Saudi Arabia itself with drones, and in particular this is an east-west pipeline that sends oil from the eastern region by the Gulf to the western region along the Red Sea. In other words, it is another alternative route that bypasses the Gulf. Could just be a coincidence, but probably not. Saudi Arabia says its oil pipeline was hit by drones

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(07-30-2019 11:42 AM)Knight of Malta Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 07:13 AM)Sword and Board Wrote:  Slightly off topic But is The U.S, Saudi Arabia and Israel still bombing the living shit out of Yemen and causing mass starvations across the country? So little of that situation has ever made the media. Can anyone explain whats happening there and why it has been so secretive?

Yes, the Saudis and the US are still operating in Yemen. The usual reason given is because of the Houthi takeover, but really the war in Yemen has always been about oil pipelines and ports for the Saudis. As part of the preparations for a war with Iran they want to create alternative routes for their oil to lessen their dependence on shipping through the Persian Gulf where it's obviously vulnerable.

In 2018 it was only barely reported in the media, and not in any Western MSM that I could find, that they began constructing the pipeline through the Al-Mahrah governorate in eastern Yemen, along the border with Oman.

Saudi Arabia prepares to extend oil pipeline through Yemen to Arabian Sea - Middle East Monitor (September 2018)

Saudi Arabia 'to build oil port' in Yemen's al-Mahra - Al Jazeera (August 2018)

These provide some of the basic info, the Saudis and Emiratis are going to extend an oil pipeline from the Saudi border through eastern Yemen to a port on the southern coast of the country, on the Arabian Sea. It's an alternative that will bypass the Strait. That is what the Yemen war is mainly about.

Also I noticed as I was searching for those articles, the Houthis just recently attacked an oil pipeline in Saudi Arabia itself with drones, and in particular this is an east-west pipeline that sends oil from the eastern region by the Gulf to the western region along the Red Sea. In other words, it is another alternative route that bypasses the Gulf. Could just be a coincidence, but probably not. Saudi Arabia says its oil pipeline was hit by drones

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The Iran situation has fallen out of the MSM cycle. Trump, the deep state, will handle this after the election.
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Its a long ball game. Venezuela and Iran are still targets because of what they haveI'm still waiting for John Bolton to be ushered out as some MAGA guys were harping on about some weeks ago but I guess Trump has other things to do.
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(07-25-2019 10:50 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Most of them are Sunni in the UK so who know knows if they hold their Shia fellows in high regard if the West bombs them.

They'd probably cheer and set fire to the iran embassy or something.

Arabs and jews both hate persians and Shia is really nothing but persian islam.

They hate persians because persians are not desert gangsters like they are. Persians speak a european language, proto-persian is actually descended from the Afanasevo culture, which came from Germany about 4000 years ago.

So persians actually speak a form of early german.

Now maybe it's genetic or something, but arabs and jews hate persians, probably because they instinctively sense that difference.
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The UK released the iranian tanker. Not a lot of coverage for this. lol.

Iranian still haven't released the UK tanker, though.
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(08-20-2019 06:05 PM)lookslikeit Wrote:  The UK released the iranian tanker. Not a lot of coverage for this. lol.

Iranian still haven't released the UK tanker, though.

Why should Iran release the UK tanker. The UK tanker was in violation of all sorts of things. If Iran just up and releases the UK tanker it will look like a tit-for-tat sorta thing.
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(08-08-2019 08:57 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  
(07-25-2019 10:50 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Most of them are Sunni in the UK so who know knows if they hold their Shia fellows in high regard if the West bombs them.

They'd probably cheer and set fire to the iran embassy or something.

Arabs and jews both hate persians and Shia is really nothing but persian islam.

They hate persians because persians are not desert gangsters like they are. Persians speak a european language, proto-persian is actually descended from the Afanasevo culture, which came from Germany about 4000 years ago.

So persians actually speak a form of early german.

Now maybe it's genetic or something, but arabs and jews hate persians, probably because they instinctively sense that difference.

The vast majority of Muslims in the UK are not Arab. They're mostly Pakistani and Bangladeshi.
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(08-20-2019 11:34 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  
(08-08-2019 08:57 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  
(07-25-2019 10:50 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Most of them are Sunni in the UK so who know knows if they hold their Shia fellows in high regard if the West bombs them.

They'd probably cheer and set fire to the iran embassy or something.

Arabs and jews both hate persians and Shia is really nothing but persian islam.

They hate persians because persians are not desert gangsters like they are. Persians speak a european language, proto-persian is actually descended from the Afanasevo culture, which came from Germany about 4000 years ago.

So persians actually speak a form of early german.

Now maybe it's genetic or something, but arabs and jews hate persians, probably because they instinctively sense that difference.

The vast majority of Muslims in the UK are not Arab. They're mostly Pakistani and Bangladeshi.

Yes and no.

Its changing buddy. The Iraqis and Afghans who are coming are also Sunni. So are the Sudanese, the Libyans, Algerians Egyptians - fuck it - the WHOLE muslim world is now settling/ settled in the UK.

And people like the Ahmadis are playing both sides of the fence, the whole don't disrespect my Islam card.. as they cower in the presence of largely Sunni neighbours.
Who are actually killing them.

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So on the heels of Bolton's firing there was a cruise missile attack on a Saudi oil field. Hmmm ok ok...

...oh and what's that? The culprit is Iran?? I would've never thought of it! MSM all over it, just look at the headlines...

Fox News: Saudi Arabia oil facility attack launched from Iranian soil, US officials say

CNBC: Brent crude oil spikes the most in history after Saudi attacks, last up 12%

Washington Examiner: How we know Iran attacked Saudi Arabia

Just like the Russia hoax this is becoming so obvious they apparently don't even care anymore. It's a miracle Trump has kept us out of a war with them for this long. But this time it's not just crying kids on TV...it's gonna hit your wallet with higher gas prices. Guess they couldn't let gas prices drop for even a moment after Bolton's firing.
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RE: The coming war with Iran
Saudi Arabia was going to make a cut in their oil supply anyways..... nice the Iranians did it for them

Perfect that Iran show's to the bomb treaty goverments that Trump is right

The same old rats of course (china and russia) defend another sick regime

All Iran bought was more trouble for it's country

At some point an internal rebellion will happen
One reason for this is a very young on avg population (under 35) .... as you can see how internet millenials are reacting to old world games in hong kong and russia

Regardless this is a complex religious tribal matter with proxies groups or governments (yemen qatar isreal) all playing murderous games.... these games will never end

In the interim...Irans population ain't going to like the ripping up of a bomb treaty and more sanctions coming
and Saudi free payback drone hits coming to Iran (or USA directed surgical strikes)

............LIFE isn't a DRESS REHEARSAL.........
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RE: The coming war with Iran
(09-16-2019 12:03 PM)Incubus Wrote:  Saudi Arabia was going to make a cut in their oil supply anyways..... nice the Iranians did it for them

Perfect that Iran show's to the bomb treaty goverments that Trump is right

The same old rats of course (china and russia) defend another sick regime

All Iran bought was more trouble for it's country

At some point an internal rebellion will happen
One reason for this is a very young on avg population (under 35) .... as you can see how internet millenials are reacting to old world games in hong kong and russia

Regardless this is a complex religious tribal matter with proxies groups or governments (yemen qatar isreal) all playing murderous games.... these games will never end

In the interim...Irans population ain't going to like the ripping up of a bomb treaty and more sanctions coming
and Saudi free payback drone hits coming to Iran (or USA directed surgical strikes)

Dude, at some point you have to stop being neoconed, your post is straight out of 2005.

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RE: The coming war with Iran
What part was 2005 dude?

Iran A bomb work and treaty

Majority of Iranians millenial and internet connected

Saudi Arabia as a target

More active involvement by China with same old from Russia

Nope dude... 2005 was same old religous tribal hate between mid east countries.

I win.... next

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RE: The coming war with Iran
Simple question: Why are no casualties being reported after 50% of Saudi's oil production being taken out?

Is the average American really that fucking stupid to not see through this?

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(09-16-2019 02:58 PM)Incubus Wrote:  What part was 2005 dude?

Iran A bomb work and treaty

Majority of Iranians millenial and internet connected

Saudi Arabia as a target

More active involvement by China with same old from Russia

Nope dude... 2005 was same old religous tribal hate between mid east countries.

I win.... next

The part where "surgical strikes" can be done against Iran outside of a initiating or continuing major regional war. Also, the part about assuming "the youth" are going to be hip and supportive of "modern democracy" bombing them instead of pissed off. Because "everyone knows" derealized "internet millenials" do things other than vegatate and emit utterances increasingly out of concordance with reality.

Iran and Turkey are the heavies in the region. War on Iran is likely to turn the non-Islamic State portion of Iraq US hostile... again. It's hard to pull of a surgical stike/shock and awe victory against a big country that's been preparing for that for decades.

Yes, the US can drop a lot of ordinance and materiel on Iran. That does not mean Iran is incapable of fighting back more effectively than Saddam who passively sat back and let the USG build up and then run their playbook exactly as they wanted to taking a purely reactive/defensive position.

Meanwhile the US is still ineffectively fighting the Taliban. The Taliban diplomats have been declaring their ability to keep fighting the US for however many generations it takes for the US to stop forcing war on Afghanistan.

The US military as presently constructed and indoctrinated is not set up to win wars or nation build. They are set up to drop bombs, try to destabilize countries, and spend as much national treasure as possible doing so. Need we forget the leadership of Seal Team 7 was recently sacked for promoting a culture which accepted killing enemy combatants.

Honestly, it looks like the only route to a truly peaceful solution that increases regional stability is probably Iran does some A-bomb tests and then a North Korea style detente and de-escalation commences.
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RE: The coming war with Iran
(09-16-2019 02:58 PM)Incubus Wrote:  What part was 2005 dude?

Iran A bomb work and treaty

Majority of Iranians millenial and internet connected

Saudi Arabia as a target

More active involvement by China with same old from Russia

Nope dude... 2005 was same old religous tribal hate between mid east countries.

I win.... next


If you have such a hard on for war why not just sign on to the U.S. military? You realize it's pretty easy for a canadian to enlist for the U.S. armed forces right?

Might as well fight and die for the country and people you truly believe in. Maybe as a cherry on top you can also inquire about volunteering for the IDF as a human bullet shield.
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