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(08-02-2019 01:13 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 02:59 AM)Prufrock Wrote:  A reminder, about 2/3rds of the way through Bad Lieutenant, I realized I had yet to hear the Schooly D song that interpolates the Led Zeppelin song "Kashmir," which is repeated throughout the movie. I looked it up and it turns out that Jimmy Page successfully sued to get the song taken off of the soundtrack! So track down a VHS copy if you are able to. It's a movie that deserves the VCR treatment anyway...

I needed a healthy dose of ear bleach after that listening to that garbage. I listened to Heart's live performance of "Stairway to Heaven" at the Kennedy Center honoring Led Zeppelin. Note Jimmy Page's unrestrained joy while listening.




Yes that's a good one and you're right, that Schooly D thing was garbage. No wonder Page sued to get rid of it.
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(08-02-2019 03:02 PM)Malone Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 01:13 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 02:59 AM)Prufrock Wrote:  A reminder, about 2/3rds of the way through Bad Lieutenant, I realized I had yet to hear the Schooly D song that interpolates the Led Zeppelin song "Kashmir," which is repeated throughout the movie. I looked it up and it turns out that Jimmy Page successfully sued to get the song taken off of the soundtrack! So track down a VHS copy if you are able to. It's a movie that deserves the VCR treatment anyway...

I needed a healthy dose of ear bleach after that listening to that garbage. I listened to Heart's live performance of "Stairway to Heaven" at the Kennedy Center honoring Led Zeppelin. Note Jimmy Page's unrestrained joy while listening.

Yes that's a good one and you're right, that Schooly D thing was garbage. No wonder Page sued to get rid of it.

Fair enough, it's not my favorite song of all-time, and I would probably never listen to it by itself, but it adds a great deal of character to the movie. It's not a nice movie. It is basically a trip through the depths of hell!

Led Zeppelin, along with Nirvana, was my favorite band from the ages of 12-15. But that doesn't change the fact that Jimmy Page made a lot of money ripping off dead black blues musicians (Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters, Willie Dixon, Howlin' Wolf, Bukka White, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Blind Willie Johnson, Sonny Boy Williamson), and Joan Baez (among others). I'm not going to shed a tear for him being offended by an interpolation of one of his (derivative) songs. Also, The Puff Daddy version of Kashmir is objectively worse...

Here is another song that appears throughout Bad Lieutenant that might resonate a bit more. Johnny Ace killed himself in a game of Russian Roulette at the peak of his fame. Which fits, as Harvey the Bad Lieutenant is basically playing an elaborate game of Russian Roulette throughout the move...





PS - If anyone wants to view the movie with the original OST send me a PM and I will send you a link. Cheers!

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What is the biggest difference between Schooly D's version of Kashmir and Puff Daddy's? I'm guessing it's a whole lot of money in Jimmy Page's pocket...




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Just when you thought Hollywood couldn't get less original, now there's another movie version of a Broadway musical like Les Miserables and Phantom of the Opera.

They don't look like cats, they look like cat people with human faces. You'd think they would put in some effort to make the faces more feline.

At least with the musical, there was face paint to actually make them look like Cats in the Broadway show.

But still, furries will probably go see it. I think the last Star Wars film will probably take out the competition around it's release.
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(08-04-2019 08:45 PM)Kurgan Wrote:  




Just when you thought Hollywood couldn't get less original, now there's another movie version of a Broadway musical like Les Miserables and Phantom of the Opera.

They don't look like cats, they look like cat people with human faces. You'd think they would put in some effort to make the faces more feline.

At least with the musical, there was face paint to actually make them look like Cats in the Broadway show.

But still, furries will probably go see it. I think the last Star Wars film will probably take out the competition around it's release.

It's true:





Musical with makeup budget in the hundreds beats Hollywood with digital makeup budget in the millions.

I noted quite a few furry crap - the Sonic animation disaster is another nod to the furry "community".
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Del Toro will Ruin Pinocchio
This doesn't surprise me.

https://variety.com/2019/film/features/g...203293595/

Quote:It’s essentially a very brutalist fable about what a sin disobedience is. And I think disobedience is the beginning of the will, and the beginning of choice. … I think there’s something that’s very attractive about seeing disobedience as a virtue, or as the beginning of a virtue.”

Del Toro completely misses what Pinocchio is about. It's about the dead-end of hedonism and selfishness. By seeing limits to behavior (like, horror of horrors actually going to school rather than playing hookey with Honest John) as a form of oppression he will twist the story 180', validating the self-destructive spiral of Pleasure Island. The guy is sick, sick, sick. This post could very well belong in the Clown World thread.
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I've gotten some good movie recs from this thread. Bout to watch The Survivalist now.

I'm trying to figure out the name of a movie I've seen but have forgotten. The plot is basically two married guys steal a few million dollars from their employer. They're having dinner with their wives at home and a dinner guest shows up to rob them of their money. The dinner guest is well-dressed in a blue suit and drives a motorcycle in the end.

Anyone know what film this is?
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Watched UPGRADE recently - it was a somewhat decent movie with little wokeness aside from a non-gendered female super-hacker who is in the movie for a few minutes.

It's just bad that they tone down the wokeness with lower-budget movies - though in this case a higher budget is not that necessary. They made it look good with little money - let's you wonder what those studios blast hundreds of millions on in many cases.

Dark Phoenix looked like shit and it cost over 200 mio. $.
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(08-12-2019 01:21 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Watched UPGRADE recently - it was a somewhat decent movie with little wokeness aside from a non-gendered female super-hacker who is in the movie for a few minutes.

It's just bad that they tone down the wokeness with lower-budget movies - though in this case a higher budget is not that necessary. They made it look good with little money - let's you wonder what those studios blast hundreds of millions on in many cases.

Dark Phoenix looked like shit and it cost over 200 mio. $.

Upgrade was one of my favourite movie in years. I did not watch any trailers and didn't have a lot of expectation and it blew my mind. I'm a fan of Logan Marshall-Green. Good actor.

Check out TV Series Quarry same actor as Upgrade:



Very little wokeness and brutal action scenes. The main actor will do one big Beta move but I can't tell you exactly what without spoiler you the story. It's just one season but well worth to watch it.
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Tail Gunner suggested this movie in the God Pill Thread:

(08-14-2019 11:56 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  I am not a Catholic, but I happened across the 1952 film "The Miracle of Our Lady of Fatima" in the local library and decided to watch it. It was quite inspiring and it also juxtaposed the hope and charity of Christianity versus the evils of the communist government of Portugal. This was back when Hollywood still made family-oriented Christian films. I recommend watching it.




So I watched it.

I was expecting a slow movie, my wife thought she would fall asleep, but it turns out that it's a quite lively, fast paced, well written and well acted movie.

It was nice to see as well that society hadn't yet degenerated at every basic level, as even the bad guys in the film are polite, despite their ill intentions. Contrasted to now where even the good ones are loud and crass. The children too, so well behaved. And, as we'll discuss in a moment, this is pure americana, despite being set in Portugal what it's really about is Christian America vs Atheist Soviet Union. So despite thinking the 50s as Utopia is a myth, I can certainly understand the nostalgia.

It's these little things though that make watching old movies such a nice experience, because the world hadn't yet reached the point of no return: the sexual revolution. This movie was very well done, and it has a good message - when was the last time those two came out of hollywood together?

There are two things that detract from it:

1. The bad guys are Communists, with a capital C. Well, the historical fact is that the Communist Party as such, like hammer and sickle, was only founded years later (1921) and never really was in power. The First Republic was a rapidly succeeding line of radical leftist governments, but there was never a soviet type control. It was the opposite, it was chaos. Major cities in constant upheaval, political groups in jail, then rioting, getting power and putting their enemies in jail. And they all hated Christ and his Church. So all were heavy handed on the clergy and religious practice. Because this was done during the height of the cold war, it's understandable they would depict the ruling party as a classic, soviet type. But it's just not accurate.

2. The Portuguese accent, culture, etc. I suppose every non-American has dealt with this whenever Americans depict their culture. In this case, Portugal is basically Mexico. We don't say señor, or olé, our accent is not hispanic, our names are not hispanic either and our music is not 'sad mariachi'. At some point I just had to imagine I was watching a similar, but unrelated story, taking place in South America.

But these two things should not matter for a general enjoyment of the film, and they didn't to me.

There's one character, which I think was made up, of a good natured outsider leading-man, that doesn't really believe the miracles throughout the movie but helps the children and because of his charisma commands a lot of the earthly arrangements around the story. At some point Lucia says that the Holy Mother is working through him, despite his unbelief. In the end, he is convinced and converts in a very beautiful moment, paraphrasing from Scripture: 'only the fools say: there is no God'.

4/5 - WWA - Would Watch Again

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(08-17-2019 04:10 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  And, as we'll discuss in a moment, this is pure americana, despite being set in Portugal what it's really about is Christian America vs Atheist Soviet Union.

Ok so capitalist jews vs communist jews ..

(08-17-2019 04:10 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  It's these little things though that make watching old movies such a nice experience, because the world hadn't yet reached the point of no return: the sexual revolution.

Where did the sexual revolution come from though, christian america or atheist soviet union ?

Also lol about portugal not being mexico ..
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(08-17-2019 05:04 AM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  Ok so capitalist jews vs communist jews ..

Where did the sexual revolution come from though, christian america or atheist soviet union ?

you're right on both, although likely we have different interpretations on the christian vs. atheist influence.

I still think the movie is good overall. If there was any subversion, I didn't see it.

I thought the children, especially, were the kind we don't see anymore in entertainment and be good role models for your children, when you consider what kind of movies they should watch.

Parents give little to no attention to what entertainment their children consume, and nowadays that is very dangerous on so many levels. I am glad to have found a movie that was both engaging and provided good values. Exactly as Tail Gunner suggested.

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Finally watched "the wandering earth" on Netflix. I thought it was really good, one of the better movies I've seen in 2019.
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(08-17-2019 05:21 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  Parents give little to no attention to what entertainment their children consume, and nowadays that is very dangerous on so many levels.

You have no idea.

I once showed 2 minutes of cars (the disney movie, the first one, seemed innocuous enough on first sight, commentaries welcome ..) on youtube to my son, I turn my head at some point and youtube goes on to the next auto-suggested video :
A truck running at full speed over towels and umbrellas on a beach - basically a 3d animation recreation of the nice terror attack !
There were no people being ran over but it was heavily implied, giving a totally eerie feeling to the video, a big WTF from me when I saw that ..

The elsagate or whatever it's called is far from over.
You can't trust these people for anything, fuck them and fuck their "services", I'm never again using that without extremely heavy-handed supervision.

Also the thing is that when you watch a video they then suggest to you what "most other people" viewed afterwards, and I don't know why but even when it's actually harmless it's usually some very (very) stupid stuff.
The paranoid/conspiracy view would be to say it's done on purpose to dumb people down.
My occam's razor view is simply that "most other people" are stupid already and watch stupid stuff and this is why you get this recommended to you.

Anyway, point taken for your movie, I'm fond of old stuff so why not try this one.
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Excellent new interview with Quentin Tarantino from the BBC. Lots of movie clips:



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(08-17-2019 12:59 PM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  
(08-17-2019 05:21 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  Parents give little to no attention to what entertainment their children consume, and nowadays that is very dangerous on so many levels.

You have no idea.

I once showed 2 minutes of cars (the disney movie, the first one, seemed innocuous enough on first sight, commentaries welcome ..) on youtube to my son, I turn my head at some point and youtube goes on to the next auto-suggested video :
A truck running at full speed over towels and umbrellas on a beach - basically a 3d animation recreation of the nice terror attack !
There were no people being ran over but it was heavily implied, giving a totally eerie feeling to the video, a big WTF from me when I saw that ..

The elsagate or whatever it's called is far from over.
You can't trust these people for anything, fuck them and fuck their "services", I'm never again using that without extremely heavy-handed supervision.

Also the thing is that when you watch a video they then suggest to you what "most other people" viewed afterwards, and I don't know why but even when it's actually harmless it's usually some very (very) stupid stuff.
The paranoid/conspiracy view would be to say it's done on purpose to dumb people down.
My occam's razor view is simply that "most other people" are stupid already and watch stupid stuff and this is why you get this recommended to you.

Anyway, point taken for your movie, I'm fond of old stuff so why not try this one.

To think that Hollywood once produced TV shows with real life lessons -- for both children and adults:



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I rented Captain Marvel from the library recently and it's like every other MCU movie: A TV episode on the big screen. I don't watch TV often due to work and grad school.

I found Brie Larson to be very wooden in her acting and she looked like she was pissed off all of the time. It didn't help that I saw the videos of her thinking she was being personally attacked and that one group interview for Avengers: Endgame made her look arrogant.

At least with Shazam, Zachary Levi looked like he was enjoying playing a kid in an adult body.
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< Captain Marvel has no character arc, she only needs to throw back the patriarchal oppression holding her back. The men are all chumps and ineffectual, Nick Fury is a moron getting his eye scratched out by a cat. It's a SJW MCU movie with an increasingly ham-fisted agenda. Even Endgame destroyed characters like the Hulk and Captain America, gave Captain Marvel bitch a more prominent place. Thanos punched out the toxic Hulk with his muscles alone, but needed a power-stone for Captain Marvel, because that Mary Sue almost beat him - even in pure muscle power.

The new creators of the Widow movie are insulting already the fan-base while the female Thor is under way and there the director is also spewing venom. the MCU is done.
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(08-18-2019 01:02 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  < Captain Marvel has no character arc, she only needs to throw back the patriarchal oppression holding her back. The men are all chumps and ineffectual, Nick Fury is a moron getting his eye scratched out by a cat. It's a SJW MCU movie with an increasingly ham-fisted agenda. Even Endgame destroyed characters like the Hulk and Captain America, gave Captain Marvel bitch a more prominent place. Thanos punched out the toxic Hulk with his muscles alone, but needed a power-stone for Captain Marvel, because that Mary Sue almost beat him - even in pure muscle power.

The new creators of the Widow movie are insulting already the fan-base while the female Thor is under way and there the director is also spewing venom. the MCU is done.

I am glad that I stopped watching all that superhero crap a few years ago. The last two SH films that I watched were "Dr. Strange" and "Wonder Woman." Both were good, so I ended the run on a high note. Oh wait, I unfortunately watched "Venom," which stunk so bad that I could not even finish it.

At this point, I have SH fatigue and I have no desire to watch such films -- especially the ones with story lines that continue like long TV show episodes. I get depressed when I think about all the true art films that are not being made because of the time and money spent creating this garbage.
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Has anyone seen the movie Birthday Girl with
Nicole Kidman?

Its about a guy that gets a Russian Bride.
I'm interested in going to Ukrane as well, so looking forward to seeing it soon.
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I just watched the Disney film "John Carter of Mars," which I enjoyed. It is an old-style adventure story based on the Barsoom Series, written by Edgar Rice Burroughs in the 1910's-1920's, published in newspapers and magazines, and eventually collected into books.

It is a classic science fiction / fantasy film without much SJW garbage, except for a sword fighting princess of Mars, which was probably part of the original story. Burroughs created the idea of ships that sailed on light even before solar power was invented. As an Earthman, John Carter has great strength in the low gravity of Mars, so he was an early superhero (kind of like Superman, who had great strength because he came from another world). Worth a watch.

BTW: There is also a very interesting subplot about a small group of men hidden within society (on both Earth and Mars) who intentionally cause societal strife and violence for the purpose of feeding off it. Considering what is happening in modern society, that subplot may resonate with some viewers.



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A little late but Tarantino's new movie is really great. A slow burn but in a good way. Definitely worth paying attention as I spent the movie pointing out things to my buddy that he hadn't caught on to. The final scene of the movie was *very* satisfying
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Most of the current propaganda is simply missed - it's not only used in terms of symbolism, but real undercurrent subliminal messaging that permeates even supposedly SJW-free movies like Wonderwoman:





The tropes are simply to replace all male heroes with female one which do not work, because they make the women just into men with little clit-dicks - only better and smarter. And all the male heroes just prop up the women.

+ feminism
+ anti-Western tropes
+ anti-Christian tropes (gotta see the first movie yet where the hero destroys a synagogue in order to get to a sharpshooter who has hidden himself in there)
+ forced irrational diversity pushing on every front
+ environmental propaganda (that pertains also to making fuel a major plot point pointing to that terrible never-seen scarcity in universes like Star Wars)
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The Yoji Yamada Samurai Trilogy is great. All 3 films depict masculine gentleman and soft feminine women. Great stories of honor.



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(08-20-2019 10:26 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  I just watched the Disney film "John Carter of Mars," which I enjoyed. It is an old-style adventure story based on the Barsoom Series, written by Edgar Rice Burroughs in the 1910's-1920's, published in newspapers and magazines, and eventually collected into books.

It is a classic science fiction / fantasy film without much SJW garbage, except for a sword fighting princess of Mars, which was probably part of the original story. Burroughs created the idea of ships that sailed on light even before solar power was invented. As an Earthman, John Carter has great strength in the low gravity of Mars, so he was an early superhero (kind of like Superman, who had great strength because he came from another world). Worth a watch.

BTW: There is also a very interesting subplot about a small group of men hidden within society (on both Earth and Mars) who intentionally cause societal strife and violence for the purpose of feeding off it. Considering what is happening in modern society, that subplot may resonate with some viewers.




The movie is actually surprisingly faithful to the books, given that this is a 100 year old property with no substantial IP holder fighting for proper adaptation.

The movie blends some elements from the 1st and 2nd books together. But the major plotline beats are done well.
Some of the noticeable deviations are at the beginning, when the film goes out of its way to depict the US Military as aggressive/evil rather than the AmerIndians. Dejah Thoris is far more action-heroine in this film too. In the book, the most she does aggressively is shine a light. The book never presents human women as equal to men as fighters, as that's not particularly credible in this swashbuckling type of tale. The books' depiction of the Tharks (15ft green men) would probably be considered extremely offensive today, though it's simply honest rather than propagandistic.

I read the books some time ago mixed in with some other modern fiction, and aside from the 1st book (which isn't great, it has rocky pacing) I found them more entertaining than the contemporary works.
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