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(08-07-2019 11:32 PM)Paig3 Wrote:  Here are my thoughts about Montreal/Vancouver.

Montreal

pros:

Unbelievably beautiful city. One of my favorite cities in NA.
Great food/coffee
Relatively inexpensive
Decent racial blend (let's not start a holywar here)

cons:

Winter. If you don't like winter - stay away. I like winter. So for me it's not a con.

Vancouver:

Pros:

Nature/climate. Definitely better.
I think that's pretty much it.
Close to WA.

Cons:

I like asians but Vancouver is like a branch of Hong-Kong. Not only that, but people really like to show of there. I have a certain background where I was close enough to some billionaires and I have never seen anything like that in my life except in Vancouver - everybody is showing off. For me that's gross. But if you like it - you might as well enjoy it.

Other than that it's just a preference of climate/location - if you like winter - stay in Montreal. If you don't - stay in Vancouver.

I want to come back to Montreal, but I don't want to come back to Vancouver/Toronto. Montreal is just a little cozy european city in the middle of NA. If only I could make my american paycheck there...

Thanks for the heads up!

I was thinking that Vancouver might be a good place for a Chinese guy who needs to tend to business back home while finding a decent supply of friendly white girls. Although I'm just hypothesizing for the longer term future and this question won't come up at least for years. In the short term future, I'll most likely be in the US.

From what I've heard and been reading, local whites and Chinese don't really get along that well and are rather segregated from each other. I wonder if Vancouver has a decent concentration of preppy/country blondes. As far as North American girls go, I'd rather focus on that type.

I've been to Montreal, and it does very much feel like a major European capital with North American cars. However, it seems that French is absolutely required to get ahead, is rather business-unfriendly, and gets very cold in the winter. Its a decent place to visit as long as you have French skills though, and could be a decent place for French people to move to.
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RE: Living in Vancouver compared to Montreal
(08-07-2019 11:32 PM)Paig3 Wrote:  Here are my thoughts about Montreal/Vancouver.

Montreal

pros:

Unbelievably beautiful city. One of my favorite cities in NA.
Great food/coffee
Relatively inexpensive
Decent racial blend (let's not start a holywar here)

cons:

Winter. If you don't like winter - stay away. I like winter. So for me it's not a con.

Vancouver:

Pros:

Nature/climate. Definitely better.
I think that's pretty much it.
Close to WA.

Cons:

I like asians but Vancouver is like a branch of Hong-Kong. Not only that, but people really like to show of there. I have a certain background where I was close enough to some billionaires and I have never seen anything like that in my life except in Vancouver - everybody is showing off. For me that's gross. But if you like it - you might as well enjoy it.

Other than that it's just a preference of climate/location - if you like winter - stay in Montreal. If you don't - stay in Vancouver.

I want to come back to Montreal, but I don't want to come back to Vancouver/Toronto. Montreal is just a little cozy european city in the middle of NA. If only I could make my american paycheck there...

interesting , rarely saw someone who likes winter , specially Montreal winter ? i bet you dont drive , because you have no idea how life is hard and time you loose taking care of your car , getting tikets , shoveling ice and snow , driving ...

I think if not the cost of living , i am trying to see how much i would spend more in Vancouver compared to MTL , i would move to Vancouver 100%
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RE: Living in Vancouver compared to Montreal
(08-08-2019 12:53 AM)Aquarius Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 11:32 PM)Paig3 Wrote:  Here are my thoughts about Montreal/Vancouver.

Montreal

pros:

Unbelievably beautiful city. One of my favorite cities in NA.
Great food/coffee
Relatively inexpensive
Decent racial blend (let's not start a holywar here)

cons:

Winter. If you don't like winter - stay away. I like winter. So for me it's not a con.

Vancouver:

Pros:

Nature/climate. Definitely better.
I think that's pretty much it.
Close to WA.

Cons:

I like asians but Vancouver is like a branch of Hong-Kong. Not only that, but people really like to show of there. I have a certain background where I was close enough to some billionaires and I have never seen anything like that in my life except in Vancouver - everybody is showing off. For me that's gross. But if you like it - you might as well enjoy it.

Other than that it's just a preference of climate/location - if you like winter - stay in Montreal. If you don't - stay in Vancouver.

I want to come back to Montreal, but I don't want to come back to Vancouver/Toronto. Montreal is just a little cozy european city in the middle of NA. If only I could make my american paycheck there...

Thanks for the heads up!

I was thinking that Vancouver might be a good place for a Chinese guy who needs to tend to business back home while finding a decent supply of friendly white girls. Although I'm just hypothesizing for the longer term future and this question won't come up at least for years. In the short term future, I'll most likely be in the US.

From what I've heard and been reading, local whites and Chinese don't really get along that well and are rather segregated from each other. I wonder if Vancouver has a decent concentration of preppy/country blondes. As far as North American girls go, I'd rather focus on that type.

I've been to Montreal, and it does very much feel like a major European capital with North American cars. However, it seems that French is absolutely required to get ahead, is rather business-unfriendly, and gets very cold in the winter. Its a decent place to visit as long as you have French skills though, and could be a decent place for French people to move to.

have questions for you :

1- you think that many hong kong immigrants will move to vancouver soon , why would asians only move there ( why not Toronto , there are big asian community in Toronto , specially in markham)

2- Montreal is truely a bilingual city , i would say , you can live in MTL only speaking english but not only speaking french ( people who speaks french in MTL , do speak english , but not the opposite)

3- WHY do you think Montral is business unfreindly ?? i really want to know this .. i am planning to open a buiness . I have more connections in Montreal (because many people from my home country live there , and i am better in french than english) but i really want to move to Vancouver , if i find good reasons for that.
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RE: Living in Vancouver compared to Montreal
(08-08-2019 10:48 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 11:32 PM)Paig3 Wrote:  Here are my thoughts about Montreal/Vancouver.

Montreal

pros:

Unbelievably beautiful city. One of my favorite cities in NA.
Great food/coffee
Relatively inexpensive
Decent racial blend (let's not start a holywar here)

cons:

Winter. If you don't like winter - stay away. I like winter. So for me it's not a con.

Vancouver:

Pros:

Nature/climate. Definitely better.
I think that's pretty much it.
Close to WA.

Cons:

I like asians but Vancouver is like a branch of Hong-Kong. Not only that, but people really like to show of there. I have a certain background where I was close enough to some billionaires and I have never seen anything like that in my life except in Vancouver - everybody is showing off. For me that's gross. But if you like it - you might as well enjoy it.

Other than that it's just a preference of climate/location - if you like winter - stay in Montreal. If you don't - stay in Vancouver.

I want to come back to Montreal, but I don't want to come back to Vancouver/Toronto. Montreal is just a little cozy european city in the middle of NA. If only I could make my american paycheck there...

interesting , rarely saw someone who likes winter , specially Montreal winter ? i bet you dont drive , because you have no idea how life is hard and time you loose taking care of your car , getting tikets , shoveling ice and snow , driving ...

I think if not the cost of living , i am trying to see how much i would spend more in Vancouver compared to MTL , i would move to Vancouver 100%

I like winter. It takes a good AWD car on blizzaks + $1000 on winter clothes to like it. I'm on US East coast now and go to Canada in winter specifically for winter. believe it or not. I eat an edible, put on my winter clothes on and browse Montreal streets. It's a beauty of life.


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(08-08-2019 10:54 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  
(08-08-2019 12:53 AM)Aquarius Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 11:32 PM)Paig3 Wrote:  Here are my thoughts about Montreal/Vancouver.

Montreal

pros:

Unbelievably beautiful city. One of my favorite cities in NA.
Great food/coffee
Relatively inexpensive
Decent racial blend (let's not start a holywar here)

cons:

Winter. If you don't like winter - stay away. I like winter. So for me it's not a con.

Vancouver:

Pros:

Nature/climate. Definitely better.
I think that's pretty much it.
Close to WA.

Cons:

I like asians but Vancouver is like a branch of Hong-Kong. Not only that, but people really like to show of there. I have a certain background where I was close enough to some billionaires and I have never seen anything like that in my life except in Vancouver - everybody is showing off. For me that's gross. But if you like it - you might as well enjoy it.

Other than that it's just a preference of climate/location - if you like winter - stay in Montreal. If you don't - stay in Vancouver.

I want to come back to Montreal, but I don't want to come back to Vancouver/Toronto. Montreal is just a little cozy european city in the middle of NA. If only I could make my american paycheck there...

Thanks for the heads up!

I was thinking that Vancouver might be a good place for a Chinese guy who needs to tend to business back home while finding a decent supply of friendly white girls. Although I'm just hypothesizing for the longer term future and this question won't come up at least for years. In the short term future, I'll most likely be in the US.

From what I've heard and been reading, local whites and Chinese don't really get along that well and are rather segregated from each other. I wonder if Vancouver has a decent concentration of preppy/country blondes. As far as North American girls go, I'd rather focus on that type.

I've been to Montreal, and it does very much feel like a major European capital with North American cars. However, it seems that French is absolutely required to get ahead, is rather business-unfriendly, and gets very cold in the winter. Its a decent place to visit as long as you have French skills though, and could be a decent place for French people to move to.
but i really want to move to Vancouver , if i find good reasons for that.

why?
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(08-08-2019 11:08 AM)Paig3 Wrote:  
(08-08-2019 10:54 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  
(08-08-2019 12:53 AM)Aquarius Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 11:32 PM)Paig3 Wrote:  Here are my thoughts about Montreal/Vancouver.

Montreal

pros:

Unbelievably beautiful city. One of my favorite cities in NA.
Great food/coffee
Relatively inexpensive
Decent racial blend (let's not start a holywar here)

cons:

Winter. If you don't like winter - stay away. I like winter. So for me it's not a con.

Vancouver:

Pros:

Nature/climate. Definitely better.
I think that's pretty much it.
Close to WA.

Cons:

I like asians but Vancouver is like a branch of Hong-Kong. Not only that, but people really like to show of there. I have a certain background where I was close enough to some billionaires and I have never seen anything like that in my life except in Vancouver - everybody is showing off. For me that's gross. But if you like it - you might as well enjoy it.

Other than that it's just a preference of climate/location - if you like winter - stay in Montreal. If you don't - stay in Vancouver.

I want to come back to Montreal, but I don't want to come back to Vancouver/Toronto. Montreal is just a little cozy european city in the middle of NA. If only I could make my american paycheck there...

Thanks for the heads up!

I was thinking that Vancouver might be a good place for a Chinese guy who needs to tend to business back home while finding a decent supply of friendly white girls. Although I'm just hypothesizing for the longer term future and this question won't come up at least for years. In the short term future, I'll most likely be in the US.

From what I've heard and been reading, local whites and Chinese don't really get along that well and are rather segregated from each other. I wonder if Vancouver has a decent concentration of preppy/country blondes. As far as North American girls go, I'd rather focus on that type.

I've been to Montreal, and it does very much feel like a major European capital with North American cars. However, it seems that French is absolutely required to get ahead, is rather business-unfriendly, and gets very cold in the winter. Its a decent place to visit as long as you have French skills though, and could be a decent place for French people to move to.
but i really want to move to Vancouver , if i find good reasons for that.

why?

I love BC people , i always had good succes with womens from there , love their vibe . Quebecers , french people are cold IMHO

also for the winter itself , i hate Montreal winters
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oh well, maybe our background is a bit different Quebec is the best city I've seen on this continent in terms of population.
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(08-08-2019 05:50 PM)Paig3 Wrote:  oh well, maybe our background is a bit different Quebec is the best city I've seen on this continent in terms of population.

Lets say i have Mediterranean look , dark hair , dark features ( a bit like roosh) and this is so common in Montreal.

Many Quebcers are bit tained and dark compared to others Canadians. if you add that after quebecers , the main immigration in Quebec is France , Italy and Arab countries . And all those have almost same look almost (Mediterranean look)

while in Vancouver those are almost inexistent (mostly British - Asians - Indians ) closest you can have are Iranians but they are not that many.
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After long time thinking , i found this in between solution. It think since Montreal will be the best for my case long term but i dont want to game in the province of quebec , i really hate womens mentality and attitude there(personnal case, i know there are many MTL lovers here).
And since Vancouver is out of my budget ( i can afford it but i would be stressed about money all the time, like i was in Toronto , a city that i loved but the financial stress made me leave TO)

I decided to get a solution in between , which means , a city outisde of Quebec and not that expensive, options are :

- Ottawa
- Edmenton
-Calgary


other than those , it would be so small for my liking .

i only know ottawa between those since i lived there for 1 year , i think ottawa is the smallest between the 3 . i would probably go to Calgary for 99% because its a big city , womens will be less conservative , and many womens will be out of town.. is Calgary much different from Ottawa , for those who been to both ? i found girls in ottawa to be down to earth but still conservative and i hate that.


your thoughts ?
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Edmonton
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Winnipeg. The squaws will love you, and the winters are fantastic.
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(08-11-2019 11:42 AM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  Edmonton
Laugh3

I dont know what makes you laugh ?

there is no many options , considering i only want big citcies. Toronto and Vancouver are so expensive , MTL is shit of thirsty mens, i hate Quebec!. Now you only have 3 others options and Edmonton is one of them
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Calgary is the polar opposite of Ottawa in every way like history, culture, economy, politics, etc.

Edmonton is just ok, the economy is better than Calgary but the latter beats it in every other aspect. Both Alberta cities are reasonably affordable and the taxes are the lowest in the country.

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(08-11-2019 08:22 PM)scotian Wrote:  Calgary is the polar opposite of Ottawa in every way like history, culture, economy, politics, etc.

Edmonton is just ok, the economy is better than Calgary but the latter beats it in every other aspect. Both Alberta cities are reasonably affordable and the taxes are the lowest in the country.

according to Canada statistics , Edmonton have higher unemployement rate than Calagy but between both , i would take calgary for sure ( its a bigger city and full with lost people coming from everywhere , which makes connections and meeting womens easier , even though steroyotypes say that there are more mens than womens in alberta)



i agree with taxes , which is a huge advantage , but that wont matter if you cant find decent job
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The Alberta economy is in the shitter which is why I moved to BC recently, even if Vancouver is more expensive, it’s still a better option due to a stronger economy. COL may be higher, maybe $1000 more per month due to rent, gas, insurance, etc but the jobs pay well, the quality of life is higher and you won’t freeze your balls off in the winter.

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(08-12-2019 08:51 AM)scotian Wrote:  The Alberta economy is in the shitter which is why I moved to BC recently, even if Vancouver is more expensive, it’s still a better option due to a stronger economy. COL may be higher, maybe $1000 more per month due to rent, gas, insurance, etc but the jobs pay well, the quality of life is higher and you won’t freeze your balls off in the winter.

I am also thinking long term , Will this BC boom continues for long time ? would i be able to buy a place in BC (heard from many people that they expect real estate crash those coming years due to news BC laws , can you confirm this) ? will alberta economy still be shit for long time ?
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Been to Montreal. Very nice city.
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Dude it sounds like you’re thinking with your dick too much and moving all over the country based on where you’ll get laid the easiest. You say that you like Toronto but it’s too expensive, perhaps instead of thinking about pussy, you should focus on your career development and making more money so you’ll be able to live wherever you want.

I’ve lived in six provinces as an adult (NS, Qc, Ont, Sask, AB and BC) and I never moved for girls, it was always about work and education and quality of life. There’s girls everywhere man, they aren’t everything a guy should focus on in life. Make some money, the girls will come around.

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(08-12-2019 07:18 PM)scotian Wrote:  Dude it sounds like you’re thinking with your dick too much and moving all over the country based on where you’ll get laid the easiest. You say that you like Toronto but it’s too expensive, perhaps instead of thinking about pussy, you should focus on your career development and making more money so you’ll be able to live wherever you want.

I’ve lived in six provinces as an adult (NS, Qc, Ont, Sask, AB and BC) and I never moved for girls, it was always about work and education and quality of life. There’s girls everywhere man, they aren’t everything a guy should focus on in life. Make some money, the girls will come around.

I dont see why i have talked about womens more than money , yes they are part of my decision but money is first . weather being 3rd.

Womens are also related to money , when you dont like a city , you risk to spend more money and time for womens and your happiness affect your production/ testosterone ....

I just dont enjoy staying in quebec , even though i know i can make more money there , but No thanks.
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Man i have just been confused with these canada threads, i've actually love french girls more than anything, i just find them a joy to be around to be honest. I lived in cities in Canada and getting laid is doable man, you have to focus on going to school and working so you have good logistics. Women like guys that arent available all the time that actually do stuff. I hate idling, im constantly searching things up and working as well.

ive spent time with women from bc and they're nice enough, if you speak french quebec has to be a great place to be. I remember a couple years ago someone was saying quebec was quote "just a special place" then im hearing things that its really bad and guys arent getting laid at all. Roosh even said that he thought montreal was way better than toronto. But i personally get offended when people target french women cause they are just my absolute favorite.

insanity is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, maybe the reason you're struggling trying to build a life is because you're not putting in the work. if you have a good hustle going you can head down to a location with better quality and higher smv as a man part time to reap the benefits. If you're really skilled, then maybe you could even find a very lucrative position somewhere else outside of canada, but getting to that level takes serious education and effort.
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(08-13-2019 03:38 AM)burncushlikewood Wrote:  Man i have just been confused with these canada threads, i've actually love french girls more than anything, i just find them a joy to be around to be honest. I lived in cities in Canada and getting laid is doable man, you have to focus on going to school and working so you have good logistics. Women like guys that arent available all the time that actually do stuff. I hate idling, im constantly searching things up and working as well.

ive spent time with women from bc and they're nice enough, if you speak french quebec has to be a great place to be. I remember a couple years ago someone was saying quebec was quote "just a special place" then im hearing things that its really bad and guys arent getting laid at all. Roosh even said that he thought montreal was way better than toronto. But i personally get offended when people target french women cause they are just my absolute favorite.

insanity is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, maybe the reason you're struggling trying to build a life is because you're not putting in the work. if you have a good hustle going you can head down to a location with better quality and higher smv as a man part time to reap the benefits. If you're really skilled, then maybe you could even find a very lucrative position somewhere else outside of canada, but getting to that level takes serious education and effort.

I will make my story short , i dont have problems killing womens everywhere in Canada , i lived in 4 citcies. My problem is , i feel i am making more effrots in quebec and honnestly dont have time for that , have many projects , planning to open a buisness . and love English canadians , yes they can be bitchy , but if they are not , you are good (For me this is a huge advantage, make me get womens without wasting much time) . Quebcers are more GF material (i am not looking for that , if i want a hot GF , i would get it easily in Quebec), or if you like to date / socialize , more conservative kind of girls IMHO.

* stereotypes of mens loving womens in quebec is coming from north american mens not used to see European type of girls , i left europe to come to North America , so i am in the opposite case .


have question for Vancouver people : is it cheaper to rent downotwn , or rent on burnbay ( plus car fees (insurance and gaz are so expensive in vancouver) . which solution will be cheaper ?
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You kill women bro?

Hello CSIS......

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(08-11-2019 03:47 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  After long time thinking , i found this in between solution. It think since Montreal will be the best for my case long term but i dont want to game in the province of quebec , i really hate womens mentality and attitude there(personnal case, i know there are many MTL lovers here).
And since Vancouver is out of my budget ( i can afford it but i would be stressed about money all the time, like i was in Toronto , a city that i loved but the financial stress made me leave TO)

I decided to get a solution in between , which means , a city outisde of Quebec and not that expensive, options are :

- Ottawa
- Edmenton
-Calgary


other than those , it would be so small for my liking .

i only know ottawa between those since i lived there for 1 year , i think ottawa is the smallest between the 3 . i would probably go to Calgary for 99% because its a big city , womens will be less conservative , and many womens will be out of town.. is Calgary much different from Ottawa , for those who been to both ? i found girls in ottawa to be down to earth but still conservative and i hate that.


your thoughts ?

Calgary.

Live in the Beltline and ditch your car. Save hundreds every month and it will be healthier with the walking. I lived there 3 years, never had a car, was fine.

You can get a rental for road trips or Costco runs or whatever.

Winters are surprisingly reasonable in Calgary, because of the reprieve of Chinooks. Way more sunlight hours than Vancouver. Close to the mountains. Nice blue skies.
08-13-2019 05:28 PM
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RE: Living in Vancouver compared to Montreal
(08-13-2019 10:55 AM)scotian Wrote:  You kill women bro?

Hello CSIS......

Am i supposed to laugh ??


either help if you know some information (that would be nice) , or keep your amazing humour for woems ( iam sure they will love it)
08-13-2019 06:07 PM
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RE: Living in Vancouver compared to Montreal
If you’re going to live in BC, Burnaby is more affordable when it comes to rent and is close in proximity to Vancouver that if you lived near the train it’s a 15 to 20 minute ride. Transit system is very good here. You wouldn’t need a car unless you plan on travelling long distances on the regular.

If you choose to live in dt vancouver, it can be counter intuitive to get a car since everything is so close and very easy to get to and traffic can be a nightmare.
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