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(08-11-2019 02:20 PM)Orson Wrote:  
(08-10-2019 07:14 PM)Bazzwaldo Wrote:  This is what Mossad does when an asset becomes a liability, look out Trump

CAN anyone buff the bona fides of the Mossad, in recent years? Long ago - sure. Isn't Putin far better at execting the Sinister Plot?

Sorry for the late response, I only noticed this today so I’ll clarify my comment
When you say recent years, I’m going to set the 1980’s as recent past given you didn’t quantify it
Epstein’s involvement in child prostitution (using them as sex slaves) for extortion resulted in charges that lead to a sweetheart deal courtesy of his then lawyer, Harvard Professor Allan Dershowitz, presided over by the then magistrate, Alex Acosta.
It was Acosta’s comment ‘I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone’ lead to widespread belief he was referring to a state entity like FBI, CIA or Mossad rather than let’s say, the Italian Mob
So why did I refer to Mossad, not CIA, FBI or Putin?
Using the principles of Occam's razor, which group has access to and a vested interest in politically compromising for instance, the US justice, political and educational system for their own benefit using pedophile recordings suitable for extortion?
Your sinister plot suggesting Putin falls down here, not CIA FBI however…but I’m way out of my league on that topic
There are connections between Epstein and Mossad via Robert Maxwell (mentioned in recent posts), the father of Ghislaine. He spied for Mossad in the 80’s (search for PROMIS and Pegasus software theft)
Epstein was friends with Ehud Barak (Israel Prime Minister) a regular visitor to his Manhattan Apartment (gifted by Leslie Wexner) and to Little St James Island. Barak had links to Black Cube, a defunct branch of Mossad that linked him with Harvey Weinstein Epstein founded and funded Reporty/Carbine with him too.
Steve Pieczenik recently named the Epstein’s pedophile operative ring as a ‘Mossad/Israeli ring that goes back decades and decades’
His business partner Leslie Wexner mentioned earlier is a member of Mega Group comprising of Charles Brofman, Michael Steinhardt and Steven Speilberg, all of whom are Jewish Billionaires, in fact every name I’ve mentioned has that in common, very wealthy Jews
I have no idea who is behind his death except to reiterate what others already have…Mossad has the history, means and motive. I don’t believe for a second he killed himself nor do I think that the Clintons have anything to do with it (smoke screen) or accept that all the other occurrences were just coincidental like no guards, CCTV not operating, no longer needed to be placed on suicide watch 3 weeks after an ‘attempted suicide' etc etc
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Some intriguing things regarding this case, in no particular order:

Why isn't Epstein's associate in France, modelling tzar Jean-Luc B, detained or at least interrogated? Why was Epstein in France so often, with dear Ghislaine? Were they providing Parisian jet-set with prostitutes?

How did Epstein allegedly obtain an Austrian passport, seemingly delivered at the Austrian embassy in Saudi Arabia?

Was Jeffrey Epstein, spending one-third of his time in France, related by blood to the famous Colonel Gilles antinazi WW2 fighter (real name Joseph Epstein, war hero)? Was this why he was chosen as a trusted man, decades ago?

Epstein kidnapped nobody. Why aren't the (non starving) greedy women who willingly accepted his dirty money to blow old customers, charged with exercising prostitution? Is it legal to work as an international prostitute, pay no tax, and later on play the victim?

I mean, the pimp is a bad hombre, but the prostitutes themselves are bad women. Both broke the law, and both out of vice and/or unbridled greed.
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(08-13-2019 02:05 AM)Going strong Wrote:  Some intriguing things regarding this case, in no particular order:

Why isn't Epstein's associate in France, modelling tzar Jean-Luc B, detained or at least interrogated? Why was Epstein in France so often, with dear Ghislaine? Were they providing Parisian jet-set with prostitutes?

How did Epstein allegedly obtain an Austrian passport, seemingly delivered at the Austrian embassy in Saudi Arabia?

Was Jeffrey Epstein, spending one-third of his time in France, related by blood to the famous Colonel Gilles antinazi WW2 fighter (real name Joseph Epstein, war hero)? Was this why he was chosen as a trusted man, decades ago?

Epstein kidnapped nobody. Why aren't the (non starving) greedy women who willingly accepted his dirty money to blow old customers, charged with exercising prostitution? Is it legal to work as an international prostitute, pay no tax, and later on play the victim?

I mean, the pimp is a bad hombre, but the prostitutes themselves are bad women. Both broke the law, and both out of vice and/or unbridled greed.

Not blaming the victim but real talk these victims tend to hit the wall earlier than average. Once women hit the wall they tend to smell the coffee & finally see some reality as I'm sure you know (being in this forum).
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Personally I would think that the bigger story is that of the thousands of women theoretically caught up in this so few have come forward, particularly when there's billions of dollars at stake.

Where are all the expected law suits being aimed at the Epstein estate?
A billionaire criminal just died. What is happening to his estate at all for that matter?
Where are these thousands of former victims (legally speaking, they were underage and therefore victims)?
Doesn't the FBI have gigatons of metadata to sift through every phone of every person that met Epstein at an airfield?
Who are the women/girls that left for Pedo Island and never returned to to their point of departure, nor anywhere else for that matter?
The FBI can find these people in a village in outer-fucking-Cambodia with the press of a button. Why not a dozen of the hundreds if not thousands of girls?

Where?
Are?
They?

This would be the next poison dagger in the chest of the deep state. Even (or especially) the white knight soyfags would be calling for revolution if it came to light that these bastards has a nasty habit of making girls fall off the edge of the world.

This is also the reason neither the FBI nor any other agency will seriously chase all these leads. To expose this stuff would literally compromise the continuity of government. As such you can get away with anything as long as enough high level officials and functionaries are a part of it, because to expose it would rend the entire system to shreds and nobody drawing a paycheck from that same government will ever choose justice over the continuity of their present arrangement.

It would be nice if this question could be hooked to the #MeToo crap along the lines of #WhereAreEpsteinsVictims

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Apparently even Richard Dawkins name is on that passenger list.

Who would have thought that an atheist is into degenerate sick stuff and likes to promote there being no God?
Really makes you think.
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While we worry about Epstein & Maxwell there are probably new replications of these creatures in their 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's operating as we speak. Just food for thought. In a Manhattan (NYC) or Miami (FL) or Los Angeles (CA) club near you.
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This is how things went down in "The Wire".
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Probably the last big one was the French Revolution. While the Revolution itself may or my not have been instigated by TPTB, no one could have forseen the rise of Napoleon. For all of his flaws he is one of the rare true geniuses of history. He had the martial ability as well to back up his political skills. There is a reason all the monarchies and aristocracies of Europe were terrified and would stop at nothing to destroy him. I digress since it's off topic, but big Napoleon fan. It takes men of that force of nature to upend existing systems.

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On topic though. I have a friend who worked the diving and boat captain industry down in the Virgin Islands. It was well known to stay away from Epstein's island. If you got too close or were diving nearby you would be met by armed guards who were constantly patrolling the beaches.

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(08-13-2019 03:37 AM)loremipsum Wrote:  Apparently even Richard Dawkins name is on that passenger list.

Who would have thought that an atheist is into degenerate sick stuff and likes to promote there being no God?
Really makes you think.

As a teenager while reading The God Delusion and watching the Zeitgeist "documentary":

"Yes, that's right! There is no God, it's all lies, an invisible man in the clouds!"

then, "yeah, ok, abortion is basically painless for the fetus in the womb!"

then, "molestation isn't even that bad, the kids barely remember it, ok sure...what?"

That book was written to not only convince people to deny God's existence, but also to accept abortion and pedophilia.
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Not buying that every person who ever flew on Epstein's plane is a Bad Man. If you told me Lawrence Krauss or Daniel Dennet (homosexual, deceased) was a pedo that's one thing but I think Richard Dawkins is reaching. I've watched most of his interviews and I'd be surprised if he was an actual degenerate. He may have naively pushed some bad ideas through but I don't think it was intentional. I'm not saying atheism is good, I've learned over the last decade that it's been largely used to promote degeneracy among the populace and has been an overwhelmingly negative force (I say this as an atheist).
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(08-13-2019 08:07 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  Not buying that every person who ever flew on Epstein's plane is a Bad Man. If you told me Lawrence Krauss or Daniel Dennet (homosexual, deceased) was a pedo that's one thing but I think Richard Dawkins is reaching. I've watched most of his interviews and I'd be surprised if he was an actual degenerate. He may have naively pushed some bad ideas through but I don't think it was intentional. I'm not saying atheism is good, I've learned over the last decade that it's been largely used to promote degeneracy among the populace and has been an overwhelmingly negative force (I say this as an atheist).

shocking footage from Dawkins in one of the island's rooms:

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(08-13-2019 02:19 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Where are these thousands of former victims (legally speaking, they were underage and therefore victims)?

Wait, is that a legally recognized and enforced fact, is it the Law? A greedy prostitute willingly selling her body to old customers, be it in a backalley or a private island, cannot be prosecuted if she's under 18?

Then it means that all 16 or 17 years old Western chicks who don't want to study at high school, but do want easy money (to buy smartphones, pot and Instagram-grade bikinis), are at liberty to prowl the streets, whenever they need cash. The police can't detain them.

Surely that can't be the case. I'm pretty sure prostitution is a felony, even if the cash-hungry prostitute is under 18...

Anyway I'm tired of Weinstein's prostitute soulless actresses, and Epstein's jet-set Miss-Travel prostitutes, claiming Innocent Victim statute.

Dirty as they were, Weinstein and Epstein put no gun to no chick's head, after all. Their "Victims" came willingly to visit them, knowing perfectly well the deal, and accepted sweet cash money or Hollywood dream jobs. That makes them accomplices, and yes, de facto greedy prostitutes.

So instead of crying in front of eager cameras, decades after their scandalously depraved past, these women should cover their faces in shame... Or, well, I might believe their tears, if they were first to give back the cash (or career) they received from Weinstein or Epstein.
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(08-12-2019 10:51 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  Good ole' Ben Shapiro. You can always rely on him to toe the establishment line.

You know that Epstein's "suicide" is some kind of black op by the establishment for sure when Little Ben is trying to obfuscate the whole issue by calling everyone conspiracy freaks.

Ben's whole schtick is to either toe the establishment line or actively shill for Israel.

Why would anyone be surprised a friendly neighbourhood Jew who has an alt-right audience is doing his best to do a "shut it down!" thing?

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(08-13-2019 08:07 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  Not buying that every person who ever flew on Epstein's plane is a Bad Man. If you told me Lawrence Krauss or Daniel Dennet (homosexual, deceased) was a pedo that's one thing but I think Richard Dawkins is reaching. I've watched most of his interviews and I'd be surprised if he was an actual degenerate. He may have naively pushed some bad ideas through but I don't think it was intentional. I'm not saying atheism is good, I've learned over the last decade that it's been largely used to promote degeneracy among the populace and has been an overwhelmingly negative force (I say this as an atheist).

You don't believe that a hardcore atheist is capable of being degenerate? Don't let the posh accent fool you. I wouldn't be surprised if he did worse than me in my prime.

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In Ancient Rome, one option for an aristocrat who loses political power was to commit suicide. Even Nero committed suicide. The American version of that is to put the person in jail. Once you have him confined, it is an easy matter to make his life hell on earth so he makes the "right" decision. Epstein's crime was that he could embarrass powerful people. Epicurus recommended avoiding politicians to lead a peaceful life.

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Speaking of the Wire.

Ben Shapiro's show on the Daily Wire was laughable.

He insisted that we should all move along and that there was nothing to see here. He tries to make it about criticising Trump for his tweets, "disgusting!", "morally reprehensible!"





Just Garbage^.

Ben spends a bit on the news and then a bit on the media reaction and then..
08:09 onwards.. 5 mins talking about generalised problems in the prison system (which is the only scandal Ben will allow here) the human need to believe in conspiracies, then he changes the subject to "conspiracies" in general: y'know Stacey Abrams and her Georgia loss, Ferguson..

I suggest that the video is watched on the Youtube site. The Live Chat replay from 09:45 is GOLD as just about everyone slams Shapiro and repeats the words Mossad, Israel, Maxwell, Clintons, Ben, Shill, Coward.. ad infinitum.

The odd person complains about all the unruly "conspiracy theorists" taking over the chat..

Hysterical.

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(08-13-2019 11:31 AM)Roosh Wrote:  
(08-13-2019 08:07 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  Not buying that every person who ever flew on Epstein's plane is a Bad Man. If you told me Lawrence Krauss or Daniel Dennet (homosexual, deceased) was a pedo that's one thing but I think Richard Dawkins is reaching. I've watched most of his interviews and I'd be surprised if he was an actual degenerate. He may have naively pushed some bad ideas through but I don't think it was intentional. I'm not saying atheism is good, I've learned over the last decade that it's been largely used to promote degeneracy among the populace and has been an overwhelmingly negative force (I say this as an atheist).

You don't believe that a hardcore atheist is capable of being degenerate? Don't let the posh accent fool you. I wouldn't be surprised if he did worse than me in my prime.

Atheists are more capable of being degenerate - there's no concept of sin, commandments, or being judged by a God. There are atheists that subscribe to it for rational/scientific reasons but the vast majority of people do it for convenience. It's much more convenient for a homosexual to be atheist than a Muslim. Easier to be an atheist slut than a Catholic and so on. Much more compatible with Current Year.

Dawkins has always argued in good faith and like most scientists he only pushed atheism because he is a no-nonsense guy that cares about Truth and genuinely believes theism is misleading people. I can't know for sure what he does in his private life but based on everything I've observed I'm inclined to believe he is a guy with a decent standard of right and wrong. If actual proof emerges that he was a hedonistic degenerate I might actually have to seriously question whether Atheism is a legit tool of Satan.
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(08-13-2019 10:36 AM)Going strong Wrote:  Anyway I'm tired of Weinstein's prostitute soulless actresses, and Epstein's jet-set Miss-Travel prostitutes, claiming Innocent Victim statute.

Dirty as they were, Weinstein and Epstein put no gun to no chick's head, after all. Their "Victims" came willingly to visit them, knowing perfectly well the deal, and accepted sweet cash money or Hollywood dream jobs. That makes them accomplices, and yes, de facto greedy prostitutes.

So instead of crying in front of eager cameras, decades after their scandalously depraved past, these women should cover their faces in shame... Or, well, I might believe their tears, if they were first to give back the cash (or career) they received from Weinstein or Epstein.

An excellent point. So many labels being thrown at this case are wildly inappropriate.

Epstein was not a pedophile, as the girls he liked were definitely fertile and post-pubescent. The point Epstein himself made, that sex with teenage girls was a mostly arbitrary social taboo and an acceptable practice through most of history, was valid imho.

Moreover, all of the "victims" agreed to engage in sex acts in exchange for money. By Virginia Giuffre's own testimony, she was explicitly told what she was getting into. If the "victims" had hooked up with boys their own age, I can't see anyone having major problems with it. Moreover, most of these "victims" could have left at any time. Also, many of the other girls went on to work directly for Epstein himself!

There are images of Virginia Giuffre partying with Naomi Campbell, among other celebrities and billionaires. Not hard to see why a young woman might be motivated to stay in that world for as long as possible. They also have a potentially large financial interest in making their experience seem as terrible as possible, and using it as the basis for a lawsuit against Epstein's estate or possibly his other financial backers.

That said, Epstein's conduct was essentially very abusive, and it wouldn't shock me if there was a lot of coercion and threats involved. He deserved to rot in prison to the extent hard evidence could prove he was using threats or force to make girls have sex.

The real important point here is that we're likely getting an up close view of a complex Mossad blackmail and human trafficking operation. That is truly sensational news. Adult men being into hot 17 year olds has been a thing since the dawn of time.
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(08-13-2019 11:56 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  Speaking of the Wire.

Ben Shapiro's show on the Daily Wire was laughable.

He insisted that we should all move along and that there was nothing to see here. He tries to make it about criticising Trump for his tweets, "disgusting!", "morally reprehensible!""

What else can you expect from a member of the tribe but defending fellow Jews, it's tribal loyalty.

I don't know why there are still people who listen to Ben at this point, he says nothing interesting or insightful and all he does is obviously cover for the establishment. As far as I've seen his takes are just what you can expect from a typical Jewish neocon.
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How anyone can listen to Ben after his Michelle Fields debacle really surprises me. I guess most people never know, and yet major networks keep pushing his shilling. So they just see the face and know no history. Sums up how many Jews constantly befriend and upend their relationships.

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Nothing to see here folks, move along...

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Was Jon Lovitz the jail guard on duty?

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(08-13-2019 03:32 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  Was Jon Lovitz the jail guard on duty?

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Maybe that's why he decided to be a jail guard.



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