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We have not seen any official press conference in the Jeffrey Epstein case. This whole "suicide" mess reeks BS.
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Quote:We have not seen any official press conference in the Jeffrey Epstein case. This whole "suicide" mess reeks BS.

If the country wasn't a joke there would be a Mueller level investigation launched into Epstein's death immediately. This lack of a reaction just emphasizes the point that the political structure in the US is run by Satanic pedophiles like Epstein or puppets who work for others like him.

The only good thing about it is that nobody except journalists seem to believe the official narrative, regardless of whether they are left, right, or center.

It's kind of annoying though to see so many people blame "the Clintons." The Clintons are just lackeys who are on a lower level than Epstein, he was dealing with people far above them.
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Breaking news. Republicans calling for revoking legal immunity for Epstein's alleged co-conspirators.

Quote:Senator Ben Sasse, the Republican chairman of the Senate Judiciary Oversight Subcommittee, on Tuesday called on Barr to void a 2008 agreement that Epstein entered into with federal prosecutors in Florida that has been widely criticized as too lenient.

Under that deal, Epstein pleaded guilty to state prostitution charges and served 13 months in jail, but was allowed to leave the detention facility regularly for his office.

'CROOKED DEAL'

Some of Epstein's accusers have called on the federal judge overseeing that case to scrap portions of the agreement, which provided immunity to Epstein's alleged co-conspirators. In a letter to Barr, Sasse said the agreement should be thrown out altogether.

"This crooked deal cannot stand," and should be voided to "ensure that some measure of justice is finally delivered to Epstein's victims who have been let down time and time again by their government," Sasse said.

https://www.newsmax.com/headline/trump-e...0135henqyk


(08-13-2019 04:07 PM)Knight of Malta Wrote:  It's kind of annoying though to see so many people blame "the Clintons." The Clintons are just lackeys who are on a lower level than Epstein, he was dealing with people far above them.

If the Clintons are truly lackeys, and that is certainly possible, then they are some of the most dangerous lackeys in the history of mankind.

I think that is why so many people of good conscience are fixated on them -- along with the fact that the Clintons still possess a very dangerous power base that will always pose a danger to the world until that power base is dismantled.
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Yea that's the point I made earlier in this thread. In Germany the legal age is 16 and in other European countries it is 14. If the girls were offered money and they made it voluntarily, the whole thing is pretty tame from my POV. From what I understand most of Jeffrey's girls where between 15 and 18. As was mentioned above, quite a few of these girls became actual employees of Jeffrey, making quite a lot of money. I read that his inner circle of girls made 200k a year. Not bad for an 18 year old.

Through that Jeffrey case I ended up reading some stuff about that Dutroux case - that seems to be on a whole another level. There the girls/children (as young as 3 years old) were kidnappen, raped, tortured, in some cases burned alive and starved to death, and even newborns were killed. If it's really true what is said about that case. That's some extremely vile satanist shit that is almost outside of a normal person's imagination. Compared to that the whole Jeffrey case is almost not worth mentioning.

Of course we don't know what really happened, maybe there were more sinister things going on, but from what I heard so far it's not really that monstrous as it's made out to be. As was mentioned above, it's quite unclear to what extent these girls were really forced to do things, or if they just got lured in by the money and the luxury.


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(08-13-2019 10:36 AM)Going strong Wrote:  Anyway I'm tired of Weinstein's prostitute soulless actresses, and Epstein's jet-set Miss-Travel prostitutes, claiming Innocent Victim statute.

Dirty as they were, Weinstein and Epstein put no gun to no chick's head, after all. Their "Victims" came willingly to visit them, knowing perfectly well the deal, and accepted sweet cash money or Hollywood dream jobs. That makes them accomplices, and yes, de facto greedy prostitutes.

So instead of crying in front of eager cameras, decades after their scandalously depraved past, these women should cover their faces in shame... Or, well, I might believe their tears, if they were first to give back the cash (or career) they received from Weinstein or Epstein.

An excellent point. So many labels being thrown at this case are wildly inappropriate.

Epstein was not a pedophile, as the girls he liked were definitely fertile and post-pubescent. The point Epstein himself made, that sex with teenage girls was a mostly arbitrary social taboo and an acceptable practice through most of history, was valid imho.

Moreover, all of the "victims" agreed to engage in sex acts in exchange for money. By Virginia Giuffre's own testimony, she was explicitly told what she was getting into. If the "victims" had hooked up with boys their own age, I can't see anyone having major problems with it. Moreover, most of these "victims" could have left at any time. Also, many of the other girls went on to work directly for Epstein himself!

There are images of Virginia Giuffre partying with Naomi Campbell, among other celebrities and billionaires. Not hard to see why a young woman might be motivated to stay in that world for as long as possible. They also have a potentially large financial interest in making their experience seem as terrible as possible, and using it as the basis for a lawsuit against Epstein's estate or possibly his other financial backers.

That said, Epstein's conduct was essentially very abusive, and it wouldn't shock me if there was a lot of coercion and threats involved. He deserved to rot in prison to the extent hard evidence could prove he was using threats or force to make girls have sex.

The real important point here is that we're likely getting an up close view of a complex Mossad blackmail and human trafficking operation. That is truly sensational news. Adult men being into hot 17 year olds has been a thing since the dawn of time.
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Someone posted earlier in this thread a clip from the show True Detective. Looked interesting so I watched series 1 and 2.

They are literally telling us what is going on at the top through Hollywood. The reason these shows are so popular is because they're true.

Them revealing to the masses what they are doing and the masses doing nothing about it is acceptance by conduct, or lack thereof, and I don't like to think of the implications in the higher dimensions.
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(08-13-2019 04:21 PM)Ice Wrote:  Yea that's the point I made earlier in this thread. In Germany the legal age is 16 and in other European countries it is 14.

You guys make some good points, but you are missing one critical fact. The U.S., U.K., Canada and a few other countries exercise extraterritorial jurisdiction (which is rarely invoked by most nations) in regard to child sex, child pornography, and related activities. This means that you can be prosecuted in your home country for actions undertaken in another country, regardless of whether your conduct is lawful in the country that you visited and where your conduct occurred. Such extraterritorial jurisdiction is almost unheard of in most areas of the law.

For example, in the U.S., Congress has exercised extraterritorial jurisdiction over citizen sex tourists. The U.S. Supreme Court has confirmed that Congress has the power to regulate the conduct of American citizens beyond the territorial boundaries of the U.S. In addition, international law also allows a nation to apply its laws to the extraterritorial acts of its citizens.

In the U.S., federal law imposes criminal penalties when a U.S. citizen travels for the purpose of engaging in an unlawful sexual act with a juvenile, which is defined as anyone under the age of 16. 18 U.S.C. Section 2423(b).

I am not a lawyer, but here is a court case that discusses some of these legal principles.

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/dis...9/2513194/


If you live in a country that exercises extraterritorial jurisdiction over its citizens, then you must know the law of your home country as well as the law of the country that you visit. Epstein violated U.S. law if he had sexual relations with anyone under the age of 16 anywhere in the world.
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(08-13-2019 04:21 PM)Ice Wrote:  Yea that's the point I made earlier in this thread. In Germany the legal age is 16 and in other European countries it is 14. If the girls were offered money and they made it voluntarily, the whole thing is pretty tame from my POV. From what I understand most of Jeffrey's girls where between 15 and 18. As was mentioned above, quite a few of these girls became actual employees of Jeffrey, making quite a lot of money. I read that his inner circle of girls made 200k a year. Not bad for an 18 year old.

Through that Jeffrey case I ended up reading some stuff about that Dutroux case - that seems to be on a whole another level. There the girls/children (as young as 3 years old) were kidnappen, raped, tortured, in some cases burned alive and starved to death, and even newborns were killed. If it's really true what is said about that case. That's some extremely vile satanist shit that is almost outside of a normal person's imagination. Compared to that the whole Jeffrey case is almost not worth mentioning.

Of course we don't know what really happened, maybe there were more sinister things going on, but from what I heard so far it's not really that monstrous as it's made out to be. As was mentioned above, it's quite unclear to what extent these girls were really forced to do things, or if they just got lured in by the money and the luxury.


(08-13-2019 01:03 PM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  
(08-13-2019 10:36 AM)Going strong Wrote:  Anyway I'm tired of Weinstein's prostitute soulless actresses, and Epstein's jet-set Miss-Travel prostitutes, claiming Innocent Victim statute.

Dirty as they were, Weinstein and Epstein put no gun to no chick's head, after all. Their "Victims" came willingly to visit them, knowing perfectly well the deal, and accepted sweet cash money or Hollywood dream jobs. That makes them accomplices, and yes, de facto greedy prostitutes.

So instead of crying in front of eager cameras, decades after their scandalously depraved past, these women should cover their faces in shame... Or, well, I might believe their tears, if they were first to give back the cash (or career) they received from Weinstein or Epstein.

An excellent point. So many labels being thrown at this case are wildly inappropriate.

Epstein was not a pedophile, as the girls he liked were definitely fertile and post-pubescent. The point Epstein himself made, that sex with teenage girls was a mostly arbitrary social taboo and an acceptable practice through most of history, was valid imho.

Moreover, all of the "victims" agreed to engage in sex acts in exchange for money. By Virginia Giuffre's own testimony, she was explicitly told what she was getting into. If the "victims" had hooked up with boys their own age, I can't see anyone having major problems with it. Moreover, most of these "victims" could have left at any time. Also, many of the other girls went on to work directly for Epstein himself!

There are images of Virginia Giuffre partying with Naomi Campbell, among other celebrities and billionaires. Not hard to see why a young woman might be motivated to stay in that world for as long as possible. They also have a potentially large financial interest in making their experience seem as terrible as possible, and using it as the basis for a lawsuit against Epstein's estate or possibly his other financial backers.

That said, Epstein's conduct was essentially very abusive, and it wouldn't shock me if there was a lot of coercion and threats involved. He deserved to rot in prison to the extent hard evidence could prove he was using threats or force to make girls have sex.

The real important point here is that we're likely getting an up close view of a complex Mossad blackmail and human trafficking operation. That is truly sensational news. Adult men being into hot 17 year olds has been a thing since the dawn of time.

I'll definitely agree with all the above. "Underage" means different things in different countries and the word "pedophile" is misused in the U.S.

But here's the reason this is a scandal. It's going to expose the hypocrisy of the One Percent. The politicians and bigwigs said to be cavorting with Epstein are the same people who preach politically correct "morals" and who would throw you or me in prison for the smallest of small infractions.

They get to hang out in resorts with 16-year-olds from Eastern Europe, but then when they come back home, they make laws that imprison the 18-year-old boy who has sex with his 16-year-old girlfriend. Or they get behind Title IX, which has all but removed due process on college campuses. Then there's the hypocrisy about drug use and the drinking age.

If word of any this got out, careers would be ruined, especially if the scandal involved leftist politicians who push the #metoo/believe women crowd -- which I'm sure it does.

"Freedom for me, but not for thee" should be the motto of these people. I actually don't much care what they do. But they seem to care A LOT about what I do, where I go, and even the type of speech I use. So I'd like to see them held accountable for any and all wrong-doings, as would a lot of others. And this is the reason Epstein had to be silenced, one way or another.
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(08-13-2019 10:36 AM)Going strong Wrote:  
(08-13-2019 02:19 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Where are these thousands of former victims (legally speaking, they were underage and therefore victims)?

Wait, is that a legally recognized and enforced fact, is it the Law? A greedy prostitute willingly selling her body to old customers, be it in a backalley or a private island, cannot be prosecuted if she's under 18?

Then it means that all 16 or 17 years old Western chicks who don't want to study at high school, but do want easy money (to buy smartphones, pot and Instagram-grade bikinis), are at liberty to prowl the streets, whenever they need cash. The police can't detain them.

Surely that can't be the case. I'm pretty sure prostitution is a felony, even if the cash-hungry prostitute is under 18...

Anyway I'm tired of Weinstein's prostitute soulless actresses, and Epstein's jet-set Miss-Travel prostitutes, claiming Innocent Victim statute.

Dirty as they were, Weinstein and Epstein put no gun to no chick's head, after all. Their "Victims" came willingly to visit them, knowing perfectly well the deal, and accepted sweet cash money or Hollywood dream jobs. That makes them accomplices, and yes, de facto greedy prostitutes.

So instead of crying in front of eager cameras, decades after their scandalously depraved past, these women should cover their faces in shame... Or, well, I might believe their tears, if they were first to give back the cash (or career) they received from Weinstein or Epstein.

Under age is under age, GS. You understand that both parties can commit different and separate crimes at the same time, do you not?

So the question become whether you think prostitution somehow cancels out pedophilia, and if so then is it OK to fuck a 10 year old as long as they negotiate a box of candy for the act?

In any case, if these girls are material witnesses to crimes and they've been killed and disposed of then perhaps that's something that ought to garner some interest?

Or are pedophiles allowed to kill underage prostitutes too?

It remarkable how some of the guys here on the forum that like to routinely excuse underage sex on predictable grounds seem to forget that Pizzagate was talking about boys as young as 10 and even younger in some cases. Personally I wish you would just stop flirting around the edges and tell us all how old is old enough. 15? 14? 13? 12? 11? 10?

If you want to have sex with 12 year old girls then go and get citizenship in Burkastan. Stop eroding the principles of sane European countries that enforce civilisational best practices.

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It would not surprise me if a few hard drives get smashed or go missing at the bottom of the ocean, I mean this is the very trustworthy FBI and NYPD after all.





Quick cover up all the windows, we are being surveilled by a UFD (unidentified flying drone).

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(08-13-2019 03:55 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  We have not seen any official press conference in the Jeffrey Epstein case. This whole "suicide" mess reeks BS.

I've seen at least 2, you need to do more research.
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(08-13-2019 09:18 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  
(08-13-2019 03:55 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  We have not seen any official press conference in the Jeffrey Epstein case. This whole "suicide" mess reeks BS.

I've seen at least 2, you need to do more research.

Are you sure? Sources? Links? Note I said "official".

Edit. Just to be clear. I am referring to the so-called Epstein Suicide where there hasn't been a press conference by the Metropolitan Correctional Center (Manhattan) officials instead of from the FBI or DOJ.

Edit II.
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(08-13-2019 08:35 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(08-13-2019 10:36 AM)Going strong Wrote:  
(08-13-2019 02:19 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Where are these thousands of former victims (legally speaking, they were underage and therefore victims)?

Wait, is that a legally recognized and enforced fact, is it the Law? A greedy prostitute willingly selling her body to old customers, be it in a backalley or a private island, cannot be prosecuted if she's under 18?

Then it means that all 16 or 17 years old Western chicks who don't want to study at high school, but do want easy money (to buy smartphones, pot and Instagram-grade bikinis), are at liberty to prowl the streets, whenever they need cash. The police can't detain them.

Surely that can't be the case. I'm pretty sure prostitution is a felony, even if the cash-hungry prostitute is under 18...

Anyway I'm tired of Weinstein's prostitute soulless actresses, and Epstein's jet-set Miss-Travel prostitutes, claiming Innocent Victim statute.

Dirty as they were, Weinstein and Epstein put no gun to no chick's head, after all. Their "Victims" came willingly to visit them, knowing perfectly well the deal, and accepted sweet cash money or Hollywood dream jobs. That makes them accomplices, and yes, de facto greedy prostitutes.

So instead of crying in front of eager cameras, decades after their scandalously depraved past, these women should cover their faces in shame... Or, well, I might believe their tears, if they were first to give back the cash (or career) they received from Weinstein or Epstein.

Under age is under age, GS. You understand that both parties can commit different and separate crimes at the same time, do you not?

So the question become whether you think prostitution somehow cancels out pedophilia, and if so then is it OK to fuck a 10 year old as long as they negotiate a box of candy for the act?

In any case, if these girls are material witnesses to crimes and they've been killed and disposed of then perhaps that's something that ought to garner some interest?

Or are pedophiles allowed to kill underage prostitutes too?

It remarkable how some of the guys here on the forum that like to routinely excuse underage sex on predictable grounds seem to forget that Pizzagate was talking about boys as young as 10 and even younger in some cases. Personally I wish you would just stop flirting around the edges and tell us all how old is old enough. 15? 14? 13? 12? 11? 10?

If you want to have sex with 12 year old girls then go and get citizenship in Burkastan. Stop eroding the principles of sane European countries that enforce civilisational best practices.

No need to overreact or misrepresent what several high-rep forum members have been saying on this thread.

We do not mistake "17 or 18 years old well-paid international hookers, recruited In Miami or Parisian nightclubs", with some naive "10-year old boy". Of course, it's not the same.

Also, we never said that being a pimp is OK. Of course we all hate disgusting pimps. But, are we allowed to also dislike women who willingly engage in prostitution, women who aren't starving and do disgusting things with old dudes just to buy a new smartphone or a ticket to Dubai, stopover in Instagram?

Now if you want to believe that a woman of 17 or 18 who spends her nights in degenerate nightclubs where she is eventually spotted by Ghislaine, then agrees to take a plane to "learn professional massage" and gladly receives plenty of cash (200k per year) for her "services", is an innocent victim, well, it's your right, your heart must be more forgiving than mine.

Personally I dislike prostitutes almost as much as pimps, and don't believe their tearful excuses. Greed and vice and Instagram whoring are hideous in a woman, be it at 30,18 or 17.
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The word pedophile has been consistently used incorrectly by the media. Epstein was an Ephebophile:

Quote:Ephebophilia is the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19. The term was originally used in the late 19th to mid 20th century. It is one of a number of sexual preferences across age groups subsumed under the technical term chronophilia. Ephebophilia strictly denotes the preference for mid-to-late adolescent sexual partners, not the mere presence of some level of sexual attraction.

In research environments, specific terms are used for chronophilias: for instance, ephebophilia to refer to the sexual preference for mid-to-late adolescents, hebephilia to refer to the sexual preference for earlier pubescent individuals, and pedophilia to refer to the primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children. However, the term pedophilia is commonly used by the general public to refer to any sexual interest in minors below the legal age of consent, regardless of their level of physical or mental development.

I guess the word pedophile looks more horrific to the public. The UK age of consent is 16, if an American bangs a 16 year old, does that make him a pedophile? He wouldn't be considered one in most of the world.
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Pe
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Or are we at the point now where we let the MSM alter the narrative to "international pimp"?

You don't think it's worth the effort for multiple reasons to find out whether these girls are still alive? No matter their age?

@WB Most places in the world don't allow registrationless gun ownership. Are you willing to fall in line with "most of the world" on that or only when diving into the grey area nets you some kind of benefit?

Simple question for any of you.

Who wants to drop age of consent laws through the floor?

The sane, orderly, traditionally religious members of society?

Or the crooked, hedonistic, satanic members of society?

If you find yourself rowing in the same direction as the degenerates then maybe you ought to think about turning around, lest I bizarrely have to explain for the tenth time why Woody beginning a sexual relationship with his barely legal step-daughter who was raised in his house from a pre-pubescent age is wrong. If you don't understand this stuff inherently then some fundamental part of your social development has gone horribly wrong. Trust me. There's a reason Jews are pushing such degeneracy in the porn industry so if you see stuff like "Step-dad bangs daughter and her friend" and think "sounds reasonable" then, brah, you need Jesus.

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I’ve hung out with RVF guys who were into banging 16/17 year olds in Colombia. The first time it was brought up I said “you can’t bang under 18 and if you do then you can be prosecuted in your home country” then they looked up the rules and corrected me, apparently you can bang 16 year olds if there’s no cash involved, so that was the rationalization. They seemed pretty set on it so I wasn’t trying to convince them of anything but I said this- even if it’s legal, as a mid-30s guy I’d have a really hard time justifying banging a 16 year old to friends, family and co-workers back home, even if it was legal and I wasn’t committing a crime, they’d think I was a sick fuck and I’d be totally ostracized in my community and probably not allowed to be around anyone’s kids.

Maybe it’s different where some of you guys are from and people are more tolerant of adult men banging teens but where I’m from it’s severely frowned upon and would likely result in a guy getting his face beat to a pulp.

Carry on.

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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking
So now we have the father of Epstein's main accuser giving a Daily Mail surreal interview.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ather.html

The dude explains that Ghislaine met his daughter "in the club". Which club, and why was she allowed to frequent jet-set clubs alongside the likes of Maxwell, at 17 of age?

Also why was she not studying or doing a Summer job, like honest late teens do, instead of clubbing "with Naomi at Saint Tropez" and taking planes to strange islands?

Anyway the father explains that he briefly met Epstein once, and that was enough to convince him to allow his daughter to travel to Epstein's, "for training in therapy massage".

Sure. The father is so naive, he gives his underage daughter to the first man who asks nicely - plus he just loved how Epstein looked good "in jeans", like Starsky (see my previous posts).

So I think the father should be investigated, as his story does not hold. Did he receive money or any compensation from Epstein, or is he just the most naive father on earth?

As to the "innocent victim", partying hard with the jet-set and willingly taking planes to islands "of therapeutical massages", she should be asked to pay back taxes on the money she extracted "massaging" dirty old Epstein and playing with Bill's cigar.

Also, just saying but, from the Daily Mail pics, she might want to adopt a "therapeutic diet".

Edit: I've got the 666th post, unfortunately. I'm fair game for Leonard. Confused

One last thing:
Don't forget that the "underage" aspect of Epstein's shady activities, was primarily for blackmailing purposes. His own sexual preferences were less important than the necessity of having pics of, say, Bill Clinton with some underage "massaging" chick.
And do notice that MSM focuses on "muh Epstein pedo", but very little on Blackmail Honeypot Ring.
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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking
I'll bet Harvey Weinstein is feeling pretty vindicated right now... All he ever did was give some aspiring actresses a role in exchange for sex, maybe jerked off into a plant a couple of times.
None of this evil pedo shit and government level conspiracies.
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It's nothing personal, GS. This is all libertarian hamstering that I used to not only believe in but advocate for. I was banging from late 15 (a late start for some in my set) and the age of consent never registered in my mind because social game meant that everyone was roughly the same age anyway.

But make no mistake, dancing around the age of consent is degeneracy and if we want to kill that hamster entirely then Roosh is correct that all pre-marital sex is degeneracy.

In a sane, orderly society the father hands his daughter to her first, last and only husband who beds her on their wedding night. Step outside of that and it's only a matter of time until we end up where we are today.

You simply cannot choose to have sexual liberation and social conservatism. I don't hold Epstien's whores responsible for their actions because I don't believe women have agency full stop. In a sane world I might not even give them citizenship. Patriarchy is not just a word. It's a way of life. The root cause of all this madness is weak, Godless men. Women are barely a step above children and I'd no sooner hold a woman responsible for the destruction of society than I would hold a toddler to the same standard.

Incidentally this is why boomer-tier whining about feminism is so pathetic. You can't give a dog a bag of dog food and tell him to make it last the month. If someone does that and the dog gorges itself to death then the owner is the idiot, not the dog.

God demands of Man responsibility. God demands of Woman vulnerability. These are their curse and blessing alike. Libertianism is to Man as Feminism is to Woman.
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(08-14-2019 02:39 AM)RWIsrael Wrote:  I'll bet Harvey Weinstein is feeling pretty vindicated right now... All he ever did was give some aspiring actresses a role in exchange for sex, maybe jerked off into a plant a couple of times.
None of this evil pedo shit and government level conspiracies.

Beta guys like Weinstein who dress like schlubs and were only of in a position of some power due to long standing tribe connections are always the ones who take the fall...

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If you want girls to drip for you and run back to you after you beat them to pulp instead of going #metoo on you for making them look at you while you jerk off into a plant you better be a straight up gangster.

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He isn't particularly swole, more than average looking or dressing particularly masculine - just willing to whoop dat bisch when necessary.

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Do you think anyone is going to go #metoo on him?

He feigns an apology and they keep running back to him...
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(08-13-2019 08:53 PM)Cumlluminates Wrote:  It would not surprise me if a few hard drives get smashed or go missing at the bottom of the ocean, I mean this is the very trustworthy FBI and NYPD after all.





Quick cover up all the windows, we are being surveilled by a UFD (unidentified flying drone).

Very curious. They should be filming themselves to document the adherence to required procedures for gathering evidence. Why no latex gloves?

Answer: because this is the cover up, not an evidence gathering mission.
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(08-13-2019 04:45 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  
(08-13-2019 04:21 PM)Ice Wrote:  Yea that's the point I made earlier in this thread. In Germany the legal age is 16 and in other European countries it is 14.

You guys make some good points, but you are missing one critical fact. The U.S., U.K., Canada and a few other countries exercise extraterritorial jurisdiction (which is rarely invoked by most nations) in regard to child sex, child pornography, and related activities. This means that you can be prosecuted in your home country for actions undertaken in another country, regardless of whether your conduct is lawful in the country that you visited and where your conduct occurred. Such extraterritorial jurisdiction is almost unheard of in most areas of the law.

For example, in the U.S., Congress has exercised extraterritorial jurisdiction over citizen sex tourists. The U.S. Supreme Court has confirmed that Congress has the power to regulate the conduct of American citizens beyond the territorial boundaries of the U.S. In addition, international law also allows a nation to apply its laws to the extraterritorial acts of its citizens.

In the U.S., federal law imposes criminal penalties when a U.S. citizen travels for the purpose of engaging in an unlawful sexual act with a juvenile, which is defined as anyone under the age of 16. 18 U.S.C. Section 2423(b).

I am not a lawyer, but here is a court case that discusses some of these legal principles.

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/dis...9/2513194/


If you live in a country that exercises extraterritorial jurisdiction over its citizens, then you must know the law of your home country as well as the law of the country that you visit. Epstein violated U.S. law if he had sexual relations with anyone under the age of 16 anywhere in the world.

It's legal to bang 14yo girls in many countries in the world, but it's illegal to pay them for sex in close to all countries at that age. So that means that you can seduce a 16yo girl in Germany or a 13yo in France, but you may never pay them for sex. And a girl risks nothing telling on her former John. Except in this case - those girls that tell the truth about who they serviced, they risk death by suicide and thus most girls will never talk about anything anyway. There are likely tens of thousands of girls connected with that guy. Out of those a few highly damaged or insanely stupid ones will go and tell anything. I personally would recommend every girl to shut up, because the risk of ending up 6-six-feet-under is too great - divine justice will take care of the perps. You cannot expect worldly justice now.
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(08-13-2019 06:37 AM)Jones Wrote:  
(08-13-2019 03:37 AM)loremipsum Wrote:  Apparently even Richard Dawkins name is on that passenger list.

Who would have thought that an atheist is into degenerate sick stuff and likes to promote there being no God?
Really makes you think.

As a teenager while reading The God Delusion and watching the Zeitgeist "documentary":

"Yes, that's right! There is no God, it's all lies, an invisible man in the clouds!"

then, "yeah, ok, abortion is basically painless for the fetus in the womb!"

then, "molestation isn't even that bad, the kids barely remember it, ok sure...what?"

That book was written to not only convince people to deny God's existence, but also to accept abortion and pedophilia.

I always thought Dawkins was an old-school, more reasonable type of leftist until I read this choice quote:

Quote:"Horrible as sexual abuse no doubt was, the damage was arguably less than the long-term psychological damage inflicted by bringing the child up Catholic in the first place."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...wkins.html

I hope he gets #metoo'd by one of his cultists and dies disgraced and destitute.

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According to his bio, it looks like Epstein made his money with hedge funds. It is not clear what benefit he derived from hanging out with powerful politicians, except to stroke his massive ego. The real scandal here is that a man made a billion dollars, not by working and contributing to society, but by gaming a corrupt financial system. Why did he have access to such powerful men just because had had some money (which he stole from us) and spread it around to politicians. The real issue is the corruption of this system. Why are we ruled by people who are selected only by money? But Americans are so obsessed with sex. All they see is sex, sex, sex that they don't see the real problem hanging right under their noses.

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(08-14-2019 08:59 AM)Sherman Wrote:  According to his bio, it looks like Epstein made his money with hedge funds. It is not clear what benefit he derived from hanging out with powerful politicians, except to stroke his massive ego. The real scandal here is that a man made a billion dollars, not by working and contributing to society, but by gaming a corrupt financial system. Why did he have access to such powerful men just because had had some money (which he stole from us) and spread it around to politicians. The real issue is the corruption of this system. Why are we ruled by people who are selected only by money? But Americans are so obsessed with sex. All they see is sex, sex, sex that they don't see the real problem hanging right under their noses.

Bullshit - that guy never ever made his cash as a super-trader climbing his way up. There is zero chance for that! He was given all of his jobs and likely faked being a billionaire anyway.

There are self-made billionaires from hedge-funds, but he does not even remotely approach their profile. Epstein was a school teacher without even having finished his degree.

Epstein was a con-artist and his main skill was precurement of girls, some Game and social charme - that's it.
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(08-14-2019 09:45 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 08:59 AM)Sherman Wrote:  According to his bio, it looks like Epstein made his money with hedge funds. It is not clear what benefit he derived from hanging out with powerful politicians, except to stroke his massive ego. The real scandal here is that a man made a billion dollars, not by working and contributing to society, but by gaming a corrupt financial system. Why did he have access to such powerful men just because had had some money (which he stole from us) and spread it around to politicians. The real issue is the corruption of this system. Why are we ruled by people who are selected only by money? But Americans are so obsessed with sex. All they see is sex, sex, sex that they don't see the real problem hanging right under their noses.

Bullshit - that guy never ever made his cash as a super-trader climbing his way up. There is zero chance for that! He was given all of his jobs and likely faked being a billionaire anyway.

There are self-made billionaires from hedge-funds, but he does not even remotely approach their profile. Epstein was a school teacher without even having finished his degree.

Epstein was a con-artist and his main skill was precurement of girls, some Game and social charme - that's it.

The wikipedia article goes through some of his financial history. And hedge funds steal our money through a rigged corrupt system. They are rent seekers.

"Epstein invested $80 million between 2002 and 2005, in the D.B. Zwirn Special Opportunities hedge fund."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Ep...consulting

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