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(08-20-2019 05:51 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I don't see any possibility whatsoever of Trump being overthrown by the Right itself. Who would even be put up against him?

Lots of people on the Right like to point and laugh at how pathetic the Dem primaries are but I think there's a method to their madness, at least on behalf of their handlers. I think they're going to put up a crappy candidate and ensure Trump gets another term because Trump's administration is giving them everything they need while keeping Red America either on the revolutionary bench or in a prison cell if they're stupid enough to think Trump has their back.

If by some miracle the Demographic candidate is running close to Trump in 2020 look for a series of catastrophic gaffes or revelations that all-but knock them out of the race (just enough to leave congress in gridlock at least). The Right will revel in their "great victory" and you'll get 4 more years of this nonsense.

No one will primary Trump, he will be the GOP candidate. I agree with you on Trump gives the anti-MAGA globalist crowd everything they want so they will probably try to keep him in power. But if Trump does lose, it will be to an identical candidate from the left with the same policies and same anti-MAGA agenda. Sanders, Warren, Biden are all pretty much the same as Trump so if Trump loses to them, the same music keeps playing.
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Another good point about Trump. Portland... Forget him even supporting his supporters as they get attacked with weapons and Antifa commits multiple state and federal felonies, I suppose that is just asking too much.

But how can you let a US city become this lawless. You are the top law enforcer and this has been going on for years with no end in sight. Even for the normal people in the city this interrupts their daily lives and puts them in harms way.
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Well they must have serious dirt on Trump for him being idle on these issues but full speed ahead on shit ike Israel, iran and Venezuela.

These red shirts attacking his supporters are only allowed to do this because the powers that be want it to happen and the MSM stirs the pot.

I dont doubt Trump would do something but at this point its pretty safe to say he is compromsied by these globalists in some form. They should be careful though because they are creating Frankensteins all over the place.
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The problem with Trump was that he was a fake populist who had no real intention of being for the average worker. He's a phony.

-He got rid of Steve Bannon and sided with Ivanka and Kischner, which ultimately pissed off his base.

-He pulled out of the Iran deal out of ego ( a deal that Iran was honoring by the way), just so that he can to stick it to Obama to prove that he's a better "dealmaker" and because of those actions we are now closer to war with Iran than ever before.

-He said he was going to get out of Afghanistan and Iraq, and "bring our troops home" and invest that money in infrastructure. Not only did the troops not return, he increased military spending massively and sent more troops and increased drone strikes 436% more than the previous administration.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-is...did-2017-4

-He did the largest weapons deal with Saudi Arabia in the history of the United States, which further escalates more war.

-He said he was going to give everyone healthcare. "Some of the best health-care folks, and I'm going to cover everybody." He said he was going to have universal healthcare, but turns his back and tried to boot off over 32 million people currently on Obamacare by repealing it. I'm not a fan of Obamacare, but what Trump wanted to do is worse which is to take it away from working families who need it.

-He passed massive tax cuts for the rich in the form of economic welfare to the very elite where 83% of the tax benefits went to the top 1% which added a trillion dollars to the deficit. That is not very working class if you ask me.

-He said he was going to drain the swamp, and then turns around and surrounds himself with bankers and goldman sachs executives more than any administration ever. When pressed about it, he simply said "I don't want a poor person running the economy". If Hillary, Bush, Biden or someone on the democratic side had said that conservatives would be up in arms, but when Trump says it they laugh it off? I find it hypocritical. He's an elitist through and through and it goes to show you his worldview. He's not for the average worker.




-He promised the American people that he wasn't going to cut their Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and food stamps, and in his latest proposal he proposed massive cuts to the budget in the forms of these things to pay for his tax cuts on the rich.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/what-p...2019-03-12


All in all, Trump lives for those pats on the back from the elites and the cocktail circuits in Washington and New York. All his life he just wanted to be accepted by them. The irony of all of this is that Trump wants to be Hillary Clinton, because she is beloved by the powers that be, the establishment and the status quo and the elites, and the monied interests and Trump wants nothing more than that pat on the head from them. Ironically he wants to be the person that he beat in the election. The funny thing also is that no matter how much he tries to receive the praise and admiration from them by giving them massive tax cuts, de-regulations on wall street, trying to get rid of Obamacare, pulling out of the Iran deal and escalating more war, he's never going to get that praise and admiration. They hate him and despise him.


Trump just wanted to get elected, and all that populist rhetoric was a bunch of hot air to rally his base. He's a fraud.

I agree with my homeboy Bernard Sanders right here when talking about Donald Trump and i'll leave it at that:



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(08-20-2019 05:28 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  
(08-20-2019 05:15 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I don't think he'll be voted out. I think the elites like him right where he is for all the reasons you've listed before.

Imagine you were in the NBA finals and you had a two game lead but certain members of your team suddenly start having an "off game" and before you know it you find yourself in game 7 down four points with 20 seconds left

Then the guy that promises to make the shots that'll give you the game sits at half court running out the last 20 seconds...

Trump's campaign was a huge F-U to the globohomos and the election results were another one but after that it's been nothing but failure after failure to deliver on the key issues that would allow his voters to retain their nation into the next generation. As I've said before, a Bush style theft of the election by Hillary would have led to most politically productive outcome of all. The second most productive outcome would have been for Trump to reveal honestly that the deep state is too entrenched to be removed democratically and elections don't really matter. That would have woken people up. But as it stands Trump is just running down the demographic catastrophe clock and wasting precious time with his song and dance routine.

I can't predict if Trump wins or not in 2020, it is a long ways away and the economy doesn't look good. If the economy manages to not tank by 2020, Trump has a chance. But it is an uphill battle for him due to demographic changes and how little Trump has done for blue collar workers in key states. The demographics in Florida and Penn are against Trump more so this time. The lack of blue collar support in Michigan and Wisconsin is against Trump more so this time.

I'm just saying if Trump does nothing for his base in his last year, and that looks very likely, then he needs to be voted out. If we are going to get nothing from the President, at least make it so that the MAGA crowd wakes up and realizes how much trouble they are in rather than just passively watching their nation collapse.
I've put myself in the deep freeze here for quite a spell but this topic has me chomping at the bit, like a caged hungry tiger that wants out. I hardly know where to start. I find it amusing that so many seem to think Trump is a slam dunk to repeat. What? The mid terms were an unmitigated disaster for the Republicans. Yes the demographic tidal wave rolls on and my fellow Americans of the darker skinned variety increase in number daily and they love the Democrats the economy be damned. Enough white Americans are guilt shamed or convinced of the moral superiority of the progressive cause, the Democrats are poised to get more than 40% of the white vote the next time. How does he win? With the possible exception of Ohio, I don't see Trump winning any of the other states he flipped in 2016. Not only that but I doubt the Dems nominate any of the white guy candidates. You think a prissy Warren or a horizontal Harris can't win? As for Trump I think Samseau makes some good points, however his poor communication skills frustrate the hell out of me. No one has the brains or the balls to frame this argument for the survival of the west in clear and cogent terms?

During the 2016 campaign I had a long detailed discussion with a prominent attorney in my community. A sharp guy. Far more successful in his 20's than I ever was in my working life. He told me Trump was a phony, using faux nationalism as a vehicle to get him the ultimate political prize. That for years he gave the appearance of being the garden variety New York liberal. I replied that I sure liked the way he talked the talk and could only hope that he would walk the walk. Now here we are. I don't think the Dem hard left would have made anywhere near the progress the last 2+ years if Hillary was elected.

As for faith in God and everything being all right all I can say is I am far from an atheist but I sincerely doubt that things are going to be all right. God allowed the fall and captivity of Israel and I see nothing to save the west from its impending across the board doom. I want some hard concrete evidence before I ever change my mind about that. I just wonder how bad the next few decades will be.
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(08-20-2019 11:26 AM)Scorpio Rising Wrote:  I've put myself in the deep freeze here for quite a spell but this topic has me chomping at the bit, like a caged hungry tiger that wants out. I hardly know where to start. I find it amusing that so many seem to think Trump is a slam dunk to repeat. What? The mid terms were an unmitigated disaster for the Republicans. Yes the demographic tidal wave rolls on and my fellow Americans of the darker skinned variety increase in number daily and they love the Democrats the economy be damned. Enough white Americans are guilt shamed or convinced of the moral superiority of the progressive cause, the Democrats are poised to get more than 40% of the white vote the next time. How does he win? With the possible exception of Ohio, I don't see Trump winning any of the other states he flipped in 2016. Not only that but I doubt the Dems nominate any of the white guy candidates. You think a prissy Warren or a horizontal Harris can't win? As for Trump I think Samseau makes some good points, however his poor communication skills frustrate the hell out of me. No one has the brains or the balls to frame this argument for the survival of the west in clear and cogent terms?

During the 2016 campaign I had a long detailed discussion with a prominent attorney in my community. A sharp guy. Far more successful in his 20's than I ever was in my working life. He told me Trump was a phony, using faux nationalism as a vehicle to get him the ultimate political prize. That for years he gave the appearance of being the garden variety New York liberal. I replied that I sure liked the way he talked the talk and could only hope that he would walk the walk. Now here we are. I don't think the Dem hard left would have made anywhere near the progress the last 2+ years if Hillary was elected.

As for faith in God and everything being all right all I can say is I am far from an atheist but I sincerely doubt that things are going to be all right. God allowed the fall and captivity of Israel and I see nothing to save the west from its impending across the board doom. I want some hard concrete evidence before I ever change my mind about that. I just wonder how bad the next few decades will be.

Excellent post. I agree, I don't see how Trump wins, even if the economy does not tank. And the signs are there for the economic down turn, in the minimum, in the next year.

I agree with everything you said, and I want to add one thing for the few Trump supporters left.

My life sucks. I work about 80 hours a week, I have done so for nearly 2 decades, and I am exhausted. I have missed out on almost everything good in life. And I did it all to sacrifice so that one day I could have a great life. To answer to no one and live on my own terms. Trump has made this goal tougher to achieve, but I will not give up on my dream.

My recent extreme disappointment in Trump isn't about me. I am about to get to where I want to be. I am worried about the next generation. My ability to protect my loved ones in the next generation is seriously hampered thanks to Trump. This isn't about me, this is about the young kids who never got to experience the 1980's. Who can expect to drop $200,000 on college and never get a good job. Who can expect to never find love because the simple requirements for love have been stolen by the elites. Who will more likely give up and drug out rather than ever find happiness.

What Trump is doing to the youth of this nation is down right deplorable. Maybe that is the correct term after all.
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^^^ how the hell are you going to blame all of that on Trump?
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(08-20-2019 04:18 PM)BiggNastee Wrote:  ^^^ how the hell are you going to blame all of that on Trump?

I never said it was all Trump's fault. I don't think any of the "Trump haters" have said anything close to this.

But Trump was our last chance. He got up there and spoke the harsh realities very few politicians ever mention. And then he got in office and did nothing. This thing is going to get so ugly and this was after we had time to save it and the guy who said the right things did nothing in the waning moments.
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(08-20-2019 04:35 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  
(08-20-2019 04:18 PM)BiggNastee Wrote:  ^^^ how the hell are you going to blame all of that on Trump?

I never said it was all Trump's fault. I don't think any of the "Trump haters" have said anything close to this.

But Trump was our last chance. He got up there and spoke the harsh realities very few politicians ever mention. And then he got in office and did nothing. This thing is going to get so ugly and this was after we had time to save it and the guy who said the right things did nothing in the waning moments.
Sorry it's hard for me to appreciate the fall. I know society's collapsing but I'm watching my city, state and outlying regions growing like I've never seen before. Maybe I live in an outlier. Maybe I'm just sick of hearing people bitch about people they'll never see or even March against.

I can only empathize so much. Y'all sound just like the right when Obama was in. The irony of hearing the left repeat the same shit that the right did 5 years ago is just annoying as fuck. I'm all for doing something but as far as I can tell, the only people bitching are people wondering when the wealth is gonna spread. The answer is when you fucking take it.
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(08-20-2019 02:21 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  My ability to protect my loved ones in the next generation is seriously hampered thanks to Trump.

Again, you made the claim, then you didn't answer Nastee's question. You lose credibility over and over. Stop jumping the shark with comments and then when someone asks you to back it up, go silent or distract.

Quote:What Trump is doing to the youth of this nation is down right deplorable. Maybe that is the correct term after all.

Hillary is that you?

If we elected you, I can't even imagine what you/I mean It_is_my_time/ would have said. Trump is responsible for kids jobs? School loans? Your policy in the 1990s?

What on earth are you talking about?
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(08-20-2019 05:12 PM)BiggNastee Wrote:  
(08-20-2019 04:35 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  
(08-20-2019 04:18 PM)BiggNastee Wrote:  ^^^ how the hell are you going to blame all of that on Trump?

I never said it was all Trump's fault. I don't think any of the "Trump haters" have said anything close to this.

But Trump was our last chance. He got up there and spoke the harsh realities very few politicians ever mention. And then he got in office and did nothing. This thing is going to get so ugly and this was after we had time to save it and the guy who said the right things did nothing in the waning moments.
Sorry it's hard for me to appreciate the fall. I know society's collapsing but I'm watching my city, state and outlying regions growing like I've never seen before. Maybe I live in an outlier. Maybe I'm just sick of hearing people bitch about people they'll never see or even March against.

I can only empathize so much. Y'all sound just like the right when Obama was in. The irony of hearing the left repeat the same shit that the right did 5 years ago is just annoying as fuck. I'm all for doing something but as far as I can tell, the only people bitching are people wondering when the wealth is gonna spread. The answer is when you fucking take it.

Things are growing on out of controlled borrowing, which is why the signs of a major economic collapse are starting to take shape.

I don't know if anyone on this forum is "on the left" any more. I never was. I was always on the right but I am much wiser now and see the errors of "conservatism". I criticized the hell out of Obama here because the guy was a massive failure. But at least he advertised himself as a failure and people made the mistake of voting him into office (not that McCain or Romney were any better). Trump actually ran on a campaign of solid ideas and then has failed to follow through on anything of importance while the last minutes tick off the clock.
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(08-20-2019 05:17 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  
(08-20-2019 02:21 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  My ability to protect my loved ones in the next generation is seriously hampered thanks to Trump.

Again, you made the claim, then you didn't answer Nastee's question. You lose credibility over and over. Stop jumping the shark with comments and then when someone asks you to back it up, go silent or distract.

Quote:What Trump is doing to the youth of this nation is down right deplorable. Maybe that is the correct term after all.

Hillary is that you?

If we elected you, I can't even imagine what you/I mean It_is_my_time/ would have said. Trump is responsible for kids jobs? School loans? Your policy in the 1990s?

What on earth are you talking about?

Yes Trump is responsible for those things. When you get up there and say very evil things like "this country needs more immigration" you are destroying the middle class and trying to get the middle class to cheer it on with you.

Do you understand how much trouble this country is in? If you did you would realize we are too low on time to wait until 2024 to finally get a president that will do anything for us. Trump is the end of the road and he failed.
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Let me guess.. Trump makes a profit off of student debt? His liberal leaning ideology in the 90s created the Clinton Foundation.. and well shit. He just hates the thought of teens working at McDonald's. Did I nail the quiz or what?
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I'd respect you more, my_time, if you said that the only way out is a military coup. It'd be a whole lot easier, more logical and you'd save more face here.

Those of us who stump for Trump, at least I can speak for myself, realized that this was just a breather. I hoped it would turn the tide, but the system was decades in the making. Not realizing this is why we continue to protest your nonsensical posts.

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(08-20-2019 05:45 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  I'd respect you more, my_time, if you said that the only way out is a military coup. It'd be a whole lot easier, more logical and you'd save more face here.

Those of us who stump for Trump, at least I can speak for myself, realized that this was just a breather. I hoped it would turn the tide, but the system was decades in the making. Not realizing this is why we continue to protest your nonsensical posts.
Basically.. you lost us at "Hillary"
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(08-20-2019 05:45 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  I'd respect you more, my_time, if you said that the only way out is a military coup. It'd be a whole lot easier, more logical and you'd save more face here.

Those of us who stump for Trump, at least I can speak for myself, realized that this was just a breather. I hoped it would turn the tide, but the system was decades in the making. Not realizing this is why we continue to protest your nonsensical posts.

Which is why the elites, and Trump has done nothing to stop this either, have worked as hard as they can to make the military as liberal as possible. A military coup might have been possible a few decades ago but now the military is so split into nationalists and globalists it would not be a cohesive movement. At least in my following of this subject.

I see no way out of this whatsoever, but that is beyond the subject of this thread. I am talking about Trump being a disappointment in this thread. Going beyond that and dreaming up how we can be saved from a globalist one world govt. is beyond the scope of my interest in this thread. If others want to do so, they are more than welcome, and I would appreciate to read it. I respect and appreciate your idea of a military coup, but I don't think it is feasible any longer. Certainly a point I can agree to disagree upon. I know for a fact Trump is a failure, I don't know if a military coup is possible but I just have a feeling that time has passed as well.
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(08-20-2019 05:20 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  
(08-20-2019 05:12 PM)BiggNastee Wrote:  
(08-20-2019 04:35 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  
(08-20-2019 04:18 PM)BiggNastee Wrote:  ^^^ how the hell are you going to blame all of that on Trump?

I never said it was all Trump's fault. I don't think any of the "Trump haters" have said anything close to this.

But Trump was our last chance. He got up there and spoke the harsh realities very few politicians ever mention. And then he got in office and did nothing. This thing is going to get so ugly and this was after we had time to save it and the guy who said the right things did nothing in the waning moments.
Sorry it's hard for me to appreciate the fall. I know society's collapsing but I'm watching my city, state and outlying regions growing like I've never seen before. Maybe I live in an outlier. Maybe I'm just sick of hearing people bitch about people they'll never see or even March against.

I can only empathize so much. Y'all sound just like the right when Obama was in. The irony of hearing the left repeat the same shit that the right did 5 years ago is just annoying as fuck. I'm all for doing something but as far as I can tell, the only people bitching are people wondering when the wealth is gonna spread. The answer is when you fucking take it.

Things are growing on out of controlled borrowing, which is why the signs of a major economic collapse are starting to take shape.

I don't know if anyone on this forum is "on the left" any more. I never was. I was always on the right but I am much wiser now and see the errors of "conservatism". I criticized the hell out of Obama here because the guy was a massive failure. But at least he advertised himself as a failure and people made the mistake of voting him into office (not that McCain or Romney were any better). Trump actually ran on a campaign of solid ideas and then has failed to follow through on anything of importance while the last minutes tick off the clock.
You're getting piled on but whether or not I agree with everything you say on this thread you are essentially correct. Trump was our last best hope, and in my mind I still hold faint hope for a late rally, but folks we are just about out of time. I fully realize that this man was under an unprecedented and coordinated vicious attack since the moment he was nominated. Perhaps no one could have pulled this off, but the stakes were so high we had to hope he had what it takes. I am reminded of my favorite Winston Churchill quote "Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case." Whether you like it or not we are just about there.
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No surprise that the latest fanboy keeps talking about money.

What is it with this sickness?

God demands of Man responsibility. God demands of Woman vulnerability. These are their curse and blessing alike. Libertianism is to Man as Feminism is to Woman.
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(08-21-2019 12:21 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  No surprise that the latest fanboy keeps talking about money.

What is it with this sickness?

There certainly is a sickness among young men who don't see the entire picture. Comments like "You're just jealous you are not successful" or "hey I am winning in this economy", WHICH WERE NOT MADE ABOVE, I am just using this to make a point...

If you are not worth millions of dollars and already pulling out of the stock market, you are NOT winning in this economy.

If you are not securing million dollar loans with these low interest rates and using that money to expand and already successful business, you are NOT winning in this economy.

Having a nice job in an office and a nice apartment isn't winning in this economy. In fact, you are doing far worse off than the average man a generation older than you did at the same age.

The thought that you can beat this system by being smart with your money and saving it up, is something that no longer works. It worked 30 years ago, but it has ceased to work with these interest rates and bubble sectors all over the country.

But let's just say you are one of the guys "winning" in this economy. You do have millions. Should you really have to be in the top 1% just to enjoy a decent life. Should only the top 1% live a life that isn't full of stress, violence and the bank breathing down your neck? Is that really sustainable long term? Can you pass any of this down to your kids or will the demographics vote in Democrats to tax your will 95%? Will your kids forgive you for not protecting them better when you have everything taken by the tax man? Sure you can hide in your gated communities and isolate yourself, but every time you get the itch to go out on the town you end up surrounded by this desperate society.

Money isn't the answer any more. It could have been a possible answer 10 or so years ago, but that ship has sailed. Either you are a billionaire elite or you are up shit creek.
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(08-21-2019 12:21 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  No surprise that the latest fanboy keeps talking about money.

What is it with this sickness?

Sickness or is it a specific tribal affiliation. Angel

You know what's funny prior to and even quite a bit post 2016 there were clear never-Trump die hards like Ben Shapiro which includes most of the so called right leaning political think tank "academics" writing articles for the ziocon National Review.

Then somewhere along the line this started to shift dramatically.

I think 2017 was the turning point or sometime around then when Jeff Sessions was mysteriously pushed out and then a string of "questionable" appointments which leads up to the present day.

Trump polls higher in Israel than in the U.S.

It's such a mystery. What could all these things have in common hehe. It's also mysterious how there's been such a influx of snarky low rep posters flogging the Republican brown establishment log with gusto.

Rooshv forum was never a Charlie Kirk tier hangout prior to 2016 but suddenly now that things have turned all these dudes show up to tell us what's what.

So many coincidences. It couldn't be tribal or anything could it? nahh.
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It's become apparent to me for some time now but I was never able to distill it until recently.

Many Americans have been conditioned to become Jews minus the ethnocentrism.

I touched on it previously in another thread. How some time around the 80's the "American Dream" was culturally engineered away from "as many people safe and happy in the middle class" to "get rich by any means possible and fuck the haters". As such, and based on the demographics the forum tends to have attracted over the years, you have people from both side of that schism and the rare guys in between like PPT. But for the most part both groups are theoretically speaking the same language without managing to communicate in the least.

"Only the top 10% can benefit from scenario X".
"Yeah, it's great. 10 whole percent. We can make that EASILY".
"But what about the other 90%?"
"What do you mean? I'm not them. I don't understand."
"They'll be worse off."
"If that's a problem then they should work harder to be in the top 10%"
"But that just leaves OTHER people in the bottom 90."
"But they're not me. Why do you hate capitalism?!"

In the same post I noted this in, I explained why Jews don't see a problem with exploiting people dumber than them, Europeans do, and Europeans conditioned to act like Jews will concede to that exploitation as an expression of the thing they've been taught to hold sacred. The most precious thing in the world. The free market. The only freedom that Jews seem to love the goyim having.

The entire schism between the Trump apologists and the anti-Trump faction here seems to be an expression of this duality. Europeans in their heart and soul are community minded. They want the future where as many people as possible are safe and happy in the middle class. Jewified Europeans like so many in America are taught that the opportunity of the one trumps the well-being of the many. Hence they'll lecture people about the free market then proceed to source products made by literal foreign slave labor and lecture their racial brothers that if they too were willing to work for a dollar a day then they would still have jobs.

The joke will be on the latter in the end. They fail to understand that the middle-class is the bulwark against the upper-middle class being fed to the lower class in the next socialist pogrom. The elites will dodge it all as they always do, but the guys putting away a few mil thinking they'll be able to ride this madness out in comfort are kidding themselves. Maybe they could get away with that last century but it's a different ball game now. They're one bad law away from total asset confiscation for the crime of "historic privilege", extradition order in place with a 10% cut going to the government that hands them in.

And with the middle class they gave the finger to all but gone, there will be nobody left to hold the line.

That's why Trump's "wins" on money are worth jack shit, but don't worry about him, he's well on the way to establishing himself as one of the people who will never have to worry about getting served with that warrant in some village in SEA. A few hours later you'll be strapped to a chair having your fingers smashed with a hammer until you give up your crypto keys and then spend the rest of your short life in a work camp.

No? Of course not. How ridiculous. It's not like that sort of thing has ever happened before.

God demands of Man responsibility. God demands of Woman vulnerability. These are their curse and blessing alike. Libertianism is to Man as Feminism is to Woman.
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In a nutshell, things like community, a common language, culture, cooperation, civility, clean and healthy environments have been all distilled into the poisonous cocktail known as “the economy”.

But hey, as long as the Dow Jones is up it’s all good.

To add to what Lenny is saying, George Carlin joked that if you go to the bookstore section and check the self-help isle, you’ll find titles like “How to be an aggressive dick and fuck people over” or “Get rich or die tryin” lol. Exaggerated but you get the idea. Everything is predicated on you, you, you and fuck everyone else. Not healthy. Just sayin...
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Wow LBN you've nailed it. Again. I would like to chime in, even though I am the low post low rep poster. A boomer too. I guess that three strikes and I'm out. Anyway be forewarned this will be a TLDR.

During the years us boomers were born (1946-64) real incomes even when factoring for inflation doubled or more in the US. Unprecedented prosperity that lifted millions of families into the middle class. It seemed like it would last forever. In the 70s the rest of the world began to catch up with us, the world was our economic oyster for over a generation due to the hangover of yet another World War. Additionally, the jettisoning of Bretton Woods and other factors lead to a roaring inflation throughout the 70's. It was in this decade that we really began to lose our industrial base. 200,000 steel worker jobs in 1955 was down to 90,000 by 1979 in the Pittsburgh area. Vicious recessions in 1974/75 and 1981/83 were a one two punch from which American industry has yet to recover. The effects of the treasonous 1965 Immigration Act were beginning to be felt socially and economically. The two tiered American economy was born and has grown into the monster it is today. I tip my hat to LBN for his succinct and accurate description of what transpired in the 1980s. Even more impressive he's not an American.

I give Trump credit for reversing the effects of the 70's and 80's even if in small degrees. His economy is the best in decades. However, I don't know how long it will last and good economies have zero positive effect for modern Republican Presidents or candidates but they will be punished for a bad one. McCain and Palin looked like winners in September and dead in the water in October 2008. How much of their net worth did black households lose under two Obama administrations? Plenty. Didn't stop them for voting 95% or more for him. Everyone on the planet is still strongly tribal except for whites in advanced western nations.

Recently we had a brief vacation in Pennsylvania. Traveled from Monroe County in the NE of the state of the state to Greene County near the WV border. We stayed in Johnstown for a couple of days so I could see some of the Amateur Baseball Tournament going on there. I like little bits of arcane Americana. The vistas in and around Johnstown are nothing short of spectacular. Pennsylvania is such a green and underrated state that still holds a lot of the traditional country of my youth. Johnstown has been savaged for decades, it was once a small industrial powerhouse in the midst of surrounding fertile farmland. Now just a shadow of its former self. Trump was the first Presidential candidate that addressed the decades long pain of the Rust Belt. He carried Pennsylvania, a state that had been blue in Presidential election since 1988. If the election were held today he would lose it decisively. Still time to turn it around but time is now very short.

LBN's view of the potential fate of the top tenth is foreboding to say the least. The left of center economically but conservative socially Democratic Party I knew in my youth is now the party of Pol Pot. In Chicago, the city I lived in and loved as my home for decades they have a half dozen or so members of City Council that make AOC look like a Chamber of Commerce Republican. Pol Pot marched the intelligencia from the cities into the country side where they were executed outright or just worked to death. The modern day Pol Potters will crush the small town and rural resisters with heavy carbon and meat taxes forcing them into the cesspools that are now our cities.

I've stayed clear of the Jewish thing raging here and elsewhere. I grew up with them in my long ago elementary school years in Chicago. As I grow older I just wonder why the Jewish elites are sawing off the very logs they are sitting on. I have no answer for that.
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RE: Complaints of Donald Trump thread
If you watch Trumps latest outburst about the Greenland thing, where he was told to go get fucked (and rightly so) by the Danish PM, he sounds like a fucking idiot.

We’re not dealing with a serious man here, guys. This dude is all over the place and makes no sense. Could be dementia or senility setting in.
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