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^^^Thanks for posting the link about Doug Casey. I’ve never heard of him so I thought I’d check him out by reading his interview
A later search found another interesting article about him https://www.avaresearch.com/articles/cro...-pp-e-book
Regarding the article
The two possibilities Casey identified regarding Epstein’s sex slaves were
1) He Satisfied the perversions of the elite reminiscent of Romanesque type debauchery
2) He Used underage women for blackmail purposes
The second was given brief consideration during his interview, favouring the first possibility by doubling down on the moral fibre of their parents and the hypergamous nature of young girls involved
The second option is so much more realistic considering the circles he circulated in and the 3 letter agencies now in charge of the investigation. The first option is usually presided over by police, councillors and religious leaders
Let’s be clear, these children were chosen for sex slavery because they came from broken fucked up homes, because they have hypergamous natures, because they have fucked parents and finally and most importantly, because they were legally underage rather than that they were all of the above
Epstein was a purveyor of sex slaves from the age of 8-17…there is no illegal activity if they were older, only immoral. You can leverage moral blackmail but criminal and moral outrage is the type of currency international conspirators use
It looks as though Epstein was killed because his sweetheart deal went mainstream implicating some heavy hitters, his death provided the perfect opportunity to transfer the blackmail material to another party and the quash the inevitable surfacing of how things are really run should he go to trial
Philosophies such as Ocham’s razor where the simplest explanation is usually the correct one may not be believable to some but thank goodness they don’t have to believe it in order for it to still be true
One real standout regarding his interview was the total absence of Jewish interests, their influence and involvement with Jewish businessman Jeffrey Epstein. A simple explanation for that could be he is a gate keeper used to obfuscate and deflect his readers from who’s really behind this blackmail racket, that
1) use paedophilia blackmail as the means of entrapment and control of elite musicians, politicians, professors etc who have a predilection for high risk
2) Use paedophilia as a rite of passage into the top echelons of power
3) Use both
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This thread is well into it's hayday, but figured I'd add my two cents:

Epstein was a shithead - like most wealthy Jewish boomers - and whether he was murdered or killed himself, I'm glad he's clear of this Earth. We need less people like him running around - hopefully this case brings to light as many evil doers as possible.
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Casey and Altucher are promoting the Epstein as bordello operator theory rather than Epstein as blackmailer theory. But they are consciously ignoring evidence of Epstein’s surveillance equipment, ties to intelligence, and ability to operate with impunity. They also fail to explain where he got his seed money. The intelligence backed blackmail theory is outlandish but at least explains all the facts.
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Casey and Altucher are promoting the Epstein as bordello operator theory rather than Epstein as blackmailer theory. But they are consciously ignoring evidence of Epstein’s surveillance equipment, ties to intelligence, and ability to operate with impunity. They also fail to explain where he got his seed money. The intelligence backed blackmail theory is outlandish but at least explains all the facts.
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I still believe this wont go as far as it should but it is a crack in the dam. More things will need to be blown open and more people need to be made aware of it.

Once that happens these power players will be desperate for a 9/11 type scenario.
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Let me tell you my conspiracy theory on why the Epstein case came to light and what will be the end game... Tinfoilhat

The top globohomo elite is slow boiling for a total takeover in form of a one world communist government.

The epstein case is a piece of the puzzle.

Just like they brutally abolished monarchies they want to totally discredit the top layers of western governments.

There is probably some infighting right now as nobody wants to be a useful idiot / patsy which also led to Epstein's death and there are probably multiple layers of truths among them.

I predict the top elite will succeed releasing #torturechamber footage or w/e probably during / right after an economic crash to justify their one world communist government takeover through a false messiah.

I don't think they have that kind of dirt on Trump but allegedly he is walking a tightrope none the less:

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/03/31...ias-bitch/
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Virginia Giuffre was 17 when the alleged abuse happened.

How did she get mixed up in all of this?
Why could she not have left this situation?
Where the fuck were her parents?
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Give me a billion dollars, a capacity for manipulation, intimidation, a slew of high power/profile visitors and a security team that looks like they moonlight as wetwork operators (and probably do) and 99.99% of 17 year old girls are not going to do anything except say "what do you want me to do, sir?"

Ever been put against a wall by a group of burly cops when you were that young? A gang of 1%ers that seemed like they were about to fuck you up?

Imagine that scenario over international waters when the thugs are actually hired killers. It's laughable to suggest that these girls "should have just left". They wouldn't have taken a piss without permission.

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(08-26-2019 03:12 PM)Hypno Wrote:  Casey and Altucher are promoting the Epstein as bordello operator theory rather than Epstein as blackmailer theory. But they are consciously ignoring evidence of Epstein’s surveillance equipment, ties to intelligence, and ability to operate with impunity. They also fail to explain where he got his seed money. The intelligence backed blackmail theory is outlandish but at least explains all the facts.

I like Alutcher's theory, hence why I posted it, but I think the truth is a bit more sensational.

Perhaps the Cub Epstein bordello was a thing, as well as Epstein as blackmailer.

But every aspect of his operation suggests he was simply a single node in a much larger network. A network controlled by someone or something bigger and more powerful than him.

Intelligence agencies, secretive billionaire influence networks....who knows. But it explains everything about his operation. The unlimited private jet travel, being gifted mega mansions in NYC, ability to molest underage girls with impunity, etc.

He was probably in a role analogous to Vice President in most organizations. Near the top, and gets a lot of perks, but not quite in the C suite. Also subject to, shall we say, termination under difficult business conditions.
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(08-28-2019 09:17 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Imagine that scenario over international waters when the thugs are actually hired killers. It's laughable to suggest that these girls "should have just left". They wouldn't have taken a piss without permission.

I take your point.

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But this girl does not look like she's one false move away from having her head blown off.

What Epstein did was a moral transgression as well as against the law, I'm merely raising questions as to why these girls - who all seem quite middle-class and intelligent - were unable to pick up a phone and call the police or a loving parent.
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(08-28-2019 12:55 PM)griffinmill Wrote:  What Epstein did was a moral transgression as well as against the law, I'm merely raising questions as to why these girls - who all seem quite middle-class and intelligent - were unable to pick up a phone and call the police or a loving parent.

I agree. Occam's razor says basic human frailties are responsible: too much time, money, and moral rot (abusers), greed and neediness (girls), and poor parenting (parents). Moral decay all around. This does not exclude more sinister elements, but these were the necessary precursors.

The sad fact is that good decision-making regarding very basic moral choices by any one of these three groups would have avoided all this sick insanity.
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@jeffreyjerpp, I like Altucher but the problem with his bordello club theory is what it doesn’t address. Let’s say you wanted to copy Epstein. How would you get started? How much money? How to source clients? How do you operate above the law and even after your operation becomes public? How did such coincidences occur that none of the cameras captured your suicide?

Oceans razor = never mind the mans behind the curtain. (((Altucher))) offers a limited hangout to obfuscate rather than clarify. Why?

All of these unanswered questions point to a larger organizing force behind Epstein. As you say, he was a node of something larger.

Once you accept that, it begs further questions. Who was he working for? Who did they compromise? What did those who were compromised do or refrain from doing?
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(08-28-2019 01:55 PM)Hypno Wrote:  Once you accept that, it begs further questions. Who was he working for? Who did they compromise? What did those who were compromised do or refrain from doing?

I think it's less of a one time thing and more of a lifestyle / secret club type situation.

You're in the pedo club now with all the other high level people we can connect you with. We might give you instructions on occasion (i.e. hiring specific people, pushing pre defined policies etc.) and you will need to play ball no questions asked.

Pizzagate was / is the satanic arm of this. (Epstein didn't strike me as someone that goes that far)
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(08-28-2019 12:55 PM)griffinmill Wrote:  What Epstein did was a moral transgression as well as against the law, I'm merely raising questions as to why these girls - who all seem quite middle-class and intelligent - were unable to pick up a phone and call the police or a loving parent.

The elephant in the room is that most of them didn't endure anything very bad at all. They were getting paid to dwell in luxury and have sex with a handsome rich guy. The horror!

Feminists and mainstream media want the narrative to be about a wealthy, white patriarch abusing naive young women. It's not. All we learned is that many teenage girls have bad judgment, even worse parents, and are willing to prostitute themselves to older men if the price is right.

The actual story is that we got an unfiltered look at real power, and the lifestyle of a top globalist operative.

It consists mainly of hot teen girls, blackmail networks, intelligence agencies, private islands with freaky occult temples, mysterious deaths, and billions of dollars moving around. Kind of awesome, in a very amoral way.
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(08-26-2019 02:27 PM)Hypno Wrote:  They also fail to explain where he got his seed money.

That part is pretty simple. Good at math, taught at NYC private school, got noticed, got hired at Bear Stearns and developed his skills. From there, a few really rich people started trusting Epstein, who was probably a competent and maybe above average trader, to invest their money. A few more came along.

They recognized Epstein was probably as good as a major hedge fund with the added bonus of not being well known - real rich people don't want unnecessary publicity. So a few of them tried him out, got good results, and as word spread in the click he continued to perform.

Big hedge funds and financial firms have hundreds of billions of assets under management and extensive cadres of the best traders and money managers. If Epstein were just one guy but "only" managed 5 billion or so, that wouldn't take long to work it's way into a serious pile of cash.

If all he did was throw 5 billion into a high yield savings bank at 2.5% that would be 10 million dollars a month, for doing nothing. Do the math yourself, it's true. Yes, of course he couldn't do that at one bank and would need to spread it all over the world, but you get the idea. He did way more than that, putting money all kinds of places and into all sorts of trades.

Whether the hidden camera thing was his own perversion or whether there really was a blackmail operation is almost irrelevant to the question of how he raised his money - compound interest is far more powerful than any monetary blackmail payment.

The question would be whether there's any evidence of anyone such as state actors leaning on participants for acts as a result of any blackmail operation.

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@jeffreyjerpp, I like Altucher but the problem with his bordello club theory is what it doesn’t address. Let’s say you wanted to copy Epstein. How would you get started? How much money? How to source clients? How do you operate above the law and even after your operation becomes public? How did such coincidences occur that none of the cameras captured your suicide?

Oceans razor = never mind the mans behind the curtain. (((Altucher))) offers a limited hangout to obfuscate rather than clarify. Why?

All of these unanswered questions point to a larger organizing force behind Epstein. As you say, he was a node of something larger.

Once you accept that, it begs further questions. Who was he working for? Who did they compromise? What did those who were compromised do or refrain from doing?
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Someone did a pretty in-depth study of Epstein years ago (name slips me) and could not figure out where his money came from. Noted that you don't make a billion dollars quietly in the financial industry. His only client was Wexner, wasn't it, who just so happens to be connected with MEGA and pro-Israeli interests.

The elitist pedo ring is a possibility but the CIA/Mossad angle seems more plausible to me given who's involved: Epstein, Wexner (Mega group), the Maxwells. And then there's Acosta's comment that “I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone."
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(08-28-2019 04:39 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  
(08-26-2019 02:27 PM)Hypno Wrote:  They also fail to explain where he got his seed money.

That part is pretty simple. Good at math, taught at NYC private school, got noticed, got hired at Bear Stearns and developed his skills. From there, a few really rich people started trusting Epstein, who was probably a competent and maybe above average trader, to invest their money. A few more came along.

They recognized Epstein was probably as good as a major hedge fund with the added bonus of not being well known - real rich people don't want unnecessary publicity. So a few of them tried him out, got good results, and as word spread in the click he continued to perform.

Big hedge funds and financial firms have hundreds of billions of assets under management and extensive cadres of the best traders and money managers. If Epstein were just one guy but "only" managed 5 billion or so, that wouldn't take long to work it's way into a serious pile of cash.

If all he did was throw 5 billion into a high yield savings bank at 2.5% that would be 10 million dollars a month, for doing nothing. Do the math yourself, it's true. Yes, of course he couldn't do that at one bank and would need to spread it all over the world, but you get the idea. He did way more than that, putting money all kinds of places and into all sorts of trades.

Whether the hidden camera thing was his own perversion or whether there really was a blackmail operation is almost irrelevant to the question of how he raised his money - compound interest is far more powerful than any monetary blackmail payment.

The question would be whether there's any evidence of anyone such as state actors leaning on participants for acts as a result of any blackmail operation.

You ended with:
The question would be whether there's any evidence of anyone such as state actors leaning on participants for acts as a result of any blackmail operation.

So I’d like to hold you up to your own standards

‘That part is pretty simple. Good at math, taught at NYC private school, got noticed (by who?), got hired at Bear Stearns and developed his skills (supposition where is your evidence?). From there, a few really rich people (supposition, who?) started trusting Epstein (supposition, speculation, where is your evidence?), who was probably a competent and maybe above average trader (supposition, what evidence?), to invest their money. A few more came along (supposition, who?).

They (who?) recognized Epstein was probably as good as a major hedge fund (supposition, what evidence?) with the added bonus of not being well known (supposition, what evidence?) - real rich people don't want unnecessary publicity (supposition, speculation). So a few of them (who?) tried him out (speculation, where is your evidence?), got good results (any proof?), and as word spread in the click he continued to perform (speculation, where is your evidence?).

Big hedge funds and financial firms have hundreds of billions of assets under management and extensive cadres of the best traders and money managers. If Epstein were just one guy (supposition, what evidence?) but "only" managed 5 billion (where, when, how and by whom?) or so, that wouldn't take long to work it's way into a serious pile of cash.

If all he did was throw 5 billion into a high yield savings bank at 2.5% that would be 10 million dollars a month, for doing nothing. Do the math yourself, it's true. Yes, of course he couldn't do that at one bank and would need to spread it all over the world, but you get the idea. He did way more than that, putting money all kinds of places and into all sorts of trades(speculation, where’s your proof?).

Whether the hidden camera thing was his own perversion (speculation, where’s your evidence?) or whether there really was a blackmail operation is almost irrelevant to the question of how he raised his money (why?) - compound interest is far more powerful than any monetary blackmail payment (please explain?).

Speculating on every part of Epstein’s life from career path, friends, investment strategy so as to make his billions from compound interest being “more powerful than any monetary blackmail payment” is simply incredulous

I’ll be interested to see solid evidentiary facts to support your…feelings
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(08-28-2019 09:15 PM)Bazzwaldo Wrote:  I’ll be interested to see solid evidentiary facts to support your…feelings

If there was solid evidence about almost anything related to Epstein, almost none of the posts in this thread would exist.

Why pick on SlickyBoy? Almost everything in this thread is conjecture that is based on very limited facts.

I proposed a very similar hypothesis in post number 811. It is the most logical scenario for Epstein making his money.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-73614...pid2012451

Nefarious forces could have approached Epstein after he made his fortune, with the lure of easy sex and power over others.
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(08-28-2019 09:38 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 09:15 PM)Bazzwaldo Wrote:  I’ll be interested to see solid evidentiary facts to support your…feelings

If there was solid evidence about almost anything related to Epstein, almost none of the posts in this thread would exist.

Why pick on SlickyBoy? Almost everything in this thread is conjecture that is based on very limited facts.

I proposed a very similar hypothesis in post number 811. It is the most logical scenario for Epstein making his money.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-73614...pid2012451

Nefarious forces could have approached Epstein after he made his fortune, with the lure of easy sex and power over others.

Tailgunner, you miss my point, Slickyboy asks for evidence for one side of the argument but doesn't feel the need to supply any for his
Furthermore, I'm not picking on Slickyboy, he offers interesting observations on many subjects on this forum, for that matter, so do you
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(08-28-2019 08:54 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  Virginia Giuffre was 17 when the alleged abuse happened.

How did she get mixed up in all of this?
Why could she not have left this situation?
Where the fuck were her parents?

I've been asking this question for months now. Not a single peep out of anyone regarding how the fuck a girl (who is british?) just shows up at an older man's (and/or his madam's) house/island, just out of the blue, presumably not knowing what's going on ("Maxwell procured her" is a line in the Sun). The story makes zero sense, yet not a single line even daring to ask the question of what she was doing or how she really got there. They didn't kidnap her. But somehow it's everyone else's fault? Was this like Pinocchio and Fantasy Island?
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(08-28-2019 09:38 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  Nefarious forces could have approached Epstein after he made his fortune, with the lure of easy sex and power over others.

I don't buy it, it is unheard of for him to be hired without a college degree to be a High School teacher of math at Dalton, and it was when Barr's dad was on his way out as Headmaster, maybe the weirdest twist of all. He was hired under Barr's watch at age 21. He then went on to Bear Stearns. Many spoke with him, I've read, and he rarely talked about the kind of investments he actually did with the gobs of money that just fell into his accounts.

This story is BS, it is unequivocally due to jewish linked hires and promotions. Beyond that, I don't know what's really going on, but the intelligence thing seems like clearly the simplest explanation given Acosta's statements.
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(08-28-2019 10:34 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 08:54 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  Virginia Giuffre was 17 when the alleged abuse happened.

How did she get mixed up in all of this?
Why could she not have left this situation?
Where the fuck were her parents?

I've been asking this question for months now. Not a single peep out of anyone regarding how the fuck a girl (who is british?) just shows up at an older man's (and/or his madam's) house/island, just out of the blue, presumably not knowing what's going on ("Maxwell procured her" is a line in the Sun). The story makes zero sense, yet not a single line even daring to ask the question of what she was doing or how she really got there. They didn't kidnap her. But somehow it's everyone else's fault? Was this like Pinocchio and Fantasy Island?

We've noted before. Either the parents were pimping her out or were absent in her life. I think a lot of guys here don't remember what it was like to be 17 years old. None of us are female and few of us are submissive personality types.

Take away my conscience, give me a billion dollars and I'll have an island full of jailbait in a month. There's a thousand ways to organise it more-or-less seamlessly and once you have these girls on the hook they can be programmed for total subservience easily. We have entire threads on this forum dedicated to doing just that.

God demands of Man responsibility. God demands of Woman vulnerability. These are their curse and blessing alike. Libertianism is to Man as Feminism is to Woman.
08-29-2019 02:59 AM
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