Post: #1

I hate to start this thread on a negative story but feel free to use this thread to share Catholic doctrine, ideas, videos, etc.

CATHOLIC BISHOP OPENLY SUPPORTS SAME-SEX MARRIAGE

Quote:The Diocese of Basel is one of the largest Catholic dioceses in Switzerland, and according to the Catholic news site Church Militant, its bishop, director of communications, and one of its prominent deacons have all issued support or approval of same-sex “marriages.”

This was revealed, when Hansruedi Huber, the director of communications for the diocese reportedly expressed support on the part of the diocese for proposed regulations that would legalize so-called same-sex “marriage.” The issue is being framed as being for the good of children raised by homosexuals.

The site Church Militant quotes him as saying:

“We welcome the proposed regulations that give homosexual partnerships a stable and reliable legal coverage. It is important to us that children who grow up in same-sex partnerships receive a legal framework that serves the best interests of the child."

http://orthochristian.com/123875.html

I imagine the best interests of the child is not to be adopted by homosexuals in the first place.

Post: #2

Baptized into the Catholic church as an infant and raising my children in it, despite the fact that it is an open secret nearly all priests are gay men. I never leave my children alone with a priest; most activities such as CCD are led by moms and nuns. There is a powerful gay cabal of priests and bishops, who apparently forced out the previous pope.

I do believe in the apostolic succession and the ultimate validity of the Church (together with the other apostolic faiths, such as Orthodoxy), so protestantism is not an option.

What I hope for is a complete cleansing of the church. Very unlikely to happen any time soon, but who knows.

Post: #3

What is CCD?

Post: #4

(09-13-2019 04:20 PM)Roosh Wrote:  What is CCD?

I think CCD is "Confraternity of Christian Doctrine".

Quote:The Confraternity of Christian Doctrine was an association established at Rome in 1562 for the purpose of providing religious education. Today CCD refers to a religious education program of the Catholic Church, normally designed for children.

Other source - https://www.catholic.org/encyclopedia/view.php?id=2925

Post: #5

Budoslavic is correct. CCD is the after-school education program for children; in my decent-sized parish in Northern Virginia, there are at least a hundred kids in it. The classes teach church doctrine, some bible study, and prepare the kids for first communion, confirmation, and confession/reconciliation (they are required to complete CCD before receiving these sacraments).

I personally am a “nominal Catholic” in that I was baptized, and do attend Mass, but never attended CCD or RCIA (the adult classes, for converts and “nominal Catholics” like me), and so do not participate in those sacraments.

Post: #6

I’m currently going through RCIA and highly recommend it to anyone curious about Catholicism. Of course it varies by parish, but you can usually go to introductory sessions to check it out before signing up.

Post: #7

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/investig...story.html

Quote:A penthouse, limousines and private jets: Inside the globe-trotting life of Bishop Michael Bransfield

It was billed as a holy journey, a pilgrimage with West Virginia Bishop Michael J. Bransfield to “pray, sing and worship” at the National Shrine in Washington. Catholics from remote areas of one of the nation’s poorest states paid up to $190 for hotel rooms and overnight bus rides to the nation’s capital.

Unknown to the worshipers, Bransfield traveled another way. He hired a private jet and, after a 33-minute flight, took a limousine from the airport. The church picked up his $6,769 travel bill.

That trip in September 2017 was emblematic of the secret history of Bransfield’s lavish travel. He spent millions of dollars from his diocese on trips in the United States and abroad, records show, while many of his parishioners struggled to find work, feed their families and educate their children.

Pope Francis has said bishops should live modestly. During his 13 years as the leader of ­the Diocese of Wheeling-Charleston, Bransfield took nearly 150 trips on private jets and some 200 limousine rides, a Washington Post investigation found. He stayed at exclusive hotels in Washington, Rome, Paris, London and the Caribbean.

Catholic church has nothing to do with faith, worship, and man's relationship with God. It is just another corporation that gets tax benefits and protects the interests of its top echelon. Its global network allows itself to have a parallel institution outside the control of governments and law enforcement. The powerful diocese can negotiate deals behind the scene to sweep gross financial and sexual abuse under the rug.

Worst of all its entire system of faith is predicated on guilt and remorse. Guilt is indeed a powerful emotion to manipulate people, especially the poor masses.

Post: #8

Here's some recent news on the opposite note: https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-c...-and-minds

Quote:Archbishop of Krakow: Gay 'Rainbow Plague' Wants to 'Control Our Souls, Hearts and Minds'

In Krakow, Poland on Aug. 1, the 75th anniversary of the Warsaw Uprising, the Archsbishop of Krakow delivered a sermon during Mass in which he said Poland is no longer tormented by the "red plague" of Soviet communism, but is infected by a "rainbow" plague, homosexuality, which denies human dignity and seeks to control "our souls, hearts, and minds."

"A red plague is not gripping our land anymore, which does not mean that there is not a new one that wants to control our souls, hearts and minds,” said Archbishop Marek Jedraszewski, as reported by Reuters.

"Not Marxist, Bolshevik, but born of the same spirit, neo-Marxist," he said. "Not red, but rainbow."

Post: #9

E. Michael Jones has had a positive influence on the Catholic Church in Poland, its greatest stronghold in E. Europe. He spoke in person to the clergy leadership in Krakow and his works have been translated in Polish.

Poland of course has had a long history of deep cultural strife, having had the largest and most powerful Jewish population from the Renaissance on. This cultural strife of course took on another more virulent form in the 29th century when Jewish domination morphed into Bolshevism.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/cOI0cVs6rm0/

Excerpt from a presentation Jones made in Poland, where he explained how societies are degraded and controlled through the rainbow plague described by Archbishop Jedraszewski above:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/INfHqiiU0kQg/

Logos is rising in the East. It will rise in the West too.

Post: #10

Nobody can be bothered to chart the abuses by various elders in other Christian denominations simply because they are statistically socially irrelevant.

What corruption and avarice is committed by the government of Malta?
The answer is nobody cares because Malta is tiny and insignificant.

So if a one-church denomination finds out their priest is a homo nobody jumps up and says "OMG 100 percent of the priests in denomination X are gay!!!"

God works through those who seek out his salvation. The question is then what does the typical Catholic believe? How do they behave? Are majority Catholic nations closer to the devil or further away than non-Catholic majority nations?

Eastern Orthodox seem to have the edge there but unless you live in those places then you're better off joining the local team.

Many Christian denominations weren't here a century or two ago and won't be around in a century or two more. satan marshals his forces where they can do meaningful damage.

Post: #11

What constitutes a practicing Catholic:




1. Attend mass every Sunday AND on days of obligation.
2. Confession once a year
3. Receive communion once during Easter
4. Observe days of fasting
5. Support material needs of the church according to your ability

Post: #12

(09-13-2019 07:06 PM)monsquid Wrote:  https://beta.washingtonpost.com/investig...story.html

Quote:A penthouse, limousines and private jets: Inside the globe-trotting life of Bishop Michael Bransfield

It was billed as a holy journey, a pilgrimage with West Virginia Bishop Michael J. Bransfield to “pray, sing and worship” at the National Shrine in Washington. Catholics from remote areas of one of the nation’s poorest states paid up to $190 for hotel rooms and overnight bus rides to the nation’s capital.

Unknown to the worshipers, Bransfield traveled another way. He hired a private jet and, after a 33-minute flight, took a limousine from the airport. The church picked up his $6,769 travel bill.

That trip in September 2017 was emblematic of the secret history of Bransfield’s lavish travel. He spent millions of dollars from his diocese on trips in the United States and abroad, records show, while many of his parishioners struggled to find work, feed their families and educate their children.

Pope Francis has said bishops should live modestly. During his 13 years as the leader of ­the Diocese of Wheeling-Charleston, Bransfield took nearly 150 trips on private jets and some 200 limousine rides, a Washington Post investigation found. He stayed at exclusive hotels in Washington, Rome, Paris, London and the Caribbean.

Catholic church has nothing to do with faith, worship, and man's relationship with God. It is just another corporation that gets tax benefits and protects the interests of its top echelon. Its global network allows itself to have a parallel institution outside the control of governments and law enforcement. The powerful diocese can negotiate deals behind the scene to sweep gross financial and sexual abuse under the rug.

Worst of all its entire system of faith is predicated on guilt and remorse. Guilt is indeed a powerful emotion to manipulate people, especially the poor masses.

This isn't a Catholic hate thread. Tone it down for future posts.

Post: #13

I was raised as a Catholic from birth and have participated in many Catholic activities, and organizations.

Not a Catholic by faith anymore, but I still have many Catholic people in my life and participate in some events.

I know the practical life of Catholicism inside and out.

(09-13-2019 11:57 PM)Kish Wrote:  What constitutes a practicing Catholic:




1. Attend mass every Sunday AND on days of obligation.
2. Confession once a year
3. Receive communion once during Easter
4. Observe days of fasting
5. Support material needs of the church according to your ability

This is not accurate.

A Catholic is asked to make Confession and receive communion at least twice per year - around Christmas and Easter, that is. But this is the very low bar.

A real Catholic who takes his faith seriously will make confession monthly and receive communion every Sunday at mass, plus the biggest Catholic fiests that happen to fall outside Sunday like Day of Ascension of Virgin Mary, day of proclamation to Virgin Mary, Ash Friday and some others.

For instance if you are looking for a Catholic wife and she is one that goes to confession only once a year - she is only nominally Catholic. Do not marry her!

You want a real believer that is living the spiritual life Catholic Church provides.


A real practicing Catholic (woman):

- Goes to Church every Sunday and receives communion every Sunday because she has been to Confession recently. Recently meaning she attends Confession once every four weeks.

- Goes to Church also at workdays if a day of important celebration falls in that day.

- Reads Catholic books.

- Has Catholic friends.

- Is part of a Catholic sub-organization for lay people, like Chemain Neuf, Caritas, Emmanuel, Carmelite Ecclesiastic movement or at least and active member of her Parish life and participates in activities other then mass.

Post: #14

What do you guys think about the series "The Young Pope"? I really liked the first season, but when I watched it, my interest in religion was just reemerging. I am sure things get subverted in many different ways but imagining a Pope like him is a dream for me (at least it seems like that on the surface).

They will release a new season called "The New Pope." I link a teaser below. At 1:22 the title reads "The Jew Pope" as some of the commenters on yt noted.

I look forward to watching it. My opinion was that it was a fun and exciting take on belief and the Catholic Church, but in recent months I got more careful with the type of media I consume.

Post: #15

Worth watching the whole thing.


The lady goes in-depth into exactly what the church is dealing with.


TLDR takeaway for anyone who can't be assed to watch the video (which you really should).


McKarrick, the Archbishop who covered up the sex abuse scandal, was a major figure in the deep state and was hanging out with numerous deep state power players as well as conducting diplomacy for Obama and helping to provide Obama political cover.

Post: #16

The Catholic Church is the most powerful, most insidious conspiracy in the modern world today. At one point [[[they]]] controlled all of Europe with corruption and greed unparalleled in history. [[[They]]] have their tentacles everywhere. Priest abuse of children is just one tiny hint of what's really going on. They used to be more conservative and now just being shown as part of the globohomo communist agenda.

My ancestors, the English and Scandinavians, were the first to throw off the yolk of Cathlocism and point out it's descent into sin. Here in the USA Cathlocism has always been frowned upon by the Prostestant majority. Many nations, like Australia and Bolivia, are still trapped in bondage.

Most Catholics nonetheless are great people who love God.

Post: #17

Protestantism?

Protestantism has zero chance of ever resisting subversion because the fully embrace the concept of moral law being subjective to one's own interpretation. Once one accepts that you have no authority to tell others that their behavior is wrong or to limit that destructive behavior. It was the Catholics, not the Protestants who enforced moral codes and kept Hollywood's corruption of the culture stalled for decades.

Catholicism has been corrupted and restored previously. Whatever happened did so with Vatican 2.

Post: #18

You can still find a few strong traditional Catholic priests at least in Europe.

If there is none around - daily prayer at home works as well.

I personally had many good experiences with Catholic priests growing up with it. I had no issue with them - most were strong masculine sane men, but in Europe almost 50% of them are Polish - they export them everywhere else.

But obviously the church is deeply infiltrated up to the highest degree now.

Post: #19

I’m with Mage on this one. Confession and communion once per year hardly counts as practicing anything but apathy. I’m surprised Father Mike put that video out, I usually like his material but would have taken a very different angle on what constitutes a practicing Christian of any variety.

Post: #20

(09-14-2019 04:41 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  I’m with Mage on this one. Confession and communion once per year hardly counts as practicing anything but apathy. I’m surprised Father Mike put that video out, I usually like his material but would have taken a very different angle on what constitutes a practicing Christian of any variety.

Shouldn't he know better than we do?

Post: #21

You’re correct that he should know better.

In practice they don’t for reasons already covered in content I’ve posted.

Post: #22

(09-14-2019 04:44 PM)Kish Wrote:  

(09-14-2019 04:41 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  I’m with Mage on this one. Confession and communion once per year hardly counts as practicing anything but apathy. I’m surprised Father Mike put that video out, I usually like his material but would have taken a very different angle on what constitutes a practicing Christian of any variety.

Shouldn't he know better than we do?

He should and he does but his job is to get people in the Church. His target audience is not hardcore Catholics who know the stuff anyway, but people who have little knowledge about Catholicism. He lures in with promising that it's all quite easy and undemanding and the more in you are the more you will learn of the demands.

Most religions do this, Islam is even more dishonest then Christianity in this way, because Muslims never tell wannabe converts that you deserve to die if you leave Islam. And of course sects (mislabeled as cults in English) like Scientology or Jehovah Witnesses or Mormons are even worse slander you and make you lose your family and they probably would kill you for leaving too, but unlike Islam they are too weak to get away with that.

Christianity lures you in telling all you need is to observe a few rituals like mass and rarely do a sacrament and just observe commandments, but the more you are in the more it will be revealed that you are so abhorrent a sinner that only God's grace can save you and you must pray for it day and night, leave everything of this world behind and God gives no warranty apparent in this life. This can drive you paranoid and push you to become dogmatic and fanatical.

All religions will milk you as much as you allow them to. If you are a casual faithful they will take just your donations, but if you ask for it they will all be glad to make a martyr out of you.

While the Catholic spirituality is somewhat valid and will indeed make you a better person and make you more in relative (compared to a secularist or protestant) tune with Natural Law, it is still an unnatural priest class run religion an their discourse with lay people will always be full of half-truths and marketing tricks and game. Same with Protestantism. Watched a few Living Water videos. They are all clearly edited and full of game and half-truths.

You must practice union with God independently of your circumstances, being in a religion or a sect (mislabeled cult in English) or not. Only this will allow you to find the real balance point between sinfulness and fanaticism. This is why I consider Yoga and meditation to be the superior path. You must connect with divine directly, if you use a proxy like a scripture or a priest you will be manipulated.

Post: #23

This might be a topic for another thread, but how do those of you who are American nationalists and Catholic square your beliefs with the current state of your church in the US? I'm referring specifically to how the RCC pushes for open borders and mass immigration from Latin America and the rest of the third world. I attend mass with my Latina devout Catholic wife and even when it's the rare English mass (there are more in Spanish in our area now) no more than about 20% of those in attendance were born in the US. Last Memorial Day we sang "America the Beautiful" as the last hymn. The Asian couple behind us laughed audibly and stood up and left, as did most of the congregation who, again, were mostly foreigners.

At my wife's community celebrations of the Eucharist they go through the motions of having it mostly in English, but we could just switch into Spanish and almost everyone would be more comfortable. I imagine we will eventually switch into Spanish with interpreters for the few, aging heritage Americans who still show up. We get Mexican priests preaching about the need for "immigration reform" and I don't think they're talking about Trump's wall. On a larger scale, there are the current pope's statement about not building walls.

Is any of this a concern to those of you who are Catholic and dissident right and against mass immigration into the US?

Post: #24

(09-14-2019 05:51 PM)bucky Wrote:  This might be a topic for another thread, but how do those of you who are American nationalists and Catholic square your beliefs with the current state of your church in the US? I'm referring specifically to how the RCC pushes for open borders and mass immigration from Latin America. I attend mass with my Latina devout Catholic wife and even when it's the rare English mass (there are more in Spanish in our area now) no more than about 20% of those in attendance were born in the US. Last Memorial Day we sang "America the Beautiful" as the last hymn. The Asian couple behind us laughed audibly and stood up and left, as did most of the congregation who, again, were mostly foreigners.

At my wife's community celebrations of the Eucharist they go through to motions of having it mostly in English, but we could just switch into Spanish and almost everyone would be more comfortable. I imagine we will eventually switch into Spanish with interpreters for the few, aging heritage Americans who still show up. We get Mexican priests preaching about the need for "immigration reform" and I don't think they're talking about Trump's wall. On a larger scale, there are the current pope's statement about not building walls.

Is any of this a concern to those of you who are Catholic and dissident right and against mass immigration into the US?

I have spoken with white Catholic priests on their stance on Immigration and Nationalism.

The answer is that they care only about the faith. They do not care if a country survives or a race survives as long as faith survives. They do not care if it's Whites or Latinos or Asians or Blacks who continue to carry on the Church, as long as the Church survives.

This is not something a priest will tell you in a sermon. This is however the answer you can get in a private conversation if you have some trust established and can read behind vaguely obscured lines.

I believe they are not understanding what they are doing by thinking like this. I believe in each ethos has cognitive differences and each nation is prone to make their own changes in the faith once adopted. Arabic (Sunni) Islam is not like Persian (Shiite) Islam. Latino Catholicism will not be like White Catholicism. The leftist leanings of the first Latino Pope and the Santa Muerte cult that pollutes Latino Christianity is proof of that. But the Catholic Church is a Roman church and Rome is an empire. They do not care about the quality and purity of faith as much as with quantity and recognition. A Latino or Chinese believer, even if he mixes in his Azteck death cult or Confucian ethics or ancestor worship is as good as a white Catholic in 50th generation as long as he tithes and serves as instrument for further spread. The Catholic Church has played this game of absorbing pagan beliefs, giving saints functions of pagan gods, celebrating pagan festivities as Christian ones, to make hasty haphazard conversions from it's very infancy. They play the long term game and will wait for the differences to erode with time and changes of generation. Catholic Church is absolutely a globalist power.

A Jew does not think like a Greek. The Church has Jewish origins but since there were much more Greeks to convert it changed theology rapidly in early centuries until it became more Greek like with Logos and all that Greek stuff. It changed later even more to absorb the pagan Barbarians. It doesn't mind to change again if needed to absorb blacks or Chinese. It doesn't care for your nationality or for your country. They do not even care for individual souls and purity of individual beliefs. The survival of Church is what matters and it depends on numbers.

They are the Romans, the first empire of official history (Persians just barely poking under the rug). As Rome carried banners of Mars to conquer the world, the Romans of today continue the conquest under the Cross.

Post: #25

Church Crisis: Communist & Homosexual Infiltration & a Time for Purification ~ Fr Robert Altier



(My notes below of the 22 minute video for those that would rather read/video gets taken down)

"We have to make most of opportunity, because the days are evil" - St. Paul

Evil is called good and good is called evil. Evil things are not ok, but we have been brainwashed.

301 priests violated more than 1000 children in state of Pennsylvania.

It was covered up by Bishops, who had an agenda. In 2002, the Bishops say it's pedophilia.

But The John J. Institute was hired to investigate. They said it is a homosexual problem.

86.6% of sexual assaults were on post-pubescent males. Less than 3% were pedophilia - so it was pederasty, not pedophilia.

Some good people struggle with homosexual orientation - it itself is not evil - the activity is evil.

Putting homosexuals in seminary is putting them in a direction position of temptation. It is intentional and malicious, designed to destroy church from within.

The seminary in early-mid 80's was the worst. If you were not a homosexual/radical feminist, you were in big trouble.

One professor said, "Martin Luther had right idea but he did it the wrong way: He left the church".

A group of predatory homosexuals in 1924 started infiltration.

Bella Dodd, who wrote the book School of Darkness, testified before Congress in 1953 and said they got instructions from the Kremlin 1929.

Their strategy was to take the best and the brightest - good looking sociable guys who got promoted to become bishops and vocation directors.

William Foster ran for US President in 1924, 1928, and 1932 for Communist Party USA, “Toward Soviet America".

"We aren’t able to get to the Americans because of three things: their morality, their family, and their patriotism”

"Through homosexuality and radical feminism we will attack them". They were extraordinarily successful.

Predatory homosexuals became priests, set out to destroy the church from within.

In this, they are at every level. An article came out from Catholic Registrar: 6 Newark priests diocese spoke about the homosexual network.

RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) laws are being talked about being used against the church at federal level.

So why don’t the good priests speak up?

Everyone has known for 40-50 years: would anyone have believed? And who would they have gone to?

If you wanted to be ordained, even as a priest, you couldn’t say a word.

They anonymously interviewed those Newark Priests out of fear.

These people have that much power.

“Lord to whom shall we go, you have the words of eternal life” The Church was founded for the salvation of souls.

Our Lady’s work has finally begun. She gave the bishops 16 years to clean up this mess, but they did nothing.

“We need more polices” is nonsense. We need action, not policies. Bishops are not trusted anymore.

Our faith is not in priests, bishops, cardinals or the pope, but in Jesus Christ.

We need to keep our focus on Him.

He, the founder, promised that the jaws of hell will not prevail against her. The Church appears to be destroyed.

But like telling a teenage to clean their room, the kid panics when the mother starts to go through the room with a garbage bag.

When it’s all done, the room will be immaculate. That is what is going to happen. Our Lady will clean house.

It will not be pleasant getting there. Are we going to remain faithful? The resurrection only happened after the crucifixion.

Purification begins in the House of God. What happens when it falls outside the church: all going down.

It starts in the Church.

St. John Paul says, it's, "A new springtime".

Our Lady of Fatima: The triumph of her immaculate heart, and after that triumph of a long period of peace and unprecedented growth for the church.

We need to remain in prayer and fasting. With this kind of demon, only those actions work to get rid of it. Hard times, but we have the resurrection.

It's a new springtime and a triumph of the immaculate heart.

Remain faithful to Jesus. St. Louis de Montford: "God is going to raise up greatest saints. They will tower over saints of the past, the way the cedar of Lebanon towers over a shrub".

Like what St. Paul said in the gospel: "This is making the best out of the situation. The times are evil, so make the best out of your opportunity to remain faithful to Jesus all the way to the crucifixion and become a great saint."

For further reading:

The Homo-Sexual Network, 1982 book by Enrique Rueda.

Communist Infiltration, 1929 book by John Vennari.