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In the west, according to my obsevations, there are only two reliable ways to get laid now: (assuming you don't have model good looks)

-Social circles
-Targeting tourist chicks

Online game is doable but it's anything but reliable.

Game is only really helpful insofar as it helps you in either of those situation. I've very rarely seen cold approaching strangers work, from both night or day game.

Then there's the obvious solution of going abroad, which works for everyone but suffer from the same problem. The more people go abroad for bang, the harder it will get for everyone. Might as well get in early on the wagon.

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(04-28-2019 12:37 PM)SW15 Wrote:  
(04-06-2019 02:07 PM)Delta Wrote:  This isn't at all surprising. I've noticed, anecdotally, that young women's minds have been absolutely poisoned when it comes to men, dating, and relationships. And while it's easy to point the finger at feminism, the syndrome I'm describing affects literally all single young women I've ever encountered, feminist or anti-feminist, cunt or good human being. I've never once come across a counterexample. Correct me if you've seen any exceptions, but in my experience, all single women below age 35 share these three traits:

1. Utter lack of desire or urgency to be with a man. I have a habit of, every now and then, social media stalking my exes, girls I'd dated briefly, and girls I'd gone out with once or twice and was interested in, to see what they're up to. Yeah yeah yeah it's not healthy or whatever, sue me. Anyway, what I find the vast majority of the time is that months or even years after my time with the girl is up, there's no sign of a man anywhere on her social media. It's funny because we tend to project our habits onto women and assume we get rejected because another guy came along that she liked better. But the reality is, usually you're not losing out to another guy, you're losing out to... no one. Her 'better deal' isn't a more attractive man, it's singledom. I know a girl in her 20's who literally has never been with a man in her entire life. She's cute and pleasant. But her attitude about men is more or less "meh, I'm happy as is." Can you imagine a desirable man choosing to forego pussy his entire life because it's just not important to him?

Do you ever hear a woman verbally express urgency about finding a man? On the other hand, how often do you hear late 20's women, past their peak and on the precipice of their looks fading, talk about how much they want to live abroad for a couple years or something equally antithetical to settling down with a man?

Aside from anecdotes: We all know Tinder has absurd M:F ratios, but did you know that the relationship oriented dating sites are not much better? It's not just that men try harder to get sex; men this day in age are also trying much harder to find love.

2. Extreme, unreasonable pickiness. I won't get into hypergamy because it's already so heavily discussed, but there's also another dimension to women's pickiness: demanding an exact image match. If you meet girls on swiping apps, ask them about their experience, and I guarantee they'll happily admit that they snap reject 99% of the guys on there. And how often do you hear girls express ridiculous, totally unnecessary requirements for any guy they'd consider? (e.g. Must be a dog person, must be a cat person, must be a feminist, must be a conservative, must be a Christian, must be an atheist, must be older than me, must not be more than a couple years older than me, must be at least 6' tall, must love trying ethnic foods... the list could go on forever.)

3. Extreme hostility toward, and over-criticalness of men who are interested in them. Pro-tip: If you're ever chatting with a girl and struggling to find a topic she's interested in, change the subject to "weirdos" who try to get with her. Without fail, her passions will suddenly be awoken as she giddily disparages the "nice" but "weird" guys in her social circle who are trying to get in her pants, along with the "creeps" who open her on the street, try to dance with her at the bar, and message her on dating apps. Often she'll criticize a half-decent opener some guy used on her as though it was criminally bad, even though you and her both know she wouldn't do any better if she was tasked with starting conversations with the opposite sex. I don't think I've ever met a girl who didn't believe that the men who wanted her were all losers who were way beneath her.

These three go hand-in-hand. 2 and 3 are the result of 1. The conclusion is inescapable, and I'm far from the first person on here to state it: The safety, security, and prosperity of modern western society has all but eliminated women's need for a man.

I can confirm that I have observed all three of these factors at play in my approaching. It is really terrible.

Women's desire to "be with a man" is entirely, 100% based on her fear of starvation or being hurt by violence (war, looting, etc). If you give any woman, no matter who she is, a guaranteed income and guaranteed safety, she will instantly lose her desire for men. It's biochemical.

So what do we have in the modern world? Women who have more or less guaranteed safety and food. THus, the collapse of desire.

Unfortunately, men have an opposite genetic disposition: the less desire they feel from women, they either become more violent and warlike, or the become very passive. Even a very small percentage of men becoming warlike will tip your society into war, without fail.

That's why I predict that we're headed for war...as human societies with gender conflict have always, for hundreds of thousands of years, gone to war. Not because war is needed or caused by outside factors, but simply because society has an itch to scratch.
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(05-05-2019 06:08 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  Not because war is needed or caused by outside factors, but simply because society has an itch to scratch.

This...

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(05-05-2019 06:08 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  
(04-28-2019 12:37 PM)SW15 Wrote:  
(04-06-2019 02:07 PM)Delta Wrote:  This isn't at all surprising. I've noticed, anecdotally, that young women's minds have been absolutely poisoned when it comes to men, dating, and relationships. And while it's easy to point the finger at feminism, the syndrome I'm describing affects literally all single young women I've ever encountered, feminist or anti-feminist, cunt or good human being. I've never once come across a counterexample. Correct me if you've seen any exceptions, but in my experience, all single women below age 35 share these three traits:

1. Utter lack of desire or urgency to be with a man. I have a habit of, every now and then, social media stalking my exes, girls I'd dated briefly, and girls I'd gone out with once or twice and was interested in, to see what they're up to. Yeah yeah yeah it's not healthy or whatever, sue me. Anyway, what I find the vast majority of the time is that months or even years after my time with the girl is up, there's no sign of a man anywhere on her social media. It's funny because we tend to project our habits onto women and assume we get rejected because another guy came along that she liked better. But the reality is, usually you're not losing out to another guy, you're losing out to... no one. Her 'better deal' isn't a more attractive man, it's singledom. I know a girl in her 20's who literally has never been with a man in her entire life. She's cute and pleasant. But her attitude about men is more or less "meh, I'm happy as is." Can you imagine a desirable man choosing to forego pussy his entire life because it's just not important to him?

Do you ever hear a woman verbally express urgency about finding a man? On the other hand, how often do you hear late 20's women, past their peak and on the precipice of their looks fading, talk about how much they want to live abroad for a couple years or something equally antithetical to settling down with a man?

Aside from anecdotes: We all know Tinder has absurd M:F ratios, but did you know that the relationship oriented dating sites are not much better? It's not just that men try harder to get sex; men this day in age are also trying much harder to find love.

2. Extreme, unreasonable pickiness. I won't get into hypergamy because it's already so heavily discussed, but there's also another dimension to women's pickiness: demanding an exact image match. If you meet girls on swiping apps, ask them about their experience, and I guarantee they'll happily admit that they snap reject 99% of the guys on there. And how often do you hear girls express ridiculous, totally unnecessary requirements for any guy they'd consider? (e.g. Must be a dog person, must be a cat person, must be a feminist, must be a conservative, must be a Christian, must be an atheist, must be older than me, must not be more than a couple years older than me, must be at least 6' tall, must love trying ethnic foods... the list could go on forever.)

3. Extreme hostility toward, and over-criticalness of men who are interested in them. Pro-tip: If you're ever chatting with a girl and struggling to find a topic she's interested in, change the subject to "weirdos" who try to get with her. Without fail, her passions will suddenly be awoken as she giddily disparages the "nice" but "weird" guys in her social circle who are trying to get in her pants, along with the "creeps" who open her on the street, try to dance with her at the bar, and message her on dating apps. Often she'll criticize a half-decent opener some guy used on her as though it was criminally bad, even though you and her both know she wouldn't do any better if she was tasked with starting conversations with the opposite sex. I don't think I've ever met a girl who didn't believe that the men who wanted her were all losers who were way beneath her.

These three go hand-in-hand. 2 and 3 are the result of 1. The conclusion is inescapable, and I'm far from the first person on here to state it: The safety, security, and prosperity of modern western society has all but eliminated women's need for a man.

I can confirm that I have observed all three of these factors at play in my approaching. It is really terrible.

Women's desire to "be with a man" is entirely, 100% based on her fear of starvation or being hurt by violence (war, looting, etc). If you give any woman, no matter who she is, a guaranteed income and guaranteed safety, she will instantly lose her desire for men. It's biochemical.

So what do we have in the modern world? Women who have more or less guaranteed safety and food. THus, the collapse of desire.

Unfortunately, men have an opposite genetic disposition: the less desire they feel from women, they either become more violent and warlike, or the become very passive. Even a very small percentage of men becoming warlike will tip your society into war, without fail.

That's why I predict that we're headed for war...as human societies with gender conflict have always, for hundreds of thousands of years, gone to war. Not because war is needed or caused by outside factors, but simply because society has an itch to scratch.

I have to disagree. Passive men will not fight. I see an economic stagnation in the future. The middle-class family, and with it, the middle class, is dead. Low purchasing power combined with low fertility is the cause.
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(05-05-2019 04:37 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  In the west, according to my obsevations, there are only two reliable ways to get laid now: (assuming you don't have model good looks)

-Social circles
-Targeting tourist chicks

Online game is doable but it's anything but reliable.

Game is only really helpful insofar as it helps you in either of those situation. I've very rarely seen cold approaching strangers work, from both night or day game.

Then there's the obvious solution of going abroad, which works for everyone but suffer from the same problem. The more people go abroad for bang, the harder it will get for everyone. Might as well get in early on the wagon.

I agree. But I would add a 3rd category that is especially open to cold
approach:

-Ukrainian guest workers (often working illegally on tourist visas) in EU countries. They are often quite easy due to limited social circles and economic vulnerability
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Delta just confirmed or at least supported a view I have had for a while.

You aren't meant to be friends with women. Marriages or couple hood doesn't mean I have to be interested in everything the girl does. Biologically, if we are meant to breed with a girl to start a family to carry on both our genes, does that mean we have to also mesh mentally? I think not. I keep going back toward the Married with children sitcom with Al Bundy in my mind and I don't know why. I was a child when it came on now and again, along with other sitcoms. This was the one that keeps showing up in my mind when I hear people talk about marriages and the dynamics of men and women. This may be a hint to the dilemma.

We have women that won't talk to men like human beings. We have women that have everything provided to them by the state. This also means that they support government more than men and will be more willing to turn us all into government slaves. Naturally, those above love feminism since it moves us more toward becoming simple minded servants, but we already have a thread resulted to why that is the case. And men are continuously looking for that mate, but are being rejected. Not because they're ugly. And not cause they are the worst guy on earth. It's literally cause the western women are turning into something else. The harem of feminism and the state. They are taken. Not by another man. But by good ole hand rubbing Sam. Divorces are in their favor. The law is in their favor. Social circumstances are in their favor. The women have the whole world. Twitch streamers are making bucks off just revealing a little. Chaturbate, etc, the income of a woman is vast and drenched by other orbiters and lawmakers.

We men build societies and maintain it, but currently, the world says we are meant to just be horny drolls that aren't worth a woman's attention. Isn't it funny that when war happens, the barbarians go after the women and children first? How come it's the barbarians that are the first to act? Do we really need violence to solve our female issues everytime? Why don't we act before the barbarians do? It would be less hectic and you can save the civilization you are about to lose. If you want your western women back, you will have to metaphorically pimp slap them, aka go after everything enabling their behavior. Make them women again.
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Quote:Women's desire to "be with a man" is entirely, 100% based on her fear of starvation or being hurt by violence (war, looting, etc). If you give any woman, no matter who she is, a guaranteed income and guaranteed safety, she will instantly lose her desire for men. It's biochemical

What research and or publications do you have to support this theory? That women only desire men for money/protection?

This truly is starting to read like an MGTOW forum.



The reality is that yes, flaunting your money and your muscles isn’t really a reliable indicator of your ability to acquire a mate. You have to bring more to the table.
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I have been actually been thinking about this topic and was wondering how the data would be different if it was divided on gender. I feel like women now are having more sex than ever before due to online apps. I also feel like if we divided it by gender and put men into different groups it would basically the top 10 percent doing all the sexual activity.
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Young women having less sex after the rise of Tinder/Bumble makes zero sense. This data is flat out wrong. The sole reason women go on those stupid apps is to hookup with a guy. Just because they don't admin it doesn't mean it's not happening. Same reason why they put "Not here for hookups" and then do exactly the opposite.

It's all bullsh*t.
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People having less sex than other meanwhile news of increased outbreaks of syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia. Interesting
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(05-05-2019 04:37 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  In the west, according to my obsevations, there are only two reliable ways to get laid now: (assuming you don't have model good looks)

-Social circles
-Targeting tourist chicks

Online game is doable but it's anything but reliable.

Game is only really helpful insofar as it helps you in either of those situation. I've very rarely seen cold approaching strangers work, from both night or day game.

Then there's the obvious solution of going abroad, which works for everyone but suffer from the same problem. The more people go abroad for bang, the harder it will get for everyone. Might as well get in early on the wagon.

Agree 100% with what you said. I just dont know if this is now or since more than 20/30 years.

Anyway, I see a lot of my friends going for girls some points bellow them and already marrying them or making sure the dating doesnt stop because its really hard to find a average girl nowadays.
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(10-07-2019 12:57 PM)Salinger Wrote:  [Image: $]

Young women having less sex after the rise of Tinder/Bumble makes zero sense. This data is flat out wrong. The sole reason women go on those stupid apps is to hookup with a guy. Just because they don't admin it doesn't mean it's not happening. Same reason why they put "Not here for hookups" and then do exactly the opposite.

It's all bullsh*t.
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People having less sex than other meanwhile news of increased outbreaks of syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia. Interesting
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(10-09-2019 02:36 PM)void Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 12:57 PM)Salinger Wrote:  [Image: $]

Young women having less sex after the rise of Tinder/Bumble makes zero sense. This data is flat out wrong. The sole reason women go on those stupid apps is to hookup with a guy. Just because they don't admin it doesn't mean it's not happening. Same reason why they put "Not here for hookups" and then do exactly the opposite.

It's all bullsh*t.
27% of are 1 year sexless and only 17% of women

This is assuming they're even telling the truth.

Many guys probably lied about being sexless so it's higher than 27%, probably ~35%

Manys girls probably lied too and wanted to appear less promiscuous, so it's probably ~10-12% who didn't have sex instead of 17%.
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(10-07-2019 12:57 PM)Salinger Wrote:  [Image: $]

Young women having less sex after the rise of Tinder/Bumble makes zero sense. This data is flat out wrong. The sole reason women go on those stupid apps is to hookup with a guy. Just because they don't admin it doesn't mean it's not happening. Same reason why they put "Not here for hookups" and then do exactly the opposite.

It's all bullsh*t.

I don't entirely know about that. Yes, girls do the opposite and their words do not match with their actions quite often.

However, girls have sex because they want some validation/attention.
Dating apps solve that problem without giving their body away.
Why would these girls have sex and increase notch count when their problem is already solved?

It makes sense to me. Girls are having less sex. Guys are having less sex. People are just not dating like they used to anymore.
I read a statistics recently that 50% of adults are single. I mean that's the norm now.

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(10-09-2019 03:07 PM)BlastbeatCasanova Wrote:  People having less sex than other meanwhile news of increased outbreaks of syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia. Interesting

definitely, the STD outbreak is mostly in women (surprise, all banging the same tinder chads) and secondarily gays. So it seems to follow the data.

If that STD study broke down the STD rates among straight men, I bet it would be declining

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If the study also broke down bisexuals' (the ones who transfer the most diseases between the gay & straight worlds) STD rate this would explain increased outbreaks as well.

I doubt it. Remember that your lower level, millenial leftist isn't good at critical thinking. They're largely like trained dogs who emote in response to programmed cues like the word "racism" and "socialism". Easy_C

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(10-09-2019 05:09 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  definitely, the STD outbreak is mostly in women (surprise, all banging the same tinder chads) and secondarily gays. So it seems to follow the data.

If that STD study broke down the STD rates among straight men, I bet it would be declining

Bingo. Turbo Chad can abuse dating apps and bang a new girl every week for basically zero effort. Once Turbo Chad gets a good-sized harem going he might be sleeping with anywhere between 10-20 different girls in a 30 day period. So if he picks up the clap from one of them he can easily spread it to the rest. This is how an overall decline in the number of men having sex occurs at the same time STD rates are exploding: women are more prone to getting STDs anyway for biological reasons, and they're obviously more prone to getting STDs if they're all banging the same small pool of Turbo Chads. The STD epidemic is just more irrefutable evidence that dating apps are destroying the sexual marketplace by empowering women to have secretive, no-strings-attached sex with men outside their normal SMV range. They can't resist the tingle, but ultimately they're left with nothing but squandered time, damaged emotional capacity to pair bond and (increasingly) a sexually transmitted infection. And the men they would normally be pairing up with are forced to either substantially date down or become incel.

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(10-09-2019 06:13 PM)scorpion Wrote:  
(10-09-2019 05:09 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  definitely, the STD outbreak is mostly in women (surprise, all banging the same tinder chads) and secondarily gays. So it seems to follow the data.

If that STD study broke down the STD rates among straight men, I bet it would be declining

Bingo. Turbo Chad can abuse dating apps and bang a new girl every week for basically zero effort. Once Turbo Chad gets a good-sized harem going he might be sleeping with anywhere between 10-20 different girls in a 30 day period. So if he picks up the clap from one of them he can easily spread it to the rest. This is how an overall decline in the number of men having sex occurs at the same time STD rates are exploding: women are more prone to getting STDs anyway for biological reasons, and they're obviously more prone to getting STDs if they're all banging the same small pool of Turbo Chads. The STD epidemic is just more irrefutable evidence that dating apps are destroying the sexual marketplace by empowering women to have secretive, no-strings-attached sex with men outside their normal SMV range. They can't resist the tingle, but ultimately they're left with nothing but squandered time, damaged emotional capacity to pair bond and (increasingly) a sexually transmitted infection. And the men they would normally be pairing up with are forced to either substantially date down or become incel.

Don't forget that Turbo Chad and girls have greater incident of being sterile after repeated infections of STDs, more specifically Chlamydia. So the cream of the crop is also being eliminate from the gene pool as he or she can't sire the next generation due to constant STDs.
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(10-09-2019 07:22 PM)Thersites Wrote:  
(10-09-2019 06:13 PM)scorpion Wrote:  
(10-09-2019 05:09 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  definitely, the STD outbreak is mostly in women (surprise, all banging the same tinder chads) and secondarily gays. So it seems to follow the data.

If that STD study broke down the STD rates among straight men, I bet it would be declining

Bingo. Turbo Chad can abuse dating apps and bang a new girl every week for basically zero effort. Once Turbo Chad gets a good-sized harem going he might be sleeping with anywhere between 10-20 different girls in a 30 day period. So if he picks up the clap from one of them he can easily spread it to the rest. This is how an overall decline in the number of men having sex occurs at the same time STD rates are exploding: women are more prone to getting STDs anyway for biological reasons, and they're obviously more prone to getting STDs if they're all banging the same small pool of Turbo Chads. The STD epidemic is just more irrefutable evidence that dating apps are destroying the sexual marketplace by empowering women to have secretive, no-strings-attached sex with men outside their normal SMV range. They can't resist the tingle, but ultimately they're left with nothing but squandered time, damaged emotional capacity to pair bond and (increasingly) a sexually transmitted infection. And the men they would normally be pairing up with are forced to either substantially date down or become incel.

Don't forget that Turbo Chad and girls have greater incident of being sterile after repeated infections of STDs, more specifically Chlamydia. So the cream of the crop is also being eliminate from the gene pool as he or she can't sire the next generation due to constant STDs.

It is as if some evil (((plan))) is behind all this...
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^ I see this as being natures way of dealing with sluts. (((they))) are not the ones who physically put chads ding dong in their hand. Do not take away the lack of responsibility of women from all of this.
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(10-09-2019 06:13 PM)scorpion Wrote:  the men they would normally be pairing up with are forced to either substantially date down or become incel.

You wot mate?



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I'm a millenial, and women my age are so irritating, used up, dirty and risky to be around, that going through all the bullshit to fuck them is becoming less and less appealing. I'm not going to prioritize banging sluts like I did when I was younger and less experienced in life. There are much more rewarding things to do. This is also one of those things where quality is much more important than quantity.

It's also funny how the less attention you give women, the more they want you. It's like they can sense your freedom and happiness. Unfortunately most modern women will ruin that happiness.
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^That seems to be the general consensus around here, doesn't it.

I haven't been with a woman since July 2018. One of my good friends is worried that I've 'given up on love' because I won't swipe anymore. What do you even say to 'given up on love'? The answers I've attempted include:
I don't want to waste time and money on another broken whore.
I'm having a hard time finding anyone suitable.
I'm never fucking a fat girl again.

The swipe leagues require unconscionable compromise, a fat one, a dumb one, and old one, I'm sick of it. Nightclubs are not much better.
It's hard out there, my lack of success bothers me a little. I'd like to think I'm a good looking guy but I don't have the face for swipe apps, my results on those things have made that fact very clear.
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(05-05-2019 04:37 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  In the west, according to my obsevations, there are only two reliable ways to get laid now: (assuming you don't have model good looks)

-Social circles
-Targeting tourist chicks

Online game is doable but it's anything but reliable.

Game is only really helpful insofar as it helps you in either of those situation. I've very rarely seen cold approaching strangers work, from both night or day game.

Then there's the obvious solution of going abroad, which works for everyone but suffer from the same problem. The more people go abroad for bang, the harder it will get for everyone. Might as well get in early on the wagon.

I guess now that this is a religion forum and not a 'game' forum people needn't need to worry about 'game denialism' lol (not that your post is that but it's borderline!)

I've noticed that 'faith in game' has been on a steady decline for a good few years now (even in the pua forums that I visited including this forum)
What's the deal? Were we being fed a lie with the 'looks don't matter thing' all along?
Did game ever really exist, or was it just the result of approaching a hell of a lot of girls and stumbling across the 'yes girls'?
Maybe it DID used to 'work'(?), but times really have changed more than people realise and now being 'good looking', at least in her opinion, is a pre-requisite?
(people always talk about how 'human nature doesn't change over the course of 15 years! Mystery-method still will get you any girl you want, no matter your age and looks, if you apply it correctly!!'' but we're not talking about 'human nature'. More huge cultural changes that effect everything behavioural)

Anyway, i've noticed the same as you in terms of where the best odds seem to be

Hell, even 'pro London day gamers' only seem to be able to get laid with adventurous young tourists from US/Hungary etc, in London for the week, looking for fun!! I wonder how many brutal rejections they delete from their footage from local girls? Is it 'skill'? Or is it just numbers game?

And yes, as you say, the other one is social circle. There certainly are average looking guys out there with average lives, dating hot girls - but if you ask how they met, it's always social circle. If he'd have approached her in a bar, no matter how good his 'game', you get the feeling he'd get stone walled! propinquity is underrated!

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