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How Christianity turned healthy barbarians into fearful abortions
The ‘Improvers’ of Mankind

1 One knows my demand of philosophers that they place themselves beyond good and evil – that they have the illusion of moral judgement beneath them. This demand follows from an insight first formulated by me: that there are no moral facts whatever. Moral judgement has this in common with religious judgement that it believes in realities which do not exist. Morality is only an interpretation of certain phenomena, more precisely a misinterpretation. Moral judgement belongs, as does religious judgement, to a level of ignorance at which even the concept of the real, the distinction between the real and the imaginary, is lacking: so that at such a level ‘truth’ denotes nothing but things which we today call ‘imaginings’. To this extent moral judgement is never to be taken literally: as such it never contains anything but nonsense. But as semeiotics it remains of incalculable value: it reveals, to the informed man at least, the most precious realities of cultures and inner worlds which did not know enough to ‘understand’ themselves. Morality is merely sign-language, merely symptomatology: one must already know what it is about to derive profit from it.

2 A first example, merely as an introduction. In all ages one has wanted to ‘improve’ men: this above all is what morality has meant. But one word can conceal the most divergent tendencies. Both the taming of the beast man and the breeding of a certain species of man has been called ‘improvement’: only these zoological termini express realities – realities, to be sure, of which the typical ‘improver’, the priest, knows nothing – wants to know nothing.... To call the taming of an animal its ‘improvement’ is in our ears almost a joke. Whoever knows what goes on in menageries is doubtful whether the beasts in them are ‘improved’. They are weakened, they are made less harmful, they become sickly beasts through the depressive emotion of fear, through pain, through injuries, through hunger. – It is no different with the tamed human being whom the priest has ‘improved’. In the early Middle Ages, when the Church was in fact above all a menagerie, one everywhere hunted down the fairest specimens of the ‘blond beast’* – one ‘improved’, for example, the noble Teutons. But what did such a Teuton afterwards look like when he had been ‘improved’ and led into a monastery? Like a caricature of a human being, like an abortion: he had become a ‘sinner’, he was in a cage, one had imprisoned him behind nothing but sheer terrifying concepts.... There he lay now, sick, miserable, filled with ill-will towards himself; full of hatred for the impulses towards life, full of suspicion of all that was still strong and happy. In short, a ‘Christian’.... In physiological terms: in the struggle with the beast, making it sick can be the only means of making it weak. This the Church understood: it corrupted the human being, it weakened him – but it claimed to have ‘improved’ him...

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Are you going to copypaste the entirety of Friedrich Nietzsche's works, bro? Maybe if you hold it down to one thread instead of seven or eight.

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You are utterly incapable of reading comprehension and replying to a subject, right?

Are you female?
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The over / under on number posts in this thread before OP is banned is 10... Im taking the under

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How many of these edgy nihilists would survive a week in the primitive non-society they claim to prefer?

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Banning him won't solve anything.

If there's no morality, then there's no right or wrong, which means everything is flux and all there is, is the will to power. Which means there's no ground to condemn Christianity, since it's one belief among many. You're making a moral judgement in the thread title which you cannot logically cohere to with your supposed beliefs.

What exactly is your problem with Christianity?
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(02-07-2020 07:29 PM)Aboulia Wrote:  Banning him won't solve anything.

If there's no morality, then there's no right or wrong, which means everything is flux and all there is, is the will to power. Which means there's no ground to condemn Christianity, since it's one belief among many. You're making a moral judgement in the thread title which you cannot logically cohere to with your supposed beliefs.

What exactly is your problem with Christianity?

It's mainly because, like Nietzsche, he doesn't understand it.

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(02-07-2020 07:29 PM)Aboulia Wrote:  Banning him won't solve anything.

If there's no morality, then there's no right or wrong, which means everything is flux and all there is, is the will to power. Which means there's no ground to condemn Christianity, since it's one belief among many. You're making a moral judgement in the thread title which you cannot logically cohere to with your supposed beliefs.

All beliefs are valid. But that doesn't mean they are equal. You are making the classic leftist mistake.


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230. "Everything is subjective" means that everything can be perceived from a variety of perspectives — indeed an infinity of them — it doesn't mean that all perspectives are equal. From the plurality of subjects it by no means follows that all subjects are equal! But that is precisely what the subhumans contend. With a terrifying consistency they take the idea from the philosophers and utterly pervert it, until it comes to mean the exact opposite to what it meant at first. For if all viewpoints were indeed equal they would have to be identical! i.e. there would not be an infinity of viewpoints but only a single one! i.e. there would not be subjectivity! Subhumans: Standing Every Human Idea On Its Head Since The Invention Of Speech.

206. Mistakes of the subhumans. They immediately interpret the idea of subjectivity as giving them free reign to support any viewpoint that they want, no matter how incoherent, ignorant and wretched. Sure, the ant too has its own perspective of things, and therefore its own subjective reality, but who gives a shit about the reality of an ant? The greater the man the greater — and hence the more objective — his perspective, and therefore the idea of subjectivity does not undermine the absolute rule of inequality in the universe but is precisely the mechanism by which it comes about.


(02-07-2020 07:29 PM)Aboulia Wrote:  What exactly is your problem with Christianity?

They think the earth is flat and persecute scientists who say otherwise, for starters.

In other words they are retarded faggots.
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What is your lean body mass?
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So everyone left on RVF is a brainless faggot who can't even engage with any remotely intellectual issue at all?

And no, "the Jews did it" is not intellectual engagement, it is brainless faggotry.

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990. Jews are the scapegoats for all the deficiencies of low-IQ whites just as whites are the scapegoats for all the deficiencies of low-IQ non-whites. Let me explain how that works.

Why do we observe Jews at the forefront of many cutting-edge industries? (for example the media/arts and financial industries are indeed rife with them). The low-IQ answer is, of course, a simplistic conspiracy theory: Jews form an evil cabal that created all these industries from scratch to "destroy culture" (or at least what low-IQ people think is culture, i.e. some previous, obsolete state of culture, i.e. older, lower culture, i.e. non-culture). And, to be sure, there is a lot of decadence in these industries. But, in an advanced civilization, there is a lot of decadence everywhere anyway! It's an essential prerequisite even! So it makes perfect sense that the most capable people in such a civilization will also be the most decadent! The stereotype of the degenerate cocaine-sniffing whoremonging or homosexual Hollywood or Wall Street operative belongs here. Well, buddy, if YOU were subjected to the stresses and temptations of the Hollywood or Wall Street lifestyles, maybe you'd be a "degenerate" too! But you lack the IQ for that, so of course you'll reduce the whole enterprise to a simplistic resentful fairy tale that seems laughable even to children: a bunch of old bearded Jews gathered round a large table planning the destruction of civilization! Well I say enough with this childish nonsense! The Jews are simply some of the smartest and most industrious people around, ergo it makes sense that they'll be encountered at or near all the peaks of the dominant culture, being overrepresented everywhere in it, including therefore in its failings and excesses! This is what it means to be the best! It doesn't mean that you are faultless little angels who can do no wrong, you brainless corn-fed nitwits! There's a moving passage somewhere in Nietzsche where he relates that Europe owes the Jews for the highest sage (Spinoza), and the highest saint (Jesus), and he'd never even heard of Freud or Einstein! In view of all the immeasurable gifts the Jewish spirit has lavished on humanity, anti-semitism in the coming world order will be a capital offense, if I have anything to say on the matter. The slightest word against the Jews, and you're a marked man: I would have not only you, but your entire extended family wiped out, just to be sure. You think you know what the Devil is, but he's just the lackey taking my orders. Entire cities razed to the ground (including the entire Middle East), simply because one person there said something bad about "the Jews", that's how I would have the future! Enough with this stupid meme! To hell with all of you brainless subhumans! You've wasted enough of our nervous energy on this stupid shit! And the same goes to low-IQ non-whites who blame all their troubles on whites! And it's all true: Jews and whites upped the stakes for everybody by bringing into the world a whole torrent of new possibilities which your IQ is too low to handle! So whatcha gonna do about it? Are you all bark, or are you prepared to bite? Come on, let's see what you can do! Any of you fucking pricks bark, and we'll execute every motherfucking last one of you!
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Some of us ARE Jewish, you nitwit.

And the IQ e-peen measuring contest isn’t necessarily one you want to engage in here. Some of us also are triple 9 club members.

And some of us also have been subjected to the “temptations and stresses of a Wall Street lifestyle”...although based on that statement I think it’s patently clear you have no idea what a fund manager or investment banker actually DOES on a day to day basis. A good number of them are viceless people not because of any virtue on their part but because they spend so much time in the office they literally need every second of sleep they can get in order to remain functioning.
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Ban incoming....


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You fuckers just had to feed the troll and make it go over dincha?

Edit: I just saw the strikethrough....was before 11 ? ...aww Crap

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Maybe worth noting that Nietzsche was a syphilitic who went insane and died in an asylum.

Notice the self-contradictions in the original post. "Moral judgement has this in common with religious judgement that it believes in realities which do not exist." Then, here come the moral judgments: "In physiological terms: in the struggle with the beast, making it sick can be the only means of making it weak. This the Church understood: it corrupted the human being." Typical atheism: "Morality does not exist... well, except for all this stuff I'm assuming and positing."
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(02-07-2020 07:32 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  
(02-07-2020 07:29 PM)Aboulia Wrote:  Banning him won't solve anything.

If there's no morality, then there's no right or wrong, which means everything is flux and all there is, is the will to power. Which means there's no ground to condemn Christianity, since it's one belief among many. You're making a moral judgement in the thread title which you cannot logically cohere to with your supposed beliefs.

What exactly is your problem with Christianity?

It's mainly because, like Nietzsche, he doesn't understand it.


You too would understand it, if you were, like Nietzsche, in the throes of late stage syphilitic dementia...


On Nietzsche, syphillis, and his thoughts about Christianity
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Our friend here appears to have his own “bad philosophy” thread on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/badphilosophy/c...s_view_all

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And is also a convicted felon. But to his credit, at least the guy put his “no morals” philosophy into practice instead of just LARPing. So I suppose there’s something to be said for his dedication.

Let’s pray for him to receive mercy in this lifetime, before it’s too late and he has to answer for all those people he ripped off.

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This man reminds me of Varg Vikernes.
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(02-07-2020 07:58 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  You fuckers just had to feed the troll and make it go over dincha?

Edit: I just saw the strikethrough....was before 11 ? ...aww Crap

Usually when I respond to the trolls I am not doing so for the benefit of our trolls. They’re not even the intended audience because I know most likely they’re getting banned before they see it.

It’s for the lurkers and the “monitors” who are watching and may agree with the trolls initially.
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(02-07-2020 08:11 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  And is also a convicted felon. But to his credit, at least the guy put his “no morals” philosophy into practice instead of just LARPing. So I suppose there’s something to be said for his dedication.

Let’s pray for him to receive mercy in this lifetime, before it’s too late and he has to answer for all those people he ripped off.

Eh, I wouldn't say that, more than likely his obsession over will to power is just a self justification for his guilty conscience.
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(02-07-2020 08:11 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  And is also a convicted felon. But to his credit, at least the guy put his “no morals” philosophy into practice instead of just LARPing. So I suppose there’s something to be said for his dedication.

Let’s pray for him to receive mercy in this lifetime, before it’s too late and he has to answer for all those people he ripped off.

https://icycalmisacriminal.wordpress.com...-criminal/

Such a shame, he's got a handful of interesting observations, but the rest comes across as somebody in the throws of meth addiction.

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He(?) uses the term "abortions" as a derogatory insult but praises science and alternately barbarism both of which think nothing of aborting babies. Oh well, at least it shows that there are a few intellectual handholds left for his climb out of hell.

Aside why is it that when you get these angry posts screeching about how Christians are such cucked faggots that you have trouble believing the author could beat even Ned Flanders in a fist fight?

God demands of Man responsibility. God demands of Woman vulnerability. These are their curse and blessing alike. Libertianism is to Man as Feminism is to Woman.
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Because actual badasses and alphas don't need to claim or say they are. They just are.

And this kind of crowing about how Christians are "cucked" is usually just another form of alpha-signaling intended to communicate "I am more alpha than you simply on the basis of not being a Christian". It's a narcissistic delusion similar to how 102 IQ atheists think they're geniuses because they're four IQ points higher than that 98 IQ evangelical down the road.
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