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(02-13-2020 08:53 PM)Roosh Wrote:  <SNIP>

Pornhub actually verified her account:


While it's a complete travesty what happened and I agree that PornHub and sites like it should be held to a higher standard/be required to verify their content, what you posted is kinda nonsense.

They say right in the requirements that the verification is not of their age, just that they are the person uploading it. It's nothing like an age/eligibility to work requirement.

I wish the best for this girl/her mom and hope they are able to successfully sue them into the ground.

I seriously doubt pornhub and the other tube sites are a CIA creation. More likely the (((usual suspects))) which may be CIA inter-related but doubtful CIA directly.

Here's the verification information from the same lady's twitter:


If PornHub were smart they would do zero verification at all and just insta-lock accounts that get reported until they can prove they are legally operating. It's all a mess I imagine with all the different jurisdictions/laws.

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(02-14-2020 11:22 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  I'd like to add on to Roosh's CIA conspiracy theory. Lets say Pornhub, or something like it is a government asset. Here are the steps that would make it useful:
1. Let underage content slip through via insanely poor verification methods like they have right now
2. Track IP's and user accounts of who is using the site
3. Make the site free to a maximum amount of people use it

^ all of those already exist, now for the control part

4. Release to the press, in some sort of giant bust/operation that many of the people in popular videos on the site are underage, that the site is now being shut down and its records seized by the government.
5. When convenient, contact anyone who has used that website and let them know that the government now has it on record that they have been a consumer of child pornography. Threaten to press charges unless they cooperate with some other sham investigation.
6. Profit/imprison/enslave

Not likely you say? Back in the 80s when Traci Lords did nearly the same thing by using a fake ID to 'act' in adult films the producers etc. of the films she was in were arrested despite her being the one providing the forged identification.

I don't think people visiting a site that advertises itself as only having "legal" content can be held liable for that. Porn sites and producers (and websites in general) are obligated to remove or not produce illegal content, and therefore if they fail, and you are unwittingly exposed to it, I do not believe you can be held liable, as there was no criminal intent.

That is my understanding of it, anyways, and I could be totally wrong. But the only people I have ever heard of being arrested for underage pornography are those uploading/downloading massive quantities of it, or occasional cases of teens sexting each other.
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(02-14-2020 01:00 PM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  The globalists placate every biological drive to prevent men from doing what they historically would do if they were hungry/horny/oppressed, which is freak the f*ck out and start rioting (or worse).

The moment American men start to get seriously hungry (for food, real sexual stimulus, political representation, or anything else), watch out. Things will get very serious, very fast.

I agree with your post at large, but I think something very serious is brewing. Young men are not going to be sedated forever, because the sedatives are fundamentally unsatisfying even if they're addictive. The "day of the rope" people talk about isn't going to be an organized thing like people are hoping or fearing (depending what side of the equation you're on). It'll develop somewhat absurdly after more and more young men with nothing to live for just fucking snap. There's not going to be a manifesto or clear "sides", at least not in the beginning, it's not going to be racial or explicitly political or anything, it's just going to be a shitload of abused teenagers who decide to nope out of a scam society and get a little vengeance on their way out. I don't think this freight train can be stopped, society's momentum is too strong and you won't be able to sedate all of the kids who'd potentially snap and it only takes a fraction of a fraction of a percent of them to do something to create utter chaos.

Everyone needs to be prepared, because again it's not going to be that ideological. The fact that you're edgy on the internet and might've shitposted with a kid somewhere or other isn't going to save you, the kids are just going to go totally fucking nuts.

My plan, as always, is getting out into the countryside. That's my plan in general for life, even if society stays afloat I don't want to be part of it anymore, but also that'll be a place to thrive while the metropolises burn.
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(02-14-2020 11:22 AM)eradicator Wrote:  I don’t get it, but I’m not a lawyer. Pornhub is owned by mindgeek, or (((mindgeek))) if you like.

They are a Canadian company that own porn hub and youporn and other sites.

If a sex trafficking crime happens in Florida, USA and is uploaded onto the net to a site that a Canadian company owns, who exactly is in any sort of position to shut down a foreign company?

Who would file the charges, what would the crime be, and is there any legal precedent to shutting down a website?

I can think of Napster and whatnot, but this is a bit different as it involves user uploaded content, some of the performers are underage, and who exactly is going to police this?

And how is going on Twitter and tweeting “it needs to be shit down!” going to change anything. That is a bit line screaming out my window that a company in Canada should be shut down. Or that the internet should be shut down , who is going to shut down the internet

If USA is capable of censoring online gambling websites and banning any and all financial companies from processing gambling-related transactions for US users anywhere in the world, then why can't it do the same for porn?

One click and Pornhub et al becomes unavailable in the USA and cannot gain any revenue from US users. Problem solved.

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(02-14-2020 01:47 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  I seriously doubt pornhub and the other tube sites are a CIA creation. More likely the (((usual suspects))) which may be CIA inter-related but doubtful CIA directly.
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If PornHub were smart they would do zero verification at all and just insta-lock accounts that get reported until they can prove they are legally operating. It's all a mess I imagine with all the different jurisdictions/laws.

Another globohomo corporation for sure that nobody here would miss if they went down in flames.

Yes to all the above.

Unfortunately, the problem of pornography prevalence (especially teen girls who look 18, but are underage and making pornography) is probably only going to get much worse.

In a normal, healthy community, things like this are unlikely to be a problem, for a variety of reasons. The natural surveillance that occurs in a community, whether in a family, circles of friends, or a neighborhood, would likely alert people with a stake in a child's well being if they were kidnapped or undergoing abuse. In addition, children who are correctly socialized, especially in the context of a conservative religious background, would have some understanding about the relationship between sexual behavior and immorality. I.e., being a huge slut is immoral because it destabilizes families and communities, hurting the people that young women depend upon for their and their children's welfare.

The point is, healthy communities create natural obstacles between young women and degenerate behavior.

We have absolutely destroyed community in America, though, and the only real obstacle to ultimate degeneracy is the government.

Right now, the USA government has massive resources to prosecute and otherwise monitor (((degenerates))). As do many other governments around the world.

What if governments finally enter a debt crisis, and have to substantially scale back their law enforcement activities for funding reasons? Whatever restraints currently exist on all kinds of degeneracy will be removed almost entirely.

I hope we never have to see that day.
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(02-14-2020 10:59 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I sometimes wonder, if you woke up to find yourself Emperor-King of your country and decided to set a bar for cultural standards at "the 1950's", what percentage of the population would enter into open revolt against you?

This is a really ugly question that raises it's head when topics come up like banning pornography or even merely banning easy access to it.

I would like it if making new porn was being made illegal.
Enough was produced already that it would take several lifetimes to see it all - why make some more ? Just stop it.
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(02-14-2020 04:19 PM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  
(02-14-2020 10:59 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I sometimes wonder, if you woke up to find yourself Emperor-King of your country and decided to set a bar for cultural standards at "the 1950's", what percentage of the population would enter into open revolt against you?

This is a really ugly question that raises it's head when topics come up like banning pornography or even merely banning easy access to it.

I would like it if making new porn was being made illegal.
Enough was produced already that it would take several lifetimes to see it all - why make some more ? Just stop it.

A good compromise (something done already in Russia, iirc) is that you have to enter a credit card for ANY porn site, to verify that you are over 18.

This brings up the concept of "friction", which is incredibly useful in social engineering.

This past weekend I learned that in some Eastern European countries, women can keep their last name when married. But the government makes it a huge pain in the ass to do so, which reinforces the social norm of keeping their husbands last name. Friction can be incredibly useful that way.

By requiring a credit card to access porn, freedom of speech isn't infringed, but there is a significant layer of friction that stops children (and probably married men) from getting access.

There are probably other ways of adding "friction" to porn consumption, too. For example, mandate that ISP's offer web service where all adult sites are already blocked. Make legal requirements that sites register themselves according to level of degeneracy (simple nudes on one end, increasingly depraved stuff on the other), and have increasingly strict requirements to access each one. Raising the age requirement so that high school age girls can't legally perform is probably a good idea, as well.

The fact that any child with access to the internet can access the most vile stuff imaginable, and that nothing is done about it, is truly insane. The USA is definitely lost, hopefully parts of Eastern Europe remain civilized.
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(02-14-2020 02:43 PM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  What if governments finally enter a debt crisis, and have to substantially scale back their law enforcement activities for funding reasons? Whatever restraints currently exist on all kinds of degeneracy will be removed almost entirely.

I hope we never have to see that day.

Last I checked, the governments are only using these resources to issue speeding tickets. They won't even prosecute break and enters these days.

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(02-14-2020 04:36 PM)Aurini Wrote:  
(02-14-2020 02:43 PM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  What if governments finally enter a debt crisis, and have to substantially scale back their law enforcement activities for funding reasons? Whatever restraints currently exist on all kinds of degeneracy will be removed almost entirely.

I hope we never have to see that day.

Last I checked, the governments are only using these resources to issue speeding tickets. They won't even prosecute break and enters these days.

You must live in a blue state.

In all seriousness, law and order in the USA is rapidly crumbling on all levels. There is no political consensus, no common interest, just increasingly vicious disparate groups grabbing anything not nailed to the floor. Underage girls on porn sites is the tip of the iceberg.

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(02-13-2020 11:38 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  
(02-13-2020 09:13 PM)Rush87 Wrote:  
"A 15-year-old girl who was missing for a year has been reunited with her mother after she spotted videos of her being sexually abused on Pornhub".

The mother was looking at porn? Wait... The mother was looking at so much porn that she found her daughter amongst the millions of porn videos online. Hold on... Her daughters missing for a year and she's watching porn. Odd.

If your 15 year old daughter goes missing for this amount of time, scouring porn should be a part of the search.

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(02-13-2020 11:38 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  
(02-13-2020 09:13 PM)Rush87 Wrote:  
"A 15-year-old girl who was missing for a year has been reunited with her mother after she spotted videos of her being sexually abused on Pornhub".

The mother was looking at porn? Wait... The mother was looking at so much porn that she found her daughter amongst the millions of porn videos online. Hold on... Her daughters missing for a year and she's watching porn. Odd.

If your 15 year old daughter goes missing for this amount of time, scouring porn should be a part of the search.

It's also possible a stranger saw the video, recognized the girl from news coverage, and was able to get in contact with the mother or family.

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(02-14-2020 02:43 PM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  ...
What if governments finally enter a debt crisis, and have to substantially scale back their law enforcement activities for funding reasons? Whatever restraints currently exist on all kinds of degeneracy will be removed almost entirely.

I hope we never have to see that day.

You may be thinking about this the wrong way.

The reality is that the only thing protecting the degenerates is the government. We talk about "law and order" but that's a trite concept when your government is Lawful-Evil rather than Lawful-Good in order to put it in a blunt albeit nerdy way.

You honestly couldn't organise this scale of evil without government being a protector and provider for it rather than a bulwark against it.

It's become a cliche, parents being robbed of justice when their kids are raped and/or murdered. Rapists and killers given light sentences or suspended sentences or simply not being prosecuted at all if they're "important" enough. And who protects the rapists and the killers? Who prevents you from "taking matters into your own hands"?

The government.

The red-pill on this issue is not that the Government can't go after pornhub. As if it somehow lacks the power or the resources to do so. The reality is that for whatever reason, our governments are on Pornhub's side, not the side of the children being abused or the parents seeking justice. When you accept that then you accept that the entire system is the problem, not some kind of benevolent but impotent force for good. You are better off burning it all down and starting over if justice is what matters to you. The last 10 years being capped off with Epstein's fake suicide has made that abundantly clear.

Let me put this another way. If you, a peasant, started up a cam service and employed a 15 year old girl then regardless of whether you claimed "she told me she was 18, and even showed me a (fake) ID" then you, peasant, are still going to jail for a very, VERY long time.

In fact you, peasant, don't even need to distribute that porn. You can be prosecuted for having watched the videos of that 15 year old on Pornhub, even as pornhub skates entirely for acquiring that content and providing it to you. If the police found a copy of that video on your computer then you are going to be charged with posession of child porn, but nobody at Pornhub is going to get so much as a fine. Because there are special rules for (((special people))). And even if they're somehow prosecuted then it's amazing how high their influence reaches.

This for example is what "draining the swamp" apparently looks like.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/22/why-trum...ntary.html

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-pard...-offenses/

Burn it all down or stand back and watch others do it for you. You are better off with a strong moral core and a gun in your hand than expecting "justice" from the government.

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(02-14-2020 04:19 PM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  
(02-14-2020 10:59 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I sometimes wonder, if you woke up to find yourself Emperor-King of your country and decided to set a bar for cultural standards at "the 1950's", what percentage of the population would enter into open revolt against you?

This is a really ugly question that raises it's head when topics come up like banning pornography or even merely banning easy access to it.

I would like it if making new porn was being made illegal.
Enough was produced already that it would take several lifetimes to see it all - why make some more ? Just stop it.

This is gold. Just make new production illegal. Like Oberrheiner said, there is enough porn to last a lifetime. And then make porn hard to access. The tube sites don't even have a warning page like the porn studios do. How do they get away with this?

The whole Crypto AG thing and vaccination drive in Pakistan to find Bin Laden stuff shows that the intelligence agencies think 10 steps ahead of the public. So there is a very small possibility that CIA and/or the Five Eyes network is behind some porn distribution for whatever strategic/nefarious reason.
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I'm against Pornhub and I am by no means defending them, but in order for government to legitimately go after Pornhub, wouldn't there have to be some anti-porn laws in place?

I would have no problem at all with porn being banned, but something seems wrong about allowing porn but then prosecuting the porn sites for stuff that's not really their fault, such as performers claiming to be older than they are.

They get thousands of videos uploaded to their site every day. Are they supposed to get proof of age from every single performer in every video? ID's can be Photoshopped, you know.

Like I said, I would have no problem with shutting these porn sites down. However, it seems unrealistic to allow these sites to operate with total legality but then go after them if they don't manage to verify the age of every performer.

If the goal is to eliminate porn, why not just shut them down? Why look for arbitrary excuses to go after them instead of just going after them for the evil they are doing (providing porn, regardless of performers' ages)?

Focusing on going after porn sites for things like this might make porn sites more careful to check ID's (which I suppose isn't a bad thing), but it won't do anything to combat the bigger problem, which is the easy access to porn in today's society.

We should be focusing on combating the notion (and legal precedent) that porn = free speech and is protected by the first amendment.

Don't get me wrong, I would like to see Pornhub shut down (and the people who run it thrown in jail) for any reason the law allows, even if it was for something stupid like tax evasion. They are bad people and they should be punished. I just don't think that going after them for the underage performers is going to do much to put a dent in the larger problem society has with pornography.
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Porn is never going to be banned this side of a societal collapse. The entirety of the Left and a large chunk of the Right (whether coomers or libertarians or both) would fight tooth and nail to preserve it. And bigger than that, the deep state funds and protects it in order to enslave the masses.

In this instance this has less to do with porn and more to do with lawlessness among the elites and their chosen pets. The outrage would be similar if for example that girl was being forced at gunpoint to work in a sweatshop, the temp agency who sent her there cashed their cheques and turned a blind eye, then the government in turn ignored the criminality of the temp agency.

Stories like this will not alter the balance of power. The elites control the government totally. Even the so-called "outsider maverick" Trump is completely bought and paid for.

These examples are for sane people to witness, absorb, and accept that withdrawal from our evil societies is all that we can do. The very point of this story is that nothing "lawful" can be done to stop these people.

Even when they break the law in plain sight they are not held to account.

So what good would changing the laws do?

To the extent possible we should withdraw our consent to be a part of this madness and also to the maximum extent possible withdraw our financial support from it too. The system is only propped up by the obedient slaves who mistakenly think they can salvage this wreck and thus wastefully pour themselves into damage control to save something that cannot and frankly should not be saved.

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I thought it might be worth pointing out that the woman who runs that twitter account is a self-described "Jesus loving radical leaning feminist" (an oxymoron if there ever was one), and her account is littered with retweets of quotes such as the following:

"You’ll never liberate women . . . as long as there is a subgroup of women who are being bought and sold in prostitution and pornography."

I agree with this woman that porn is bad and should be stopped, but it seems like she only believes this because she believes porn is a "tool of the patriarchy" (or something).
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(02-15-2020 01:57 AM)Rob Banks Wrote:  I would have no problem at all with porn being banned, but something seems wrong about allowing porn but then prosecuting the porn sites for stuff that's not really their fault, such as performers claiming to be older than they are.

The only thing shutting the sites down will do is make it more difficult for incels and husbands of frigid wives to find an easy release. The pervs and addicts will still find a way to get what they want.

As it stands, almost no one is going on Porntubes looking for underage chicks or anything illegal - it might be there, but very few people are looking for it. They go to certain message boards and dark web sites for that. Those sites will always exist.
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↑ So you're saying porn is good?

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(02-15-2020 02:42 AM)Rob Banks Wrote:  ↑ So you're saying porn is good?

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Read what I've written in this thread, I said porn rots your soul. Obviously, that's not good.

Shutting down porn sites is like prohibition. It won't do anything.
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RE: No action taken against Pornhub for displaying child porn
The late Howard Phillips used to say that when you legalize something, you get more of it.

Although I think porn should be banned, it's social stigma and shame that are really needed the most. One of the progressive lies is that feeling shame is a bad thing. To the contrary, it is almost always the voice of conscience.
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RE: No action taken against Pornhub for displaying child porn
They will never ban porn, it has become part of the cultural collapse.

It's just another test to see how the masses react and another step forward to making paedophilia a normality.

Stories like this will just continue to rise and rise.

Sad times we live in.
02-15-2020 04:36 AM
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(02-15-2020 03:45 AM)Athanasius Wrote:  ...One of the progressive lies is that feeling shame is a bad thing...

This, 1000 times over.

The notion that you shouldn't feel shame is the basis for cultural leftism. You shouldn't feel shame if you're a slut, if you're a single mom, if you get divorced, if you're homosexual, if you're a weak man, if you're fat, if you watch porn and jerk off, etc. etc. Basically, you shouldn't feel shame for any sort of degeneracy.

And guess what? Encouraging people not to feel shame for their degeneracy causes...more degeneracy.

I say this as someone who was a weak, degenerate man who, for most of my adult life, indulged my desires and felt no shame, and eventually lost everything that was meaningful to me due to my selfishness and lack of shame.
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RE: No action taken against Pornhub for displaying child porn
(02-15-2020 03:00 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  
(02-15-2020 02:42 AM)Rob Banks Wrote:  ↑ So you're saying porn is good?

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Read what I've written in this thread, I said porn rots your soul. Obviously, that's not good.

Shutting down porn sites is like prohibition. It won't do anything.

Exactly This!! Porn might be the most ironic thing ever! If the "Backpage" law is applied to Tube sites... the performers will be ECSTATIC since less people will consume it... but everyone who does will now have to pay for it... @ a Premium... and the Jenna Jameson days of Porn-stars being Multi-Millionaire will return!

Outside of the elite, no one's quite sure of how Porn aka the Tube Site will be dealt with (maybe @SS can chime in on this one! But make no mistake about it... The Tube Site owners... which also own the content producing companies... will keep on making Bank no matter what!
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(02-15-2020 02:37 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  ...
The only thing shutting the sites down will do is make it more difficult for incels and husbands of frigid wives to find an easy release...

(02-15-2020 03:00 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  ...
Read what I've written in this thread, I said porn rots your soul. Obviously, that's not good.

Shutting down porn sites is like prohibition. It won't do anything.

I haven't read all the previous responses in this thread, but if you think porn rots your soul, then why do you think it's a bad thing if banning porn makes it "difficult for incels and husbands of frigid wives to find an easy release."?

Why is it good for a man to have an "easy release" that doesn't involve sleeping with a woman he is married to (especially when that release is porn)?

Also, shutting down porn sites will make porn harder to access. That's something.
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RE: No action taken against Pornhub for displaying child porn
(02-15-2020 05:16 AM)Rob Banks Wrote:  I haven't read all the previous responses in this thread, but if you think porn rots your soul, then why do you think it's a bad thing if banning porn makes it "difficult for incels and husbands of frigid wives to find an easy release."?

I didn't say it was bad, I said it was ineffective.

The incel, etc line was to illustrate that the vast majority of porn watchers aren't looking for underage porn.
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