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(10-16-2013 07:07 AM)MattC Wrote:  BB, I'll take that link off you too please mate.

Teedub and any other UK freelancers looking to work abroad and not pay tax, I spoke to my accountant about the issue and here's what he said:

Quote:Unfortunately as you are UK resident you pay tax on all income earned, whether in the UK or abroad. To lose your UK residency you would need to be working abroad for more than 2 years.

If you suffer any overseas tax on the income earned abroad then this can be offset against your UK tax so that you are not taxed twice on the same income.

Dependent on the level of income you are to earn abroad and the amount of time you will be working, it is possible to claim some of your travel costs, computer costs etc. Any cost that enables you to carry out the work abroad.

Are all you guys paying tax anyway or are you not bothering? I don't really want to pay tax as I'm out of the country and don't see why I should have to.

Thats crazy but I think hes right

http://www.shelteroffshore.com/index.php...oses-10189

Quote:If HMRC accept that you have indeed left the UK permanently or for at least three years, you will be treated as not resident and not ordinarily resident retrospectively from the day after the date of your departure date as long as your absence from the UK has covered at least one whole tax year, and any visits you have made to the UK since leaving have totalled less than 183 days in any tax year, and have averaged less than 91 days a tax year over an average of the last 4 years.

So it sounds like you have income tax abroad but you would get it back once they accecpt your non-resident status. Wow you guys are getting screwed over there!
In my country youre a non-resident as soon as you spend less than 180 days in the country and dont have a place of residency.

I would really read up on the nuances of the laws though.

For example as a non-resident in my country I still have to pay taxes on certain income thats generated in my homecountry. But if you read the laws on that it doesnt really cover an internet business.
The laws are very complicated and there are loopholes to be found, espeically with online work where its not sure in which country the income is actually generated.

Online work has been a real game changer concerning taxes and I wouldnt rely on an accountant whos not an expert in this subject. Better to become an expert yourself!
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Ha, true. I've just spoken to someone else and they said that if you're out of the country for 6 months of a year in total then you don't have to pay tax.

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Hey, anyone around that would mind looking over a short article for me real quick? It's a sample I'm providing for a big job so I want to get some outside perspective before I submit.
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How do guys handle writing about subjects you loathe? Most of the high paying content writing gig are about finance/insurance. I just landed a well-paying job writing about the Dow Jones Industrial Average. When I try to start typing, I just remember my finance class in uni and how much I hated every bleeding second of it. Now I need to calm myself down with a quarter bottle Palinka....
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Yep, just sent you a PM.

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(10-16-2013 03:41 PM)Magyarphile Wrote:  How do guys handle writing about subjects you loathe? Most of the high paying content writing gig are about finance/insurance. I just landed a well-paying job writing about the Dow Jones Industrial Average. When I try to start typing, I just remember my finance class in uni and how much I hated every bleeding second of it. Now I need to calm myself down with a quarter bottle Palinka....

You just gotta do it man. Set yourself a goal to complete x amount of words before you do something you want to (e.g. compelte 500 more words before 5 minutes reading RVF). I' m currently completing a booklet on finance which is super dull and is slowly progressing away from writing to more graphics - absolute killer, but I have committed so much time I want to get it out the way.

Are you quite new to it? I've been doing it for a month now and have reached the $20 per hour mark but I'm also starting to write in niches I enjoy and know about. Business, sport, sales letters, etc.

I'm pretty sure there is high paying content out there in many other areas, it will be your experience, presentation and writing quality that will get you there. It'll take time, but I can see myself moving on up.

Hope that helps.

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How is everyone getting on? Where are we all at?
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(10-16-2013 03:41 PM)Magyarphile Wrote:  How do guys handle writing about subjects you loathe? Most of the high paying content writing gig are about finance/insurance. I just landed a well-paying job writing about the Dow Jones Industrial Average. When I try to start typing, I just remember my finance class in uni and how much I hated every bleeding second of it. Now I need to calm myself down with a quarter bottle Palinka....

Just act like the whore you are! Focus on a point on the wall and do what you gotta do to get that money. Think about rainbows and fluffy bunnies while your client has his way with you. Let the big fat check you receive afterwards ease your pain. I wrote 500+ articles about wine this year and I dont even drink the stuff. Now whenever I see a bottle I get flashbacks and start rattling down random facts. Its terrible but what are you gonna do? Get a proper job?
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Guys, is it a must to have a portfolio in order to get jobs and start bidding for jobs? My tasks will be mainly translating, although I have worked for a company before doing translations, I don't want to upload any of these documents because the information is too personal (i used to translate clients clients cvs, criminal records, certificates, etc). I would appreciate any feedback on that.
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(10-18-2013 09:13 AM)pitt Wrote:  Guys, is it a must to have a portfolio in order to get jobs and start bidding for jobs? My tasks will be mainly translating, although I have worked for a company before doing translations, I don't want to upload any of these documents because the information is too personal (i used to translate clients clients cvs, criminal records, certificates, etc). I would appreciate any feedback on that.

It's not necessary, but it might make it harder. You can bid in at cheap rates and when potential clients ask to see previous experience you can just mention the above. Ask every client to use their work in your portfolio and it'll get easier.

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Not 100% necessary, Pitt, but it definitely helps close deals. Why not just write a few articles for your portfolio or start a blog?

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I googled "sales page example" but only got results about how to make a great sales page, what to put in it, and whatnot. However, there was no example of one.

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(10-18-2013 08:55 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I googled "sales page example" but only got results about how to make a great sales page, what to put in it, and whatnot. However, there was no example of one.

What are you looking for?

Are you writing a sales page for a client?

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(10-18-2013 08:55 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I googled "sales page example" but only got results about how to make a great sales page, what to put in it, and whatnot. However, there was no example of one.

What are you looking for?

Are you writing a sales page for a client?

I'm just looking to see how a sales page looks like. Many entry level elance jobs are sales pages, but can't find an example of one.

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(10-18-2013 09:42 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  
(10-18-2013 09:30 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  
(10-18-2013 08:55 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I googled "sales page example" but only got results about how to make a great sales page, what to put in it, and whatnot. However, there was no example of one.

What are you looking for?

Are you writing a sales page for a client?

I'm just looking to see how a sales page looks like. Many entry level elance jobs are sales pages, but can't find an example of one.

The Warrior Forum special offers section is full of examples of sales pages. You can also go to Clickbank and when viewing affiliate programs in the marketplace click over to check out their sales page.

PM me your email and I can send you a couple examples I've done, though my work experience in this area is scarce.

Sales writing is a very specialized skill and much harder than it looks (if done effectively). I don't discourage you from learning it - in fact, I highly recommend it - but I'd advise on staying away if you're not even quite sure what a sales page even is yet. Go do some reading on how it's done, tactics, etc, first, and then write a couple of them to practice. It's a whole other field of writing.

This is one of the highest paid skills in freelancing - actually, probably THE highest.

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To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
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(10-18-2013 09:42 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  
(10-18-2013 09:30 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  
(10-18-2013 08:55 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I googled "sales page example" but only got results about how to make a great sales page, what to put in it, and whatnot. However, there was no example of one.

What are you looking for?

Are you writing a sales page for a client?

I'm just looking to see how a sales page looks like. Many entry level elance jobs are sales pages, but can't find an example of one.

The Warrior Forum special offers section is full of examples of sales pages. You can also go to Clickbank and when viewing affiliate programs in the marketplace click over to check out their sales page.

PM me your email and I can send you a couple examples I've done, though my work experience in this area is scarce.

Sales writing is a very specialized skill and much harder than it looks (if done effectively). I don't discourage you from learning it, but I'd advise on staying away if you're not even quite sure what a sales page is yet. Go do some reading on how it's done first - strategies, research requirements, psychology, etc. It's a whole other field of writing.

This is one of the highest paid skills in freelancing - actually, probably THE highest. If you can get good at it, you're set.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
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(10-18-2013 09:54 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  
(10-18-2013 09:42 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  
(10-18-2013 09:30 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  
(10-18-2013 08:55 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I googled "sales page example" but only got results about how to make a great sales page, what to put in it, and whatnot. However, there was no example of one.

What are you looking for?

Are you writing a sales page for a client?

I'm just looking to see how a sales page looks like. Many entry level elance jobs are sales pages, but can't find an example of one.

The Warrior Forum special offers section is full of examples of sales pages. You can also go to Clickbank and when viewing affiliate programs in the marketplace click over to check out their sales page.

PM me your email and I can send you a couple examples I've done, though my work experience in this area is scarce.

Sales writing is a very specialized skill and much harder than it looks (if done effectively). I don't discourage you from learning it - in fact, I highly recommend it - but I'd advise on staying away if you're not even quite sure what a sales page even is yet. Go do some reading on how it's done, tactics, etc, first, and then write a couple of them to practice. It's a whole other field of writing.

This is one of the highest paid skills in freelancing - actually, probably THE highest.

Any tips on which books to read? I am trying to move into paid online advertising, so need to get pro at writing ads and copy quickly. So far I've read:

Cashvertising

Ogilvy on Advertising
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(10-18-2013 11:51 PM)scandibro Wrote:  
(10-18-2013 09:54 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  
(10-18-2013 09:42 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  
(10-18-2013 09:30 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  
(10-18-2013 08:55 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I googled "sales page example" but only got results about how to make a great sales page, what to put in it, and whatnot. However, there was no example of one.

What are you looking for?

Are you writing a sales page for a client?

I'm just looking to see how a sales page looks like. Many entry level elance jobs are sales pages, but can't find an example of one.

The Warrior Forum special offers section is full of examples of sales pages. You can also go to Clickbank and when viewing affiliate programs in the marketplace click over to check out their sales page.

PM me your email and I can send you a couple examples I've done, though my work experience in this area is scarce.

Sales writing is a very specialized skill and much harder than it looks (if done effectively). I don't discourage you from learning it - in fact, I highly recommend it - but I'd advise on staying away if you're not even quite sure what a sales page even is yet. Go do some reading on how it's done, tactics, etc, first, and then write a couple of them to practice. It's a whole other field of writing.

This is one of the highest paid skills in freelancing - actually, probably THE highest.

Any tips on which books to read? I am trying to move into paid online advertising, so need to get pro at writing ads and copy quickly. So far I've read:

Cashvertising

Ogilvy on Advertising

I'm not sure what the best ones are right now. See what's popular on Amazon and make sure there are reviews from real copywriters so you know it's legit. Also, visit the copywriting subforum over at WF; I'm almost positive they'll have a must-read list in there somewhere.

John Carlton has some pretty solid courses. He's one of the most well-known and highest-paid copywriters out there, and from what I've seen I like his teaching style. Any copywriting course worth its salt is going to be a pretty penny though - count on it.

Eben Pagan has some videos in his Guru Mastermind course about how to write a good sales page, and I've used his layout and strategy a few times in the past. A pretty good resource for newbies who want to write a first page, in my opinion. GM is probably unavailable at the moment, but you might be able to hunt down these videos somewhere online.

Of course, anything by Dan Kennedy or, especially, Gary Halbert, is timeless.

I've also learned some stuff from a less well-known guy named Ray Raydal (I think it was) who does info products about copywriting. I haven't followed him in quite some time though, so I can't say how current his material is.

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(10-18-2013 08:55 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I googled "sales page example" but only got results about how to make a great sales page, what to put in it, and whatnot. However, there was no example of one.

Check out the image results, there are lots of good examples. Also look at "squeeze page examples".
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For copywriting check out Gary Halbert, Gary Bencivenga, John Carlton and John Benson. Their courses are expensive but you can get some books really cheap on amazon like John Carlton "The Entrepreneurs Guide to getting your shit together" and Gary Halberts "The Boron Letters" (both highly recommended).

This is NOT a skill you can learn over night though. Good copywriters earn a fortune but they are also paid based on the performance of their work.

Here is what the great Gary Halbert has to say on the topic:

Quote:Dear Friend & Subscriber,

Every once in a while, someone comes to me and says something like this: "Gary, I've got to learn how to write copy. I've never done it before and I've got just 30-days to learn how to create a world class promotion. Can you help me? Can you make me into a world class copywriter in just 30-days? Can you, huh? Can you? Huh? Huh?"

Strangely enough, the answer is yes. Sort of. At least, I can give a "qualified yes" answer to such a question. Actually, I may not be able to make someone "world class" in just 30-days, but I can almost certainly make such a person better than anyone he or she is likely to be able to hire.

Providing, of course, that the person in question has at least a modicum of talent and, much more importantly, the ability to follow directions and an appetite for very hard work.

Here's how I'd do it: If you were my student, the first thing I'd ask you to do is give yourself a basic education in valid advertising principles. To begin with, I'd want you to read everything listed below:

"Scientific Advertising"

-by Claude Hopkins

"The Robert Collier Letter Book"

-by Robert Collier

"Tested Advertising Methods"
-by John Caples
"How To Write A Good Advertisement"

-by Vic Schwab

"The Gary Halbert Letter" (all back issues)

-by Gary Halbert
"The Boron Letters"

-by Gary Halbert

"The Lazy Man's Way to Riches"

-by Joe Karbo

"Break-Through Advertising"

-by Eugene M. Schwartz

"7-Steps To Freedom"

-by Ben Suarez

O.K., after you had read all of the above, I would further instruct you to read nothing else and not take notes. You know, getting a good education in any field is tricky and, in advertising, it borders impossible. You see, most books written abut advertising are not just bad; they are downright dangerous! Many years ago, Claude Hopkins (the greatest ad man who ever lived) was asked to critique and offer suggestions on how to improve some college textbooks on advertising. His suggestion?

"Burn Them!"

Truly. Claude further went on to say that the "educators" involved had no right to impose such erroneous BS on a group of naive students, that it would take years of front-line experience to "deprogram" the students and free them up from all that garbage.

So listen: Not only is it important what you do learn; it is equally important what you do not learn. So, step one is to read only the material I have listed.

Now, about this business of not taking notes: Don't worry. We're not finished with those books, newsletters, and Boron Letters after just one reading. No Sir. Not by a long shot. Those books and those letters should become your lifetime companions.

However, for now, I want you to just rip right through them, non-stop.

O.K., now that you've read all that material, what's next? This: I want you to get a copy of the following ads and direct mail letters:
"Do You Make These Mistakes In English?"

"What Everybody Should Know About This Stock And Bond Business"

"The Nancy L. Halbert Heraldry Letter"

"How To Burn Off Body Fat, Hour-By-Hour"

"At 60 Miles An Hour The Loudest Noise In This Rolls Royce Is The Ticking Of The Electric Clock"

"Why Men Crack"

"How To Collect From Social Security At Any Age"

"The Admiral Byrd Transpolar Expedition Letter"

"The Lazy Man's Way To Riches"

And, in general, anything you can get your hands on that was written by Gary Bencivenga, Dan Rosenthal, Joe E. Kennedy, Pat Garrard, Steve Brown, Drew Kaplan, Claude Hopkins, Joe Karbo, Ben Suarez, Joe Sugarman, Gene Schwartz and, of course, yours truly.

Onward. Now that you've obtained copies of these ads and letters, I want you to sit down and copy them out word-for-word in your own handwriting. Next, I want you to create a hand-drawn layout of each ad and direct mail package. Listen: The goal here is to get you to create a professional package (completely "comped up") that is all ready to go first to a typist and then to a typesetter.

Now, after you've done all this, I want you to actually take one of these packages to a typist and then to a typesetter and have the ad or direct mail package typeset. Then proof the ad and, after making any necessary corrections, have a velox (stat) made of it.

Alright. What you have just completed is all the necessary "end steps" of writing out the final draft of an ad, laying it out and getting it typeset and stated and totally (and perfectly) "camera-ready" so it can be given to a "no-brainer" publication printer.

Do this. Do it. Do it. Don't be simple-minded. Don't come to me and say, "O.K., Gary, I've got the idea. I know what you're getting at. It really wasn't necessary for me to do all that mechanical stuff as long as I understand what you're driving at, right Gary?"

Sorry Buckwheat; it doesn't work that way. If you really want to know it, you've really got to do it.

There are no shortcuts.

You know, I'm sick to death of people who can't be bothered with the little nitty-gritty details of "hands on" experience. Of people who believe that somehow they can know a thing without experiencing it. Listen: It is possible to be "conversant" with something and really not have any kind of "gut understanding" of it at all. I'm sorry, but no matter what your Mommy and Daddy told you, men can never really understand the pain of childbirth, priests cannot comprehend the joys of sex, "normies" can never understand alcoholics, and not one speck of true advertising wisdom has ever been written by a PhD.

By the way, did you ever see all those ads by copywriters in DM News and the Reporter of Direct Marketing? The ones where they mention all their awards?

Know this: Not one of the legends mentioned so far in this letter care one iota about awards. No, my friend, if you would ever hear Ben Suarez, Sugarman, or any of the rest of us talking about our achievements, we won't be talking about awards, we'll be talking about numbers!

Forgive me, I digress. Let us press on. So far, we've only done the "end steps" of creating an ad. In actuality, there's a hell of a lot more involved before we ever get to that point. It's time to go back to work. It's time to prepare your "tool kit." First, I now want you to go back and reread all those advertising books and back issues of my newsletters (including the Boron Letters and, this time, take notes. Write down every good idea, every important insight and every nugget of wisdom that is contained in all that material. What this means, my friend, is that by the time you are finished, you should have hundreds of notes.

Put these notes aside. Next, go back over all that material and write out every headline you find therein. Also, get a bunch of back issues of The National Enquirer and Cosmopolitan Magazine and copy all the headlines you will find that seem to be repeated over and over. Especially copy a lot of the "cover blurbs" from Cosmo; they are superb. Another good source of headlines is "2001 Headlines" which was compiled by Jay Abraham.

Let us review. Here's what you should have done so far:
1. You should have read all the books and newsletters I have recommended.
2. You should have copied out all the ads and direct mail letters I have listed.
3. You should've had at least one of those promotions comped up and typeset.
4. You should've reread all the books and newsletters and taken hundreds of notes.
5. You should've read all those "headline sources" and copied down mucho headlines.

Enough review. Next, take all your notes and headlines and put each individual note and each individual headline on a white 3 x 5 index card. And finally, take all those cards and put them in shoe boxes and then go take some time off. At least time off from this stuff. Go play golf for a few days or go back to your normal work routine or take a short vacation or whatever.

All rested?

Guess what? We are now ready, after all this "prep", to begin writing that first ad or direct mail letter. And so, let us begin. The first thing I want you to do is read and reread every ad or direct mail package that has already been written about what you are trying to sell. Take notes. Secondly, read and take notes on every ad or direct mail piece you can find that has been written for a competing or similar product or service.

Next, carefully examine the product or service and find out everything you can about it. If it's a book, read it. If it's a product, examine it. If it's a service, use it and ask questions.

Take notes on all this.

Put those notes on 3 x 5 index cards (one note per card) and put all those notes in a shoe box.

Go do something else for a few days. And listen: If you have a good idea during that time, don't verbalize it, don't write it down, don't tell anybody and try not to think about it. The idea here is to let everything ferment and boil and bubble up inside of you.

Back to work. We are now about to write the first draft of our ad. Go isolate yourself in a library or an office somewhere. Take all your shoe boxes with you. First, take out the 3 x 5 cards on the product or service you're going to write about. Shuffle through those cards. Read them. Say, "hmn?" every once in a while.

Now start shuffling through all your other 3 x 5 cards. Think about how all those good ideas and insights could be applied to your current project. Look at all of those hundreds of proven headlines. Think about how all those headlines could be modified to work for your current project. Maybe you could change "Do You Make These Mistakes In English?" to "Do You Say Any Of These Dumb Things Every Time You Call Your Stockbroker?" or maybe "Tova Borgnine Swears Under Oath That Her New Perfume Does Not Contain An Illegal Sexual Stimulant" could be transmuted to:

"Local Jeweler Swears Under Oath
That None Of Those Diamonds He Sells So Cheaply
Have Been Stolen!"

Get the idea? Of course you do. Keep shuffling those cards. Keep reading them. Jot down ideas as they occur to you. Actually shuffle the index cards like they were playing cards. Write out a couple "dumb" headline ideas. Write out some headlines that make more sense. Write a few that start with "How To...." Some that start with "17 Ways To...." And some that begin with "An Amazing...." And some that say "A Little Secret That...."

And so on. Write. Write. Write. Write. Write. Write. Write.

And guess what? Out of all this, if you really have done everything I have suggested, exactly as I have instructed - out will pop a "central selling idea" so powerful, so fresh and so compelling that you will know it is exactly right for the ad or direct mail package you are struggling to create.

I promise. It happens every time.

And when it does, write it down. If you are writing a direct mail letter, work that central selling idea into your first sentence. If you are writing any ad, use that CSI in the headline.

Now listen up. This is important. What will happen at this point is that your "mental floodgates" will be wide open. Ideas will come gushing out like water from a broken fire hydrant. Capture those ideas. Forget form. Forget grammar.

Write. Write. Write. Write. As fast as you can. Hurry! Hurry! Hurry! Hurry!

Don't stop for anything. Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go!

Write. Write. Write. Write. Page after page. Tell everything. Every detail. Every nuance. Every benefit. Every product feature. Every advantage.

Get it all. Get it all. Get it all.

Write. Write. Write. Write.

Rave! Rave! Rave! Rave! Crow! Describe! Enthuse! Give details. Don't worry about getting it perfect. Don't worry about spelling. Don't worry about formulas. Just keep writing. Go fast. Get it all. Write! Write! Write! Write!

And when you are done, set all this work aside and go do something else for a day or so. Let it cool.

And when you are ready to go back to work, I want you to go back to your first draft and now rework it in the following sequence:
1. Say something that gets attention.
2. Tell them why they should be interested. (Expand on CSI)
3. Tell them why they should believe what you are saying is true.
4. Prove it is true.
5. Itemize and describe all benefits.
6. Tell them how to order.
7. Tell them to order now.

O.K., after you have rearranged all your material so it conforms to the above sequence, you should now check your spelling, correct your grammar, edit and, in general, tighten up your copy.

Next, read your copy aloud. When you do this, you will discover all those little snags where your copy isn't smooth, where it doesn't flow well, where the transition from one sentence to another or from one paragraph to another or simply from one thought to another is less than seamless.

Now edit again. Make it tight. Use short sentences. Short paragraphs. Everyday English. Use some one word sentences. Use some one sentence paragraphs. Use subheads that make your copy look interesting and...

Easy To Read!

You could do more. A lot more. This is not, by a long shot, all you need to know to write "world class" copy. But, believe it or not, if you just do (I mean actually do it) everything I've described here, you'll be better than 99% of all those frauds who brag about their Golden Mailbox and Echo Awards.

And, isn't it wonderful how easy it is? Heck, I bet you thought it was going to be work.
Sincerely,

Gary C. Halbert

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RE: Freelancing on Elance etc.
what should you be charging/bidding for writing services?
I put up a profile for product/book reviewing, content pages for products, article rewrites, editing and proofing documents and academic work.
there is a LOT of competition, and most people seem to be doing a race to the bottom on bids. most prices are in dollars, so in effect, even lower.
are there any UK sites worth looking at for non-technical specialties? or does fiverr have a UK equivalent?

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I may have quite a bit of work for someone who has some time on their hands this week, starting immediately. Someone with a health science background who can type fast.

I can only pay $20 an hour for this work, but as I understand, that's quite a bit more than a lot of you guys are getting, so I figured it was at least worth seeing if anybody was interested. Sorry it's not more.

Hit me up with a pm and let me know what your experience is and how much time you can give me this week, and have some samples ready. It's essentially rewriting work, but since this isn't a strong area for me it's taking me longer than I would expect having to look up everything to understand what it is the original writer was actually saying.

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I've seen a few members' new writing sites now and some of you guys are really pulling it together on getting your freelace bizzes going. Nice to see people taking action!

Just don't take all my clients away. Big Grin

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For those who doubt there are serious clients on Elance, I thought you might find this interesting. Check out what I noticed when I wandered over to a client profile while bidding on a job today.

Note how much they've spent on the 474 jobs they've contracted out. Interesting, eh?

   

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Averaging about $60 per job.. How many jobs do you usually complete each day?
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I've not been doing as much as I should've recently but I've just finished 6 different articles for one of my regular clients. 3 of them were related to his website products and the other 3 he wanted written about art or photography in genera and I had to choose them.

It's amazing the stuff you learn doing this job. One of the articles I did was about how modern art was used by the CIA against the Soviet Union during the Cold War and how it influenced public opinion in both countries. Mental.

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