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(05-05-2014 10:49 PM)SHANbangs Wrote:  wtf happened to roy hibbert?

Depending on which rumor you believe, he and Paul George were having a threesome and then "things got weird" and it hasn't been the same since.

The other rumor is that George was banging Hibbert's woman and Hibbert found out.
05-06-2014 01:18 PM
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(05-06-2014 01:18 PM)DetlefMourning Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 10:49 PM)SHANbangs Wrote:  wtf happened to roy hibbert?

Depending on which rumor you believe, he and Paul George were having a threesome and then "things got weird" and it hasn't been the same since.

The other rumor is that George was banging Hibbert's woman and Hibbert found out.

Part of me thinks those rumors have some truth to them and then part of me thinks this is who he is. He had one good series against Miami last year and he got overrated as hell. His career averages are 11/7 for a reason. Obviously this is an otherworldly slump right now but all this tells me is that this dude is weak mentally. At this point Indiana is paying $15 mil/year for garbage.
05-06-2014 01:29 PM
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I hate Roy Hibbert, and here's why:

http://jamaica-star.com/thestar/20131010...orts1.html

Quote:Indiana's Hibbert regrets representing Jamaica: Indiana Pacers star centre Roy Hibbert has expressed regret at ever donning the national colours as he continues to be frustrated in his bid to represent the United States.

"I thought I could have been in that group. If I had gotten invited, I wouldn't have played for Team Jamaica. You live and you learn," the player said.

"There has been some dialogue, but right now international lawyers are taking care of that to see if I can get out of my Team Jamaica thing," Hibbert said.

It does seem certain that the player will not reconsider his stance as it regards donning the black green and gold.

"If I don't play for Team USA ever again, I'll enjoy my summers and bulk up like I did this summer."

"Get out of my Team Jamaica thing"? That's what you call the opportunity to represent my country? The "Team Jamaica thing"? You'd think the man was talking about a coffee date or a scheduled brunch, not a commitment he'd made to represent the nation of his heritage on the international stage.

This is the kind of man that Roy Hibbert is. Wishy-washy, uncommitted, dishonorable and utterly unreliable. He is not someone you trust to carry the day. He's someone you trust to fold when things get tough, and to shun any responsibilities/commitments whenever it is convenient for him. The man showed zero respect for the colors or the nation they represented, and did nothing to honor the commitment he made to Jamaica. The callousness with which he dismisses that opportunity and his own heritage is mind boggling to me, but it should be expected: that's just the man he is. The Pacers are finding that out right now.

Hibbert has never been a sure shot for the USA roster. With the way he has been playing of late, he's looking rather unlikely to change that in the future. He probably won't ever get to wear American colors, and I quite frankly regret the fact that he ever had the chance to wear Jamaica's. The man is the ultimate waggonist and doesn't deserve to represent anybody. I'm sorry to call him a fellow citizen of Jamaica and a fellow diasporan - he doesn't deserve to share our heritage given how utterly unwilling he is to honor it.

As I said earlier, the Pacers are learning the hard way about the nature of Roy Hibbert. He's putting as much effort in for his professional team as he did for his country, and he takes his commitment to the Pacers (his teammates, his coaches/administrators and the team's fans) about as seriously as he did his commitment to Jamaica. Roy Hibbert is trash inside and out, and I'm glad these playoffs have helped to make that fact clearer to the world.
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Roy Hibbert has never been good. He was considered a project coming out of the league. His career averages are 11.2 points, 6.7 rebounds, 1.5 assists those are garbage numbers for a starting center making over 14 million a year, shit he's the highest paid player on the team http://hoopshype.com/salaries/indiana.htm. and that is scheduled to increase every year until 2015-16. Dude is 7'2" and only averages 6.7 rebounds for his career. The only thing he can do is guard the basket by staying vertical. But since teams are taking him away from the basket even his defense is becoming as inept as his offensive output. Basically he's useless and only getting token minutes to keep him from completely losing all confidence. At this point he's barely part of the game plan.
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Excelsior, what other Jamaicans are in the league besides Hibbert?

Also, Mark Jackson is out in Golden State.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2...ead-coach/
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As predicted, Marc Jackson fired.
05-06-2014 04:07 PM
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Isn't Roy Half Trini? So doesn't he get to Represent Team TnT also? Other Jamaicans in the league as far as I know is Ben Gordon (Jamaican mother). Best Jamaican baller ever was Kingston man Patrick Ewing.

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(05-06-2014 03:41 PM)iWin Wrote:  Excelsior, what other Jamaicans are in the league besides Hibbert?

There aren't any Jamaican-born players in the NBA right now. Samardo Samuels was the most recent, but the Cavs released him last year.

Toney Douglas, Andre Drummond and Ryan Hollins are all eligible to represent us, but have not done so yet. There are a few more Jamaican-descendants in the NBA, but many of them are already in the Canadian player pool (Anthony Bennett, Tristan Thompson, Andrew Nicholson, etc).
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(05-06-2014 04:10 PM)Moma Wrote:  Isn't Roy Half Trini? So doesn't he get to Represent Team TnT also? Other Jamaicans in the league as far as I know is Ben Gordon (Jamaican mother). Best Jamaican baller ever was Kingston man Patrick Ewing.

Roy's mother is Trini, I think. He could have played for them, but committed to JA first. Doesn't matter either way, the Trinis would have gotten the same lack of commitment from him that we did. Roy shouldn't be representing any nation.
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(05-06-2014 04:36 PM)Excelsior Wrote:  
(05-06-2014 03:41 PM)iWin Wrote:  Excelsior, what other Jamaicans are in the league besides Hibbert?

There aren't any Jamaican-born players in the NBA right now. Samardo Samuels was the most recent, but the Cavs released him last year.

Toney Douglas, Andre Drummond and Ryan Hollins are all eligible to represent us, but have not done so yet. There are a few more Jamaican-descendants in the NBA, but many of them are already in the Canadian player pool (Anthony Bennett, Tristan Thompson, Andrew Nicholson, etc).

I remember Samardo from high school at St.Benedicts where he was impossible to guard due to his strength and was one of top 5 players in the entire country during his senior year. He also had a solid career at Louisville, but kind of surprised alot of people when left to the NBA. He was dogged by conditioning issues for most of his career, and when he finally got in the shape a logjam at his position caused him to get cut by the Cavs who were in rebuilding mode and still are. Last I heard he was hooping in Milan.

Your post about Canadians also reminded me that Canadian basketball is burgeoning on the global scene with Toronto being a hotbed lately. There's a youth AAU team, called CIA Bounce which has dominated American teams in alot of those summer youth tournaments, and has produced a ton of quality high major players like:
Andrew Wiggins(Kansas)
Tyler Ennis(Syracuse)
Xavier Rathan Mayes(Florida State)
Tristan Thompson(Texas & NBA)
Anthony Bennett(UNLV & NBA)
Stefan Jankovic(Missouri)
Melvin Ejim(Iowa State)

A couple other guys like Cory Joseph(San Antonio) and his brother Devoe have found success in the states since many of them are opting to play at US HS powerhouses like Findlay Prep and Huntington High School. This has exposed them to higher competition and more investment in youth basketball including sponsorships from Nike has helped with the expansion. Toronto fans are also some of the most rabid in the league and the influence of Vince Carter, has made alot of kids more interested in taking up hoops. Wouldn't be surprising to see them compete at a high level for the next coming Olympics, especially with Steve Nash being the GM of the senior team.

A kid whos considered the best prospect in youth basketball for Canada, is also from Jamaica, named Justin Jackson. Here are some highlights:







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KD's MVP acceptance speech is reason I love sports, basketball, and the slim reaper.
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(05-06-2014 10:18 PM)hoops330 Wrote:  KD's MVP acceptance speech is reason I love sports, basketball, and the slim reaper.

Yes!

I think that speech will help them going forward. It was a great display of authentic passion and love.

It will help them against the Clippers.
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It's funny how the media pumped up Mark Jackson so he could get the GS coaching spot. He was anointed by ESPN and MSG wholesale and then now the media quickly are him alive web they saw some exposed meat to feast on.

Steve Kerr should take notes because the exact same thing is happening with him right now in the starting stages, and the vultures will only be worse in NYC.
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Daaaamn, haven't posted in this thread in a minute, but what a playoff season it's been thus far! The first round was insane! Last night the clippers blew me away. CP3 was on fire. OKC getting crushed at home was a surprise to everyone I think. Unfortunately, I have to call Miami taking it all again this season. Still yet to lose in the playoffs when most of the top seeds are barely hanging in there. If you ask me, Indiana is done for. They've fallen off. I'm stoked I've been able to watch the playoffs here in Jamaica. I'm doubtful though I'll be able to catch much in cuba. Should be able to catch the end of the conference finals in the DR.
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(05-06-2014 07:44 PM)iWin Wrote:  I remember Samardo from high school at St.Benedicts where he was impossible to guard due to his strength and was one of top 5 players in the entire country during his senior year. He also had a solid career at Louisville, but kind of surprised alot of people when left to the NBA. He was dogged by conditioning issues for most of his career, and when he finally got in the shape a logjam at his position caused him to get cut by the Cavs who were in rebuilding mode and still are. Last I heard he was hooping in Milan.

Your post about Canadians also reminded me that Canadian basketball is burgeoning on the global scene with Toronto being a hotbed lately. There's a youth AAU team, called CIA Bounce which has dominated American teams in alot of those summer youth tournaments, and has produced a ton of quality high major players like:
Andrew Wiggins(Kansas)
Tyler Ennis(Syracuse)
Xavier Rathan Mayes(Florida State)
Tristan Thompson(Texas & NBA)
Anthony Bennett(UNLV & NBA)
Stefan Jankovic(Missouri)
Melvin Ejim(Iowa State)

A couple other guys like Cory Joseph(San Antonio) and his brother Devoe have found success in the states since many of them are opting to play at US HS powerhouses like Findlay Prep and Huntington High School. This has exposed them to higher competition and more investment in youth basketball including sponsorships from Nike has helped with the expansion. Toronto fans are also some of the most rabid in the league and the influence of Vince Carter, has made alot of kids more interested in taking up hoops. Wouldn't be surprising to see them compete at a high level for the next coming Olympics, especially with Steve Nash being the GM of the senior team.

A kid whos considered the best prospect in youth basketball for Canada, is also from Jamaica, named Justin Jackson. Here are some highlights:








Yes, Samardo is playing for Emporio Armani Milano in the Euro League. Tyler Ennis is also a Jamaican. His older brother Dylan already represents Jamaica.

http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball...l_fac.html

Here's an article discussing the Jamaican impact on Canadian basketball:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/j...-on-sport/

Quote:Some of the Jamaican national basketball team will feel right at home as they venture into Toronto for a couple of exhibition games against Canada and they too, like many other countries, can utter the bemusing question starting with the words “what if?”

Tyler Ennis, a cornerstone of the Canadian National Junior team, who will be attending Syracuse University this fall, has a brother, Dylan, who will suit up for Jamaica. The NBA’s first overall pick Anthony Bennett, Tristan Thompson as well as Jermaine Anderson, Jevohn Shepherd, Andrew Nicholson and Junior Cadougan will wear the Maple Leaf but all have Jamaican lineage. As Anderson, who is affectionately known as “Rock” laughed, when identifying the Jamaican-Canadians playing for Canada “we’ve adopted (Brady) Heslip too.”

Let’s not forget one of the decision-makers near the top for Canada, Rowan Barrett, executive vice-president and assistant general manager is yep, of Jamaican ancestry.

So as fans that take in the two contests over the next few days need to remember that the Caribbean Island that occupies a small part of the world map has a far reach when it comes to athletics in a number of sports.

Canada is profiting immensely from the presence of a Jamaican diaspora. Their growing presence in Toronto has done more to fuel the growth of Canadian basketball than anything else. They are the biggest reason why Toronto has become such a fertile space for basketball talent.

Frankly, that annoys me - I would prefer to see these players enriching the homeland instead, but I respect and understand their choice.
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So... was Roy Hibbert's slump just a guerrilla marketing campaign for Space Jam 2?
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Big men get overpaid; that's just how it goes. Hibbert's presence at the rim genuinely bothers LeBron at times. There's a reason the Pacers have played the Heat tough in the playoffs and that's because against Indiana LeBron does not have an express lane to the basket.
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The Nets bringing the fire tonight. Game getting testy. This one's going to be good. Nets win a close one.

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That was a good game. Looks like a home bounce for the Nets is evident. Spurs vs Heat 2014 NBA finals? Or is it still to early to say.

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KD's gotta answer that LeBron game...

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(05-12-2014 10:18 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  KD's gotta answer that LeBron game...

Yeah, would rather see OKC @ Heat in the Finals just to see KD @ Lebron.

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Huge choke by the Nets
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