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Not even with a 10 foot pole.

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Letters from the battlefront: Argentina
10-03-2014 09:33 AM
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I'd bang for the Presidential notch.
10-03-2014 11:29 AM
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(10-02-2014 05:33 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Not taking into account the war mongering of the Argentine government. I am in agreement over those hedge funds being vultures of the worse kind.

They dont give a shit about how many normal people on the street this has affected. Hell Argentina isn't the only country to suffer at their hands.

Why does a New York judge have so much power over another country? The elite of Argentina is bad but at least they did not create a bubble so massive and fake that it caused the whole world to drop into a recession which still affects us now.

Hedge funds have way too much power and influence. But money talks as they say.

Fuck that noise. Argentina issued debt. These hedge funds own the debt. Argentina owes them money.

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10-03-2014 12:42 PM
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Wag the dog ...... She's deflecting issues with other issues. However, I would not be surprised if the US wants to topple her. I'm not familiar with Argie politics to know much. But I did study american politics a bit in university so I will say this. It's chess not checkers as Denzel said in training day. Those bankers knew Argentina would default before they gave the money.
10-03-2014 08:05 PM
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I was going to sympathise with her, but her constant fucking harping on about the FALKLANDS - not the Malvinas - as a smoke and mirrors tactic to distract her people from the hole her country had been dug into, put paid to that.

They could set Carlos Hathcock on her for all I care.
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10-05-2014 01:35 AM
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She has gone full-third-world revo. Soon she'll be wearing a Che Guevara beret. Aligning herself with Iran.

After reading this, she might be right, they might be after her. Probably won't kill her, they'll just counteract the plastic surgery and make her look like a hag.

Article by Gamel Nkrumah (son of old-style socialist Ghanian leader Kwame Nkrumah)

Gamal Nkrumah Al Ahram Weekly: Forewarning of Fernandez

Quote:Argentinian President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner deserves acclaim and commendation from the international community. At the UN Security Council brainstorming session on “terrorism”, Fernández de Kirchner did not mince her words. Her candour was breathtakingly courageous.
Fernández set the record straight, much to the consternation of Western powers. “Our investigation’s results indicate that Iran wasn’t behind Argentina’s terrorist attacks,” she lambasted the West.
The Argentinian president did not beat around the bush. “You killed many innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan under the name of war against terrorism,” she said, referring to the West in general and to Washington in particular. Small wonder Western leaders have little enthusiasm for Fernández’s decorum and demeanour.
The West marches to the beat of its own drum. “Hizbullah of Lebanon is a recognised great organisation in Lebanon, not a terrorist group,” Fernández extrapolated.
Undaunted by walkouts and grunts of disapproval, after acknowledging that both Argentina and the United States have been subject in the past to terrorist attacks, Fernández urged the West to be more understanding and compliant with the rest of the world, sighting Buenos Aires’ memorandum of understanding with Iran. Washington and its Western allies are capable of following the Argentinian example.
So Argentina took on two meanings for two separate groups of nations: those emerging powers such as Russia, India and China for whom Fernández is tailor-made for them; and Western powers who have no political place for the Argentinian leader, primarily because she spoke her mind.
And then, Fernández detonated her bombshell. “Today you pretend making a coalition against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), but in fact you’re their allies,” the Argentinian president stated calmly and collected.
It was against this backdrop that the debt row between Argentina and its Western creditors erupted. “Argentina wants to pay, can pay and is going to pay all its debts to all bondholders,” Fernández assured.
Argentina was promptly pronounced in contempt of court. US Judge Thomas Griesa ruled that Argentina must repay borrowed funds before it can repay other bondholders. The outspokenness of Fernández was undoubtedly a crucial factor in compressing the time available for negotiations over Argentina’s debt.
What little trust remains between developing and emerging nations and the West was fast dissipating. The ruling by the US court was flawed from the outset, for no domestic court, regardless of the country, has jurisdiction over another sovereign state. The US had deliberately sundered, wedged apart Latin America in the past. The contemporary continent is no longer artificially conjoined. It speaks with one voice.
Buenos Aires undertook no preliminary soundings. The position of Fernández was revealed in public, before the world, and arguments over Argentina’s debt began in earnest. What the Western media declines to disclose is that Argentina has already duly, fully and promptly paid 92.4 per cent of its creditors and is simultaneously endeavouring hard to pay the remaining 7.6 per cent. Instead, Western pundits focus on Argentina’s presumed recession and double-digit inflation.
The Argentinian Congress, in a move highlighting a new spirit of national confidence and defiance, has approved legislation to restructure the country’s debt and sidestep a
US court ruling that recently pushed the government into its second default in 13 years. After a 16-hour debate, Argentinian congressmen and women were resoundingly in favour of the baronial stance and posturing projected by Fernández at the UN.
Buenos Aires, once dubbed the “Paris of South America”, is no “Banana Republic”. After Argentina defaulted on about $100 billion of debt in 2001, the country negotiated a settlement with the majority of its bondholders to repay a certain portion of the amount owed. None of these irritants alone would constitute a deal-breaker, but together they have fed into a souring of US-Argentinian relations.
Judge Griesa, “pushing 85 with visible health problems, and very fond of napping around any time of day”, in the words of Jorge Vilches, a former op-ed columnist for The World Street Journal, is no authority on US-Argentinian relations and must not be permitted to call the shots.
It is President Fernández who runs the show. According to Western media reports, Griesa ruled that Argentina could not pay the other creditors until it settled with the holdouts. That triggered a default when Argentina was prevented from paying $539 million in interest due 30 July.
Judge Griesa’s ruling “violates international law” and “has no practical effect other than to provide new elements helpful to the slanderous political and media campaign conducted by vulture funds against Argentina”, Vilches elucidated in the US-based leftist/alternative media virtuoso Counterpunch.
“Griesa holds the sad record of being the first judge to declare a sovereign state in contempt for paying a debt, after failing in his attempt to block the restructuring of the foreign debt of Argentina,” Vilches expounded.
The best that can be said of the Argentinian debt crisis is that it is a figment of the imagination of Western pundits and politicians. Argentina’s next debt deadline is 30 September, when the country must pay some $200 million. The government sped up the approval of the law, seeking to avoid defaulting on those bonds.
In the longer view, it is Western bankers and their bellicose political ilk that should be censured. So what if two hedge funds, NML Capital and Aurelius Capital Management, have demanded full repayment of the $1.5 billion they are owed? Fernández has been lionised for standing up to Washington, but the brouhaha over Argentina’s debt crisis will not change the course of a country that has chosen the path of respect rather than belligerence towards the likes of Iran and Hizbullah.
10-05-2014 12:43 PM
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(10-05-2014 12:43 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  And then, Fernández detonated her bombshell. “Today you pretend making a coalition against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), but in fact you’re their allies,” the Argentinian president stated calmly and collected.

Ohshit
10-06-2014 02:50 AM
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(10-06-2014 02:50 AM)Feisbook Control Wrote:  
(10-05-2014 12:43 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  And then, Fernández detonated her bombshell. “Today you pretend making a coalition against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), but in fact you’re their allies,” the Argentinian president stated calmly and collected.

Ohshit

Yeah, true. Functionally, the USA, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE, Turkey, France, and the UK are on the same side as ISIS against Assad.

There's never been a time in my life where so much foreign policy was mysterious.
10-06-2014 03:22 AM
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(10-02-2014 11:08 AM)Blick Mang Wrote:  Which country doesn't punish those who step out of line against it's national interests? China, Russia? Nothing new here, it's how the game is played. Always has been and always will be.

True, but it's just that the U.S. lies about it more and is more duplicitous. When the U.S. takes another countries natural resources it's always under the guise of 'helping' that country develop.

Why not just be honest?

"Dear Congo,

We would like all of your lithium. In exchange, we will build enough modern facilities (airport, hospital, housing, roads, eateries, ect) to support a population 10% larger than the worker force required to extract the lithium. We will also employ a very large number of native workers for blue collar labor, and a very small number of meaningless management positions from within the indigenous population. One native worker will be allowed to have a token postition of power and prestige, but that person must be utterely subserviant to the interests of XYZ corp. Failure to do so will mean their immediate removal and another patsy native will be allowed to take their place. If the government or any political activists try to intercede within our plans, we will do any number of nasty things that are highly illegal, undemocratic, and violent to quash that movement. Please understand that we are doing this almost entirely in our own self-interest and we only offer a pittance of support for your country in exchange."

But no, we are like some douchebag that gives away $25k engagement rings and then takes them back after a three year engagement and scores of false promises that we never intend to keep.

That's not game. That is just being a shithead douchbag.
10-06-2014 06:34 AM
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