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Land of the Free and Brave? - Vacancier Permanent - 02-02-2012 12:30 PM

One more reason to stay the hell away from this police state, the worst in the history of mankind. This is beyond ridiculous! Speechless.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/brit-pair-stopped-entering-us-over-twitter-jokes-033516586.html

Not helping at all the image of the US nor helping with tourism. I was planning on visiting a few places this year in the US but I think I'm going to spend my money elsewhere where I will be treated with respect and as a human being. Feel bad for these guys who got denied entry for such frivilious reasons. Each day, I thank God I wasn't born there and that I'm not living there.


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - thegmanifesto - 02-02-2012 12:33 PM

How did they link the tweets to the people so quickly?


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - Moma - 02-02-2012 12:35 PM

So Los Angeles (California State) is to blame? Interesting..


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - Moma - 02-02-2012 12:37 PM

(02-02-2012 12:33 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  How did they link the tweets to the people so quickly?

Maybe they have certain triggers in cybernet for certain word combinations such as 'destroy' and 'A******a'. I've heard they have that in libraries so if you search for a book on certain things, they can get your library card revoked in the worst kind of way..


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - thegmanifesto - 02-02-2012 12:42 PM

(02-02-2012 12:37 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 12:33 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  How did they link the tweets to the people so quickly?

Maybe they have certain triggers in cybernet for certain word combinations such as 'destroy' and 'A******a'. I've heard they have that in libraries so if you search for a book on certain things, they can get your library card revoked in the worst kind of way..

Yeah, but how did they know that the passengers were linked to the twitter account?

Also, this doesn't surprise me that this happened in California.


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - gringoed - 02-02-2012 01:08 PM

The worst police state in history? Really? Come on now.

If I were in the authorities shoes, I probably would do the same thing if I knew they had tweeted they would “destroy America" and now were trying to enter my country.

Take this story as a further lesson to be really careful what you post on social networking sites, especially with terror-phobic countries like the US.


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - Moma - 02-02-2012 01:33 PM

Yea in my travels, I notice that all countries are like that, US is hardly an exception. It just seems that the US makes a drama out of anything. Try that in UK or maybe France and nothing would happen.
Then suddenly you wind up missing, killed by rogue 'immigrants'. Tact. That's the only difference.

Yea, to corroborate what gringo said, we should only communicate delicate info the way Joe Pesci did it in Casino, in person, with a cigarette, and a hand over the mouth so that lipreaders with binoculars can't decipher that shyt.
Substitute the world lizard for a few choice nouns, adjectives and verbs and 'they' ll have a field day trying to decode.

Heart


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - SimonRierdon - 02-02-2012 01:47 PM

(02-02-2012 01:08 PM)gringoed Wrote:  The worst police state in history? Really? Come on now.

If I were in the authorities shoes, I probably would do the same thing if I knew they had tweeted they would “destroy America" and now were trying to enter my country.

Take this story as a further lesson to be really careful what you post on social networking sites, especially with terror-phobic countries like the US.

gringoed, actually the U.S. in it's current state IS the worst police state in history.

Did you know that more people are incarcerated in the U.S. than ever were in Soviet gulags? And that nearly one third of individuals under the age of 23 have been arrested? And that with an arrest, you can't get a passport and will be nearly unable to get a good paying job?

Read this article.

Then tell me if this isn't the worst police state in the history of modern civilization.

I know this from experience having traveled most of the world. I have an anarchy tattoo on the back of my right hand, and the only place I've ever been hassled for it is traveling out of and into the U.S.


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - Moma - 02-02-2012 01:51 PM

(02-02-2012 01:47 PM)SimonRierdon Wrote:  gringoed, actually the U.S. in it's current state IS the worst police state in history.

Did you know that more people are incarcerated in the U.S. than ever were in Soviet gulags? And that nearly one third of individuals under the age of 23 have been arrested? And that with an arrest, you can't get a passport and will be nearly unable to get a good paying job?

Read this article.

Then tell me if this isn't the worst police state in the history of modern civilization.

I know this from experience having traveled most of the world. I have an anarchy tattoo on the back of my right hand, and the only place I've ever been hassled for it is traveling out of and into the U.S.

Simon, so why not emigrate elsewhere?


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - MiXX - 02-02-2012 01:53 PM

This is why I hate social networks, they are double-edge swords. On one edge, attention whoring bitches, on the other, big brother monitoring your every word, post, friend request, and physical location.

When will everyone wake up?

Mixx


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - SimonRierdon - 02-02-2012 02:04 PM

(02-02-2012 01:51 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 01:47 PM)SimonRierdon Wrote:  gringoed, actually the U.S. in it's current state IS the worst police state in history.

Did you know that more people are incarcerated in the U.S. than ever were in Soviet gulags? And that nearly one third of individuals under the age of 23 have been arrested? And that with an arrest, you can't get a passport and will be nearly unable to get a good paying job?

Read this article.

Then tell me if this isn't the worst police state in the history of modern civilization.

I know this from experience having traveled most of the world. I have an anarchy tattoo on the back of my right hand, and the only place I've ever been hassled for it is traveling out of and into the U.S.

Simon, so why not emigrate elsewhere?

Because I have two young daughters and I can't take them with me. Plus I'm an older guy who's armed to the teeth who's done everything on my bucket list and I think the collapse is going to be a lot of fun for someone like me.


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - thegmanifesto - 02-02-2012 02:25 PM

(02-02-2012 02:04 PM)SimonRierdon Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 01:51 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 01:47 PM)SimonRierdon Wrote:  gringoed, actually the U.S. in it's current state IS the worst police state in history.

Did you know that more people are incarcerated in the U.S. than ever were in Soviet gulags? And that nearly one third of individuals under the age of 23 have been arrested? And that with an arrest, you can't get a passport and will be nearly unable to get a good paying job?

Read this article.

Then tell me if this isn't the worst police state in the history of modern civilization.

I know this from experience having traveled most of the world. I have an anarchy tattoo on the back of my right hand, and the only place I've ever been hassled for it is traveling out of and into the U.S.

Simon, so why not emigrate elsewhere?

Because I have two young daughters and I can't take them with me. Plus I'm an older guy who's armed to the teeth who's done everything on my bucket list and I think the collapse is going to be a lot of fun for someone like me.

Simon is becoming one of my favorite posters on here.

Quote: I have an anarchy tattoo on the back of my right hand

I like that.

So back to my question earlier, anyone know how they linked the people and the twitter account so quickly?

This doesn't add up.

Or I am missing something.

Thoughts?


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - gringoed - 02-02-2012 02:31 PM

"And that with an arrest, you can't get a passport and will be nearly unable to get a good paying job?"

Not true, I've been arrested. I used my passport 3 days ago.

I understand we have high incarceration rates, but at least we don't mass-murder our citizens by the millions as did Mao, Stalin, Hitler, and many more. Mao is believed to have killed at least 50 million of his own countrymen. Are you saying that we have a worse police state than that?

As for your anarchy tattoo, have you ever traveled to North Korea? What about Iran?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran

I was just in China where they still block facebook and youtube. I would rather have access to information than not, wouldn't you? Let's not forget they also slaughtered their own civilians for voicing their opinions in recent history.

If you're saying that we have a relatively police-state, few would disagree. Saying it's the worst in history???? Puhhh-leez!

So let me ask YOU. How many millions of American civilian citizens has our government slaughtered?


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - gringoed - 02-02-2012 02:37 PM

(02-02-2012 02:04 PM)SimonRierdon Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 01:51 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 01:47 PM)SimonRierdon Wrote:  gringoed, actually the U.S. in it's current state IS the worst police state in history.

Did you know that more people are incarcerated in the U.S. than ever were in Soviet gulags? And that nearly one third of individuals under the age of 23 have been arrested? And that with an arrest, you can't get a passport and will be nearly unable to get a good paying job?

Read this article.

Then tell me if this isn't the worst police state in the history of modern civilization.

I know this from experience having traveled most of the world. I have an anarchy tattoo on the back of my right hand, and the only place I've ever been hassled for it is traveling out of and into the U.S.

Simon, so why not emigrate elsewhere?

Because I have two young daughters and I can't take them with me. Plus I'm an older guy who's armed to the teeth who's done everything on my bucket list and I think the collapse is going to be a lot of fun for someone like me.

You might enjoy the book "Emergency" by Neil Strauss, the same guy who wrote "The Game." You're probably ahead of him for "when the shit hits the fan" but there's some good stories there on multiple passports, survival, and related stuff. If you liked "The Game" you'll probably like "Emergency" if you believe there will be a collapse of our society. I'm not worried about that but it was still a fun read.


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - Moma - 02-02-2012 02:38 PM

Gringo, you make a very valid point.

I've been to countries where they used to literally slaughter any cat who got out of mouth. Freedom of speech? Say something out of line and your whole family would get sunned, in a very graphic way. This is not a recount of something I studied in books. This shyt is factual.
I speak of modern countries. Not ones that I visited back in the 19th century.

So yes, North America could be better (there's room for perfection everywhere) but travel to some places (not resorts either) and you will really see the world for what it is.


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - gringoed - 02-02-2012 02:47 PM

Also, I don't think we're completely in the wrong direction when it comes to making the USA more attractive to visit:

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-9776.html


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - SimonRierdon - 02-02-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:I have an anarchy tattoo on the back of my right hand

I like that.

This is what it looks like G.


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - SimonRierdon - 02-02-2012 03:19 PM

(02-02-2012 02:31 PM)gringoed Wrote:  "And that with an arrest, you can't get a passport and will be nearly unable to get a good paying job?"

Not true, I've been arrested. I used my passport 3 days ago.

I understand we have high incarceration rates, but at least we don't mass-murder our citizens by the millions as did Mao, Stalin, Hitler, and many more. Mao is believed to have killed at least 50 million of his own countrymen. Are you saying that we have a worse police state than that?

As for your anarchy tattoo, have you ever traveled to North Korea? What about Iran?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran

I was just in China where they still block facebook and youtube. I would rather have access to information than not, wouldn't you? Let's not forget they also slaughtered their own civilians for voicing their opinions in recent history.

If you're saying that we have a relatively police-state, few would disagree. Saying it's the worst in history???? Puhhh-leez!

So let me ask YOU. How many millions of American civilian citizens has our government slaughtered?

Alright gringoed, I'll give you the first part of the twentieth century as possibly worse than it is now, but most of the people slaughtered during that time were hardly innocent civilians. They were mostly political and intellectual enemies of the regimes that were in power at the time. My premise is that where we are now is unprecedented since the early to late 1950's. And what's worse, incarceration or execution? I'll take execution every time.


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - SimonRierdon - 02-02-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:Not true, I've been arrested. I used my passport 3 days ago.

The rules are about to change, read this article.


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - YoungGunner - 02-02-2012 03:29 PM

(02-02-2012 02:04 PM)SimonRierdon Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 01:51 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 01:47 PM)SimonRierdon Wrote:  gringoed, actually the U.S. in it's current state IS the worst police state in history.

Did you know that more people are incarcerated in the U.S. than ever were in Soviet gulags? And that nearly one third of individuals under the age of 23 have been arrested? And that with an arrest, you can't get a passport and will be nearly unable to get a good paying job?

Read this article.

Then tell me if this isn't the worst police state in the history of modern civilization.

I know this from experience having traveled most of the world. I have an anarchy tattoo on the back of my right hand, and the only place I've ever been hassled for it is traveling out of and into the U.S.

Simon, so why not emigrate elsewhere?

Because I have two young daughters and I can't take them with me. Plus I'm an older guy who's armed to the teeth who's done everything on my bucket list and I think the collapse is going to be a lot of fun for someone like me.

Would I be right in saying you're a "prepper" ?


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - mofo - 02-02-2012 03:34 PM

Does anybody know if the US or the UK has more street cameras?


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - mofo - 02-02-2012 03:39 PM

(02-02-2012 03:23 PM)SimonRierdon Wrote:  
Quote:Not true, I've been arrested. I used my passport 3 days ago.

The rules are about to change, read this article.
Interesting


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - SimonRierdon - 02-02-2012 03:42 PM

(02-02-2012 03:29 PM)YoungGunner Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 02:04 PM)SimonRierdon Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 01:51 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 01:47 PM)SimonRierdon Wrote:  gringoed, actually the U.S. in it's current state IS the worst police state in history.

Did you know that more people are incarcerated in the U.S. than ever were in Soviet gulags? And that nearly one third of individuals under the age of 23 have been arrested? And that with an arrest, you can't get a passport and will be nearly unable to get a good paying job?

Read this article.

Then tell me if this isn't the worst police state in the history of modern civilization.

I know this from experience having traveled most of the world. I have an anarchy tattoo on the back of my right hand, and the only place I've ever been hassled for it is traveling out of and into the U.S.

Simon, so why not emigrate elsewhere?

Because I have two young daughters and I can't take them with me. Plus I'm an older guy who's armed to the teeth who's done everything on my bucket list and I think the collapse is going to be a lot of fun for someone like me.

Would I be right in saying you're a "prepper" ?

Well, not like those people who stuff foodstuffs for a year in their basements. I'm taking what you might say is a more "proactive" approach to the coming collapse. I anticipate that the coming period of history is going to reward those who can figure out what the opportunities are and can capitalize on them. There's a lot of opportunity out there in chaos that can be exploited.


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - SimonRierdon - 02-02-2012 03:43 PM

(02-02-2012 03:34 PM)mofo Wrote:  Does anybody know if the US or the UK has more street cameras?

UK hands down. But that's changing.


RE: Land of the Free and Brave? - YoungGunner - 02-02-2012 03:48 PM

(02-02-2012 03:42 PM)SimonRierdon Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 03:29 PM)YoungGunner Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 02:04 PM)SimonRierdon Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 01:51 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 01:47 PM)SimonRierdon Wrote:  gringoed, actually the U.S. in it's current state IS the worst police state in history.

Did you know that more people are incarcerated in the U.S. than ever were in Soviet gulags? And that nearly one third of individuals under the age of 23 have been arrested? And that with an arrest, you can't get a passport and will be nearly unable to get a good paying job?

Read this article.

Then tell me if this isn't the worst police state in the history of modern civilization.

I know this from experience having traveled most of the world. I have an anarchy tattoo on the back of my right hand, and the only place I've ever been hassled for it is traveling out of and into the U.S.

Simon, so why not emigrate elsewhere?

Because I have two young daughters and I can't take them with me. Plus I'm an older guy who's armed to the teeth who's done everything on my bucket list and I think the collapse is going to be a lot of fun for someone like me.

Would I be right in saying you're a "prepper" ?

Well, not like those people who stuff foodstuffs for a year in their basements. I'm taking what you might say is a more "proactive" approach to the coming collapse. I anticipate that the coming period of history is going to reward those who can figure out what the opportunities are and can capitalize on them. There's a lot of opportunity out there in chaos that can be exploited.

I gotcha. I hope to be out of the U.S right after college anyway for multiple reasons, with actually being able to make a living among them.